Re: [gentoo-user] Re: aliases

2009-03-26 Thread Dale
Thanasis wrote:
> on 03/23/2009 05:18 AM Dale wrote the following:
>   
>> I'm not real familiar with aliases but know what it is.  If you use the
>> alias method, how would you disable it for a one time run? 
>>
>> Dale
>>   
>> 
> You can also use the unalias command, eg:
> $ alias ls='ls -la'
> $ unalias ls
> (then it stays unaliased for the session until you alias it again,
> source .bashrc, etc...).
> HTH :-)
>
>
>   

It doesn't like that command here.  It may be that I have the alias set
up in my profile instead of using the command alias.  Does that matter?

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-26 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:59:02 -0300
Jorge Morais  wrote:

> > It's still a way to check out these new features hands-on :)
>
> It's a kernel.

Exactly.
That's definitely one of the thing you have to know about, especially
if this one's got some unpredictable stuff in it.

> Even if it already released, it has a higher chance of bugs than a 
> more established kernel.

Agreed, but from my experience, it's more like 'features' with kernel -
some stuff just change, and most of this isn't quite obvious from
release info, even with such commit-by-commit teardown like
kernelnewbies.
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_29

> Waiting for the package to become stable on Gentoo is not just about
> ebuild bugs; it is also about waiting for enough users in general to
> test the upstream package, and Gentoo users in particular to test the
> package within Gentoo.

There's a race condition and quite unpredictable dependency :)

> Of course, if you want to actively help, that is a reason to test
> the latest software... but I am afraid that a kernel bug could lead
> to unpredictable behavior, data loss and other problems I can't
> tolerate. Also, I think a kernel has a higher chance of hidden
> bugs (bugs that don't stand in your face).

But that's fine with desktop systems, especially if you have full
net backup as a daily cronjob (which is a great idea, btw).
I tend to use each new kernel for at least a few weeks, before
deploying it anywhere, and no bugreports or security advisory papers
are substitute for that.

But this isn't really a discussion, since I certainly don't speak for
production systems and you probably mean just a general deployment
everywhere, so everyone's right in their own way.
Besides, stability vs innovation is too much a matter of personal
preference to discuss it w/o starting an endless holywar.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Block emerge world package

2009-03-26 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 04:12 +0100, laurent wrote:

> I though it was a layman overlay, but listing them with layman -L does 
> not show them.
> Is there a general way to desable packages or find if they are part of 
> an overlay ?


I'm not sure what you mean by "disable" packages?  Do you mean unmerge
them? Mask them?  Anyway these are general portage questions which are
covered in the handbook.

You can see what repo an ebuild was installed from in 
/var/db/pkg//-/repository





Re: [gentoo-user] layman: could not connect to server

2009-03-26 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:04:22PM +0100, Penguin Lover Nicolai Beuermann 
squawked:
> thanks for your answer:
> Here is what I did:
> 1) emerge -1 neon - revdep-rebuild (everything was consistent): layman -f -a 
> sabayon failed, layman -s vmware failed too
> 2) USE=expat emerge -1 neon; emerge -1 subversion;  
> Just to be shure I did revdep-rebuild again -> system consistent. layman 
> failed again.
> 

please show "emerge -pv subversion" and
"svn --version"

Best, 

W
-- 
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Then he realised there was a contradiction there and merely 
hoped that there wasn't an afterlife." 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Block emerge world package

2009-03-26 Thread laurent

Albert Hopkins a écrit :

On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 03:37 +0100, laurent wrote:
  

Hi,

Emerge world want to emerge dev-lang/neko 1.7.1-r1
I already have 1.8 running.

How can I tell emerge not to install that package?

Laurent

It's a beautifull news to see dev-lang/neko!! :)




Hard for me to say since I don't have a dev-lang/neko in my portage
tree.  Is this part of an overlay?  You did not specify that it was.




  
I though it was a layman overlay, but listing them with layman -L does 
not show them.
Is there a general way to desable packages or find if they are part of 
an overlay ?





Re: [gentoo-user] Block emerge world package

2009-03-26 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 03:37 +0100, laurent wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Emerge world want to emerge dev-lang/neko 1.7.1-r1
> I already have 1.8 running.
> 
> How can I tell emerge not to install that package?
> 
> Laurent
> 
> It's a beautifull news to see dev-lang/neko!! :)
> 

Hard for me to say since I don't have a dev-lang/neko in my portage
tree.  Is this part of an overlay?  You did not specify that it was.




[gentoo-user] Block emerge world package

2009-03-26 Thread laurent

Hi,

Emerge world want to emerge dev-lang/neko 1.7.1-r1
I already have 1.8 running.

How can I tell emerge not to install that package?

Laurent

It's a beautifull news to see dev-lang/neko!! :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Boot via floppy from cdrom

2009-03-26 Thread Tom
> Mentioning the obvious just in case ... have you run a checksum on
> it? Perhaps they should email it again to you?

No, I just sent them my request. If that was the problem, I'm going to
cry, and pull my hair out ;-)

Thanks...hoping...

Tom



Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-26 Thread Jorge Morais
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:36:41 +0500
Mike Kazantsev  wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:13:38 -0300
> Jorge Morais  wrote:
> 
> > If you had upgraded because of a needed feature, I assume you would
> > have read about the release, and thus would know about Tuz.
> > So you upgraded to a ~arch kernel without any need.
> > Why?
> 
> The question is probably not adressed to me, but...
> 
> It's still a way to check out these new features hands-on :)
It's a kernel.
> 
> And while it's ~arch on gentoo, it's actually marked 'stable' by
> developers, and, since gentoo ebuild does pretty much nothing but
> unpacking it, it should be pretty much as stable as any non-~arch
> package.
> 

Even if it already released, it has a higher chance of bugs than a 
more established kernel.

Waiting for the package to become stable on Gentoo is not just about
ebuild bugs; it is also about waiting for enough users in general to
test the upstream package, and Gentoo users in particular to test the
package within Gentoo.

And I don't know about the usual quality of brand new Linux
releases, but in general, I believe upstream developers want to
release early (to get testers and updated contributions), while
a distribution may wait until the software is ready and tested.

Of course, if you want to actively help, that is a reason to test
the latest software... but I am afraid that a kernel bug could lead
to unpredictable behavior, data loss and other problems I can't
tolerate. Also, I think a kernel has a higher chance of hidden
bugs (bugs that don't stand in your face).

I think that if you want to contribute as a tester it is easier
to test a beta version of mplayer or Firefox (backup your bookmarks!),
for example, where bugs are more visible and likely less harmful.

Cheers,
Jorge

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-26 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:13:38 -0300
Jorge Morais  wrote:

> If you had upgraded because of a needed feature, I assume you would
> have read about the release, and thus would know about Tuz.
> So you upgraded to a ~arch kernel without any need.
> Why?

The question is probably not adressed to me, but...

It's still a way to check out these new features hands-on :)

And while it's ~arch on gentoo, it's actually marked 'stable' by
developers, and, since gentoo ebuild does pretty much nothing but
unpacking it, it should be pretty much as stable as any non-~arch
package.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] new symbols in portage

2009-03-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote:

>  [0] /usr/portage
>  [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined
> <...>
> 
> But what does [?=>0] mean which sometimes appears?

It means you are going from an ebuild of indeterminate source to one from
the portage tree.


-- 
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A closed mouth gathers no foot.


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Re: [gentoo-user] new symbols in portage

2009-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 27 March 2009 00:13:07 maxim wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> Since updating portage I notice the following whenever I run emerge:
>
> <...>
> Portage tree and overlays:
>  [0] /usr/portage
>  [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined
> <...>
>
> But what does [?=>0] mean which sometimes appears?

It's an overlay move. Normally you will see something like [1=>0] meaning the 
ebuild was installed from the overlay tagged as [1] at the end and will be 
updated with a more recent ebuild from the overlay tagged [0] at the end.

[0] will always be the portage tree in practice.

[?] means portage doesn't know which overlay the installed ebuild came from - 
usually because you deleted it from layman

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:13:38 -0300, Jorge Morais wrote:

> If you had upgraded because of a needed feature, I assume you would
> have read about the release, and thus would know about Tuz.
> So you upgraded to a ~arch kernel without any need.
> Why?

Because if no one runs the testing packages, they don't get tested.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] new symbols in portage

2009-03-26 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT)
maxim wexler  wrote:

> But what does [?=>0] mean which sometimes appears?

Just the fact that ebuild, used to build given package, no longer
exists.
Could be something you've hacked (or just changed a bit and redigested)
in haste right in portage tree, removed by subsequent rsync, or advanced
ebuild from an overlay you've long removed, that just got bumped in the
main tree.

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[gentoo-user] new symbols in portage

2009-03-26 Thread maxim wexler

Hi group,

Since updating portage I notice the following whenever I run emerge:

<...>
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [?] indicates that the source repository could not be determined
<...>

But what does [?=>0] mean which sometimes appears?

Maxim





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Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-26 Thread Jorge Morais
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:50:46 +0200
Thanasis  wrote:

> Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources?
> usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm
> 
> Why did they substitute the penguin with this ugly disguised mouse?
> 
> 
If you had upgraded because of a needed feature, I assume you would
have read about the release, and thus would know about Tuz.
So you upgraded to a ~arch kernel without any need.
Why?

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot via floppy from cdrom

2009-03-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 March 2009, Tom wrote:

> It seems its a
> bios bug or something, I even contacted the vendor (ASRock) and they
> sent me an updated flash image, which I was sofar unable to install,
> for some strange obscure reason.

Mentioning the obvious just in case ... have you run a checksum on it?  
Perhaps they should email it again to you?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ugly fonts on some seb sites

2009-03-26 Thread Robin Atwood
On Friday 27 Mar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > [...] Put this in /etc/fonts/local.conf:
> > [...]
>
> I forgot to mention that is that file is empty or does not exist, create
> it and put this at the beginning:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And this at the end (after the entries I posted in my previous message):
>
>

Thanks for the excellent info. Rebuilding cairo certainly improves the look 
with Firefox but the /etc/fonts/local.conf seems to have no effect on 
Konqueror.

-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] layman: could not connect to server

2009-03-26 Thread Nicolai Beuermann
Willie Wong wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:49:20PM +0100, Penguin Lover Nicolai Beuermann 
squawked:
> > svn: OPTIONS of 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk': could
> > not connect to server (http://overlays.gentoo.org)
> >
> > But pointing firefox to http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk
> > lists the directory.
> >
> > Same problem arose by syncing the sabayon overlay.
> > Courageously removing this overlay with " layman -d sabayon" now I'm
> > unable to add it again! Same error as mentioned before.
> >
> > Paradoxically syncing works with pro-audio overlay.
>
> from layman -L, proaudio overlay talks to
> svn://svn.tuxfamily.org/svnroot/pr.. whereas the other two talks to
> http://
>
> So my guess is to rebuild neon?
>
> Almost looks like a revdep-rebuild issue to me.
>
> W
thanks for your answer:
Here is what I did:
1) emerge -1 neon - revdep-rebuild (everything was consistent): layman -f -a 
sabayon failed, layman -s vmware failed too
2) USE=expat emerge -1 neon; emerge -1 subversion;  
Just to be shure I did revdep-rebuild again -> system consistent. layman 
failed again.

emerge --info
Portage 2.1.6.10 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, 
glibc-2.9_p20081201-r2, 2.6.23-sabayon-r1-04.03.2009-01 x86_64) 

 
=   
   
System uname: Linux-2.6.23-sabayon-r1-04.03.2009-01-x86_64-Intel-R-_Xeon-R-
_cpu_51...@_2.00ghz-with-glibc2.2.5 
Timestamp of tree: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:45:01 +  
   
ccache version 2.4 [disabled]   
   
app-shells/bash: 4.0_p10-r1 
   
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7-r1, 2.1.7   
   
dev-lang/python: 2.5.4-r2   
   
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6   
   
dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r8 
   
dev-util/cmake:  2.6.3  
   
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.0  
   
sys-apps/openrc: 0.4.3-r2   
   
sys-apps/sandbox:1.6
   
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.63 
   
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2   
   
sys-devel/binutils:  2.19.1-r1  
   
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1 
   
sys-devel/libtool:   2.2.6a 
   
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.28-r1  
   
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"  
   
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
   
CFLAGS="-march=nocona -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -pipe"   
   
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" 
   
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config 
/usr/kde/3.5/share/config/kdm /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config"  

  
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ 
/etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/php/apache2-
php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ 
/etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/splash /etc/terminfo 
/etc/udev/rules.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=nocona -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -pipe" 
   
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: flash && ncaa.com bball

2009-03-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:36 PM, James  wrote:
> I do not see where you found that?

I went to ncaa.com and clicked the "watch games live" link on the main page.

> I get that on Konqueror, Firefox and Seamonkey.

Emerge net-www/netscape-flash version 10.0.22.87 and set the -32bit
USE flag (to disable 32-bit flash plugin). You may need to unmask that
version. Make sure to unmerge nspluginwrapper if you've got it
installed. That should make flash work in firefox and seamonkey and
probably konqueror as well.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:19:13 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:

> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >
> > You mentioned elsewhere in the thread "web server"
> > 
> > If that's the case, I'd be telling the hosting provider that 2004 called 
> > and 
> > they want their minutes back. Then I'd be looking for a different hosting 
> > provider.
> 
> If indeed they're running off 2004 software, I would be interested to 
> know how many times people are defacing (or worse) sites hosted there :P

If the server itself is http-backend (with ssh forwarded, too), located
in dmz, what's the big deal?

You can have latest and fairly secure apache/lighttpd/nginx/whatever
out there, and, provided there are no holes in your scripts, the setup
should be fairly secure.
And that's probably most used line-of-defence on any web, since there's
nothing more important for webserver than scripts - if you have www, you
pretty much have it all.

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[gentoo-user] Re: flash && ncaa.com bball

2009-03-26 Thread James
Paul Hartman  gmail.com> writes:


> Actually, I just went to the site and it says:


I do not see where you found that?

Try this site:

http://www.ncaa.com/brackets/basketball/men/


> So it doesn't appear the games are in Flash... unless you /only/ want
> to see the highlights. The "highlight remixer" worked fine for me
> (64-bit seamonkey + 64-bit flash plugin).


The website tells me
" You need the flash 8 plugin (or higher)
to view this content
click here to download the latest version
of the flash plugin
It's free"

I get that on Konqueror, Firefox and Seamonkey.

step to install whatever I need for any of these
browsers, the gentoo way, would be keen.

running 100% 64bit gentoo on amd64
newly installed kde 4.2.1 (if that matters fi)


thx,
James





[gentoo-user] Re: Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Thursday 26 March 2009 21:30:57 Florian Philipp wrote:


About a year ago a company I worked for was consulted to maintain a
hospital admin system running on SLES of about that era in a VM. We told
them to upgrade or find somebody else. They went off on their merry way
to find somebody else...

I'll ask them as soon as I know more about how Gentoo works on this.


You mentioned elsewhere in the thread "web server"

If that's the case, I'd be telling the hosting provider that 2004 called and 
they want their minutes back. Then I'd be looking for a different hosting 
provider.


If indeed they're running off 2004 software, I would be interested to 
know how many times people are defacing (or worse) sites hosted there :P





Re: [gentoo-user] Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 26 March 2009 21:30:57 Florian Philipp wrote:

> > About a year ago a company I worked for was consulted to maintain a
> > hospital admin system running on SLES of about that era in a VM. We told
> > them to upgrade or find somebody else. They went off on their merry way
> > to find somebody else...
>
> I'll ask them as soon as I know more about how Gentoo works on this.

You mentioned elsewhere in the thread "web server"

If that's the case, I'd be telling the hosting provider that 2004 called and 
they want their minutes back. Then I'd be looking for a different hosting 
provider.
-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] flash && ncaa.com bball

2009-03-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM, James  wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> So the mens college basketball games are streamed over
> the net. On my newly upgraded kde 4.2.1, neither seamonkey
> nor mozilla-firefox nor konqueror can play these
> files. the website (ncaa.com) just tells me to download
> "flash-8" to play highlights of previous games.

Actually, I just went to the site and it says:

Standard Video Player Platform Requirements

* Microsoft Windows XP/Vista
* Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 or above
* Microsoft Windows Media Player 9 or above

High Quality Video Player Platform Requirements

* Microsoft Silverlight 2 (Click here to view system requirements)

So it doesn't appear the games are in Flash... unless you /only/ want
to see the highlights. The "highlight remixer" worked fine for me
(64-bit seamonkey + 64-bit flash plugin).



Re: [gentoo-user] flash && ncaa.com bball

2009-03-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM, James  wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> So the mens college basketball games are streamed over
> the net. On my newly upgraded kde 4.2.1, neither seamonkey
> nor mozilla-firefox nor konqueror can play these
> files. the website (ncaa.com) just tells me to download
> "flash-8" to play highlights of previous games.
>
>
> Is this safe?  Is there a gentoo way to get flash-8 working with
> any of these aforementioned web browsers?
>
>
> It seems like I had "flash" working some time ago, but, I'm
> not sure what happened.
>
>
> It's an amd64 system.

You have to be aware of the 32-bit vs 64-bit versions of your browsers
and the flash plug-in. If you are using the 32-bit flash in a 64-bit
browser, you need nspluginwrapper. If you're using the 64-bit flash in
a 64-bit browser or 32-bit flash in 32-bit browser, you don't. If
you're using the 64-bit flash and a 32-bit browser, you're out of
luck.



[gentoo-user] flash && ncaa.com bball

2009-03-26 Thread James
Hello,


So the mens college basketball games are streamed over
the net. On my newly upgraded kde 4.2.1, neither seamonkey
nor mozilla-firefox nor konqueror can play these
files. the website (ncaa.com) just tells me to download
"flash-8" to play highlights of previous games.


Is this safe?  Is there a gentoo way to get flash-8 working with
any of these aforementioned web browsers?


It seems like I had "flash" working some time ago, but, I'm
not sure what happened.


It's an amd64 system.


Any suggestions are welcome.


James






Re: [gentoo-user] Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Alan McKinnon schrieb:
> On Thursday 26 March 2009 20:41:38 Florian Philipp wrote:
>> Alan McKinnon schrieb:
>>> On Thursday 26 March 2009 19:47:05 Florian Philipp wrote:
 Hi list!

 A quick question:

 If i install Gentoo on a system with a kernel version 2.6.9 (don't ask
 ...),
>>> Wow. That kernel is what 4? 5? years old
>> Yep, I was surprised myself. It is a virtual machine (formerly SuSE).
>> Therefore I have no influence on the kernel. I'm wondering whether I'm
>> even safe when running such an antique system.
> 
> What kind of vm? Considering the vintage, I'd guess an early vmware
> 
> The 2.6.9 machine - is that the host or guest?

It's OpenVZ, therefore guest and host share one kernel.

> 
> About a year ago a company I worked for was consulted to maintain a hospital 
> admin system running on SLES of about that era in a VM. We told them to 
> upgrade or find somebody else. They went off on their merry way to find 
> somebody else...
> 

I'll ask them as soon as I know more about how Gentoo works on this.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ugly fonts on some seb sites

2009-03-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:
> Robin Atwood wrote:
>>
>> Recently freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/) updated its look and now I find
>> the fonts very hard to read. It seems like they are not being rendered with
>> anti-aliasing. Linux Journal (http://www.linuxjournal.com/) seems to have
>> the same problem. It makes no difference whether I use Firefox or Konqueror,
>> the appearance is the same. How can I find out what font is being used and
>> maybe substitute it with CSS?
>
> The solution is to substitute them with another font (I use DejaVu, Sans or
> Serif, according to whether the original has serifs or not). Put this in
> /etc/fonts/local.conf:
(snip)
> Also, it helps to enable the "cleartype" USE flab of cairo (for Firefox,
> Thunderbird, and other Gtk apps; vastly better fonts here with that USE
> flag; it's a nice patch from Arch Linux and fortunately someone added it to
> Portage).

Thanks for the great tips. I don't know if it was the cleartype USE
flag or the local.conf, but after doing both of these my web fonts
look a lot better in Firefox and Seamonkey.



Re: [gentoo-user] color etc-update

2009-03-26 Thread laurent

Mike Kazantsev a écrit :

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:22:37 +0100
laurent  wrote:

  

sed -i 's|diff_command="diff|diff_command="colordiff|' /etc/etc-update.conf

Oops, my bad :)

  

Sweet :)
L



"Never trust one-liner fix"
I bet it'd be written all over the ashes of post-apocalyptic world as
well ;)

  

I took the risk to think I did understand that one-line fixer.
The world still stands. I promess I won't do it again :)
I love etc-update now.




Re: [gentoo-user] Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 26 March 2009 20:41:38 Florian Philipp wrote:
> Alan McKinnon schrieb:
> > On Thursday 26 March 2009 19:47:05 Florian Philipp wrote:
> >> Hi list!
> >>
> >> A quick question:
> >>
> >> If i install Gentoo on a system with a kernel version 2.6.9 (don't ask
> >> ...),
> >
> > Wow. That kernel is what 4? 5? years old
>
> Yep, I was surprised myself. It is a virtual machine (formerly SuSE).
> Therefore I have no influence on the kernel. I'm wondering whether I'm
> even safe when running such an antique system.

What kind of vm? Considering the vintage, I'd guess an early vmware

The 2.6.9 machine - is that the host or guest?

About a year ago a company I worked for was consulted to maintain a hospital 
admin system running on SLES of about that era in a VM. We told them to 
upgrade or find somebody else. They went off on their merry way to find 
somebody else...

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Albert Hopkins schrieb:
> On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 18:47 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
>> Hi list!
>>
>> A quick question:
>>
>> If i install Gentoo on a system with a kernel version 2.6.9 (don't ask
>> ...), are there issues I should be aware of?
>>
> OTOH if pull in a really old revision of the portage tree that has 2.6.9
> and you never upgrade the tree then you should be fine ;-)
> 

I don't think doing no updates whatsoever is a reasonable option for a
web server ;)




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Re: [gentoo-user] Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Alan McKinnon schrieb:
> On Thursday 26 March 2009 19:47:05 Florian Philipp wrote:
>> Hi list!
>>
>> A quick question:
>>
>> If i install Gentoo on a system with a kernel version 2.6.9 (don't ask
>> ...), 
> 
> Wow. That kernel is what 4? 5? years old

Yep, I was surprised myself. It is a virtual machine (formerly SuSE).
Therefore I have no influence on the kernel. I'm wondering whether I'm
even safe when running such an antique system.
> 
>> are there issues I should be aware of?
> 
> Plenty. 
> 
> First off, udev is unlikely to work for a start, so you will either need to 
> remember how we did it way bask in '05, or use a static /dev

Hmm, maybe this is no issue in a v-server. God knows what happens in the
background. (Okay, okay, SOURCE knows what happens, too, but I'm
unwilling to read it ;) )
> 
> I'm sure there are many more, I just can;t think of the details about the 
> other points you raised.
> 

Well, I'll just try. In the worst case I'll ask whether I can pay for a
kernel update or a transfer to another host system.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Ugly fonts on some seb sites

2009-03-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Robin Atwood
 wrote:
> Recently freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/) updated its look and now I find the
> fonts very hard to read. It seems like they are not being rendered with
> anti-aliasing. Linux Journal (http://www.linuxjournal.com/) seems to have the
> same problem. It makes no difference whether I use Firefox or Konqueror, the
> appearance is the same. How can I find out what font is being used and maybe
> substitute it with CSS?

Since you mention Konqueror I will assume you're using KDE. In the KDE
control panel there is a GTK Themes & Fonts section, and it has an
option to use your KDE fonts in GTK programs. Try that if you haven't
already.



Re: [gentoo-user] color etc-update

2009-03-26 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:22:37 +0100
laurent  wrote:

> > sed -i 's|diff_command="diff|diff_command="colordiff|' /etc/etc-update.conf
> >
> > Oops, my bad :)
> >
>
> Sweet :)
> L

"Never trust one-liner fix"
I bet it'd be written all over the ashes of post-apocalyptic world as
well ;)

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:36:41 +0100, laurent wrote:

> I read about a tool to color the etc-update difference, can't find it 
> again, if you know about it ;)

colordiff, it's in portage.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

0 and 1. Now what could be so hard about that?


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Re: [gentoo-user] color etc-update

2009-03-26 Thread laurent

Mike Kazantsev a écrit :

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:07:06 +0500
Mike Kazantsev  wrote:

  

sed -i 's|diff_command="diff -uN %file1 %file2"|diff_command="colordiff|' 
/etc/etc-update.conf



sed -i 's|diff_command="diff|diff_command="colordiff|' /etc/etc-update.conf

Oops, my bad :)

  

Sweet :)
L



Re: [gentoo-user] compiz and mesa

2009-03-26 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 14:18 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 20:31 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > compiz wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb] (even 0.8.2), and 
> > mesa 7.4_rc1 wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb=] (it's for current ~amd64). 
> > 
> > Does [xcb=] means "without the flag"?
> > Tree bug?
> 
> >From the Gentoo Development guide:
> 
> There are also shortcuts for conditional situations:

...

Wow, that pasted fugly.

See http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/dependencies/index.html





Re: [gentoo-user] compiz and mesa

2009-03-26 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 20:31 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> compiz wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb] (even 0.8.2), and 
> mesa 7.4_rc1 wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb=] (it's for current ~amd64). 
> 
> Does [xcb=] means "without the flag"?
> Tree bug?

>From the Gentoo Development guide:

There are also shortcuts for conditional situations:

Compact form

Equivalent expanded form

app-misc/foo[bar?]
bar? ( app-misc/foo[bar] ) !bar?
( app-misc/foo )
app-misc/foo[!bar?]
bar? (app-misc/foo ) !bar?
( app-misc/foo[-bar] )
app-misc/foo[bar=]
bar? ( app-misc/foo[bar] ) !bar?
( app-misc/foo[-bar] )
app-misc/foo[!bar=]
bar? ( app-misc/foo[-bar] ) !bar?
( app-misc/foo[bar] )




Re: [gentoo-user] color etc-update

2009-03-26 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:07:06 +0500
Mike Kazantsev  wrote:

> sed -i 's|diff_command="diff -uN %file1 %file2"|diff_command="colordiff|' 
> /etc/etc-update.conf

sed -i 's|diff_command="diff|diff_command="colordiff|' /etc/etc-update.conf

Oops, my bad :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 18:47 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Hi list!
> 
> A quick question:
> 
> If i install Gentoo on a system with a kernel version 2.6.9 (don't ask
> ...), are there issues I should be aware of?
> 
> Do I have to mask newer glibc-versions, newer kernel headers or some use
> flags? What about the nptl use flag?

The oldest supported (gentoo-sources) kernel in the portage tree is
2.6.16.  So there is the likelihood that anything that touches the
kernel or kernel headers (c library, device drivers, encryption
libraries, filesystems, device-mapper, udev/hotplug scripts) may have
compatibility issues.

OTOH if pull in a really old revision of the portage tree that has 2.6.9
and you never upgrade the tree then you should be fine ;-)

-a





Re: [gentoo-user] color etc-update

2009-03-26 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:53:47 +0100
laurent  wrote:

> What should I emerge to have my etc-update colored for differencies ?

emerge app-misc/colordiff && \
sed -i 's|diff_command="diff -uN %file1 %file2"|diff_command="colordiff|' 
/etc/etc-update.conf

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Re: [gentoo-user] color etc-update

2009-03-26 Thread Justin
laurent wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What should I emerge to have my etc-update colored for differencies ?
> 
> this is dead:
> http://no.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_etc-update
> 
> thanks
> Laurent
> 
edit
/etc/etc-update.conf

and exchange line 32 diff --> colordiff.

and emerge colordiff.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: compiz and mesa

2009-03-26 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Thursday 26 March 2009 20:54:34 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
> > compiz wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb] (even 0.8.2), and
> > mesa 7.4_rc1 wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb=] (it's for current ~amd64).
> >
> > Does [xcb=] means "without the flag"?
> > Tree bug?
>
> I don't know why it shows like this with you, but here it told me that
> that I had to remove the xcb USE flag from mesa.  Instead of that, I
> simply globally enabled xcb in make.conf and disabled it only for cairo
> (the ebuild told me it's not a good idea to use xcb with cairo).
>
> So to make it short, put "xcb" in your USE flags in make.conf, and put:
>
>x11-libs/cairo -xcb
>
> in /etc/portage/package.use.  Then "emerge -auvDN world" and you should
> be set.

Aha, this way works. Thanks for your help, Nikos!



[gentoo-user] Re: compiz and mesa

2009-03-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
compiz wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb] (even 0.8.2), and 
mesa 7.4_rc1 wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb=] (it's for current ~amd64). 


Does [xcb=] means "without the flag"?
Tree bug?


I don't know why it shows like this with you, but here it told me that 
that I had to remove the xcb USE flag from mesa.  Instead of that, I 
simply globally enabled xcb in make.conf and disabled it only for cairo 
(the ebuild told me it's not a good idea to use xcb with cairo).


So to make it short, put "xcb" in your USE flags in make.conf, and put:

  x11-libs/cairo -xcb

in /etc/portage/package.use.  Then "emerge -auvDN world" and you should 
be set.





Re: [gentoo-user] Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 26 March 2009 19:47:05 Florian Philipp wrote:
> Hi list!
>
> A quick question:
>
> If i install Gentoo on a system with a kernel version 2.6.9 (don't ask
> ...), 

Wow. That kernel is what 4? 5? years old

> are there issues I should be aware of?

Plenty. 

First off, udev is unlikely to work for a start, so you will either need to 
remember how we did it way bask in '05, or use a static /dev

I'm sure there are many more, I just can;t think of the details about the 
other points you raised.

-- 
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[gentoo-user] color etc-update

2009-03-26 Thread laurent

Hi,

What should I emerge to have my etc-update colored for differencies ?

this is dead:
http://no.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_etc-update

thanks
Laurent



[gentoo-user] Compatibility with Kernel 2.6.9

2009-03-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list!

A quick question:

If i install Gentoo on a system with a kernel version 2.6.9 (don't ask
...), are there issues I should be aware of?

Do I have to mask newer glibc-versions, newer kernel headers or some use
flags? What about the nptl use flag?

Thanks in advance!
Florian Philipp



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[gentoo-user] compiz and mesa

2009-03-26 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
compiz wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb] (even 0.8.2), and 
mesa 7.4_rc1 wants x11-libs/libX11[xcb=] (it's for current ~amd64). 

Does [xcb=] means "without the flag"?
Tree bug?



[gentoo-user] Re: Ugly fonts on some seb sites

2009-03-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

[...] Put this in /etc/fonts/local.conf:
[...]


I forgot to mention that is that file is empty or does not exist, create 
it and put this at the beginning:


  
  
  
  

And this at the end (after the entries I posted in my previous message):

  




[gentoo-user] Re: Ugly fonts on some seb sites

2009-03-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Robin Atwood wrote:
Recently freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/) updated its look and now I find the 
fonts very hard to read. It seems like they are not being rendered with 
anti-aliasing. Linux Journal (http://www.linuxjournal.com/) seems to have the 
same problem. It makes no difference whether I use Firefox or Konqueror, the 
appearance is the same. How can I find out what font is being used and maybe 
substitute it with CSS?


Hello.

I had the same problem with many sites using "Helvetica", "Times" and 
"Lucida" since they're bitmap fonts and look extremely ugly when the 
size doesn't match (magnifying bitmaps just results in big pixels).


The solution is to substitute them with another font (I use DejaVu, Sans 
or Serif, according to whether the original has serifs or not). Put this 
in /etc/fonts/local.conf:




Helvetica

DejaVu Sans





Lucida

DejaVu Sans





Times

DejaVu Serif




Also, it helps to enable the "cleartype" USE flab of cairo (for Firefox, 
Thunderbird, and other Gtk apps; vastly better fonts here with that USE 
flag; it's a nice patch from Arch Linux and fortunately someone added it 
to Portage).





Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-26 Thread Joshua D Doll

Thanasis wrote:

Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources?
usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm

Why did they substitute the penguin with this ugly disguised mouse?



   

Here's my link on the subject:

http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-logo.html

--Joshua Doll



Re: [gentoo-user] Ugly fonts on some web sites

2009-03-26 Thread Robin Atwood
On Thursday 26 Mar 2009, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Robin Atwood schrieb:
> > Recently freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/) updated its look and now I
> > find the fonts very hard to read. It seems like they are not being
> > rendered with anti-aliasing. Linux Journal (http://www.linuxjournal.com/)
> > seems to have the same problem. It makes no difference whether I use
> > Firefox or Konqueror, the appearance is the same. How can I find out what
> > font is being used and maybe substitute it with CSS?
>
> I have the same problem here. Tried Firefox, Epiphany and Konqueror-3.x.
>
> Their CSS-file contains this line:
> "body {margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
> font-size: 100%; line-height: 21px; min-width: 960px; background:
> #184860; color: #000}"
>
> Doesn't look suspicious to me.

Helvetica is not a truetype font and if it is being used looks ugly.

HTH
-Robin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ugly fonts on some seb sites

2009-03-26 Thread Robin Atwood
On Thursday 26 Mar 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
> 090326 Robin Atwood wrote:
> > Recently  http://freshmeat.net/  updated its look
> > and now the fonts are very hard to read.
> > It seems like they are not being rendered with anti-aliasing.
> >  http://www.linuxjournal.com/  seems to have the same problem.
> > It makes no difference whether I use Firefox or Konqueror,
> > the appearance is the same.
>
> I don't encounter a problem with Konqueror
> -- I didn't check Firefox, but it sb the same --
> set to use New Century Schoolbook for all variable fonts
> & Luxi Mono for all fixed-width fonts: that's a quick fix you might try.

I use DejaVu for all my fonts which usually makes most pages look very elegant 
but I don't think it makes a difference if the font is specified by the site.

-Robin
-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font

2009-03-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Kevin O'Gorman  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Paul Hartman
>  wrote:
>> After a bit of Googling, it seems the accepted solution is to use HTML
>> entities for those symbols and not try to use the raw characters as
>> you are attempting to do.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_and_HTML_character_entity_references
>>
>> Does that contain all of the symbols you need? If there are any
>> others, you should be able to use the unicode versions.
>
> Sigh.  My stuff is not for a mass audience.  I can expect them to
> install a font,
> and I'd really not like to be fooling with entities that much -- composition 
> is
> laborious.  It's really annoying to me to have a font on my own system that
> is inacessable through browser features that were apparently designed to
> allow just that.

I just tested it locally (on a Windows XP machine). Using this HTML syntax:

The quick brown fox

It shows up the way you want when using Internet Explorer, Chrome and
Konqueror, but not in Firefox, Opera, Safari or Seamonkey.

Based on everything I can find on Google, it seems like using a font
in the way you'd like just doesn't work most of the time. From what I
understand, it is because the web long ago moved to Unicode; the
browser is "smart" enough to know that you don't /really/ want to use
the Symbol font (even though you tell it you want to use it). In other
words, the Symbol font knows what those glyphs actually represent, and
the browser is doing the "right" thing by showing the latin text "the
quick brown fox" rather than turning it into Symbols that do not
represent the letters in "the quick brown fox".

> And Unicode is a complete mystery to me.  I see stuff come in and display
> as it should, but as an author it's just something I've never used.  How do
> you compose such stuff on a standard US-English keyboard and system?

What editor do you use? What format is your main document? I'm
assuming HTML is not the primary format. You could also perhaps export
to PDF instead of HTML.

Typically your editor would be Unicode compliant and would either
allow you to insert characters via some kind of character map
application, or use some kind of a keyboard shortcut to type the
unicode number of the glyph you're trying to insert. For example, in
Microsoft Word you can type the 4 digit unicode hex ID and then press
Alt-X and it'll replace it with the actual Unicode character.

To bring it back around to the topic of Gentoo, I think if you are
using a 2007.0 profile or newer then Unicode support is enabled by
default.

As far as using Unicode in HTML, it's not much different from using
the named entities -- you can use numbered unicode entities as well.
For example: & #xAFE2; (no space between the ampersand and the # -- i
put it there in case your e-mail client tried to interpret it).
However, if you are using a unicode encoding then you won't need to
use the entities, you can just have the raw Unicode characters in your
file.

The following website has all(?) of the Unicode glyphs and their HTML
equivalents, as well as showing you how they render in your web
browser: http://theorem.ca/~mvcorks/code/charsets/auto.html

> I'll do what I have to do, but only when I'm convinced it's the best
> alternative.

Good luck :)

Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-26 Thread laurent

Mike Kazantsev a écrit :

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:33:58 +0100
laurent  wrote:

  
But your real problem is a stupid original disk layout. Why don;t you decide 
to fix that instead of getting into cute tricks with symlinks?


  
Because I let my server host install it with their default disk layout. 
When I realise it looks pretty un-servish I had already installed http 
server with client website on it.
The simplest for me was to move folders because I did not find any 'how 
to' that say it would be simple de repartition with keeping your data on.



It should be pretty easy to rsync /home to some other (temporary)
place, 'pvcreate /dev/home-whatever' and lvcreate, say, a
separate vol for portage (with it's ever-growing tree/distfiles) and
for /home, leaving plenty of space to play with, should you need it
either on these partitions or to create others.

Well, LVM is just what I mean ;)

  
LVM...hm nice new word to me. And rsync too, looks good. Ok I will have 
a look when I'm safer.

Got that emerge -v world to finish ;)

I read about a tool to color the etc-update difference, can't find it 
again, if you know about it ;)

thx
Laurent.



Re: [gentoo-user] Ugly fonts on some seb sites

2009-03-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Robin Atwood schrieb:
> Recently freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/) updated its look and now I find 
> the 
> fonts very hard to read. It seems like they are not being rendered with 
> anti-aliasing. Linux Journal (http://www.linuxjournal.com/) seems to have the 
> same problem. It makes no difference whether I use Firefox or Konqueror, the 
> appearance is the same. How can I find out what font is being used and maybe 
> substitute it with CSS?
> 
> TIA

I have the same problem here. Tried Firefox, Epiphany and Konqueror-3.x.

Their CSS-file contains this line:
"body {margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 100%; line-height: 21px; min-width: 960px; background:
#184860; color: #000}"

Doesn't look suspicious to me.




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[gentoo-user] Re: aliases

2009-03-26 Thread Thanasis
on 03/23/2009 05:18 AM Dale wrote the following:
>
> I'm not real familiar with aliases but know what it is.  If you use the
> alias method, how would you disable it for a one time run? 
>
> Dale
>   
You can also use the unalias command, eg:
$ alias ls='ls -la'
$ unalias ls
(then it stays unaliased for the session until you alias it again,
source .bashrc, etc...).
HTH :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Ugly fonts on some seb sites

2009-03-26 Thread Philip Webb
090326 Robin Atwood wrote:
> Recently  http://freshmeat.net/  updated its look
> and now the fonts are very hard to read.
> It seems like they are not being rendered with anti-aliasing.
>  http://www.linuxjournal.com/  seems to have the same problem.
> It makes no difference whether I use Firefox or Konqueror,
> the appearance is the same.

I don't encounter a problem with Konqueror
-- I didn't check Firefox, but it sb the same --
set to use New Century Schoolbook for all variable fonts
& Luxi Mono for all fixed-width fonts: that's a quick fix you might try.

> How can I find out what font is being used and mb substitute it with CSS?

I leave that to others ... (smile)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot via floppy from cdrom

2009-03-26 Thread Tom
> > > Why wast your time with floppies?  Boot from a USB stick that has
> > > plenty of storage on it for kernels and drivers.  
> > 
> > Bios doesn't support it :(
> >   
> 
> So was this machine manufactured 10 years ago or are you *that* good
> in choosing crappy hardware?

I regular y excel in choosing crappy hardware :-;

However, the board does date back to 2004, don't know when it was first
released though.

The bord/bios is actually supposed to boot off sata, just for that to
work I need to set the controller to non-raid mode in the bios.
Doing that upsets my WinXP install, which is also a non-option.

So basically I'm stuck with the 'via floppy' method, which is nice,
reminds me of the 'good old times' ;)

Tom



Re: [gentoo-user] Boot via floppy from cdrom

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 02:32 +0100, Tom wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I had a very un-nice evening, trying to get my system back into a
> usable state, which I eventually managed, but that is another story.
> 
> It made me realise I need a way to be able to use my cdrom drive to
> boot cds.
> Let me explain before you say 'huuhh!?'
> I bought a new dvdwriter a couple of weeks ago, and ever since I am no
> longer able to boot from cd (using that drive, its SATA). It seems its a
> bios bug or something, I even contacted the vendor (ASRock) and they
> sent me an updated flash image, which I was sofar unable to install,
> for some strange obscure reason.(I generally do know how to flash
> bioses, and strangely the 'official' bios images from their site work,
> just not the one support sent me, they are now offering to send me a
> pre-burnt bios chip, but I'm slighly reluctant to go that road...)
> 
> So now I'm basically thinking to myself, ok, I have a floppy drive, so
> what I need is a floppy disk, with a small kernel and my sata-chipset
> driver and some mechanism for then booting of a (bootable)cd lying
> ready in my drive.
> 
> So, any ideas how to do something like this? Maybe something ready
> made, or a convenient script.
> 
> Everything I found regarding this, was using 2.3 kernels and were
> generally out of date  :(
> 
> Tom
> 

Smart Boot Manager (http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/)




[gentoo-user] Ugly fonts on some seb sites

2009-03-26 Thread Robin Atwood
Recently freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/) updated its look and now I find the 
fonts very hard to read. It seems like they are not being rendered with 
anti-aliasing. Linux Journal (http://www.linuxjournal.com/) seems to have the 
same problem. It makes no difference whether I use Firefox or Konqueror, the 
appearance is the same. How can I find out what font is being used and maybe 
substitute it with CSS?

TIA
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot via floppy from cdrom

2009-03-26 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 12:54 +0100, Tom wrote:
> > Why wast your time with floppies?  Boot from a USB stick that has
> > plenty of storage on it for kernels and drivers.
> 
> Bios doesn't support it :(
> 

So was this machine manufactured 10 years ago or are you *that* good in
choosing crappy hardware?





Re: [gentoo-user] Boot via floppy from cdrom

2009-03-26 Thread Tom
> Why wast your time with floppies?  Boot from a USB stick that has
> plenty of storage on it for kernels and drivers.

Bios doesn't support it :(

Tom



Re: [gentoo-user] Boot via floppy from cdrom

2009-03-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:32:49 +0100, Tom wrote:

> So, any ideas how to do something like this? Maybe something ready
> made, or a convenient script.

Smart Boot Manager - http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/


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Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild syntax question

2009-03-26 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/3/26 Helmut Jarausch :
> Hi,
>
> the  sci-libs/mathgl-1.8-r1.ebuild  contains
> DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
>        doc? ( app-text/texi2html virtual/texi2dvi )
>        python? ( dev-lang/swig[python] )
>        octave? ( dev-lang/swig[octave] )"
>
> What does dev-lang/swig[python] mean?
> Since  dev-lang/swig/swig-1.3.39 does not
> use the useflags 'python', etc, anymore,
> emerging sci-libs/mathgl tries to downgrade to
> swig-1.3.36 which gives conflict elsewhere.
>
> Do I really need to mask >swig-1.3.36 or
> is sci-libs/mathgl-1.8-r1.ebuild too old?
>
> Many thanks for a hint.
> (Should I generate a bug report?)
>

IMHO this is one drawdack of EAPI 2 use dependencies. The ebuilds
needs a package with a particular use flag but some versions of said
package do not use this flag and portage gets in trouble. So this is
clearly a bug.

I am not sure but a fix would be something like this:
python? || ( >=dev-lang/swig-1.3.39 

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild syntax question

2009-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 26 March 2009 11:14:38 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the  sci-libs/mathgl-1.8-r1.ebuild  contains
> DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
>   doc? ( app-text/texi2html virtual/texi2dvi )
>   python? ( dev-lang/swig[python] )
>   octave? ( dev-lang/swig[octave] )"
>
> What does dev-lang/swig[python] mean?
> Since  dev-lang/swig/swig-1.3.39 does not
> use the useflags 'python', etc, anymore,
> emerging sci-libs/mathgl tries to downgrade to
> swig-1.3.36 which gives conflict elsewhere.
>
> Do I really need to mask >swig-1.3.36 or
> is sci-libs/mathgl-1.8-r1.ebuild too old?
>
> Many thanks for a hint.
> (Should I generate a bug report?)

Yes, this is a bug and should be reported.

if you need it installed right now, copy the ebuild to your overlay, edit out 
the wrong USE flag specifiers in DEPEND, digest the ebuild and install. Or you 
could walk for the devs to fix it and resync

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[gentoo-user] ebuild syntax question

2009-03-26 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

the  sci-libs/mathgl-1.8-r1.ebuild  contains 
DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
doc? ( app-text/texi2html virtual/texi2dvi )
python? ( dev-lang/swig[python] )
octave? ( dev-lang/swig[octave] )"

What does dev-lang/swig[python] mean?
Since  dev-lang/swig/swig-1.3.39 does not
use the useflags 'python', etc, anymore,
emerging sci-libs/mathgl tries to downgrade to
swig-1.3.36 which gives conflict elsewhere.

Do I really need to mask >swig-1.3.36 or
is sci-libs/mathgl-1.8-r1.ebuild too old?

Many thanks for a hint.
(Should I generate a bug report?)

Helmut.

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Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] layman: could not connect to server

2009-03-26 Thread Willie Wong
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:49:20PM +0100, Penguin Lover Nicolai Beuermann 
squawked:
> svn: OPTIONS of 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk': could not 
> connect to server (http://overlays.gentoo.org)

> But pointing firefox to http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk 
> lists 
> the directory.
> 
> Same problem arose by syncing the sabayon overlay.
> Courageously removing this overlay with " layman -d sabayon" now I'm unable 
> to 
> add it again! Same error as mentioned before.
> 
> Paradoxically syncing works with pro-audio overlay.
> 

from layman -L, proaudio overlay talks to
svn://svn.tuxfamily.org/svnroot/pr.. whereas the other two talks to
http://

So my guess is to rebuild neon?

Almost looks like a revdep-rebuild issue to me. 

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