Re: [gentoo-user] Freeze up during X session

2010-01-15 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 14 Jan, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I'm experiencing a problem where during an X session the machine
 inexplicably freezes up... networking along with mouse keyboard etc.
 No access is then possible via ssh or any other way other than a hard
 reboot. 
 
 I've attempted to debug the problem by first searching the logs.  But
 not finding anything I recognize as a clue.
 
 I've  inserted a line like this in /etc/syslog.conf
 cat /etc/syslog.conf 
  [...]
  *.* -/var/log/debug.log
  [...]
 
 and then created a tiny script called by cron every 5 minutes that
 simply pinged an external host and reported the results by way of
 piping to `logger', guaranteeing it would appear in the system logs .
 
 Then after a freeze up and reboot, search the logs for the most recent
 successful ping and see what happened after that.  (The freeze up freezes
 networking too so the ping would then fail).  And Hopefully I'd see
 something of note between the last successful ping and the reboot.
 
 But I see absolutely nothing of note.
 
 The freeze does not appear to obey any particular time frame after a
 boot, only that sooner or later a freeze up will occur.
 
 Apparently there is nothing happening that merits a log entry. 
 
 Its been going on for a goodly while and I've just been rebooting as
 needed ... I haven't been really active on the machine for a while so
 it was easy to get along with, but now I need to do more work and so
 the problem is a major stumbling block.
 

A few months, ago, I had similar symptoms.
It turned out to be a defective AMD Phenom CPU
(a very tricky error since all hardware tests passed)
I guess it's a cache coherence problem (the Phenom has 4 cores).
Luckily it was quite a new machine so my dealer
replaced the CPU. The problem didn't occur ever since.

While searching the net for a reason of failure I came accross
messages about failing graphics chips / or graphics drivers.
Perhaps you try an open source driver for your graphics card
and see if the problem still occurs.

(Before I suspected the CPU, I have tortured memory and I have
even replaced the motherboard)

To exclude a software problem, try booting from a 
SystemRescue-CD
http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

It's Gentoo based and sports an X-Server.

That are the problems that makes one crazy!

Helmut.


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D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] kde wont log in user

2010-01-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:38:27 + (UTC), James wrote:

 Well I just updated a laptop that had not been updated for
 8 months.
 
 It's all fine, except I cannot log in via the kde menu

You need to give a better description. By the KDE menu, do you mean the
kdm login screen? What happens when you try to log in, does it reject
your username/password, does it try to open a KDE desktop and then fall
back to kdm or does kdm not open a login screen in the first place? I
cannot login tells us nothing.

Before you reply, take a look for anything useful in /var/log/kdm.log.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT crypto] How to encrypt a directory without root?

2010-01-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:19:56 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

  I wasn't thinking that at all. You use sshfs to mount the remote
  directory locally, then mount that with encfs. All the remote host
  needs is ssh.  
 
 I'm not sure what is going wrong here, if neither of us is listening
 to the other or what... but I've stressed that I wanted a solution for
 when I could not access my home machine Does your solution involve
 that?

No, I missed that part. Do you means you cannot access the machine or you
cannot load your normal OS because it is broken? In the latter case, a
live C/USB distro will help. If you mean no access to the computer at all
and you're forced to use whatever is available, you have something of a
problem as you can never know what will be available.

I used the method I mentioned, but I have more than one computer, so if
one breaks I can use the other to get at the backups.


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Problems playing back DVD

2010-01-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
ubiquitous1980 nixuser1...@gmail.com wrote:

  http://tobias.rautenkranz.ch/libdvdread_ifo.html.en
 
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=460400
 
  Might help to upgrade to a newer version of libdvdread (you don't say
  which version you have installed)?
 
 I am wondering if you have tried to dd it for yourself rather than using
 front ends?

If you have a master DVD without CSS, you just may use the mounted filesystem 
on the medium as master for mkisofs. Just make sure that all filenames
use uppercase letters.

If you like to write a conformant video DVD, you need to use mkisofs -dvd-video
and if mkisofs cannot understand the IFO file, it cannot place the VOB files
at the right places that would allow a standalone player to play the disk.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Problems playing back DVD

2010-01-15 Thread John H. Moe
pk wrote:
 John H. Moe wrote:

   
 play or rip it on my computer.  SMplayer, VLC, Xine, K3B, DVD::Rip and
 AcidRip all seem to have the same basic problem:

 libdvdread: Can't seek to block 3362902
 libdvdread: Invalid IFO for title 18 (VTS_18_0.IFO).
 

 Not sure if this is the solution but judging from what you write it
 seems likely:
 http://tobias.rautenkranz.ch/libdvdread_ifo.html.en

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=460400

 Might help to upgrade to a newer version of libdvdread (you don't say
 which version you have installed)?

 Best regards

 Peter K
   
Thanks for the reply!  Sorry, I didn't think to put versions in.  I'm
currently using 0.97, the latest stable ebuild on x86.  However, the
link you pointed me to seems to say if I go up to 4.13, I shouldn't have
that problem.  Portage, conveniently, has unstable builds for 4.13. 
I'll give it a go and report back.

John Moe



Re: [gentoo-user] kde wont log in user

2010-01-15 Thread Neil Walker
James wrote:
 Well I just updated a laptop that had not been updated for
 8 months.

 It's all fine, except I cannot log in via the kde menu


 ssh works fine and all packages are current.


 Any suggestions on how to get this fixed?
   

Sorry, my psychic powers are not functioning today. You give nothing
to go on whatsoever. ;)

A quick stab in the dark - are you trying to log in as root? KDE will
not allow that (by default) for obvious security reasons.


Be lucky,

Neil
http://www.neiljw.com





Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Problems playing back DVD

2010-01-15 Thread John H. Moe
John H. Moe wrote:
 pk wrote:
   
 John H. Moe wrote:

   
 
 play or rip it on my computer.  SMplayer, VLC, Xine, K3B, DVD::Rip and
 AcidRip all seem to have the same basic problem:

 libdvdread: Can't seek to block 3362902
 libdvdread: Invalid IFO for title 18 (VTS_18_0.IFO).
 
   
 Not sure if this is the solution but judging from what you write it
 seems likely:
 http://tobias.rautenkranz.ch/libdvdread_ifo.html.en

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=460400

 Might help to upgrade to a newer version of libdvdread (you don't say
 which version you have installed)?

 Best regards

 Peter K
   
 
 Thanks for the reply!  Sorry, I didn't think to put versions in.  I'm
 currently using 0.97, the latest stable ebuild on x86.  However, the
 link you pointed me to seems to say if I go up to 4.13, I shouldn't have
 that problem.  Portage, conveniently, has unstable builds for 4.13. 
 I'll give it a go and report back.

 John Moe
   

Damn, didn't work.  I still get the same error from Xine, but now VLC
will play the first track.  However, if I try to view the 2nd through
the 8th track, they all seem to be the same track.  Also, it seems to
think there's 99 tracks on the DVD.  And if I choose something higher up
like track 75, it segfaults and I get what's in the attached log.

I've included logs of all output from Xine, VLC and K3B in case
something in there helps.

Any other ideas?  Should I just pick one player, and follow up on their
mailing list?  I've only asked here because it doesn't seem to be
specific to any one player, and am looking for some more general help. 
Or is this even fixable?  I assume this all has something to do with
copy protection, and that they've come up with a new way of doing it
that the authors of the apps/libs haven't figured out yet, and maybe I
just need to wait?

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.  Thanks.

John Moe
j...@jhb5970 ~ $ k3b
K3bQProcess::QProcess(0x0)
K3bQProcess::QProcess(0x0)
j...@jhb5970 ~ $ libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdread: Can't seek to block 2389220
libdvdread: Can't seek to block 2389220
libdvdread: Invalid IFO for title 14 (VTS_14_0.IFO).

j...@jhb5970 ~ $ VLC media player 1.0.4 Goldeneye
[0x9d268a8] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to 
use vlc without interface.
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdnav: DVD Title: SC8-0A-AT1_DES
libdvdnav: DVD Serial Number: UNDEFINED
libdvdnav: DVD Title (Alternative): 
libdvdnav: Unable to find map file '/home/jmoe/.dvdnav/SC8-0A-AT1_DES.map'
libdvdnav: DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00f5. Regions: 2 4

libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys
libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient

libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x02d0
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x0408
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x040f
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB at 0x0408
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x040f
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_0.VOB at 0x0408
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x040f
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_0.VOB at 0x0007a103
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_04_1.VOB at 0x0007a10a
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_0.VOB at 0x0007a103
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_05_1.VOB at 0x0007a10a
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_0.VOB at 0x0007a103
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_06_1.VOB at 0x0007a10a
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_0.VOB at 0x000ed583
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_07_1.VOB at 0x000ed58a
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_08_0.VOB at 0x000ed583
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_08_1.VOB at 0x000ed58a
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_09_0.VOB at 0x000ed583
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_09_1.VOB at 0x000ed58a
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_10_0.VOB at 0x00160ed4
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_10_1.VOB at 0x00160edb
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_11_0.VOB at 0x00160ed4
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_11_1.VOB at 0x00160edb
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_12_0.VOB at 0x001d4a71
libdvdread: Elapsed time 0
libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_12_1.VOB at 0x001d4a78

Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?

2010-01-15 Thread Alex Schuster
Some time ago, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 On Wednesday 11 November 2009 17:21:26 Alex Schuster wrote:

  I wonder if it's worth the trouble. I read here that running a full
  ~x86 system would probably be easier. And I'd like to try, but while
  going from x86 to ~x86 is easy, the other way is quite hard, isn't
  it? If possible at all.
 
 yes, it is easier to just go ~x86. Yes, it is very very very hard to go
 back - easier to reinstall

I hope I will not have to do so :)  But I have a backup, just in case.
BTW, why would the downgrade be so painful? Is this because of the 
impossible glibc downgrade, or are there even more problems?


  BTW, when I test this and enable ~x86 in make.conf, I first need to
  set the extras use flag for udev, and then I get these blockers. So I
  have to go to openrc, okay. And again trouble with my ati drivers.
  But maybe this will be over once I have completed the switch.
 
 There are several documents you should read first at gentoo.org, all
 related to upgrades. They are in the docs section, the page with the
 big long list:
 
 - the switch to openrc

Done. Did not yet reboot, though :)

 - the most recent X.org upgrade

Not done, that does not work with ati-drivers.

 - installing KDE4

Already have that.

 - the horrendous amoun of work to get x and hal working if it doesn't
   work out the box

The horror but  think not much will change here.

 Deal with these blocks individually for best results:
  [blocks B ]  sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r11
  (sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86- r11 is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.5.2-r2)
 
 emerge -av1 openrc
 
 read the elog message and do *exactly* what it says

I think I was just able to update baselayout. Was I really liked was that 
I did not have so much to do, things were done automatically, like 
migrating new services into the boot runlevel. Nice work!

  [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.0 (=x11-base/xorg-
  server-1.7.0 is blocking x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.9-r2,
  x11-drivers/ati- drivers-9.10)
 
 unmerge ati-drivers, make sure VIDEO_CARDS is correct in make.conf and
 merge X then remerge ALL your drivers. The elog tells you how to proceed

Um, no. ati-drivers is not compatible with xorg-server-1.7, and after I 
was not able to get the radeon driver to work (I tried... oh how I tried), 
I keep my old X.org. I put this into package.mask (got most of it from bug 
#290739 [1]), maybe I could trim it some more:

=x11-base/xorg-server-1.7
#=x11-proto/xcmiscproto-1.2.0
#=x11-proto/bigreqsproto-1.1.0
#=x11-proto/xf86driproto-2.1.0
#=x11-proto/xf86bigfontproto-1.2.0
=x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7
=x11-proto/xextproto-7.1.1
=x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1
=x11-proto/inputproto-2.0
=x11-libs/libX11-1.3.2
=x11-libs/libXext-1.1.1
=x11-libs/libXi-1.3
=x11-apps/xinput-1.5.0
=x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3
=x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.1.0
=x11-proto/recordproto-1.14
=x11-libs/libXtst-1.1.0
=x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0
=x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.2.0
=x11-proto/xineramaproto-1.2
=x11-libs/libXinerama-1.1
=x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1
=x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.1.1

=media-libs/mesa-7.6

Looks ugly, but as long as my package.mask will be smaller than my current 
package.keywords...

 emerge -avuND world

I had to remove samba and poppler to resolve blockers, but I'm emerging 
@system now. Hooray!


Now I have a final question (for the moment). What is this ~x86 called? 
Writing is easy, 4 characters, but how is this pronounced? Tilde-ex-
eightysix / tilde-arch? Or is it just testing? The problem came up when I 
was at the Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin and talked to the guys 
at the Gentoo desk.

Oh, dev-libs/klibc-1.5.15-r1 just failed to build. #285355 [2] suggests to 
disable distcc, and yes, this does the trick. Strange, but, whatever. 107 
packages to go now.

Wonko

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/290739
[2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285355



Re: [gentoo-user] kde wont log in user

2010-01-15 Thread Alex Schuster
Neil Bothwick writes:

 On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:38:27 + (UTC), James wrote:
  Well I just updated a laptop that had not been updated for
  8 months.
 
  It's all fine, except I cannot log in via the kde menu
 
 You need to give a better description. By the KDE menu, do you mean the
 kdm login screen? What happens when you try to log in, does it reject
 your username/password, does it try to open a KDE desktop and then fall
 back to kdm or does kdm not open a login screen in the first place? I
 cannot login tells us nothing.

I also had a I cannot login error with kdm-4.x, so I am still using 
kdm-3.5 as display manager.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Problems playing back DVD

2010-01-15 Thread pk
John H. Moe wrote:

 Any help or ideas would be appreciated.  Thanks.

libdvdread is part of the mplayer project so I would try mplayer mail
list. Other than that you could try what Ubiquitous1980 or Joerg
suggests. Sorry, I don't have any other ideas, but I think mplayer mail
list is the safest bet; if there's some new variant of the dvd format
then it might even help others...

Best regards

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?

2010-01-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 January 2010 15:04:12 Alex Schuster wrote:
 Some time ago, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Wednesday 11 November 2009 17:21:26 Alex Schuster wrote:
   I wonder if it's worth the trouble. I read here that running a full
   ~x86 system would probably be easier. And I'd like to try, but while
   going from x86 to ~x86 is easy, the other way is quite hard, isn't
   it? If possible at all.
 
  yes, it is easier to just go ~x86. Yes, it is very very very hard to go
  back - easier to reinstall
 
 I hope I will not have to do so :)  But I have a backup, just in case.
 BTW, why would the downgrade be so painful? Is this because of the
 impossible glibc downgrade, or are there even more problems?

glibc is the one thing that makes it almost impossible. Everything else just 
makes it very very hard.

[snip]

 Now I have a final question (for the moment). What is this ~x86 called?
 Writing is easy, 4 characters, but how is this pronounced? Tilde-ex-
 eightysix / tilde-arch? Or is it just testing? The problem came up when I
 was at the Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin and talked to the guys
 at the Gentoo desk.

any of those will do. Even unstable arch.

Anyone with more than a few days experience with gentoo will know what you are 
talking about.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Re: kde wont log in user

2010-01-15 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes:

 
 On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:38:27 + (UTC), James wrote:
 
  Well I just updated a laptop that had not been updated for
  8 months.
  
  It's all fine, except I cannot log in via the kde menu
 
 You need to give a better description. By the KDE menu, do you mean the
 kdm login screen? What happens when you try to log in, does it reject
 your username/password, does it try to open a KDE desktop and then fall
 back to kdm or does kdm not open a login screen in the first place? I
 cannot login tells us nothing.]

Ok, I do not know what it is called. I'm running kde-meta 4.3.3
It's the kde screen where you put your login and passwd.
It flashes for a second or 2, like the passwd is accepted, but
kde cannot start. 


If I do not auto start kdm via rc-update, then I can log in as a user
and X starts (twm?).

I can also ssh into the system so the user passwd is ok.


 Before you reply, take a look for anything useful in /var/log/kdm.log.


Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
error setting MTRR (base = 0xe000, size = 0x0100, type = 1) Invalid
argument (22)
(EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols.
(EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
 Warning:  Multiple names for keycode 211
   Using I211, ignoring AB11
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
 Warning:  Multiple names for keycode 211
   Using I211, ignoring AB11
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
 Warning:  Multiple names for keycode 211
   Using I211, ignoring AB11
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server


Maybe a keyboard error? I have ran this several times:
emerge -D1 $(qlist -I -C x11-drivers)

No xorg.conf file in use:
x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4-r1
x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.5-r1
ati-driver-9.11
linux-2.6.31-gentoo-r5


Ideas?

James






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: file system failure after emerge -DuN @system

2010-01-15 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:10 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/14/2010 01:33 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Hi,
    An old machine hadn't been turned on in a few months. I decided I
 try getting it up to date so I went through an emerge cycle to see if
 I could get things going. It was a little picky about upgrading udev
 but at the time I thought it had gone OK, but possibly not. emerge
 -DuN @system completed without errors, running it again said there was
 nothing to update, python-updater ran fine, as did revdep-rebuild.
 However when I rebooted I see messages when starting udev:

 inotify_init failed: fnction not implemented...

 inotify_init is provided by glibc, so that seems to be important. That
 machine seems to have some mismatched components, but which ones?

 It's important that glibc be compiled with the kernel headers that are
 actually installed on your machine, so the order of package upgrading
 does matter, at least when system libs like glibc are involved.

 E.g. if glibc was updated *before* the kernel-headers package then you
 might expect such problems.  Of course, I have no idea if that's what
 happened to you.

 On my x86 I have linux-headers-2.6.27-r2 and glibc-2.10.1-r1. I see
 that all of my linux-headers files are dated 2009-08-24, and glibc
 was updated just this week.  You may want to check to see which of
 those packages was installed earlier.

 Does the machine run well enough that you can reinstall both glibc
 and udev again?

Not right now. After the boot complains that the super block isn't
right the disk is getting mounted read only. I cannot even edit a file
with vi.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: file system failure after emerge -DuN @system

2010-01-15 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 15 Jan, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:10 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/14/2010 01:33 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Hi,
    An old machine hadn't been turned on in a few months. I decided I
 try getting it up to date so I went through an emerge cycle to see if
 I could get things going. It was a little picky about upgrading udev
 but at the time I thought it had gone OK, but possibly not. emerge
 -DuN @system completed without errors, running it again said there was
 nothing to update, python-updater ran fine, as did revdep-rebuild.
 However when I rebooted I see messages when starting udev:

 inotify_init failed: fnction not implemented...

 inotify_init is provided by glibc, so that seems to be important. That
 machine seems to have some mismatched components, but which ones?

 It's important that glibc be compiled with the kernel headers that are
 actually installed on your machine, so the order of package upgrading
 does matter, at least when system libs like glibc are involved.

 E.g. if glibc was updated *before* the kernel-headers package then you
 might expect such problems.  Of course, I have no idea if that's what
 happened to you.

 On my x86 I have linux-headers-2.6.27-r2 and glibc-2.10.1-r1. I see
 that all of my linux-headers files are dated 2009-08-24, and glibc
 was updated just this week.  You may want to check to see which of
 those packages was installed earlier.

 Does the machine run well enough that you can reinstall both glibc
 and udev again?
 
 Not right now. After the boot complains that the super block isn't
 right the disk is getting mounted read only. I cannot even edit a file
 with vi.

Try booting by using a rescue CD (www.sysresccd.org)
fsck your root disk
chroot to your root disk
then try to repair your system (e.g. building/installing
a new kernel)

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



[gentoo-user] How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-15 Thread Jarry

Hi, I'm facing this problem:

I want to exchange hard-drive in my computer for other, bigger
one. I do not want to add new hard-drive somewhere on mount-point
permanently, I just want to copy everything from the old drive
to the new one and then get rid of the old one. And of course,
I'd like to use my computer as before. What is the best (maybe
I should ask for safest) way to acomplish this?

First I thought about cp -a. But I'm not sure which directories
I should skip (/proc, maybe some other like /dev?). And I do not
know how cp handles links (if I first copy link and later target,
where is the link pointing? to the original file or its copy?).

Maybe dump/restore is better solution? Or something else?

Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-15 Thread Hazen Valliant-Saunders
Tar is your friend and ally.

1. install and Mount the disk to a mount point.
2. Use tar in for it's intended purpose
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
3. remove old drive,  configure the new one as your primary.
4. get a drink.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I'm facing this problem:

 I want to exchange hard-drive in my computer for other, bigger
 one. I do not want to add new hard-drive somewhere on mount-point
 permanently, I just want to copy everything from the old drive
 to the new one and then get rid of the old one. And of course,
 I'd like to use my computer as before. What is the best (maybe
 I should ask for safest) way to acomplish this?

 First I thought about cp -a. But I'm not sure which directories
 I should skip (/proc, maybe some other like /dev?). And I do not
 know how cp handles links (if I first copy link and later target,
 where is the link pointing? to the original file or its copy?).

 Maybe dump/restore is better solution? Or something else?

 Jarry

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IT/IS Consultant
(613) 355-5977


[gentoo-user] Re: Freeze up during X session

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de writes:

 To exclude a software problem, try booting from a 
 SystemRescue-CD
 http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page

 It's Gentoo based and sports an X-Server.

Thanks for the recue disk tip.

 That are the problems that makes one crazy!

Well put... hehe.

But I chickened out and took the path of least resistance.  I'm in the
middle of an install from scratch right now.  But if its hardware as
yours was... that won't help either.   

My hardware is not amd so keeping my fingers crossed.




Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-15 Thread Hazen Valliant-Saunders
remember to use --exclude to exclude your new drive's mounted point. \

and to use a pipe
so your command would look like:

r...@yoursystem #cd /
r...@yoursystem #tar -cvpzf - -–exclude=/- --exclude=/mnt/newdrive | cd
/mnt/newdrive (tar -xvpf -)

If all else fails!
# man tar

Regards,
Hazen.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Hazen Valliant-Saunders haze...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Tar is your friend and ally.

 1. install and Mount the disk to a mount point.
 2. Use tar in for it's intended purpose
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
 3. remove old drive,  configure the new one as your primary.
 4. get a drink.

 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, I'm facing this problem:

 I want to exchange hard-drive in my computer for other, bigger
 one. I do not want to add new hard-drive somewhere on mount-point
 permanently, I just want to copy everything from the old drive
 to the new one and then get rid of the old one. And of course,
 I'd like to use my computer as before. What is the best (maybe
 I should ask for safest) way to acomplish this?

 First I thought about cp -a. But I'm not sure which directories
 I should skip (/proc, maybe some other like /dev?). And I do not
 know how cp handles links (if I first copy link and later target,
 where is the link pointing? to the original file or its copy?).

 Maybe dump/restore is better solution? Or something else?

 Jarry

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 Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.




 --
 Hazen Valliant-Saunders
 IT/IS Consultant
 (613) 355-5977




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IT/IS Consultant
(613) 355-5977


[gentoo-user] What xorg pkgs needed for X to work

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of
anything better.

I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall

So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when
I test what all gets installed with:

  emerge -vp xfce4-meta

I notice that xorg-x11 is not amongst the... dependencies. 

xorg-server is absent as well, but I seem to recall a more basic xorg
pkgs being involved.  Maybe something like xorg-base... or whatever.

Apparently something has happened with naming of pkgs or something,
that I haven't kept up with.

But can a user really get use out of xfce4-meta with no xorg-server?

Just so you know its not already installed, heres a grep of all
installed pkgs:

  qlop --list|grep xorg
  Fri Jan 15 11:02:43 2010  x11-misc/xorg-cf-files-1.0.3

- -  -= - - -
 
I've included the dependencies in case anyone is interested...
Should there be something more from xorg?

emerge -vp xfce4-meta 

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies   ... done!
[ebuild  N] app-text/libpaper-1.1.23  343 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/eject-2.1.5-r2  USE=nls 121 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-python/setuptools-0.6.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/dmidecode-2.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-text/iso-codes-3.11.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/glib-2.22.3  USE=-debug -doc -fam -hardened 
(-selinux) -xattr 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXext-1.1.1  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/freetype-2.3.11  USE=X -bindist -debug -doc 
-fontforge -utils 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.5  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/dbus-1.3.0-r1  USE=X -debug -doc (-selinux) -test 0 
kB
[ebuild U ] app-admin/eselect-1.2.9 [1.2.3] USE=-bash-completion -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgamin-0.1.10-r2  USE=python -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libxkbfile-1.0.6  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/xfce4-icon-theme-4.4.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/xcb-util-0.3.6  USE=-debug -test 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/appres-1.0.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/netpbm-10.48.00-r1  USE=X jpeg png tiff zlib -jbig 
-jpeg2k -rle -svga -xml 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-proto/recordproto-1.14  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/xprop-1.1.0  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.22  USE=python -alisp -debug -doc 
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file 
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug 
rate route share shm softvol 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/xbitmaps-1.1.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/giflib-4.1.6-r1  USE=X -rle 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/imake-1.0.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/gccmakedep-1.0.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-python/numpy-1.4.0  USE=-doc -lapack -test 0 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/usbutils-0.86-r1  USE=zlib -network-cron 0 kB
[ebuild  N] virtual/eject-0  0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/libexif-0.6.19  USE=nls -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-proto/resourceproto-1.1.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libfontenc-1.0.5  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/iceauth-1.0.3  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.7.1  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.82  USE=-bash-completion -debug -doc 
-test 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXmu-1.0.5  USE=-debug -ipv6 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/startup-notification-0.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXfixes-4.0.4  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXrandr-1.3.0  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/atk-1.28.0  USE=-debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXi-1.3  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.70  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXpm-3.5.8  USE=nls -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-python/pygobject-2.20.0  USE=-debug -doc -examples -libffi 
-test 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.7  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.1  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXxf86misc-1.0.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.1.0  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-admin/eselect-emacs-1.13  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXp-1.0.0  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.2  USE=-debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXfontcache-1.0.5  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-perl/glib-perl-1.222  0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-admin/gam-server-0.1.10  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXres-1.0.4  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] xfce-base/xfconf-4.7.0  USE=perl -debug -profile 461 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXcursor-1.1.10  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXdamage-1.1.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXcomposite-0.4.1  USE=-debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/xrdb-1.0.6  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/xwininfo-1.0.5  

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-15 Thread Dale

Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:

Tar is your friend and ally.

1. install and Mount the disk to a mount point.
2. Use tar in for it's intended purpose
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
3. remove old drive,  configure the new one as your primary.
4. get a drink.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com 
mailto:mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi, I'm facing this problem:

I want to exchange hard-drive in my computer for other, bigger
one. I do not want to add new hard-drive somewhere on mount-point
permanently, I just want to copy everything from the old drive
to the new one and then get rid of the old one. And of course,
I'd like to use my computer as before. What is the best (maybe
I should ask for safest) way to acomplish this?

First I thought about cp -a. But I'm not sure which directories
I should skip (/proc, maybe some other like /dev?). And I do not
know how cp handles links (if I first copy link and later target,
where is the link pointing? to the original file or its copy?).

Maybe dump/restore is better solution? Or something else?

Jarry

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I have done this several times and only used cp -a.  I just skipped 
/dev, /proc, /tmp and other none needed ones.  Don't forget to copy 
console and null in /dev tho.


Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: file system failure after emerge -DuN @system

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de writes:

 Does the machine run well enough that you can reinstall both glibc
 and udev again?
 
 Not right now. After the boot complains that the super block isn't
 right the disk is getting mounted read only. I cannot even edit a file
 with vi.

 Try booting by using a rescue CD (www.sysresccd.org)
 fsck your root disk
 chroot to your root disk
 then try to repair your system (e.g. building/installing
 a new kernel)


Something similar has happened here in the past, it was related to
fsck being called inappropriately.  

At least a few times I was able to remount things after the initial
boot ended up with read only filesystem using the command:

`mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda_whatever /'

Or maybe just:

`mount -o remount,rw /'
  

To remount in place

After boot came up `read only' it worked apparently since the timing
wasn't a factor then.

But you might try that command first to see if you can do repairs that way.




Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-15 Thread Hazen Valliant-Saunders
cp -a works, i just like pipes.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hazen Valliant-Saunders wrote:

 Tar is your friend and ally.

 1. install and Mount the disk to a mount point.
 2. Use tar in for it's intended purpose
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
 3. remove old drive,  configure the new one as your primary.
 4. get a drink.

 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com mailto:
 mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, I'm facing this problem:

I want to exchange hard-drive in my computer for other, bigger
one. I do not want to add new hard-drive somewhere on mount-point
permanently, I just want to copy everything from the old drive
to the new one and then get rid of the old one. And of course,
I'd like to use my computer as before. What is the best (maybe
I should ask for safest) way to acomplish this?

First I thought about cp -a. But I'm not sure which directories
I should skip (/proc, maybe some other like /dev?). And I do not
know how cp handles links (if I first copy link and later target,
where is the link pointing? to the original file or its copy?).

Maybe dump/restore is better solution? Or something else?

Jarry

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 I have done this several times and only used cp -a.  I just skipped /dev,
 /proc, /tmp and other none needed ones.  Don't forget to copy console and
 null in /dev tho.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)




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IT/IS Consultant
(613) 355-5977


[gentoo-user] Re: How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-15 Thread Remy Blank
Jarry wrote:
 Maybe dump/restore is better solution? Or something else?

Boot a live CD, mount a source partition to /mnt/src, a destination
partition to /mnt/dst (with the right options, e.g. acl and
user_xattr if you use them), then:

  rsync -avHAX /mnt/src/ /mnt/dst

(The slash after src is intentional.)

Repeat with all partitions. Then install GRUB to the MBR of the new disk.

-- Remy



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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-15 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
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Em 15-01-2010 15:33, Jarry escreveu:
 Hi, I'm facing this problem:

 I want to exchange hard-drive in my computer for other, bigger
 one. I do not want to add new hard-drive somewhere on mount-point
 permanently, I just want to copy everything from the old drive
 to the new one and then get rid of the old one. And of course,
 I'd like to use my computer as before. What is the best (maybe
 I should ask for safest) way to acomplish this?

 First I thought about cp -a. But I'm not sure which directories
 I should skip (/proc, maybe some other like /dev?). And I do not
 know how cp handles links (if I first copy link and later target,
 where is the link pointing? to the original file or its copy?).

 Maybe dump/restore is better solution? Or something else?

 Jarry


In a small cluster with machines have the same configuration (or not,
when newer hd are more bigger than the oldest) i use a live cd and cp
- -pr /mnt/gentoo/* /mnt/gentoo2/*.

Works fine. Changing hostname and ip and i have a new cluster client.
Better than ghost that don't change mbr or dd. A shutdown -Fr now in
a first reboot is a good idea.

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[gentoo-user] What xorg pkgs needed for X to work

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
[Please excuse if this is a double whammy... it appears not to have
made it to the mail/news server]

Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of
anything better.

I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall

So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when
I test what all gets installed with:

  emerge -vp xfce4-meta

I notice that xorg-x11 is not amongst the... dependencies. 

xorg-server is absent as well, but I seem to recall a more basic xorg
pkgs being involved.  Maybe something like xorg-base... or whatever.

Apparently something has happened with naming of pkgs or something,
that I haven't kept up with.

But can a user really get use out of xfce4-meta with no xorg-server?

Just so you know its not already installed, heres a grep of all
installed pkgs:

  qlop --list|grep xorg
  Fri Jan 15 11:02:43 2010  x11-misc/xorg-cf-files-1.0.3

- -  -= - - -
 
I've included the dependencies in case anyone is interested...
Should there be something more from xorg?

emerge -vp xfce4-meta 

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies   ... done!
[ebuild  N] app-text/libpaper-1.1.23  343 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/eject-2.1.5-r2  USE=nls 121 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-python/setuptools-0.6.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/dmidecode-2.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-text/iso-codes-3.11.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/glib-2.22.3  USE=-debug -doc -fam -hardened 
(-selinux) -xattr 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXext-1.1.1  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/freetype-2.3.11  USE=X -bindist -debug -doc 
-fontforge -utils 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.5  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/dbus-1.3.0-r1  USE=X -debug -doc (-selinux) -test 0 
kB
[ebuild U ] app-admin/eselect-1.2.9 [1.2.3] USE=-bash-completion -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libgamin-0.1.10-r2  USE=python -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libxkbfile-1.0.6  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-themes/xfce4-icon-theme-4.4.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/xcb-util-0.3.6  USE=-debug -test 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/appres-1.0.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/netpbm-10.48.00-r1  USE=X jpeg png tiff zlib -jbig 
-jpeg2k -rle -svga -xml 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-proto/recordproto-1.14  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/xprop-1.1.0  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.22  USE=python -alisp -debug -doc 
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file 
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug 
rate route share shm softvol 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/xbitmaps-1.1.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/giflib-4.1.6-r1  USE=X -rle 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/imake-1.0.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/gccmakedep-1.0.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-python/numpy-1.4.0  USE=-doc -lapack -test 0 kB
[ebuild  N] sys-apps/usbutils-0.86-r1  USE=zlib -network-cron 0 kB
[ebuild  N] virtual/eject-0  0 kB
[ebuild  N] media-libs/libexif-0.6.19  USE=nls -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-proto/resourceproto-1.1.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libfontenc-1.0.5  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/iceauth-1.0.3  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.7.1  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.82  USE=-bash-completion -debug -doc 
-test 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXmu-1.0.5  USE=-debug -ipv6 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/startup-notification-0.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXfixes-4.0.4  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXrandr-1.3.0  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/atk-1.28.0  USE=-debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXi-1.3  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.70  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXpm-3.5.8  USE=nls -debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-python/pygobject-2.20.0  USE=-debug -doc -examples -libffi 
-test 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.7  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.1  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXxf86misc-1.0.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.1.0  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-admin/eselect-emacs-1.13  0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXp-1.0.0  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.2  USE=-debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXfontcache-1.0.5  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-perl/glib-perl-1.222  0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-admin/gam-server-0.1.10  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXres-1.0.4  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] xfce-base/xfconf-4.7.0  USE=perl -debug -profile 461 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXcursor-1.1.10  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXdamage-1.1.2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N] x11-libs/libXcomposite-0.4.1  USE=-debug -doc 0 kB

Re: [gentoo-user] What xorg pkgs needed for X to work

2010-01-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 January 2010 20:43:32 Harry Putnam wrote:
 [Please excuse if this is a double whammy... it appears not to have
 made it to the mail/news server]
 
 Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of
 anything better.
 
 I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall
 
 So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when
 I test what all gets installed with:
 
   emerge -vp xfce4-meta
 
 I notice that xorg-x11 is not amongst the... dependencies.
 
 xorg-server is absent as well, but I seem to recall a more basic xorg
 pkgs being involved.  Maybe something like xorg-base... or whatever.
 
 Apparently something has happened with naming of pkgs or something,
 that I haven't kept up with.
 
 But can a user really get use out of xfce4-meta with no xorg-server?

Yes.

This is how X11 works. xfce does not need a full blown xserver on the *local* 
machine, it simply needs X libs to function. The X libs in turn will talk to 
the xserver, which does not have to be on the local machine.

Parallel situation: You do not need X and a browser on a machine running a web 
server, as the pages served are not necessarily viewed on the machine hosting 
apache.

To get X you can either;

merge xorg-x11 (this is the meta package you didn't know the name of) or
put X in USE

Note carefully that this is not a silly situation, it works this way by 
design.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-15 Thread Szénási István
And what about dd?
Not the fastest solution, but it is copy the mbr, the boot loader, the
partition table and all partitions. After it you should use the parted
or the gparted to move/resize the necesarry partitions.

-- 
Szénási István



Re: [gentoo-user] What xorg pkgs needed for X to work

2010-01-15 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 12:03 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of
 anything better.
 
 I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall
 
 So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when
 I test what all gets installed with:
 
   emerge -vp xfce4-meta
 
 I notice that xorg-x11 is not amongst the... dependencies. 
 
 xorg-server is absent as well, but I seem to recall a more basic xorg
 pkgs being involved.  Maybe something like xorg-base... or whatever.
 
 Apparently something has happened with naming of pkgs or something,
 that I haven't kept up with.
 
 But can a user really get use out of xfce4-meta with no xorg-server?

Yes, in same way a user can can get use out of Firefox without
installing Apache ;-).  X11 is client/server based.  Client(s) and
server need not exist on the same machine, and a server can serve
multiple distributed clients simultaneously without any local clients.

You probably want:

$ # set up VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES as appropriate
$ emerge -vp xfce4-meta xorg-server 




[gentoo-user] Re: What xorg pkgs needed for X to work

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:

 
 On Friday 15 January 2010 20:43:32 Harry Putnam wrote:
  [Please excuse if this is a double whammy... it appears not to have
  made it to the mail/news server]
  
  Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of
  anything better.
  
  I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall
  
  So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when
  I test what all gets installed with:
  
emerge -vp xfce4-meta
  
  I notice that xorg-x11 is not amongst the... dependencies.
  
  xorg-server is absent as well, but I seem to recall a more basic xorg
  pkgs being involved.  Maybe something like xorg-base... or whatever.
  
  Apparently something has happened with naming of pkgs or something,
  that I haven't kept up with.
  
  But can a user really get use out of xfce4-meta with no xorg-server?
 
 Yes.
 
 This is how X11 works. xfce does not need a full blown xserver on the *local* 
 machine, it simply needs X libs to function. The X libs in turn will talk to 
 the xserver, which does not have to be on the local machine.
 
 Parallel situation: You do not need X and a browser on a machine running a 
 web 
 server, as the pages served are not necessarily viewed on the machine hosting 
 apache.

Ahh yes... I see you point now.

 To get X you can either;
 
 merge xorg-x11 (this is the meta package you didn't know the name of) or
 put X in USE
 
 Note carefully that this is not a silly situation, it works this way by 
 design.

Well that is kind of the kicker... I do have X in use flags.  In fact posting
all I have in /etc/make.conf below:

 USE=X acpi alsa apache2 branding cscope dbus emacs ffmpeg gif hal
  jpeg lock logrotate mbox mysql samba sasl session svg vim-pager
  vim-with-x png pdf session startup-notification subversion thunar
  tiff exif win32codecs Xaw3d

 ## FOR Xfce4 = branding dbus hal lock session startup-notification thunar
 ## They are added above

  -bluetooth -crypt -eds -emboss  -evo -gnome -gstreamer -imap
  -ipv6 -kde -ldap -mad -maildir -mikmod -minimal -qt3 -qt3support
  -qt4  -sdl -xscreensaver

As you see, it is the very first USE flag.
Maybe something the the negative list is making a problem...?

But its not a major obstacle.. of course, my real aim is to get X going with
Xfce4 and I'm pretty sure I can get that done.

Thanks for the input.




[gentoo-user] What role does dev-libs/boost play with encfs?

2010-01-15 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm probably way behind the eightball asking something like this,
but I'm wondering what role `dev-libs/boost' plays with encfs.

The home page indicates its something of a helper application for
using cpp++ programming language and applications.

The reason I ask is that it appears to be up there with kde when
it comes to compiling that critter.

I'm rebuilding my main desktop from scratch install and have been
used to using encfs for some private data... I don't recall having
to wrestle `boost' to the ground when I installed encfs (long ago).

I may just have been too busy to see it burning up time.  But what
seems like hrs is just a bit lenghy for something that is billed 
as a sort of helper application.

Well its really only been a little over an hour but I see no signs of 
the end coming near in the present output...

I'ts not really a big complaint... I'm more curious than put out.  
Being a retiree and lazy to boot I have the time for it... hehe. 

Oh, and my hardware is not that uptodate ... its p4 celeron 3.0 cpu
with 3GB ram.  




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How can I move system to new disk?

2010-01-15 Thread Stroller


On 15 Jan 2010, at 20:12, Szénási István wrote:


And what about dd?
Not the fastest solution, but it is copy the mbr, the boot loader, the
partition table and all partitions. After it you should use the parted
or the gparted to move/resize the necesarry partitions.


It should be mentioned that if you use this method then, after running  
parted to resize the partition(s), you will also need to resize the  
filesystem(s) on the partition(s).


This is well documented - google resize ext3 or whatever. Not sure  
if this is necessary using GParted - probably not.


Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] exaile + XFCE + global shortcuts

2010-01-15 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 13 January 2010 16:13:38 Arnau Bria wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm moving from amarok to exaile.
 
 Now I'm trying to configure my global shortcuts on XFCE. I've read
 somewhere (forums+google) that I should have some exaile plugin called
 keyboard shortcut, but I don't have it when I open the plugin dialog
 box. I don't find any plugin in portage and I don't know if I have to
 manually download it or not (and where to get it).
 
 I'm using 0.2.99.
 
 Could someone that is already using exaile give me some help on this
 issue?

Thank your for bringing it to our attention!  I've been on a lookout for an 
amarok replacement.

I just installed it so I'm not up to speed with it to answer your question, 
but I am having a similar problem.  When I click on Shoutcast it complains 
that there is a HTTP protocol missing:

A HTTP protocol source plugin is required to play this stream, but not 
installed.

Which one is that?  The shoutcast plugin is in there and enabled.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] exaile + XFCE + global shortcuts

2010-01-15 Thread Mick
On Friday 15 January 2010 23:31:52 you wrote:
 On Wednesday 13 January 2010 16:13:38 Arnau Bria wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I'm moving from amarok to exaile.
 
  Now I'm trying to configure my global shortcuts on XFCE. I've read
  somewhere (forums+google) that I should have some exaile plugin called
  keyboard shortcut, but I don't have it when I open the plugin dialog
  box. I don't find any plugin in portage and I don't know if I have to
  manually download it or not (and where to get it).
 
  I'm using 0.2.99.
 
  Could someone that is already using exaile give me some help on this
  issue?
 
 Thank your for bringing it to our attention!  I've been on a lookout for an
 amarok replacement.
 
 I just installed it so I'm not up to speed with it to answer your question,
 but I am having a similar problem.  When I click on Shoutcast it complains
 that there is a HTTP protocol missing:
 
 A HTTP protocol source plugin is required to play this stream, but not
 installed.
 
 Which one is that?  The shoutcast plugin is in there and enabled.

I may have found what determines the plugins:

I think that you need to install the corresponding gst-plugins.  There seems 
to be one already installed on my system called gnomemmkeys (you can find this 
when you click Edit/Plugins/Install plugins and it takes you to 
/usr/share/exaile/plugins to choose from).

HTH.
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] What role does dev-libs/boost play with encfs?

2010-01-15 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 23:11 +, Harry Putnam wrote:
 I'm probably way behind the eightball asking something like this,
 but I'm wondering what role `dev-libs/boost' plays with encfs.
 
Boost is a C++ library.  It provides facilities for such things as
handling XML, abstracting filesystems, complex data structures, etc,
etc.

See http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_41_0

encfs is a FUSE and accompanying utilties.  It utilizes C++ and uses a
few libraries, among them Boost.

 The home page indicates its something of a helper application for
 using cpp++ programming language and applications.
 
It's a library, not an application (qlist boost).

 The reason I ask is that it appears to be up there with kde when
 it comes to compiling that critter.
 
It's C++.  g++ is slow.

 I'm rebuilding my main desktop from scratch install and have been
 used to using encfs for some private data... I don't recall having
 to wrestle `boost' to the ground when I installed encfs (long ago).
 
 I may just have been too busy to see it burning up time.  But what
 seems like hrs is just a bit lenghy for something that is billed 
 as a sort of helper application.
 
It's a library. Not a helper application.  It includes a lot of useful
stuff (although encfs probably uses only a few of them).

 Well its really only been a little over an hour but I see no signs of 
 the end coming near in the present output...
 
 I'ts not really a big complaint... I'm more curious than put out.  
 Being a retiree and lazy to boot I have the time for it... hehe. 
 
 Oh, and my hardware is not that uptodate ... its p4 celeron 3.0 cpu
 with 3GB ram.  
 
 

If you *really* want to know what encfs uses Boost for you could, of
course, examine the source :)  But you really only need to know that
it's a big C++ library that's used by encfs.

Go grab a coffee or do a load of laundry or something.

-a





[gentoo-user] changing nvidia settings dynamically

2010-01-15 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi all,

For a long time I've been using nvidia's twinview for two 1920x1200
displays (laptop and external LCD).

Whenever I dock / undock I have to run nvidia-settings to change the
resolution from the virtual 3840x1200 to 1920x1200 or vice versa.  Also
since two screens is the Default I have to do this when I log in with
only the laptop.

I am looking for a way to use the command line nvidia-settings (as much
as I've studied the help I can't find out how to do it - all attributes
seem read-only to the command line nvidia-settings) 

Then I can call nvidia-settings --some-options on a dock / undock event.

Alternatively, I read in the nvidia-drivers README that you can use
metamodes and then use the FN-F8 (CRT/LCD switch key) to switch between
them.  However, when I use metamodes I always get a 3840 wide screen,
and I can scroll left and right to the unseen space.

These are the metamodes I've tried:
1. The two-screen only metamode:
Option metamodes DFP-0: 1920x1200 +1920+0, DFP-2: 1920x1200 +0+0
2. attempt to use a 1920 metamode as well:
Option metamodes DFP-0: 1920x1200; DFP-0: 1920x1200 +1920+0, 
DFP-2: 1920x1200 +0+0
3. attempt 2:
Option metamodes DFP-0: 1920x1200 +1920+0, DFP-2: 1920x1200 
+0+0; DFP-0: 1920x1200 +0+0,

Here's my screen section (all other sections are basic):
Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Device0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth24
Option TwinView 1
Option TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder DFP-2
Option metamodes DFP-0: 1920x1200 +1920+0, DFP-2: 1920x1200 +0+0
SubSection Display
Depth   24
EndSubSection
EndSection

Has anyone done a dynamic mode change with nvidia xinerama?

thanks,
-- 
Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au

If you have nothing to do, don't do it here.





[gentoo-user] Intel 4965 doesn't work with 2.6.32?

2010-01-15 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi again,

just when I think I'm solving problems here's another one:

my laptop mpci wireless card is detected by lspci as:
0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or
AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)

with 2.6.31 everything works fine (network manager, wpa supplicant,
etc).  However with 2.6.32, I can load the module (iwlagn) and see it in
dmesg, but iwconfig just says wlan0  no wireless extensions. and I
can't associate or do anything.

Google doesn't find any similar issues, however someone on the tuxonice
list is having trouble resuming a 4965 Golan...

any ideas?

thanks
-- 
Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au

Stult's Report:
Our problems are mostly behind us.  What we have to do now is
fight the solutions.