[gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Chef
Hello !

I am realy a beginner at Linux, and i am trying to get Gentoo work with my
Epia Via C3 Nemiah.

I have followed the Handbook (I hope), and have looked at some Epia HOWTO's
on how to configure the kernel. (manual config)

I configured the needed devices as built in, and nothing as a module.

I have a primary ide-disk on the first IDE-channel, /dev/hda when I boot the
minimal installation cd.

Use tha handbook's partition's. And use lilo, as in the examples.

But when I reboot i get:
VFS: Cannot open root device 303 or unknown-block (3,3)
Please append a correct boot option; here are the available:
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
unknown-block(3,3)

Please help me, as I don't know what to try next.
Does anyone have a .config-file that works with the Epia card ?

/ Thomas


Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Air and TweetDeck

2009-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 16 April 2009 03:00:59 Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 Has anyone had luck installing Adobe Air and TweetDeck on Gentoo?  I
 followed
 http://www.flashinthepan.ca/computer-tips/linux-computer-tips/adobe-air-on-
gentoo-linux to get the SDK installed and attempted to run TweetDeck 0.25. 
 It starts but I get a lot of errors.  Has anyone had luck getting this
 working?

never heard of the product, but:

 # /opt/AIR-SDK/bin/adl
 /opt/AIR-apps/TweetDeck/META-INF/AIR/application.xml
 /opt/AIR-apps/TweetDeck Gtk-Message: Failed to load module gnomebreakpad:
 libgnomebreakpad.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
 directory
 Gtk-Message: Failed to load module gnomebreakpad: libgnomebreakpad.so:
 cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 Gtk-Message: Failed to load module canberra-gtk-module:
 libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
 or directory
 I/O warning : failed to load external entity
 /etc/opt/Adobe/certificates/crypt//config.xml
 Unable to parse Document: /etc/opt/Adobe/certificates/crypt//config.xml.
 libgnome-keyring.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or

It's obviously complaining about missing libraries. Do these files exist 
anywhere on your machine?

You may have to add entries to /etc/env.d and run env-update.
Looks like a classic case of Adobe *nix-cluelessness

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} HD makes weird noise, smartmontools says OK

2009-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 16 April 2009 01:30:56 Paul Hartman wrote:
 The fan on top of my case randomly starts vibrating and makes the most
 awful buzzing noise. If I touch the case in a certain spot it goes
 away (until I remove my finger). :) I usually just give it a couple
 whacks and it stops... but that's probably not a good course to take
 with a hard drive. :)

That's dirt in the bearings causing tiny wear patterns that just happen to 
vibrate at a resonant frequency to buzz. When it gets bad enough they wobble 
on the drive shaft and shake. Same principle as squeeking disc brakes.

Solution is a new fan. Cleaning with aerosol lubricant products temporarily 
helps.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] CMake and empty directories

2009-04-16 Thread Patrick Holthaus
Hey Arttu!

 Just a wild guess from a perl-fan: would it work if you escaped that
 dollar sign with a backslash? It might move the expansion around a
 bit, maybe even to the right place if you're lucky.

Tried that, unfortunately it did not have the desired effect.

Thanks for your suggestion.
Patrick


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[gentoo-user] SLiM fails to load Fluxbox

2009-04-16 Thread Liviu Andronic
Dear all,
I'm using x11-misc/slim as a login manager, and I have troubles with
loading any DE other than Xfce. I've followed the wiki entry [1], but
I must still be doing something wrong: it fails to load Fluxbox
whether I select Fluxbox or Xfce with F1.
It's actually quite funny: selecting Fluxbox I get Xfce loaded on top
of Fluxbox; in this case, when I log out of Xfce I fall back onto
Fluxbox. I suspect that an xfce entry is left in some init script,
but i cannot figure out where it would be.
Thanks,
Liviu

[1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/SLiM


[I] x11-misc/slim
 Installed versions:  1.3.1-r5(16:01:49 08/04/09)(branding pam screenshot)
[I] x11-wm/fluxbox
 Installed versions:  1.0.0-r2(15:08:30 12/10/08)(gnome imlib nls
slit toolbar truetype -kde -vim-syntax -xinerama)

li...@localhost ~ $ rc-status default | grep -i xdm
 xdm[ started  ]
li...@localhost ~ $ cat /etc/conf.d/xdm | grep -i slim
DISPLAYMANAGER=slim
li...@localhost ~ $ cat .xinitrc
#SLiM session call
DEFAULT_SESSION=dbus-launch startxfce4

case $1 in
fluxbox)
exec startfluxbox
;;
*)
exec $DEFAULT_SESSION
;;
esac

# load local modmap
test -r $HOME/.Xmodmap  xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap

li...@localhost ~ $ cat /etc/slim.conf | grep -i login_cmd
login_cmd   exec /bin/bash -login ~/.xinitrc %session
li...@localhost ~ $ cat /etc/slim.conf | grep -i sessions
sessionsxfce,fluxbox
li...@localhost ~ $ cat /etc/slim.conf | grep -i sessionst
#sessionstart_cmd   /usr/bin/sessreg -a -l :0.0 %user
#sessionstop_cmd /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l :0.0 %user



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:56:03 -0500, Dale wrote:

 have been using lsusb and udev monitor to check for what the kernel
 sees.  So far, it has seen nothing at all.

They only show you what udev sees, do any of your USB devices show up in
dmesg? If not, either your kernel or your hardware is broken, and
kernels don't often break without recompilation.

If dmesg shows it, you have a software problem, but it can't be anything
to do with X or your USB ports would work if you booted in text mode.
Use genlop with the --date argument to see what you emerged since your
USB last worked, then start with the obvious suspects.
  

-- 
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Resistance is futile, Persistance is MSDOS


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} HD makes weird noise, smartmontools says OK

2009-04-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:18:23 -0700, Grant wrote:

 Is there any other type of test I can
 do to see if the thing is healthy?

Save some really important data to it that isn't backed up anywhere else.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A friend of mine sent me a postcard with a satellite photo of the
entire planet on it, and on the back he wrote, Wish you were here.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:03:06 +0200, Thomas Chef wrote:

 I configured the needed devices as built in, and nothing as a module.

Which devices?

 I have a primary ide-disk on the first IDE-channel, /dev/hda when I
 boot the minimal installation cd.

Is this an old CD? Modern kernels would see that device as /dev/sda

 VFS: Cannot open root device 303 or unknown-block (3,3)
 Please append a correct boot option; here are the available:
 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
 unknown-block(3,3)

The kernel is unable to find your root device. Try with the sda notation,
if that fails post your kernel config.

 Does anyone have a .config-file that works with the Epia card ?

Yes, but I netboot my Epia box so it may not be much use to you.


-- 
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Q-Tip: When an omnipotent alien gives you advice.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Chef
I just rembered that lilo verifies that the root-device that I use in
lilo-conf actually exists ?

So when I boot from my minimal-cd the disk is /dev/hda so if I write
/dev/sda in lilo.conf I will get an error when running lilo ?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:58:49 +0200, Thomas Chef wrote:

  Is it lilo that tells the kernel at boot what device to mount as root ?

 Yes, although you'll find that most people prefer GRUB to Lilo nowadays.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 Work is the curse of the partying class!



[gentoo-user] IDE is called hda

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Chef
From the handbook:
To begin, we'll introduce block devices. The most famous block device is
probably the one that represents the first drive in a Linux system, namely
/dev/sda. SCSI and Serial ATA drives are both labeled /dev/sd*; even IDE
drives are labeled /dev/sd* with the new libata framework in the kernel. If
you're using the old device framework, then your first IDE drive is /dev/hda
.

But when I boot on Via Epia with my minimal installation CD 2008 I get my
IDE-disk as /dev/hda

Is the kernel on the minimal CD old ?


Odp: [gentoo-user] IDE is called hda

2009-04-16 Thread Rafał
I guess he just answered. The facts speak for itself.

Dnia 16-04-2009 o godz. 11:28 Thomas Chef napisał(a): 

From the handbook:
To begin, we'll introduce block devices. The most famous block device is probably the one that represents the first drive in a Linux system, namely /dev/sda. SCSI and Serial ATA drives are both labeled /dev/sd*; even IDE drives are labeled /dev/sd* with the new libata framework in the kernel. If you're using the old device framework, then your first IDE drive is 
/dev/hda.

But when I boot onVia Epia with my minimal installation CD 2008 I get my IDE-disk as /dev/hda

Is the kernel on the minimal CD old ?

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From the handbook:
To begin, we'll introduce block devices. The most famous block device is
probably the one that represents the first drive in a Linux system, namely
/dev/sda. SCSI and Serial ATA drives are both labeled /dev/sd*; even IDE
drives are labeled /dev/sd* with the new libata framework in the kernel. If
you're using the old device framework, then your first IDE drive is /dev/hda
.

But when I boot on Via Epia with my minimal installation CD 2008 I get my
IDE-disk as /dev/hda

Is the kernel on the minimal CD old ?


Re: [gentoo-user] IDE is called hda

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Harrison

Thomas Chef wrote:

Aha I understand.
 
But what if my cd installation names my disk hda,
but when I download the gentoo kernel source and build it it will use 
sda. So in my lilo.conf I must use hda, and when the new kernel boots it 
looks for hda (because of my lilo.conf), but in that case it should be 
sda instead ?


I guess when you boot the new kernel, it will error looking for the root 
block device, and ask you what it should do.


You can then tell it that it should be looking for sda, not hda. Then 
once the system is booted, you can update the bootloader config.


That should let you migrate and you shouldn't have to do it again unless 
you go back to the old hda names.


HTH

Matt



Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:58:49 +0200, Thomas Chef wrote:

 Is it lilo that tells the kernel at boot what device to mount as root ?

Yes, although you'll find that most people prefer GRUB to Lilo nowadays.


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Re: [gentoo-user] IDE is called hda

2009-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 16 April 2009 11:28:54 Thomas Chef wrote:
 From the handbook:
 To begin, we'll introduce block devices. The most famous block device is
 probably the one that represents the first drive in a Linux system, namely
 /dev/sda. SCSI and Serial ATA drives are both labeled /dev/sd*; even IDE
 drives are labeled /dev/sd* with the new libata framework in the kernel. If
 you're using the old device framework, then your first IDE drive is
 /dev/hda .

 But when I boot on Via Epia with my minimal installation CD 2008 I get my
 IDE-disk as /dev/hda

 Is the kernel on the minimal CD old ?

Not really. It's whatever was reasonably current at the time the CD image was 
built.

It's not the age of the kernel that matters here. it's which drivers are in 
use. These things are in a constant state of flux and right now the Linux 
kernel still has drivers for the old and the new way of doing things with 
disks. 

Rationale: a driver writer decided some time ago that it would be better to 
consolidate things in the kernel and use the same code-base for all types of 
disk. This makes things easier overall as you don't have to eternally figure 
out if you have IDE/SCSI/PATA/SCSI/something_else drives - the thing is always 
going to be /dev/sd**

But you can still use the old drivers and framework if you choose. Apparently, 
whoever mastered that CD did choose. Point being, if /dev/sda doesn't work for 
you and /dev/hda does, then you should be using /dev/hda. From your point of 
view, it's just a name for something

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Chef
I selected all devices from the guideline in the EPIA Howto:
http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/VIA_Epia_M_II

I downloaded the minimal CD:
http://bouncer.gentoo.org/fetch/gentoo-2008.0-minimal/x86/

For the kernel source I followed the online Handbook (with links)

I will try with sda notation in my lilo config.
If this doesnt work I will send my .config and lilo.conf-files.

Is it lilo that tells the kernel at boot what device to mount as root ?

/ Thomas



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

 On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:03:06 +0200, Thomas Chef wrote:

  I configured the needed devices as built in, and nothing as a module.

 Which devices?

  I have a primary ide-disk on the first IDE-channel, /dev/hda when I
  boot the minimal installation cd.

 Is this an old CD? Modern kernels would see that device as /dev/sda

  VFS: Cannot open root device 303 or unknown-block (3,3)
  Please append a correct boot option; here are the available:
  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
  unknown-block(3,3)

 The kernel is unable to find your root device. Try with the sda notation,
 if that fails post your kernel config.

  Does anyone have a .config-file that works with the Epia card ?

 Yes, but I netboot my Epia box so it may not be much use to you.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 Q-Tip: When an omnipotent alien gives you advice.



Re: [gentoo-user] IDE is called hda

2009-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi,

{Around here we don't top-post. We interleave replies in between the relevant 
bits of the quoted text. Pleases tick with the established community 
conventions}

On Thursday 16 April 2009 12:07:08 Thomas Chef wrote:
 Aha I understand.

 But what if my cd installation names my disk hda,
 but when I download the gentoo kernel source and build it it will use sda.
 So in my lilo.conf I must use hda, and when the new kernel boots it looks
 for hda (because of my lilo.conf), but in that case it should be sda
 instead ?

It's more complicated than that, much more complicated.

lilo is not Linux, it runs before Linux runs. So the boot loader itself (when 
booting) has absolutely no idea about /dev/sda or /dev/hda. It doesn't even 
know about /dev, and doesn't need to know such things.

However, before lilo (the boot loader) can work at all, it's code must be 
installed to the MBR of the disk, and there is a Linux app that does that. 
This app needs to know which disk to install the boot loader onto, but it's a 
Linux app so must follow Linux conventions when using disks. If your current 
kernel calls it /dev/hda, then the lilo installer must do the same otherwise 
it cannot find the disk (it must use the running kernel to do that, it cannot 
do it itself. The fact that it's a bootloader *installer* doesn't change 
anything).

When booting, the BIOS will access the first sector of the boot device (as 
defined in the BIOS) and load what it finds there. In your case this will be 
lilo. Lilo will read data directly off the disk and stuff them into memory. By 
a process of magic and a little voodoo, this will just happen to be an exact 
copy of a working kernel. The kernel will load, initialise itself, create 
/dev, find disks and decide what to call them - hda or sda depending on how 
you configured it when you built that kernel. This is the first point where 
hda or sda even exists at all so before then these are meaningless concepts.

Now all of this makes complete sense when you pick it apart. The problem (and 
the point of confusion for most folks), is how the hell did lilo get onto the 
disk The correct answer is You ran Linux and put it there yourself of 
course

The trick is to realise that you ran Linux off a CD which let you see the 
disks so that you could put a boot loader on them, then reboot and start all 
over.

It's a chicken and egg thing, and I did tell you up front it was complicated.
Next week we will cover the wonderful topic of GRUB.

Summary: When you finally get the machine to boot, the disks will be called 
whatever you told the kernel to call them.


 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Alan McKinnon 
alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:
   On Thursday 16 April 2009 11:28:54 Thomas Chef wrote:
   From the handbook:
   To begin, we'll introduce block devices. The most famous block device
   is probably the one that represents the first drive in a Linux system,
 
  namely
 
   /dev/sda. SCSI and Serial ATA drives are both labeled /dev/sd*; even
   IDE drives are labeled /dev/sd* with the new libata framework in the
   kernel.
 
  If
 
   you're using the old device framework, then your first IDE drive is
   /dev/hda .
  
   But when I boot on Via Epia with my minimal installation CD 2008 I get
   my IDE-disk as /dev/hda
  
   Is the kernel on the minimal CD old ?
 
  Not really. It's whatever was reasonably current at the time the CD image
  was
  built.
 
  It's not the age of the kernel that matters here. it's which drivers are
  in use. These things are in a constant state of flux and right now the
  Linux kernel still has drivers for the old and the new way of doing
  things with disks.
 
  Rationale: a driver writer decided some time ago that it would be better
  to consolidate things in the kernel and use the same code-base for all
  types of
  disk. This makes things easier overall as you don't have to eternally
  figure
  out if you have IDE/SCSI/PATA/SCSI/something_else drives - the thing is
  always
  going to be /dev/sd**
 
  But you can still use the old drivers and framework if you choose.
  Apparently,
  whoever mastered that CD did choose. Point being, if /dev/sda doesn't
  work for
  you and /dev/hda does, then you should be using /dev/hda. From your point
  of
  view, it's just a name for something
 
  --
  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] IDE is called hda

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Chef
Aha I understand.

But what if my cd installation names my disk hda,
but when I download the gentoo kernel source and build it it will use sda.
So in my lilo.conf I must use hda, and when the new kernel boots it looks
for hda (because of my lilo.conf), but in that case it should be sda instead
?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:

  On Thursday 16 April 2009 11:28:54 Thomas Chef wrote:
  From the handbook:
  To begin, we'll introduce block devices. The most famous block device is
  probably the one that represents the first drive in a Linux system,
 namely
  /dev/sda. SCSI and Serial ATA drives are both labeled /dev/sd*; even IDE
  drives are labeled /dev/sd* with the new libata framework in the kernel.
 If
  you're using the old device framework, then your first IDE drive is
  /dev/hda .
 
  But when I boot on Via Epia with my minimal installation CD 2008 I get my
  IDE-disk as /dev/hda
 
  Is the kernel on the minimal CD old ?

 Not really. It's whatever was reasonably current at the time the CD image
 was
 built.

 It's not the age of the kernel that matters here. it's which drivers are in
 use. These things are in a constant state of flux and right now the Linux
 kernel still has drivers for the old and the new way of doing things with
 disks.

 Rationale: a driver writer decided some time ago that it would be better to
 consolidate things in the kernel and use the same code-base for all types
 of
 disk. This makes things easier overall as you don't have to eternally
 figure
 out if you have IDE/SCSI/PATA/SCSI/something_else drives - the thing is
 always
 going to be /dev/sd**

 But you can still use the old drivers and framework if you choose.
 Apparently,
 whoever mastered that CD did choose. Point being, if /dev/sda doesn't work
 for
 you and /dev/hda does, then you should be using /dev/hda. From your point
 of
 view, it's just a name for something

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com




[gentoo-user] Dell laptop install fail

2009-04-16 Thread Adam Carter
Much like http://bugs.gentoo.org/26150 the ia64 boot cd is not recognised and 
the bios falls through to boot the hard disk. Knoppix boots fine, but if i were 
to try to install from 32 bit knoppix it will fail as soon as I chroot as i 
would then be attempting to run 64 bit binaries from the stage3 tarball using 
the 32 bit knoppix kernel. Do i understand that correctly? And if so, what are 
my options for installing 64 bit gentoo?

tnx


Re: [gentoo-user] Dell laptop install fail

2009-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 16 April 2009 13:34:02 Adam Carter wrote:
 Much like http://bugs.gentoo.org/26150 the ia64 boot cd is not recognised
 and the bios falls through to boot the hard disk. Knoppix boots fine, but
 if i were to try to install from 32 bit knoppix it will fail as soon as I
 chroot as i would then be attempting to run 64 bit binaries from the stage3
 tarball using the 32 bit knoppix kernel. Do i understand that correctly?
 And if so, what are my options for installing 64 bit gentoo?

 tnx

First, no HTML mail here. The majority of users don't like it.

Second, you can't use ia64 on a Dell laptop - I sincerely doubt you have 
Itanium chips in it. You want amd64.

You other question is correct, you can't run 64 bit stuff from a 32 bit 
kernel.
-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Chef
 Thomas, I also have an EPIA (disk booted) so I can dig that up if there's
no progress

I'm pretty shure that I have selected all device drivers as specified in:
http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/VIA_Epia_M_II
but I will tripple check this tonight.


Re: [gentoo-user] Dell laptop install fail

2009-04-16 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:34:02 +1000
Adam Carter adam.car...@optus.com.au wrote:

 Much like http://bugs.gentoo.org/26150 the ia64 boot cd is not recognised and 
 the bios falls through to boot the hard disk. Knoppix boots fine, but if i 
 were to try to install from 32 bit knoppix it will fail as soon as I chroot 
 as i would then be attempting to run 64 bit binaries from the stage3 tarball 
 using the 32 bit knoppix kernel. Do i understand that correctly? And if so, 
 what are my options for installing 64 bit gentoo?
 
 tnx

ia64 is an arch for Intel Itanium server processors, a laptop should
have amd64-compatible processor, so just try this one.

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[gentoo-user] Pausing kernel startup ?

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Chef
Is it somehow possible to pause the kernel's startup text output ?. The text
is so fast so there is no way of reading it.


RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-16 Thread Adam Carter
  VFS: Cannot open root device 303 or unknown-block (3,3)
  Please append a correct boot option; here are the available:
  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
  unknown-block(3,3)

 The kernel is unable to find your root device. Try with the
 sda notation, if that fails post your kernel config.

Neil, could this alternatively be due to the filesystem driver being absent 
from the kernel? Ie not built at all or built as a module, so it wont be 
available early enough in the boot process?

Thomas, I also have an EPIA (disk booted) so I can dig that up if there's no 
progress.



Re: [gentoo-user] Pausing kernel startup ?

2009-04-16 Thread Justin
Thomas Chef schrieb:
 Is it somehow possible to pause the kernel's startup text output ?. The
 text is so fast so there is no way of reading it.

but it is logged, type dmesg.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Pausing kernel startup ?

2009-04-16 Thread Philip Webb
090416 Thomas Chef wrote:
 Is it somehow possible to pause the kernel's startup text output ?
 The text is so fast so there is no way of reading it.

'Shift-PageUp'  'Shift-PageDown' allow you to scroll thro' the text.
You can increase the size of the buffer among the kernel config choices.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Pausing kernel startup ?

2009-04-16 Thread Justin
Thomas Chef schrieb:
 Is it somehow possible to pause the kernel's startup text output ?. The
 text is so fast so there is no way of reading it.
And of course
app-admin/showconsole



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Re: [gentoo-user] Pausing kernel startup ?

2009-04-16 Thread Mikhail I. Izmestev
Thomas Chef wrote:
 Is it somehow possible to pause the kernel's startup text output ?.
 The text is so fast so there is no way of reading it. 
if you have Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
unknown-block(3,3) you can try rootdelay=120 kernel parameter, and use
shift+pageup|pagedown.



Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:45:02 +1000, Adam Carter wrote:

   VFS: Cannot open root device 303 or unknown-block (3,3)
   Please append a correct boot option; here are the available:
   Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
   unknown-block(3,3)  
 
  The kernel is unable to find your root device. Try with the
  sda notation, if that fails post your kernel config.  
 
 Neil, could this alternatively be due to the filesystem driver being
 absent from the kernel? Ie not built at all or built as a module, so it
 wont be available early enough in the boot process?

The error says the kernel can't open the root device. It's a slightly
different message when the filesystem can't be read, although I haven't
seen that one in a while.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Pausing kernel startup ?

2009-04-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 16 April 2009 13:16:07 Thomas Chef wrote:
 Is it somehow possible to pause the kernel's startup text output ?. The
 text is so fast so there is no way of reading it.

Try ctrl-s to stop the scrolling, ctrl-q to restart it. They will only work 
after a certain point has been passed, though. Maybe when init is running?

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 18:19 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 SNIP
  [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
  [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
  mythfrontend[31548]: segfault at 6f732e4c ip 6f732e4c sp bfe0b09c error
  4
  [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
  [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
  mythfrontend[32128]: segfault at 6f732e4c ip 6f732e4c sp bffb8a4c error
  4
  [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
  [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
  mythfrontend[32527]: segfault at 6f732e4c ip 6f732e4c sp bf98041c error
  4
 SNIP
 
  Here's what I could gather from Xorg.0.log:
 
  camille log # grep EE Xorg.0.log
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
  (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
  (EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0)
  (EE) Failed to load module freetype (module does not exist, 0)
  (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so failed
  (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
  or directory)
  (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
  camille log # grep WW Xorg.0.log
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
  (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/CID/ does not exist.
  (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/OTF does not exist.
  (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or
  directory)
  (WW) Warning, couldn't open module type1
  (WW) Warning, couldn't open module freetype
  (WW) intel(0): libpciaccess reported 0 rom size, guessing 64kB
  (WW) intel(0): ESR is 0x0001, instruction error
  (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state.
 
 SNIP
 
 This is all suggesting to me a fairly serious setup problem, but not
 necessarily a problem with Myth.
 
 You are correct - there is no mythfrontend log file. That would be on
 your server. My mistake. You still might want to look through the tail
 of that file but I doubt anything about this will be there.
 
 As I said earlier, you should simply remove the freetype line from the
 fonts section of your xorg.conf file. It's not an issue though.
 PRobably the same for the type1 font, assuming it's a font. Xorg isn't
 finding those fonts which jsut means it cannot use them. That's not
 going to cause a crash in Myth though.
 
 I'm not understanding why your system isn't finding the right video
 driver. It appears hal wants you to run the i915 driver. Is the i915
 driver in memory? (lsmod|grep i915)
 
 Is it on your system? On the 32-bit machine they are in /usr/lib/dri.
 Your Xorg.0.log file says they aren't there. Why not?
 
 dragonfly ~ # ls -la /usr/lib/dri/
 total 8824
 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root4096 2009-04-12 08:37 .
 drwxr-xr-x 125 root root   77824 2009-04-14 17:22 ..
 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 2150796 2009-04-12 08:37 i810_dri.so
 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 2372108 2009-04-12 08:37 i915_dri.so
 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 2422028 2009-04-12 08:37 i965_dri.so
 -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 1978328 2009-04-12 08:37 swrast_dri.so
 dragonfly ~ #
 
 If they really aren't there then you need to build them. They are
 provided byxf86-video-intel.  I don't have them on this AMD64 machine
 but note that if I wanted to add them then they drag in XvMC which I
 am suspecting is causing the segfault crash on my wife's 32-bit Intel
 based machine:
 
 lightning mythtv # emerge -pv1 xf86-video-intel
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N] app-admin/eselect-xvmc-0.1  0 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.4  USE=-debug 220 kB
 [ebuild  N] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.6.3-r1  USE=dri -debug 772 kB
 
 Total: 3 packages (3 new), Size of downloads: 992 kB
 lightning mythtv #
 
 I am curious as to whether this matters. xvmc is one of the rendering
 technologies and is pretty much default with Myth. On my wife's
 machine neither implementation is selected. Possibly that's part of
 the problem on her machine. I'll have to play with that a bit:
 
 dragonfly ~ # eselect xvmc list
 Available XvMC implementations ( * is current ):
   [1]xorg-x11
   [2]   intel
 dragonfly ~ #
 
 I don't know what other clues to give you. I'm going back to xorg-1.3
 as we speak to see if I can get her machine working again. I'll let
 you know how it goes.
 
 - Mark
 

In my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, the only errors are as follows:

camille ~ # grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(EE) Unable to locate/open config file
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
(EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so failed
(/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
or directory)
(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering


Now I don't know what /dev/fb0 is, but the /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so I

Re: [gentoo-user] gecko-mediaplayer inconsistent dependencies

2009-04-16 Thread Grant
 The gecko-mediaplayer ebuild RDEPEND is as follows:

 RDEPEND=dev-libs/dbus-glib

     =media-video/gnome-mplayer-0.6.2
     
     || ( =net-libs/xulrunner-1.8*

         =www-client/mozilla-firefox-2*
         =www-client/seamonkey-1*
         www-client/epiphany )

 I'm not sure how to interpret that, but on one system portage wants to
 downgrade to mozilla-firefox-2* and on the other it does not.  Can
 anyone tell me why that is?

 - Grant

 The trick is in that || symbol. Any one of the xulrunner, firefox, seamonkey
 or epiphany versions listed will do.

 My guess would be that one machine has xulrunner installed, the other does not

They both had xulrunner installed but only one had xulrunner-1.8
installed.  I installed it on the other and now the dependencies
resolve great.  Thanks for your help.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Battery knock out

2009-04-16 Thread Mick
Hi All,

It seems that my laptop battery is about to give up the ghost.  It
used to run all the way down to 2% before the machine shut down (well,
it actually never shut down - just crashed).  Now it is knocked out
with as much as 10-11% left.  Is there some setting I can configure to
control this, or is it a matter of battery strength/health?

PS.  When I run /etc/init.d/cpufreqd I get:

Apr 16 16:33:47 lappy cpufreqd: cpufreqd_set_profile : Couldn't
set profile Performance Low set for cpu0

What's missing there?
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] SLiM fails to load Fluxbox

2009-04-16 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:28:26 +0200
schrieb Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com:

 Dear all,
 I'm using x11-misc/slim as a login manager, and I have troubles with
 loading any DE other than Xfce. I've followed the wiki entry [1], but
 I must still be doing something wrong: it fails to load Fluxbox
 whether I select Fluxbox or Xfce with F1.
 It's actually quite funny: selecting Fluxbox I get Xfce loaded on top
 of Fluxbox; in this case, when I log out of Xfce I fall back onto
 Fluxbox. I suspect that an xfce entry is left in some init script,
 but i cannot figure out where it would be.
 Thanks,
 Liviu
 
 [1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/SLiM
 
 
 [I] x11-misc/slim
  Installed versions:  1.3.1-r5(16:01:49 08/04/09)(branding pam screenshot)
 [I] x11-wm/fluxbox
  Installed versions:  1.0.0-r2(15:08:30 12/10/08)(gnome imlib nls
 slit toolbar truetype -kde -vim-syntax -xinerama)
 
 li...@localhost ~ $ rc-status default | grep -i xdm
  xdm[ started 
  ]
 li...@localhost ~ $ cat /etc/conf.d/xdm | grep -i slim
 DISPLAYMANAGER=slim
 li...@localhost ~ $ cat .xinitrc
 #SLiM session call
 DEFAULT_SESSION=dbus-launch startxfce4
  ^^
This sets DEFAULT_SESSION to dbus-launch and then executes startxfce4. That
would explain why you have fluxbox and xfce both started simultaneously. You
need to put the whole thing in quotes, like so:

  DEFAULT_SESSION=dbus-launch startxfce4

 
 case $1 in
 fluxbox)
   exec startfluxbox
   ;;
 *)
   exec $DEFAULT_SESSION
   ;;
 esac
 
 # load local modmap
 test -r $HOME/.Xmodmap  xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap
 
 li...@localhost ~ $ cat /etc/slim.conf | grep -i login_cmd
 login_cmd   exec /bin/bash -login ~/.xinitrc %session
 li...@localhost ~ $ cat /etc/slim.conf | grep -i sessions
 sessionsxfce,fluxbox
 li...@localhost ~ $ cat /etc/slim.conf | grep -i sessionst
 #sessionstart_cmd /usr/bin/sessreg -a -l :0.0 %user
 #sessionstop_cmd /usr/bin/sessreg -d -l :0.0 %user

HTH
-- 
Marc Joliet
--
Lt. Frank Drebin: It's true what they say: cops and women don't mix. Like
eating a spoonful of Drāno; sure, it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you
hollow inside.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Battery knock out

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 It seems that my laptop battery is about to give up the ghost.  It
 used to run all the way down to 2% before the machine shut down (well,
 it actually never shut down - just crashed).  Now it is knocked out
 with as much as 10-11% left.  Is there some setting I can configure to
 control this, or is it a matter of battery strength/health?

 PS.  When I run /etc/init.d/cpufreqd I get:

 Apr 16 16:33:47 lappy cpufreqd: cpufreqd_set_profile : Couldn't
 set profile Performance Low set for cpu0

 What's missing there?

I'm not an expert and this is just a guess. If the battery/computer
has some time remaining calculation that it uses, 10% power
remaining now might give the same amount of usable time as 2% used to,
if the battery is discharging faster than before.



Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults [SOLVED]

2009-04-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 09:40 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 18:19 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  SNIP
   [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
   [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
   mythfrontend[31548]: segfault at 6f732e4c ip 6f732e4c sp bfe0b09c error
   4
   [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
   [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
   mythfrontend[32128]: segfault at 6f732e4c ip 6f732e4c sp bffb8a4c error
   4
   [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
   [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
   mythfrontend[32527]: segfault at 6f732e4c ip 6f732e4c sp bf98041c error
   4
  SNIP
  
   Here's what I could gather from Xorg.0.log:
  
   camille log # grep EE Xorg.0.log
  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
   (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
   (EE) Failed to load module type1 (module does not exist, 0)
   (EE) Failed to load module freetype (module does not exist, 0)
   (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so failed
   (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
   or directory)
   (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
   camille log # grep WW Xorg.0.log
  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
   (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/CID/ does not exist.
   (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/OTF does not exist.
   (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or
   directory)
   (WW) Warning, couldn't open module type1
   (WW) Warning, couldn't open module freetype
   (WW) intel(0): libpciaccess reported 0 rom size, guessing 64kB
   (WW) intel(0): ESR is 0x0001, instruction error
   (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state.
  
  SNIP
  
  This is all suggesting to me a fairly serious setup problem, but not
  necessarily a problem with Myth.
  
  You are correct - there is no mythfrontend log file. That would be on
  your server. My mistake. You still might want to look through the tail
  of that file but I doubt anything about this will be there.
  
  As I said earlier, you should simply remove the freetype line from the
  fonts section of your xorg.conf file. It's not an issue though.
  PRobably the same for the type1 font, assuming it's a font. Xorg isn't
  finding those fonts which jsut means it cannot use them. That's not
  going to cause a crash in Myth though.
  
  I'm not understanding why your system isn't finding the right video
  driver. It appears hal wants you to run the i915 driver. Is the i915
  driver in memory? (lsmod|grep i915)
  
  Is it on your system? On the 32-bit machine they are in /usr/lib/dri.
  Your Xorg.0.log file says they aren't there. Why not?
  
  dragonfly ~ # ls -la /usr/lib/dri/
  total 8824
  drwxr-xr-x   2 root root4096 2009-04-12 08:37 .
  drwxr-xr-x 125 root root   77824 2009-04-14 17:22 ..
  -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 2150796 2009-04-12 08:37 i810_dri.so
  -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 2372108 2009-04-12 08:37 i915_dri.so
  -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 2422028 2009-04-12 08:37 i965_dri.so
  -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 1978328 2009-04-12 08:37 swrast_dri.so
  dragonfly ~ #
  
  If they really aren't there then you need to build them. They are
  provided byxf86-video-intel.  I don't have them on this AMD64 machine
  but note that if I wanted to add them then they drag in XvMC which I
  am suspecting is causing the segfault crash on my wife's 32-bit Intel
  based machine:
  
  lightning mythtv # emerge -pv1 xf86-video-intel
  
  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
  
  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild  N] app-admin/eselect-xvmc-0.1  0 kB
  [ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.4  USE=-debug 220 kB
  [ebuild  N] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.6.3-r1  USE=dri -debug 772 
  kB
  
  Total: 3 packages (3 new), Size of downloads: 992 kB
  lightning mythtv #
  
  I am curious as to whether this matters. xvmc is one of the rendering
  technologies and is pretty much default with Myth. On my wife's
  machine neither implementation is selected. Possibly that's part of
  the problem on her machine. I'll have to play with that a bit:
  
  dragonfly ~ # eselect xvmc list
  Available XvMC implementations ( * is current ):
[1]xorg-x11
[2]   intel
  dragonfly ~ #
  
  I don't know what other clues to give you. I'm going back to xorg-1.3
  as we speak to see if I can get her machine working again. I'll let
  you know how it goes.
  
  - Mark
  
 
 In my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, the only errors are as follows:
 
 camille ~ # grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
 (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
 (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so failed
 (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: 

Re: [gentoo-user] Pausing kernel startup ?

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Thomas Chef wrote:
 Is it somehow possible to pause the kernel's startup text output ?.
 The text is so fast so there is no way of reading it. 

I usually hit the scroll lock key and it works every time for me.  Hit
it again and it continues on.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] SLiM fails to load Fluxbox

2009-04-16 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:
 li...@localhost ~ $ cat .xinitrc
 #SLiM session call
 DEFAULT_SESSION=dbus-launch startxfce4
                  ^^
 This sets DEFAULT_SESSION to dbus-launch and then executes startxfce4. That
 would explain why you have fluxbox and xfce both started simultaneously. You
 need to put the whole thing in quotes, like so:

  DEFAULT_SESSION=dbus-launch startxfce4

That's news to me. Now it works fine. I also put the info in the wiki article.
Thanks.
Liviu



Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP

 In my /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, the only errors are as follows:

 camille ~ # grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
 (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
 (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so failed
 (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file
 or directory)
 (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering


 Now I don't know what /dev/fb0 is, but the /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so I
 think I should have, but I don't.

 camille ~ # locate i915_dri.so
 camille ~ # ls -l /usr/lib/dri
 total 2004
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2047960 Apr 12 03:17 swrast_dri.so


 Where can I get this file?

This was caused by you and I following the somewhat generic upgrade
instructions. fb = Frame Buffer.

Under VIDEO_CARDS=intel fb vesa (that's all from meory but you'll
know it when you look at your make.conf file you probably added fb or
fbdev - whatever it was. If you and I don't use frame buffers then you
and I should remove it, or so I think. Then when X starts it won't
have those drivers to load and it won't look for stuff we don't have
in our kernels.

Hope this helps,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults [SOLVED]

2009-04-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP

 Now I don't know what /dev/fb0 is, but the /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so I
 think I should have, but I don't.

 camille ~ # locate i915_dri.so
 camille ~ # ls -l /usr/lib/dri
 total 2004
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2047960 Apr 12 03:17 swrast_dri.so


 Where can I get this file?

 I found /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so on one of my other boxes and ran equery
 belongs on it.  It belonged to media-libs/mesa.  I re-merged mesa and
 rebooted X and myth works.  I checked LiveTV and it works too.


Thanks. that's great news, although somewhat perplexing to me. None
the less I shall attempt to duplicate it this afternoon and see if my
wife's machine is fixed.

thanks much,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:56:03 -0500, Dale wrote:

   
 have been using lsusb and udev monitor to check for what the kernel
 sees.  So far, it has seen nothing at all.
 

 They only show you what udev sees, do any of your USB devices show up in
 dmesg? If not, either your kernel or your hardware is broken, and
 kernels don't often break without recompilation.

 If dmesg shows it, you have a software problem, but it can't be anything
 to do with X or your USB ports would work if you booted in text mode.
 Use genlop with the --date argument to see what you emerged since your
 USB last worked, then start with the obvious suspects.
   

   

dmesg shows nothing and there is nothing in messages either.  Usually
mine shows up in messages and dmesg is always the same.  I'm not sure
why that is tho.

I'm using the same kernel because I can't compile a new one.  Gcc-4.3
doesn't like a 2.6.23 kernel and after it compiles a little while, it
fails with a error.  I googled it and they know it but the fix hasn't
made it to Gentoo yet I guess, at least not in stable anyway.  So, given
that, I know I haven't recompiled a new kernel since I can't.

I do know that I went through the xorg-server upgrade and that I
upgraded gcc.  I suspect that something related to the xorg-server
upgrade got recompiled and either doesn't like my kernel or that maybe
gcc has more troubles than was thought.  I switched back to my old gcc
and am doing a emerge -ev ivman which would include hal, dbus, udev and
all their little friends.  If after this it works, this could very well
be a gcc problem.

I also agree that it could be a hardware failure but not real likely.  I
got plenty of cooling here and I'm plugged into a surge protector and a
UPS as well.  While it is still possible, it is unlikely.  It is funny
that my printer is also dead in the water.  It's not a device problem,
broke camera or something, since they both stopped working at the same time.

Will report back later when my recompile finishes.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0500, Dale wrote:

 I also agree that it could be a hardware failure but not real likely.  I
 got plenty of cooling here and I'm plugged into a surge protector and a
 UPS as well.  While it is still possible, it is unlikely.  It is funny
 that my printer is also dead in the water.

Isn't the printer US too? It sounds like a dead USB controller. Try
booting from a live CD and seeing if USB works.


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Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0500, Dale wrote:

   
 I also agree that it could be a hardware failure but not real likely.  I
 got plenty of cooling here and I'm plugged into a surge protector and a
 UPS as well.  While it is still possible, it is unlikely.  It is funny
 that my printer is also dead in the water.
 

 Isn't the printer US too? It sounds like a dead USB controller. Try
 booting from a live CD and seeing if USB works.


   

I'll have to check and see what bootable CDs I have around here.  Some
are pretty old and I have never tried to use USB on them before.  I do
see a 2006 Gentoo CD.  Would that have USB drivers on it?

Based on other issues I have ran into here, things not compiling and
errors during compiling, I'm really wondering about gcc.  Gcc 4.3 will
not compile a working kernel at all.  The first compiled fine but
wouldn't boot.  The next booted but things wouldn't work that I know has
the right drivers installed.  Now, I can't even get a kernel to
compile.  I been trying to upgrade to 2.6.29 but always have to go back
to my trusty old 2.6.23.  I have switched back to gcc 4.2 and am
recompiling packages with it, up to ivman anyway.

This is getting weird.  My emerge -ev ivman is about through so I will
reboot and try that then a CD boot.

Also, how does one restart udev?  Does going to rc single then back
to rc default restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
do this.  This is Linux.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, how does one restart udev?  Does going to rc single then back
 to rc default restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
 do this.

/etc/init.d/udev restart

is what i would try :)



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Also, how does one restart udev?  Does going to rc single then back
 to rc default restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
 do this.
 

 /etc/init.d/udev restart

 is what i would try :)


   

If I had one, I would too.  lol

r...@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
r...@smoker / #

What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
appears you have?

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
In 58965d8a0904151141u394849ckc7b241dddf686...@mail.gmail.com 
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com (Paul Hartman) writes:

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Konstantinos Agouros elw...@agouros.de 
wrote:
 Hi,

 I am having problems with some webpages in FireFox as well as Eclipse.
 Fonts are totally garbled. It looks like they were written with chalk
 and then somebody wiped over them. A redraw fixes is sometimes but
 then it gets garbled again. I am using nvidia-drivers 96.XX for legacy
 reasons.

Check this list's archives from a couple weeks ago for a thread called
Ugly fonts on some seb sites (sic), there were a couple of hints
posted by Nikos Chantziaras that really made my fonts look a lot
better in Firefox and friends. Maybe it will help you, too.
The upgrade to the 96.XX version from ~x86 resolved it.

-- 
Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de
Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185

Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
In 20090416054846.ga9...@pacific.net.au zek...@gmail.com (Gregory Shearman) 
writes:

In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote:
 In 20090415113152.ga11...@pacific.net.au zek...@gmail.com (Gregory 
 Shearman) writes:

I solved the problem by adding nvidia-drivers
(x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~x86) to /etc/portage/package.keywords. The
latest 96.XX driver was installed which was 96.43.11

You do need:

=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-100.00.00

in /etc/portage/package.mask so that the latest (~x86) 96.XX driver will be 
installed.

I'm not sure if it will work for you, but maybe it's work a try.
 Thanks for the tip. Do I need to rebuild anything but nvidia-drivers?

No, I just added the nvidia drivers line to
/etc/portage/package.keywords and emerged the nvidia-drivers. I hope it
works for you.
Yup it did. A great many thanks!
-- 
Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de
Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185

Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Konstantinos Agouros wrote:

 Yup it did. A great many thanks!
   

Somewhat on topic.  How does one know what version of nvidia-drivers to
use for their card?  I went to the nvidia site and my card is not listed
anywhere.  I have a FX-5200 with 128Mbs of ram I think.  I'm just
curious cause I have trouble when I try to upgrade the drivers.  I'm
currently using nvidia-drivers-173.14.09.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, how does one restart udev?  Does going to rc single then back
 to rc default restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
 do this.


 /etc/init.d/udev restart

 is what i would try :)




 If I had one, I would too.  lol

 r...@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
 r...@smoker / #

 What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
 appears you have?

 Dale

 :-)  :-)



rc-update show --verbose

What does it show? Post your results back. I'm interested.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Dell laptop install fail

2009-04-16 Thread Francisco Rivas
Hi, What Dell Laptop do you have?. because I tried to install Gentoo amd64
in a E4300 and it fails, did not recognize the ethernet and some problems
install packages.



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Mike Kazantsev
mike_kazant...@fraggod.netwrote:

 On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:34:02 +1000
 Adam Carter adam.car...@optus.com.au wrote:

  Much like http://bugs.gentoo.org/26150 the ia64 boot cd is not
 recognised and the bios falls through to boot the hard disk. Knoppix boots
 fine, but if i were to try to install from 32 bit knoppix it will fail as
 soon as I chroot as i would then be attempting to run 64 bit binaries from
 the stage3 tarball using the 32 bit knoppix kernel. Do i understand that
 correctly? And if so, what are my options for installing 64 bit gentoo?
 
  tnx

 ia64 is an arch for Intel Itanium server processors, a laptop should
 have amd64-compatible processor, so just try this one.

 --
 Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net




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http://beck3r.wordpress.com/
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Linux Machine (New) : 355187


Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Also, how does one restart udev?  Does going to rc single then back
 to rc default restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
 do this.
 

 /etc/init.d/udev restart

 is what i would try :)


   

Here is the results.  I went back to my old gcc and did a emerge -ev
ivman.  I ran revdep-rebuild -i afterwards to make sure everything
was good there.  All was well with the links and such.  I then rebooted
and booted a CD.  I made sure my printer was on and hooked up my camera
as well.  Both devices showed up in the list on lsusb.  That cleared
my hardware.  Hardware is good.  Whew!!

I then booted back from the hard drive to my old kernel, 2.6.23.  I
logged into KDE and after the desktop came up and all my usual windows
opened from my saved session, I turned my camera back on.  I then went
to run lsusb but before I could do that, the icon was on my desktop and
shortly after that the pop up window came up.  KDE sees my camera and
lsusb shows both products.

Given the fact that all I did was recompile with the older gcc, I
suspect there is something wrong with what the newer gcc was compiling. 
Here is gcc-config:

r...@smoker / # gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2
r...@smoker / #

I was using gcc 4.3 but switched back to gcc 4.1.  I'm not a developer
and I don't feel right about filing a bug since I can't really tell them
what is broke but something is wrong somewhere.  I have not syncd my
tree and it was a reinstall of the same version of packages.  No config
files were updated or listed that needs to be updated either. 
Basically, the only difference is the compiler.

Ideas?  Thoughts? 

Thanks much for the help too.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote:

 rc-update show --verbose

 What does it show? Post your results back. I'm interested.

 - Mark


   

This is it:

r...@smoker / # rc-update show --verbose
   acpid |
   alsasound |
bootmisc | boot
 checkfs | boot
   checkroot | boot
   clock | boot
 consolefont | boot
  consolekit |
 crypto-loop |
   cupsd |  default
dbus |
   device-mapper |
 dmcrypt |
dmeventd |
 dnsextd |
  esound |
 folding |
gkrellmd |
 gpm |
hald |  default
 hddtemp |
  hdparm |
hostname | boot
  hsqldb |
 http-replicator |
   ip6tables |
iptables |
   ivman |  default
 keymaps | boot
lisa |
   local |  default nonetwork
  localmount | boot
  mDNSResponderPosix |
   mdnsd |
 modules | boot
net.eth0 |
  net.lo | boot
netmount |  default
nscd |
  ntp-client |
ntpd |  default
 numlock |  default
 nvclock |
 pciparm |
  portagexsd |
 pwcheck |
   pydoc-2.5 |
 reslisa |
   rmnologin | boot
  rsyncd |
   saslauthd |
  smartd |  default
sshd |
   syslog-ng |  default
  udev-postmount |
upsd |  default
  upsdrv |  default
  upsmon |  default
 urandom | boot
  vixie-cron |  default
 xdm |  default
  xinetd |
  xprint |
r...@smoker / #

There is nothing but udev-postmount in init.d at all.  Since you like a
rather lengthy list, here is another one:

r...@smoker / # ls /etc/init.d/
total 354
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  1896 Apr 16 15:21 .
drwxr-xr-x 75 root root  4680 Apr 16 15:57 ..
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   818 Apr  6 07:57 acpid
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  6557 Apr  6 13:58 alsasound
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3661 Apr 16 12:28 bootmisc
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1188 Apr 16 12:28 checkfs
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3226 Apr 16 12:28 checkroot
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3054 Apr 16 12:28 clock
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1429 Apr 16 12:28 consolefont
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   540 Apr  6 18:24 consolekit
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1729 Apr 16 13:20 crypto-loop
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   305 Apr  6 22:49 cupsd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1152 Apr 16 13:26 dbus
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root21 Apr 16 12:28 depscan.sh -
../../sbin/depscan.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   628 Apr 16 12:11 device-mapper
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   660 Apr 16 12:36 dmcrypt
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   547 Apr 16 12:11 dmeventd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   998 Apr  6 12:48 dnsextd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   993 Apr  6 11:44 esound
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 51410 Dec 13 02:37 folding
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root23 Apr 16 12:28 functions.sh -
../../sbin/functions.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   637 Apr  7 01:18 gkrellmd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   951 Apr 16 13:16 gpm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   Apr 16 15:19 hald
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  5606 Apr 16 12:28 halt.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   547 Apr  6 09:52 hddtemp
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3407 Apr  6 07:20 hdparm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   433 Apr 16 12:28 hostname
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   464 Apr  6 13:03 hsqldb
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   762 Apr  6 11:40 http-replicator
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2570 Apr  6 08:17 ip6tables
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2570 Apr  6 08:17 iptables
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   524 Apr 16 15:20 ivman
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1874 Apr 16 12:28 keymaps
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   546 Apr  7 13:04 lisa
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   620 Apr 16 12:28 local
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2088 Apr 16 12:28 localmount
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1247 Apr  6 12:48 mDNSResponderPosix
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   845 Apr  6 12:48 mdnsd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  2947 Apr 16 12:28 modules
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 6 Apr 16 12:28 net.eth0 - net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 30696 Apr 16 12:28 net.lo
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  3311 Apr 16 12:28 netmount
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1566 Apr 16 14:06 nscd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   833 Apr  6 14:09 ntp-client
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   827 Apr  6 14:09 ntpd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   670 Apr 16 12:28 numlock
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   146 Apr  7 02:56 nvclock
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1871 Apr 16 12:17 pciparm
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   390 Apr  6 09:02 portagexsd
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   538 Apr  6 13:50 pwcheck
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   666 Apr 16 14:38 pydoc-2.5
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   304 Apr 16 12:25 reboot.sh
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   557 Apr  7 13:04 reslisa
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   276 Apr 16 12:28 rmnologin
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  

Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, how does one restart udev?  Does going to rc single then back
 to rc default restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
 do this.


 /etc/init.d/udev restart

 is what i would try :)




 If I had one, I would too.  lol

 r...@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
 r...@smoker / #

 What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
 appears you have?

 Dale

 Maybe I'm using a different udev?

 [ Searching for file(s) /etc/init.d/udev in *... ]
 sys-fs/udev-141 (/etc/init.d/udev)


(which, by the way, also owns the udev-postmount script)



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Somewhat on topic.  How does one know what version of nvidia-drivers to
 use for their card?  I went to the nvidia site and my card is not listed
 anywhere.  I have a FX-5200 with 128Mbs of ram I think.  I'm just
 curious cause I have trouble when I try to upgrade the drivers.  I'm
 currently using nvidia-drivers-173.14.09.

The readme file in the driver archive (and on the unix download page
at ndivia's site) contains the list of supported GPUs and which driver
can operate them. The FX-5200 is listed as being supported by the
legacy driver 173.14.xx series.



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hartman
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Paul Hartman wrote:
   
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Also, how does one restart udev?  Does going to rc single then back
 to rc default restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
 do this.

   
 /etc/init.d/udev restart

 is what i would try :)



 
 If I had one, I would too.  lol

 r...@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
 r...@smoker / #

 What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
 appears you have?

 Dale
   
 Maybe I'm using a different udev?

 [ Searching for file(s) /etc/init.d/udev in *... ]
 sys-fs/udev-141 (/etc/init.d/udev)

 

 (which, by the way, also owns the udev-postmount script)


   

Well here is something funny, no sound now.  Working on it.  lspci -v
shows the driver is not loaded for some reason.  It is built into the
kernel so not sure why that is.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Somewhat on topic.  How does one know what version of nvidia-drivers to
 use for their card?  I went to the nvidia site and my card is not listed
 anywhere.  I have a FX-5200 with 128Mbs of ram I think.  I'm just
 curious cause I have trouble when I try to upgrade the drivers.  I'm
 currently using nvidia-drivers-173.14.09.
 

 The readme file in the driver archive (and on the unix download page
 at ndivia's site) contains the list of supported GPUs and which driver
 can operate them. The FX-5200 is listed as being supported by the
 legacy driver 173.14.xx series.


   

OK.  I looked on the site but couldn't find anything even close to my
FX-5200.  Maybe I was in the wrong place or something.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, how does one restart udev?  Does going to rc single then back
 to rc default restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
 do this.


 /etc/init.d/udev restart

 is what i would try :)




 If I had one, I would too.  lol

 r...@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
 r...@smoker / #

 What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
 appears you have?

 Dale

Maybe I'm using a different udev?

[ Searching for file(s) /etc/init.d/udev in *... ]
sys-fs/udev-141 (/etc/init.d/udev)



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Paul Hartman
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Paul Hartman wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:


 Also, how does one restart udev?  Does going to rc single then back
 to rc default restart udev?  Surely a person doesn't have to reboot to
 do this.


 /etc/init.d/udev restart

 is what i would try :)




 If I had one, I would too.  lol

 r...@smoker / # ls -al /etc/init.d/ud*
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 508 Apr 16 12:27 /etc/init.d/udev-postmount
 r...@smoker / #

 What is udev-postmount anyway?  Why do I not have something that it
 appears you have?

 Dale

 Maybe I'm using a different udev?

 [ Searching for file(s) /etc/init.d/udev in *... ]
 sys-fs/udev-141 (/etc/init.d/udev)



 (which, by the way, also owns the udev-postmount script)




 Well here is something funny, no sound now.  Working on it.  lspci -v
 shows the driver is not loaded for some reason.  It is built into the
 kernel so not sure why that is.

 Dale

When my sound goes belly up I just run alsaconf and it magically fixes
it (though I use modules)



Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts garbled with Xorg 1.5

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Somewhat on topic.  How does one know what version of nvidia-drivers to
 use for their card?  I went to the nvidia site and my card is not listed
 anywhere.  I have a FX-5200 with 128Mbs of ram I think.  I'm just
 curious cause I have trouble when I try to upgrade the drivers.  I'm
 currently using nvidia-drivers-173.14.09.


 The readme file in the driver archive (and on the unix download page
 at ndivia's site) contains the list of supported GPUs and which driver
 can operate them. The FX-5200 is listed as being supported by the
 legacy driver 173.14.xx series.




 OK.  I looked on the site but couldn't find anything even close to my
 FX-5200.  Maybe I was in the wrong place or something.

Here's the list section of the README file on the web:

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.44/README/appendix-a.html



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-16 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 
 Well here is something funny, no sound now.  Working on it.  lspci -v
 shows the driver is not loaded for some reason.  It is built into the
 kernel so not sure why that is.

 Dale
 

 When my sound goes belly up I just run alsaconf and it magically fixes
 it (though I use modules)


   

Well, it turns out that those won't run here.  I'm about to run emerge
-ev world and let it recompile everything here.  I think this gcc thing
is going deeper than I thought.  If things work after this emerge, I'm
going to know that on my system, gcc 4.3 is not a good upgrade. 

I checked again and I was looking at the joystick part of the card which
is not installed.  It is loading the sound driver so it is something
else keeping it from working.

Oh, it will take a day or so to do this emerge.  It's big for sure.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] IDE is called hda

2009-04-16 Thread kyle . bader
I'm unsure if lilo supports booting by filesystem label/uuid but that's what I 
do with grub. Might be woth looking into

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chef thomas.c...@gmail.com

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:07:08 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] IDE is called hda


Aha I understand.

But what if my cd installation names my disk hda,
but when I download the gentoo kernel source and build it it will use sda.
So in my lilo.conf I must use hda, and when the new kernel boots it looks
for hda (because of my lilo.conf), but in that case it should be sda instead
?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote:

  On Thursday 16 April 2009 11:28:54 Thomas Chef wrote:
  From the handbook:
  To begin, we'll introduce block devices. The most famous block device is
  probably the one that represents the first drive in a Linux system,
 namely
  /dev/sda. SCSI and Serial ATA drives are both labeled /dev/sd*; even IDE
  drives are labeled /dev/sd* with the new libata framework in the kernel.
 If
  you're using the old device framework, then your first IDE drive is
  /dev/hda .
 
  But when I boot on Via Epia with my minimal installation CD 2008 I get my
  IDE-disk as /dev/hda
 
  Is the kernel on the minimal CD old ?

 Not really. It's whatever was reasonably current at the time the CD image
 was
 built.

 It's not the age of the kernel that matters here. it's which drivers are in
 use. These things are in a constant state of flux and right now the Linux
 kernel still has drivers for the old and the new way of doing things with
 disks.

 Rationale: a driver writer decided some time ago that it would be better to
 consolidate things in the kernel and use the same code-base for all types
 of
 disk. This makes things easier overall as you don't have to eternally
 figure
 out if you have IDE/SCSI/PATA/SCSI/something_else drives - the thing is
 always
 going to be /dev/sd**

 But you can still use the old drivers and framework if you choose.
 Apparently,
 whoever mastered that CD did choose. Point being, if /dev/sda doesn't work
 for
 you and /dev/hda does, then you should be using /dev/hda. From your point
 of
 view, it's just a name for something

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com





Re: [gentoo-user] Battery knock out

2009-04-16 Thread Mick
On Thursday 16 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  It seems that my laptop battery is about to give up the ghost.  It
  used to run all the way down to 2% before the machine shut down (well,
  it actually never shut down - just crashed).  Now it is knocked out
  with as much as 10-11% left.  Is there some setting I can configure to
  control this, or is it a matter of battery strength/health?
 
  PS.  When I run /etc/init.d/cpufreqd I get:
 
  Apr 16 16:33:47 lappy cpufreqd: cpufreqd_set_profile : Couldn't
  set profile Performance Low set for cpu0
 
  What's missing there?

 I'm not an expert and this is just a guess. If the battery/computer
 has some time remaining calculation that it uses, 10% power
 remaining now might give the same amount of usable time as 2% used to,
 if the battery is discharging faster than before.

Right, that's what I thought too.  The battery cannot 'keep its charge' when 
under load.  Is cpufreqd and cpufrequtils enough to gracefully shutdown the 
laptop, or is there some additional configuration required (fancy runlevels 
and what have you)?

-- 
Regards,
Mick



RE: [gentoo-user] Dell laptop install fail

2009-04-16 Thread Adam Carter



From: Francisco Rivas [mailto:taken...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:11 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Dell laptop install fail

Hi, What Dell Laptop do you have?. because I tried to install Gentoo amd64 in a 
E4300 and it fails, did not recognize the ethernet and some problems install 
packages.

Its a Studio 1737. I found the old 2.6.19 kerneled Knoppix didnt pick up the 
hardware properly (eg didnt autoload tg3 for the ethernet, many unknown devices 
in dmesg), but 2.6.27 i'm using now seems fine so far. So make sure you use the 
latest kernel you can, and enable the Dell specific kernel options.


Re: [gentoo-user] Battery knock out

2009-04-16 Thread W.Kenworthy
If using gnome look for gnome-power-manager (it sucks so i usually kill
it), otherwise laptopmode may be installed (configurable shutdown
levels I think).  Can also be a bios setting on some laptops - on my old
dell it was independent to the OS.  I actually run a perl daemon to do
it - seems more reliable :)

BillK



On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 11:06 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  It seems that my laptop battery is about to give up the ghost.  It
  used to run all the way down to 2% before the machine shut down (well,
  it actually never shut down - just crashed).  Now it is knocked out
  with as much as 10-11% left.  Is there some setting I can configure to
  control this, or is it a matter of battery strength/health?
 
  PS.  When I run /etc/init.d/cpufreqd I get:
 
  Apr 16 16:33:47 lappy cpufreqd: cpufreqd_set_profile : Couldn't
  set profile Performance Low set for cpu0
 
  What's missing there?
 
 I'm not an expert and this is just a guess. If the battery/computer
 has some time remaining calculation that it uses, 10% power
 remaining now might give the same amount of usable time as 2% used to,
 if the battery is discharging faster than before.
 




Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-16 Thread Thomas Chef
Thanks for all your support.

Yesterday evening I reconfigured the kernel again, and I added SCSI I think,
but I also removed some generic IDE drivers and just kept the VIA driver for
ide. Recompiled, and rebooted. And voila, it booted :) I will compare the
two .config's to see what I actually did that made it work.

But there is a lot of work left before it's complete:
* APCI don't work (powerbutton)
* Framebuffer at startup (like on the install-cd, which looks nice)
* Mouse-support (maybe this comes with the framebuffer, as I can see it
detects the mouse)
* Swedish keymap (I didnt get the config correct, but I know how to now)
* X
(Hmm. If I would have choosen Windows instead, I would have been up and
running with Cubase in 3 hours max, but I would not have learned so much)

A few questions:
- When I recompile the kernel and replace an existingly (in lilo) configured
kernel, do I have to rerun lilo ?
- Neil: How have you configured your frambuffer support in lilo/grub ? The
handbook is some what confusing in this matter I think ?
- How much do I earn in speed by optimising and removing unneeded options in
the kernel ? Or is it just kernel-size ?


Re: [gentoo-user] Battery knock out

2009-04-16 Thread Mick
On Friday 17 April 2009, W.Kenworthy wrote:
 If using gnome look for gnome-power-manager (it sucks so i usually kill
 it), otherwise laptopmode may be installed (configurable shutdown
 levels I think).  Can also be a bios setting on some laptops - on my old
 dell it was independent to the OS.  I actually run a perl daemon to do
 it - seems more reliable :)

Thanks Bill, it seems that the BIOS does not contain any such setting.  I am 
using Fluxbox which does not have all this functionality of Gnome/KDE.  With 
laptopmode, do you mean: app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools?
-- 
Regards,
Mick