[gentoo-user] upgrading from 2005 S1 to 2008.0?

2009-03-10 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2005 S1 install to 2008.0? I gave it a 
quick try and ran into multiple issues. Before I expend hrs trying to make it 
work, does anyone know if it's an exercise in futility or not? Thx
-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
http://doug.hunley.homeip.net

If I were to stop saving his life, it would simple things up so much.




Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from 2005 S1 to 2008.0?

2009-03-10 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Douglas J Hunley
d...@hunley.homeip.net wrote:
 Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2005 S1 install to 2008.0? I gave it a
 quick try and ran into multiple issues. Before I expend hrs trying to make it
 work, does anyone know if it's an exercise in futility or not? Thx

It may be possible by unpacking one of the stage tarballs from the
newer profile and using that to jump-start the rest of the process...
i've never done it so I am only guessing.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml

The upgrading guide mentions doing a voodoo dance so that may not be
a good sign. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from 2005 S1 to 2008.0?

2009-03-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 16:40:32 Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2005 S1 install to 2008.0? I gave it
 a quick try and ran into multiple issues. Before I expend hrs trying to
 make it work, does anyone know if it's an exercise in futility or not? Thx

You have not given sufficient information for even a half-way decent answer. 
So I will thumb suck:

Is this an install from 2005 that has not been updated since? If so, forget 
it, reinstall.

Is this an install from 2205 that has been updated regularly? If so, what's 
the problem?

Is this some arb install from some arb point in time that is running a 2005 
profile? If so, change the profile and emerge world.

Some other interpretation that has never crossed my bow?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading from 2005 S1 to 2008.0?

2009-03-10 Thread Dale
Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2005 S1 install to 2008.0? I gave it a 
 quick try and ran into multiple issues. Before I expend hrs trying to make it 
 work, does anyone know if it's an exercise in futility or not? Thx
   


If it were me, I would save the world file, /rtc and /home and just
reinstall.  There are several updates that would be pretty extensive and
tedious to say it lightly.  I think in the long run, a reinstall would
be much faster and easier.

Giving a little more thought, maybe you should not even save much of
/etc either.  The make.conf file may be OK but I suspect there are huge
changes to everything else too.

My $0.02 worth.

Dale

:-)  :-) 




[gentoo-user] Re: upgrading from 2005 S1 to 2008.0?

2009-03-10 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 10:51:15 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2005 S1 install to 2008.0? I gave
  it a quick try and ran into multiple issues. Before I expend hrs trying
  to make it work, does anyone know if it's an exercise in futility or not?
  Thx

 You have not given sufficient information for even a half-way decent
 answer. So I will thumb suck:

 Is this an install from 2005 that has not been updated since? If so, forget
 it, reinstall.

 Is this an install from 2205 that has been updated regularly? If so, what's
 the problem?

 Is this some arb install from some arb point in time that is running a 2005
 profile? If so, change the profile and emerge world.

 Some other interpretation that has never crossed my bow?

It's the first. The box was installed with 2005 S1 and never subsequently 
touched and now I've inherited it. Sorry for not specifying that. 
-- 
Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778
http://doug.hunley.homeip.net

Buffy, when I said you could slay vampires and have a social life, I didn't 
mean at the same time.




[gentoo-user] Re: upgrading from 2005 S1 to 2008.0?

2009-03-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-03-10, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2005 S1 install to 2008.0? I gave it a 
 quick try and ran into multiple issues. Before I expend hrs trying to make 
 it 
 work, does anyone know if it's an exercise in futility or not? Thx

 If it were me, I would save the world file, /rtc and /home and
 just reinstall.  There are several updates that would be
 pretty extensive and tedious to say it lightly.  I think in
 the long run, a reinstall would be much faster and easier.

 Giving a little more thought, maybe you should not even save much of
 /etc either.  The make.conf file may be OK but I suspect there are huge
 changes to everything else too.

Save the old /etc somewhere.  You might not be able to use most
of the files as is, but there are a lot of little pieces of
information in them that you'll need.  Cutting/pasting them
into the new install is way easier than figuring everything out
again from scratch.

-- 
Grant Edwards   grante Yow! Edwin Meese made me
  at   wear CORDOVANS!!
   visi.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading from 2005 S1 to 2008.0?

2009-03-10 Thread b.n.
Grant Edwards ha scritto:
 On 2009-03-10, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2005 S1 install to 2008.0? I gave it 
 a 
 quick try and ran into multiple issues. Before I expend hrs trying to make 
 it 
 work, does anyone know if it's an exercise in futility or not? Thx
 If it were me, I would save the world file, /rtc and /home and
 just reinstall.  There are several updates that would be
 pretty extensive and tedious to say it lightly.  I think in
 the long run, a reinstall would be much faster and easier.

 Giving a little more thought, maybe you should not even save much of
 /etc either.  The make.conf file may be OK but I suspect there are huge
 changes to everything else too.
 
 Save the old /etc somewhere.  You might not be able to use most
 of the files as is, but there are a lot of little pieces of
 information in them that you'll need.  Cutting/pasting them
 into the new install is way easier than figuring everything out
 again from scratch.
 

I would also save the kernel config, for the very same reasons (It won't
work by itself, but it will be useful nonetheless).

m.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: upgrading from 2005 S1 to 2008.0?

2009-03-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 10 March 2009 17:34:31 Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 March 2009 10:51:15 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   Is it possible to upgrade an existing 2005 S1 install to 2008.0? I gave
   it a quick try and ran into multiple issues. Before I expend hrs trying
   to make it work, does anyone know if it's an exercise in futility or
   not? Thx
 
  You have not given sufficient information for even a half-way decent
  answer. So I will thumb suck:
 
  Is this an install from 2005 that has not been updated since? If so,
  forget it, reinstall.
 
  Is this an install from 2205 that has been updated regularly? If so,
  what's the problem?
 
  Is this some arb install from some arb point in time that is running a
  2005 profile? If so, change the profile and emerge world.
 
  Some other interpretation that has never crossed my bow?

 It's the first. The box was installed with 2005 S1 and never subsequently
 touched and now I've inherited it. Sorry for not specifying that.

No problem.

I think it was Dale that already told you what to do: reinstall. It's far 
easier, and you really don't want to go through the pain of the modular X 
upgrade, the expat upgrade, KDE monolithic to meta ebuilds and the changes to 
PAM (just to name a few). Besides, I don't think anyone here remembers anymore 
how to get through all that :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] installation / grub boot problem

2009-03-10 Thread Heping He
Hi, I tried to install gentoo on my AMD 64 dual core machine. It has four
500 GB HDs. I followed the instruction on
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml. I
replaced /dev/md4 with raid5 instead of raid0. Here is the list of each HD's
partitiion:

/dev/sda:
partition #,  boot   startend type
1  *118 fd
2   19   361   fd
3362 end  fd

/dev/sdb
partition #,  boot   startend type
1   1361 82
2   362 endfd

/dev/sdc is the same to /dev/sda, and /dev/sdd = /dev/sdb

I created /dev/md1, /dev/md3 and /dev/md4:
mknod /dev/md1 b 9 1
mknod /dev/md3 b 9 3
mknod /dev/md4 b 9 4

and then form raid:
mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1
mdadm --create /dev/md3 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdc2
mdadm --create /dev/md4 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb2
/dev/sdc3 /dev/sdd2

/dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd1 forms the swap space

mount:
mount /dev/md3 /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/md1 /mnt/gentto/boot

/dev/md4 is for lvm2 and /usr, /home,  /opt and other common unix dir are
created there

after chroot and emerge, I issued emerge grub and modified
/boot/grub/grub.conf

default 0
timeout 10

title gentoo
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/md3

and issue grub
grub root (hd0,0)

grub setup (hd0)

grub root (hd2,0)
.
grub setup (hd2)
.
grub quit

When I reboot, the kernel issued a panic msg: it says can't read /dev/md/3
or (hd2,0) is invalid device.

Any idea what went wrong?

Thanks in advance for any suggestion.

--HH


[gentoo-user] fax test

2009-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick


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Re: [gentoo-user] installation / grub boot problem

2009-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:09:13 -0400, Heping He wrote:

 When I reboot, the kernel issued a panic msg: it says can't
 read /dev/md/3 or (hd2,0) is invalid device.

Did you build all the LVM and device mapper stuff into the kernel, not as
modules?


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Re: [gentoo-user] fax test

2009-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:15:23 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:

Whoops, sorry about that, please ignore.

No idea how it ended up here when I distinctly remember pasting in the
correct address.


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[gentoo-user] Introduction to Gentoo

2009-03-10 Thread David
I've been using gentoo for years now, at the beginning, dual bot with Windows 
XP, and now, pure Gentoo only, and I am proud of it (can't live without my 
Gentoo distribution :) )

Googling arround the internet, I found an interesting link with some info 
about Gentoo (in english) that could be usefull to many users, specially new 
ones by introducing them in why Gentoo is different than others, and what can 
one do with gentoo (what are the USE variables, distcc, etc..)

I post here the link and propose it to be linked in main gentoo.org website 
too, since it could help a bit new users, and promote gentoo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfT9zMo0WHw

David.



Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction to Gentoo

2009-03-10 Thread Dale
David wrote:
 I've been using gentoo for years now, at the beginning, dual bot with Windows 
 XP, and now, pure Gentoo only, and I am proud of it (can't live without my 
 Gentoo distribution :) )

 Googling arround the internet, I found an interesting link with some info 
 about Gentoo (in english) that could be usefull to many users, specially new 
 ones by introducing them in why Gentoo is different than others, and what can 
 one do with gentoo (what are the USE variables, distcc, etc..)

 I post here the link and propose it to be linked in main gentoo.org website 
 too, since it could help a bit new users, and promote gentoo.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfT9zMo0WHw

 David.


   


I went to the link and it said the video was no longer available.  Does
it work for anyone else?

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Introduction to Gentoo

2009-03-10 Thread Andrey Falko
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I went to the link and it said the video was no longer available.  Does
 it work for anyone else?

 Dale

 :-)  :-)



Works for me.