Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Once again the emerge @preserved-rebuild loop

2009-12-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:17:25 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 and now the preserved-rebuild info is gone.
 
 myth12 ~ # emerge -p @preserved-rebuild
 emerge: 'preserved-rebuild' is an empty set
 emerge: no targets left after set expansion
 myth12 ~ #
 
 So I guess it's fixed. Right? Right...

If emerge -uD world and revdep-rebuild complete without errors, yes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Looong delays

2009-12-03 Thread Dirk Uys
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:

 On 12/02/2009 01:22 PM, Dirk Uys wrote:

 Hi

 This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work,
 Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk
 access, the PC slows down to a halt? I remember some issue between
 Firefox and the kernel causing long pauses, but I've had several
 different kernel versions running.
 [...]


 It's a known problem.  I have the same issue.  But there is a solution:
 start disk I/O heavy tasks with ionice -c3.  For emerge, this can be done
 automatically by putting this in your make.conf:

  PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND=ionice -c 3 -p \${PID}

 ionice is in sys-apps/util-linux so it should be installed already.




Thanx, I don't have time at the moment to test it, but I will surely try
this.

Regards
Dirk


Re: [gentoo-user] Looong delays

2009-12-03 Thread Dirk Uys
2009/12/2 Jesús Guerrero i92gu...@terra.es

 On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 13:22:38 +0200, Dirk Uys dirkc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi
 
  This has been bothering me for some time now. I have a Dell PC at work,
  Intel Core2 Duo with 4gb ram etc. Whenever something does a lot of disk
  access, the PC slows down to a halt? I remember some issue between
 Firefox
  and the kernel causing long pauses, but I've had several different
 kernel
  versions running.
 
  I also use the ntfs-3g driver for write access to a doze partition, but
  although the degradation in performance more severe with the ntfs-3g
  driver,
  access to the native (ext3) partition also drags the system down for a
  while.
 
  I checked obvious things like whether or not I enable SMP in the kernel.
 I
  tried changing the kernel pre-emption from low latency desktop to
 desktop,
  but the problem persist. The application that is mostly involved when I
 get
  these long delays is FireFox, VMWare and emerge (emerge --sync).
  Everything
  is compiled 64bit but I have the 32bit emulation libs.
 
  Can anyone point me into some direction?
 
  Regards
  Dirk

 I know I am hitting at the obvious, but I can't be sure you already
 checked that.

 Since the applications you are using can be quite intensive in memory
 usage, did you check whether you are hitting swap or not?

 --
 Jesús Guerrero



It's possible, but I don't remember running into swap that much. If I ran
VMWare, I normally use a machine with 2GB memory. But still, my system at
home which use to have 512mb didn't run into swap with firefox running a
similar amount of tabs (I normally have about 12 tabs open of which most is
static HTML - reference docs)

I'll try to see if there is something else eating RAM and causing me to go
into swap.

Thanks
Dirk


[gentoo-user] CONFIG_IDE is always set

2009-12-03 Thread Xi Shen
hi,

i am using genkernel to compile my kernel. i have CONFIG_IDE set to
no, but after i boot my system, in the /proc/config.gz file, the
CONFIG_IDE is still set to y.

i have checked the file /etc/kernels and /usr/src/linux/.config, and
the CONFIG_IDE is set to no.

it looks like the genkernel is not using my kernel configuration file
to compile my kernel, is it? how can i fix this?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: threads in thunderbird (WAS:decrapify your kernel config)

2009-12-03 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 02.12.2009 22:01, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 I always think of the possibility to somehow bookmark a thread and to be
 able to quickcheck all these threads for replies, without the need of
 scrolling through miles of other postings (yep, I already sort mails
 into folders and use the threaded view).

Thunderbird 3 can do something like that when combining search, virtual
folders and the favorite folder view. So you just have to wait for TB3
to be ready or use the mozilla overlay and get the latest release
candidate today.

Greetings

Sebastian



Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless...

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Edenfield

On 12/2/2009 9:17 PM, BRM wrote:

I have wireless working (b43legacy driver for the Dell Wireless Broadcom) 
through a static configuration in /etc/conf.d/net - basically:

essid_wlan0=myWLAN
key_MYWLAN=somekey
config_MYWLAN=( dhcp )
preferred_APS= ( myWLAN )

I would like to use a tool like WPA Supplicant instead so I can have a more 
dynamic configuration.
I've tried to setup WPA supplicant but haven't been able to get it to work.


Probably not what you wanted to hear, but I had the exact 
same problem with the Dell bcm-based adapter in my Inspiron 
laptop.  It would work fine for open wireless and 
WEP-secured wireless, but wouldn't associated with a 
WPA-secured access point.


Eventually I spent about $30 to purchase an iwl3945 
replacement from Dell, which worked fine, and never looked back.


--Mike



[gentoo-user] X fails after new install

2009-12-03 Thread dhk
A couple of months ago when the new X came out I did an upgrade on my
x86 box and all went well.  Recently I reinstalled Gentoo on the same
box because I wanted to repartition my hard disk, now I can't get X working.

I'm using xfce4 and when I run startx or startxfce4 I get errors saying
no ati, vesa, fbdev modules and then no windows.  My make.conf has
INPUT_DEVICES=evdev and VIDEO_CARDS=fglrx.  There isn't and
xorg.conf file, but I don't think I need one anymore; also X -configure
fails.

It should work since everything worked after the upgrade, but the clean
install fails.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

dhk



Re: [gentoo-user] CONFIG_IDE is always set

2009-12-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 03 December 2009 13:21:35 Xi Shen wrote:
 hi,
 
 i am using genkernel to compile my kernel. i have CONFIG_IDE set to
 no, but after i boot my system, in the /proc/config.gz file, the
 CONFIG_IDE is still set to y.
 
 i have checked the file /etc/kernels and /usr/src/linux/.config, and
 the CONFIG_IDE is set to no.
 
 it looks like the genkernel is not using my kernel configuration file
 to compile my kernel, is it? how can i fix this?

by not using genkernel, do it yourself and do it properly

-- 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Once again the emerge @preserved-rebuild loop

2009-12-03 Thread James
Mark Knecht markknecht at gmail.com writes:


 emerge -C e2fsprogs-libs
 emerge -DuN @world?
 revdep-rebuild -i

Hello Mark,


My memory is not the sharpest these day, but, I thought
I ran across a bug that posted this as part of the 
solution. I was updating 8 different systems, some not
updated for 6 months, so it was a blur to say the least.

If I recall correctly, I had a system with only reiserfs
on it, still I need to follow these steps and install 
some package related to e2fsprogs  to get  past the complaints.
The bug was interesting enough, but sorry I do not remember
more specifics (aging brain syndrome)


hth,
James








Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Once again the emerge @preserved-rebuild loop

2009-12-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 19:17:25 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

 and now the preserved-rebuild info is gone.

 myth12 ~ # emerge -p @preserved-rebuild
 emerge: 'preserved-rebuild' is an empty set
 emerge: no targets left after set expansion
 myth12 ~ #

 So I guess it's fixed. Right? Right...

 If emerge -uD world and revdep-rebuild complete without errors, yes.


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 The people who are wrapped up in themselves are overdressed.


They did. thanks!



Re: [gentoo-user] Valve Steam on gentoo

2009-12-03 Thread Kirill Lipatov
I do have an NVIDIA card. Moreover, I have the very same version of wine on
Ubuntu and all of the games are running with no problem. It is only on
gentoo, where I have this problem.

Kirill

2009/12/3 Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz

 === On Thu, 12/03, Kirill Lipatov wrote: ===
  Any ideas?
 ===

 There are many, many Windows applications that don't run under Wine.
 Especially games. That's probably one of them.

 Even if they do, they usually run only with certain video cards.
 Usually Nvidia.



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Re: [gentoo-user] X fails after new install

2009-12-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:14:52 -0500, dhk wrote:

 I'm using xfce4 and when I run startx or startxfce4 I get errors saying
 no ati, vesa, fbdev modules and then no windows.

Please post the actual error messages.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Valve Steam on gentoo

2009-12-03 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Kirill Lipatov kirilllipa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do have an NVIDIA card. Moreover, I have the very same version of wine on
 Ubuntu and all of the games are running with no problem. It is only on
 gentoo, where I have this problem.

 Kirill


That makes me wonder a bit... you might see if you can't compare the
configuration you have for wine on both to see that they're the same,
and the use flags you have on gentoo compared to the compile time
options ubuntu used... but I'm not sure where to track those down.

Beyond that... any errors on a terminal when the games fail to load?
You might look into the WINEDEBUG variable to get a little more detail
on what's happening, but just running winecfg for a few seconds with
WINEDEBUG=all gives me about 45MB of output.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Valve Steam on gentoo

2009-12-03 Thread Arttu V.
On 12/3/09, Kirill Lipatov kirilllipa...@gmail.com wrote:
 For some reason Steam fails to start any games on my gentoo box. I am using
 wine 1.1.32 with the engine itself and the games all downloaded to gentoo's
 partition (not the ntfs3g problem). Steam itself loads fine, but when I
 click launch the game nothing happens.

 This is very said because Steam is the only reason why I still have to deal
 with Windows :(

 Any ideas?

You have probably already seen this bug and checked if it matches your problem:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/230962

What a lucky discovery the last commenter made there.

-- 
Arttu V.



[gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread felix
I have a project which requires normalizing names, and by that, I mean
converting to lower case etc, whatever eliminates redundancies.  I
know Unicode has a different normalize meaning, but for my purposes,
that has already been done.  Maybe I should call it standardization or
make up a new cromulent word.

By which I really mean I am confused by a lot of advice I have gotten
from USAians who get by with the good old 7 bit ASCII character set on
a daily basis, whether it be written in Unicode or not.

One of the puzzles to me is all the accented chars.  Umlauts, etc.  I
am not trying to convert names for permanent purposes but for internal
comparison.  In Germany is a district Busingen, with an umlauted
'u'.  Is it reasonable to consider it the same word whether with or
without the unlauted u?  French has the cedilla and acute and grave
accents.  Spanish has the tilde n.  Scandinavian languages (all?
some?) have the o with a slash.

Or put another way, I don't know much about German, French, Spanish,
etc keyboards.  Do your keyboards have any of the extra keys, all of
them?  Are German keyboards and French and Spanish keyboards as
restricted to their own languages as US keyboards are?  If you have to
hit two or three keys to keep the umlauts, accents, and tildes, do you
get lazy sometimes and type the base character by itself?  Is it even
considered the base character, or is it considered lazy and sloppy,
much as I get complaints about typing thru because through is too
much trouble?

I need something the equivalent of the C function strcasecmp() which
not only ignores case, but all other differences without distinction,
whatever they may be.  If leaving off umlauts horrifies academics and
purists but is what people do in the real world, I want to take that
into consideration, so that if one person uses the ummlaut and another
doesn't, it won't generated two separate entries.  But if leaving off
the umlaut or accent is a distinct place name, then I can't do that --
but if real world people do that and live with the confusion, then I
guess I have to make a different choice.

Yes, I am something of an ignorant American.  I know some Japanese,
French, and Spanish, but not the details of everyday usage.  I'd like
to learn.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Renat Golubchyk
Hi!

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:20:03 -0800
fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 In Germany is a district Busingen, with an umlauted 'u'.  Is it
 reasonable to consider it the same word whether with or without the
 unlauted u?

No. For many words it would be ok, but not for all. For example,
drucken means to print, drücken (with an umlaut) means to
press. In German you can exchange an umlaut with the combination base
letter + e, i.e. ü -- ue, ö -- oe, and ß -- ss. There are words
with the combination oe that is in that particular case does not mean
ö. So it's not straight forward, especially with names. Those may
have a rather odd spelling for historical reasons.

 Or put another way, I don't know much about German, French, Spanish,
 etc keyboards.  Do your keyboards have any of the extra keys, all of
 them?  Are German keyboards and French and Spanish keyboards as
 restricted to their own languages as US keyboards are?  If you have to
 hit two or three keys to keep the umlauts, accents, and tildes, do you
 get lazy sometimes and type the base character by itself?  Is it even
 considered the base character, or is it considered lazy and sloppy,
 much as I get complaints about typing thru because through is too
 much trouble?

German keyboards have keys for all umlauts and 'ß'. You can google for
pictures of different keyboard layouts.

 I need something the equivalent of the C function strcasecmp() which
 not only ignores case, but all other differences without distinction,
 whatever they may be.

I'd suggest you use a unicode library. BTW, what about cyrillic
letters or other alphabets? Those may have nothing to do with ASCII. Or
is your project restricted to latin letters?


Cheers,
Renat

-- 
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durch die sie entstanden sind.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread felix
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 08:50:08PM +0100, Renat Golubchyk wrote:

 I'd suggest you use a unicode library. BTW, what about cyrillic
 letters or other alphabets? Those may have nothing to do with ASCII. Or
 is your project restricted to latin letters?

The data is already in normalized Unicode.  My problem is eliminating
errors from near misses :-( Cyrillic doesn't look like the same
problem -- no accents that I can see.  Chinese, Japanese, etc, same as
far as I know.  Arabic has lots of tricks on combining letters and
leaving out vowels, so it is probably an entirely different problem.

One thing I did not make clear is that this is for place names only,
like cities and whatever the equivalent of a US state or Canadian
province is, such as Busingen.

So do people type in Busingen different ways depending on how they
feel, do some people always leave off the umlaut, do some always use
it?  My biggest annoyance is that a lot of the google results come
from Americans full of theory about languages they only know from the
W3C recommendations.  Maybe email or real documents follow proper
usage much more closely than addresses on a web form, but I don't care
about them.  Maybe web forms in Germany, where they want a district,
do as many web sites do in English and have a menu of possible
districts, in which case no one types in umlauts anyway :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:07:26 -0800
fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 So do people type in Busingen different ways depending on how they
 feel, do some people always leave off the umlaut, do some always use
 it?

If you want to leave of the umlaut you have to be absolutely sure that
there exists no other place with the spelling without umlaut. Otherwise
you may have collisions sometimes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Valve Steam on gentoo

2009-12-03 Thread Kirill Lipatov
The disabling of the in-game chat unfortunately doesn't help my problem

2009/12/3 Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com

 On 12/3/09, Kirill Lipatov kirilllipa...@gmail.com wrote:
  For some reason Steam fails to start any games on my gentoo box. I am
 using
  wine 1.1.32 with the engine itself and the games all downloaded to
 gentoo's
  partition (not the ntfs3g problem). Steam itself loads fine, but when I
  click launch the game nothing happens.
 
  This is very said because Steam is the only reason why I still have to
 deal
  with Windows :(
 
  Any ideas?

 You have probably already seen this bug and checked if it matches your
 problem:

 http://bugs.gentoo.org/230962

 What a lucky discovery the last commenter made there.

 --
 Arttu V.




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klipa...@ku.edu


[gentoo-user] Sound card is only usable by one application at a time

2009-12-03 Thread Yoav Luft
Hi,
On my dell Vostro 1520, with intel hda ICH9 82801I sound card
(xSTAC92HD71B3, according to /proc/asound/card0/codec), only one
application can access the sound card at a time. This probably means
that applications access the hardware, and not some software mixer. I
tried to follow information in the alsa wiki
(http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html#pcm_plugins_dmix)
for setting manually dmix, but couldn't configure anything working. I
could find any good documentation (and I don't have plenty of time to
dig in it, it's the middle of the semester). Does anyone can help on
the topic?



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 03 Dezember 2009, Renat Golubchyk wrote:
 Hi!
 
 On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:20:03 -0800
 
 fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
  In Germany is a district Busingen, with an umlauted 'u'.  Is it
  reasonable to consider it the same word whether with or without the
  unlauted u?
 
 No. For many words it would be ok, but not for all. For example,
 drucken means to print, drücken (with an umlaut) means to
 press. In German you can exchange an umlaut with the combination base
 letter + e, i.e. ü -- ue, ö -- oe, and ß -- ss. There are words
 with the combination oe that is in that particular case does not mean
 ö. So it's not straight forward, especially with names. Those may
 have a rather odd spelling for historical reasons.

and it is hilarious to see american media fuck that up almost every time ... 
;)



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 04 December 2009 00:07:33 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Donnerstag 03 Dezember 2009, Renat Golubchyk wrote:
  Hi!
 
  On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:20:03 -0800
 
  fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
   In Germany is a district Busingen, with an umlauted 'u'.  Is it
   reasonable to consider it the same word whether with or without the
   unlauted u?
 
  No. For many words it would be ok, but not for all. For example,
  drucken means to print, drücken (with an umlaut) means to
  press. In German you can exchange an umlaut with the combination base
  letter + e, i.e. ü -- ue, ö -- oe, and ß -- ss. There are words
  with the combination oe that is in that particular case does not mean
  ö. So it's not straight forward, especially with names. Those may
  have a rather odd spelling for historical reasons.
 
 and it is hilarious to see american media fuck that up almost every time
  ... ;)
 

What's even more funny is hearing news readers on the South Africa public 
broadcaster try to pronounce regular *English* words...

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless...

2009-12-03 Thread BRM
- Original Message 

From: Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org
  On 12/2/2009 9:17 PM, BRM wrote:
  I have wireless working (b43legacy driver for the Dell Wireless Broadcom) 
  through a static configuration in /etc/conf.d/net - basically:
  essid_wlan0=myWLAN
  key_MYWLAN=somekey
  config_MYWLAN=( dhcp )
  preferred_APS= ( myWLAN )
  I would like to use a tool like WPA Supplicant instead so I can have a more 
  dynamic configuration.
  I've tried to setup WPA supplicant but haven't been able to get it to work.
 Probably not what you wanted to hear, but I had the exact same problem with 
 the Dell bcm-based adapter in my Inspiron laptop.
 It would work fine for open wireless and WEP-secured wireless, but wouldn't 
 associated with a WPA-secured access point.
 Eventually I spent about $30 to purchase an iwl3945 replacement from Dell, 
 which worked fine, and never looked back.

Thanks for the heads up.
At this point, I'll be happy if I can just get WEP working using WPA 
Supplicant/WiCD/etc. instead of a root user centric configuration file.

Ben




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Francisco Ares
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Renat Golubchyk ragerm...@gmx.net wrote:

 On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:07:26 -0800
 fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
  So do people type in Busingen different ways depending on how they
  feel, do some people always leave off the umlaut, do some always use
  it?

 If you want to leave of the umlaut you have to be absolutely sure that
 there exists no other place with the spelling without umlaut. Otherwise
 you may have collisions sometimes.


What about a set of dictionaries? And also a library for mistyped word
search?

Francisco


[gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time

2009-12-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 12/03/2009 11:23 PM, Yoav Luft wrote:

Hi,
On my dell Vostro 1520, with intel hda ICH9 82801I sound card
(xSTAC92HD71B3, according to /proc/asound/card0/codec), only one
application can access the sound card at a time. This probably means
that applications access the hardware, and not some software mixer. I
tried to follow information in the alsa wiki
(http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html#pcm_plugins_dmix)
for setting manually dmix, but couldn't configure anything working. I
could find any good documentation (and I don't have plenty of time to
dig in it, it's the middle of the semester). Does anyone can help on
the topic?


I think all you need to do is to put the alsasound service in your 
default runlevel.


  rc-update add alsasound default

At least that's what I remember doing when I tried ALSA a few months 
ago.  You might need to reboot though so that the card is freed first.





Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Arttu V.
On 12/3/09, fe...@crowfix.com fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 I have a project which requires normalizing names, and by that, I mean
 converting to lower case etc, whatever eliminates redundancies.

I assume you have already removed the language problem from the
equation? I.e., the fact that København, Copenhague, Kööpenhamina and
Copenhagen all mean the same place, just in different European
languages (Danish, Spanish, Finnish and English, in that order).

If you have input in multiple languages then it is not just about
umlauts or no umlauts ...

-- 
Arttu V.



[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Acer Core2Duo only sees 3G of RAM

2009-12-03 Thread Mick
Please ignore previous message ... I should have gone to bed by now because 
evidently I am too tired to think clearly!  O_O

I will try to boot up with a 64bit OS next.

On Thursday 03 December 2009 22:14:36 Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I booted up an Acer Core2Duo (P7550) with 4G of RAM using a Knoppix DVD and
 only 3G of RAM is visible.  Why would that be so?  Both cores of the CPU
  are recognised, so I think that the kernel is SMP enable.  I attach the
  lspci output in case you see something that explains it.  Unfortunately,
  hwinfo fails with an io segmentation ...
 

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Acer Core2Duo only sees 3G of RAM

2009-12-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 04 December 2009 00:14:36 Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I booted up an Acer Core2Duo (P7550) with 4G of RAM using a Knoppix DVD and
 only 3G of RAM is visible.  Why would that be so?  Both cores of the CPU
  are recognised, so I think that the kernel is SMP enable.  I attach the
  lspci output in case you see something that explains it.  Unfortunately,
  hwinfo fails with an io segmentation ...
 

I bet you used a 32 bit Knoppix


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread felix
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 08:32:45PM -0200, Francisco Ares wrote:

 What about a set of dictionaries? And also a library for mistyped word
 search?

Way too much effort for this.  Nice idea, might even be fun, but it's
just trying to avoid the common things, and I mainly wondered about
how often people whose keyboards have accents etc skip them if they
have the chance and what the repercussions would be.

We have people already who enter Brooklyn for their city instead of
New York, which might even be technically correct, but it doesn't
match anything else and we don't correct it because it doesn't happen
often enough.  There may be people in Louisiana who use the original
French spelling for all I know; we don't handle that either.  Or ditto
for Spanish names in the southwest that might have a tilde.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread felix
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 12:38:34AM +0200, Arttu V. wrote:

 I assume you have already removed the language problem from the
 equation? I.e., the fact that K?benhavn, Copenhague, K??penhamina and
 Copenhagen all mean the same place, just in different European
 languages (Danish, Spanish, Finnish and English, in that order).

We're trying to go by the name in the native language, but that might
not be possible, in which case I guess we'll have to get all the
possible translations.  It certainly is messy.

 If you have input in multiple languages then it is not just about
 umlauts or no umlauts ...

I've certainly learned a bit of that ... so far we only have to deal
with country codes (no problem) and disticts (can't be t many, I
hope).

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[gentoo-user] KDE4 Device Manager Permissions

2009-12-03 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there!

When I plug in an USB stick (with a VFAT partition), the device manager 
plasmoid notifies me and allows to mount it. That's fine, but I would like 
the permissions to be different, so that another user is able to write to 
it. This user is using the same desktop, he is logged in via ssh -X in a 
konsole, then he starts dolphin.

Is this configurable? I looked for HAL stuff, probably this can be set in 
a .fdi file, but I did not find what to specify there.

This is not really important - I can let udev create a specific /dev entry 
for the stick, add it to fstab and mount it manually, with the umask set 
accordingly. But it would be nice if it could be done with KDE's builtin 
stuff. So if anyone knows a solution, I'd be happy to hear. If not, no 
problem.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] troubles with emerge --sync

2009-12-03 Thread Alexander Clark
Really late post on this, but an emphasis on march settings is  
warranted.


This will totally bungle all kinds of compiling.


Daid, thanks for your input. I keep an extra line of 'safe' cflags  
commented out, which saved the day in this case.


If it helps anyone, here's what the [continuing] problem was:

When I figured out that I was using the wrong march, I switched it  
out, but forgot to look over the cflags, which still contained -msse3.  
Hence some improvement but not a total fix. I was thinking of giving  
my safe cflags a go, when, looking at them and at my regular cflags, I  
realized that -msse3 didn't belong. Fixed it, emerge -uDNe world, and  
now emerge --sync works!


Based on this experience, I would submit that if you're running Gentoo  
and seeing SIGILL, double checking your march and your cflags would be  
a pretty good place to start.


Alexander Clark

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
look at my name, ok?

Just dropping the Umlaut is wrong. No if, but, maybe. It is wrong. Error. 
Mistake. Fail. If you can not enter ä, ö or ü, you must transform them to ae, 
oe or ue.



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 04 December 2009 02:03:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 look at my name, ok?
 
 Just dropping the Umlaut is wrong. No if, but, maybe. It is wrong. Error.
 Mistake. Fail. If you can not enter ä, ö or ü, you must transform them to
  ae, oe or ue.
 


Your name shows here in 7-bit ASCII:

 
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com

typo?


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long

2009-12-03 Thread felix
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 01:03:23AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 look at my name, ok?
 
 Just dropping the Umlaut is wrong. No if, but, maybe. It is wrong. Error. 
 Mistake. Fail. If you can not enter ?, ? or ?, you must transform them to ae, 
 oe or ue.

I'd like to find a program which would do that!  Seriously.  But
anyway, the purpose of this is not to transform names so our antique
ASCII-7 computers can store them, but to eliminate redundant records.
For instance, we get data from vendors for all cities and states,
geolocation data, which has its own redundancies, such as both FORT
WORTH and FT WORTH, or SAINT LOUIS and ST LOUIS.  But we have to
convert to upper case, get rid of punctuation, get rid of extra white
space, etc, and all that is independent of the locale.  I want to do
the same for unicode.  If enough Europeans are in the habit of taking
shortcuts and skipping umlauts and accents and cedilla and tildes,
then I'd like to standardize the data for lookup.  This has nothing to
do with converting people's names for storage.  We don't even store
the transformed place name.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Looong delays

2009-12-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 02 December 2009 15:10:30 Willie Wong wrote:

 It is somehow worrisome that background IO like writing to the History
 file can lock up the UI...)

Indeed. That does smell unwholesome.

-- 
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Peter



[gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time

2009-12-03 Thread walt

On 12/03/2009 01:23 PM, Yoav Luft wrote:

Hi,
On my dell Vostro 1520, with intel hda ICH9 82801I sound card
(xSTAC92HD71B3, according to /proc/asound/card0/codec), only one
application can access the sound card at a time...


I hope Nikos's suggestion will help you, but just in case it doesn't:

Most people don't have any need for more than one application to use
the sound card at the same time.  Do you have a special purpose in
mind, such as mixing multiple sound tracks, professional-quality
sound editing, film editing with special sound effects, or something
similar?

If you do, then you will be one of the very few people who actually
needs to use pulseaudio, because it will allow multiple applications
to use one sound card at the same time.  That is the purpose of
pulseaudio.  But, as I said, very few people really need it.

Can you explain more about what you are trying to do?




[gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time

2009-12-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 12/04/2009 03:12 AM, walt wrote:

Most people don't have any need for more than one application to use
the sound card at the same time.


I was under the impression that it's quite the opposite.  For example I 
would still like to hear my MSN messenger go *ping* when someone talks 
to me while I'm listening to some mp3 and/or am playing a game.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time

2009-12-03 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:12 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 12/03/2009 01:23 PM, Yoav Luft wrote:

 Hi,
 On my dell Vostro 1520, with intel hda ICH9 82801I sound card
 (xSTAC92HD71B3, according to /proc/asound/card0/codec), only one
 application can access the sound card at a time...

 I hope Nikos's suggestion will help you, but just in case it doesn't:

 Most people don't have any need for more than one application to use
 the sound card at the same time.  Do you have a special purpose in
 mind, such as mixing multiple sound tracks, professional-quality
 sound editing, film editing with special sound effects, or something
 similar?

 If you do, then you will be one of the very few people who actually
 needs to use pulseaudio, because it will allow multiple applications
 to use one sound card at the same time.  That is the purpose of
 pulseaudio.  But, as I said, very few people really need it.

 Can you explain more about what you are trying to do?

I'm not the OP, but it's been my experience that, when things aren't
configured to handle multiple processes using audio, you can't even
pause a movie in, say, mplayer to check out the youtube video a friend
just pointed you towards... which nowadays, is far from an uncommon
thing for a person to expect their computer to handle.

Lately, I've had zero issues with alsa pretty much configuring itself
properly, given I'm using the in kernel alsa drivers for my systems...
and it hasn't required any manual configuration of dmix or similar to
function properly. Last time I used a separate sound daemon (aside
from a short stent with Ubuntu on my netbook that, I think, had me
using pulseaudio), I was running esound to manage audio from a
headless box over my network... and ESD was playing nicely with other
straight alsa apps on the same box.

As a bit of a tip to the OP, since I'm going on about it all working,
while for them it isn't... 1) make sure you're using the alsa drivers
for your card and not oss (checking lspci -k) and 2) enable oss
emulation in the kernel (makes even OLD oss based software work
without much argument, in my experience).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time

2009-12-03 Thread Dale

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 12/04/2009 03:12 AM, walt wrote:

Most people don't have any need for more than one application to use
the sound card at the same time.


I was under the impression that it's quite the opposite.  For example 
I would still like to hear my MSN messenger go *ping* when someone 
talks to me while I'm listening to some mp3 and/or am playing a game.




I ran into a similar problem a good while back where only one sound 
would play at a time, it was annoying as heck.  If I changed desktops, 
was playing a CD or even just left a tab open with some sound thingy 
playing, I couldn't hear anything else.  I couldn't hear Kopete if 
someone was trying to get me on messenger, couldn't hear the little bell 
when I got a new email or anything.


To say that a person only needs to hear one sound at a time is like 
telling someone to close one eye. 


Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Acer Core2Duo only sees 3G of RAM

2009-12-03 Thread Mick
On Thursday 03 December 2009 22:45:29 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Friday 04 December 2009 00:14:36 Mick wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I booted up an Acer Core2Duo (P7550) with 4G of RAM using a Knoppix DVD
  and only 3G of RAM is visible.  Why would that be so?  Both cores of the
  CPU are recognised, so I think that the kernel is SMP enable.  I attach
  the lspci output in case you see something that explains it. 
  Unfortunately, hwinfo fails with an io segmentation ...
 
 I bet you used a 32 bit Knoppix

Yep!  It's surprising how after a good night's sleep the most complex problems 
suddenly solve themselves ... ha, ha!  :-))
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Acer Core2Duo only sees 3G of RAM

2009-12-03 Thread Xavier Parizet
Hi,

You don't need to go to bed :) Just setup your kernel to use High-Memory:
cd /usr/src/linux; make menuconfig; then item:
  Processor type and features - High Memory Support - 4GB
And it's done, but keep in mind that userspace processes will still be limited
to 3GB of memory use (AFAIK) (if someone would like to correct me, he is 
welcome).

If you want your processes to use more than 3GB of memory, then yes, boot up
with a 64bit OS (again correct me if i'm wrong) ;)

HTH.

Mick a écrit :
 Please ignore previous message ... I should have gone to bed by now because 
 evidently I am too tired to think clearly!  O_O
 
 I will try to boot up with a 64bit OS next.
 
 On Thursday 03 December 2009 22:14:36 Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 I booted up an Acer Core2Duo (P7550) with 4G of RAM using a Knoppix DVD and
 only 3G of RAM is visible.  Why would that be so?  Both cores of the CPU
  are recognised, so I think that the kernel is SMP enable.  I attach the
  lspci output in case you see something that explains it.  Unfortunately,
  hwinfo fails with an io segmentation ...

 


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