Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 17 July 2010 22:17:32 Stéphane Guedon wrote: See how fantastic this is? See how this conforms to The One True (Unix) Way? See how it looks nothing like XML (invented by a Windows user, obviously), and actually looks a lot like perl with regexes? On second thoughts, it looks nothing like perl. There aren't enough $, @ and % symbols in it. But the regex bit stands. :-) Thind this un-understandable ! It's a joke, and it's been going on for a *very* long time :-) Every time someone mentions hal, and it doesn't matter what it's about, either me or Neil will usually post and and tell Dale now is his chance to tell us about hal. We've done this about 100 times by now so nothing Dale says is new :-) And everyone else usually joins in the fun. Sometimes, just for fun, we'll turn the hal joke into something against perl, or python or anything else really. If you don't get the joke, you can ignore everything that happened after the first person mentioned "Dale" Yea, everybody likes to pick on me. LOL People seem to forget tho that I have told people to try to use hal, even with xorg. Sometimes it just works. When it doesn't, remove the hal USE flag for xorg and life goes on. I also think sometimes the joke is on everyone else. Even the guy that wrote hal has given up on that monster. That says a LOT to me. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard
On Saturday 17 July 2010 22:17:32 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > See how fantastic this is? See how this conforms to The One True (Unix) > > Way? > > > > > > > > See how it looks nothing like XML (invented by a Windows user, > > obviously), and actually looks a lot like perl with regexes? > > > > > > > > On second thoughts, it looks nothing like perl. There aren't enough $, @ > > and % symbols in it. But the regex bit stands. > > > > > > > > :-) > > Thind this un-understandable ! It's a joke, and it's been going on for a *very* long time :-) Every time someone mentions hal, and it doesn't matter what it's about, either me or Neil will usually post and and tell Dale now is his chance to tell us about hal. We've done this about 100 times by now so nothing Dale says is new :-) And everyone else usually joins in the fun. Sometimes, just for fun, we'll turn the hal joke into something against perl, or python or anything else really. If you don't get the joke, you can ignore everything that happened after the first person mentioned "Dale" -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard
Le Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:29:43, Alan McKinnon a écrit :
> On Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:12:32 Dale wrote:
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > >> I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules
> > >> (without relation to udev).
> > >>
> > >> But I don't like udev, its syntax is really hard to understand for
> > >> user !
> > >
> > > Dale, here's your chance to jump in and comment.
> > >
> > > This user *obviously* never had to deal with hal.
> >
> > Oh crap. You mean udev uses xml config files too? Well, at least udev
> > hasn't broke my keyboard and mouse. lol I don't have to much trouble
> > with udev. Heck, the one time I did, I deleted all the config files and
> > re-emerged the thing. Worked great then. I think one got messed up
> > somehow.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-) :-)
>
> No, not XML. It uses something MUCH better. It uses this:
>
> $ cat rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules
> # This file was automatically generated by the /lib64/udev/write_cd_rules
> # program, probably run by the cd-aliases-generator.rules rules file.
> #
> # You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line
> # and set the $GENERATED variable.
>
> # DVD+-RW_AD-7640A (pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0)
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0",
> SYMLINK+="cdrom", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0",
> SYMLINK+="cdrw", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0",
> SYMLINK+="dvd", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0",
> SYMLINK+="dvdrw", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
> # Mass_Storage (pci-:00:1d.0-usb-0:2:1.2-scsi-0:0:0:0)
> SUBSYSTEM=="block", ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*",
> ENV{ID_SERIAL}=="HUAWEI_Mass_Storage-0:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom1",
> ENV{GENERATED}="1"
>
>
>
> See how fantastic this is? See how this conforms to The One True (Unix)
> Way?
>
> See how it looks nothing like XML (invented by a Windows user, obviously),
> and actually looks a lot like perl with regexes?
>
> On second thoughts, it looks nothing like perl. There aren't enough $, @
> and % symbols in it. But the regex bit stands.
>
> :-)
I thind this impossible to understand !
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Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard
Le Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:29:43, Alan McKinnon a écrit :
> On Wednesday 14 July 2010 22:12:32 Dale wrote:
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote:
> > >> I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules
> > >> (without relation to udev).
> > >>
> > >> But I don't like udev, its syntax is really hard to understand for
> > >> user !
> > >
> > > Dale, here's your chance to jump in and comment.
> > >
> > > This user *obviously* never had to deal with hal.
> >
> > Oh crap. You mean udev uses xml config files too? Well, at least udev
> > hasn't broke my keyboard and mouse. lol I don't have to much trouble
> > with udev. Heck, the one time I did, I deleted all the config files and
> > re-emerged the thing. Worked great then. I think one got messed up
> > somehow.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-) :-)
>
> No, not XML. It uses something MUCH better. It uses this:
>
> $ cat rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules
> # This file was automatically generated by the /lib64/udev/write_cd_rules
> # program, probably run by the cd-aliases-generator.rules rules file.
> #
> # You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line
> # and set the $GENERATED variable.
>
> # DVD+-RW_AD-7640A (pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0)
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0",
> SYMLINK+="cdrom", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0",
> SYMLINK+="cdrw", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0",
> SYMLINK+="dvd", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:1f.1-scsi-0:0:0:0",
> SYMLINK+="dvdrw", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
> # Mass_Storage (pci-:00:1d.0-usb-0:2:1.2-scsi-0:0:0:0)
> SUBSYSTEM=="block", ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*",
> ENV{ID_SERIAL}=="HUAWEI_Mass_Storage-0:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom1",
> ENV{GENERATED}="1"
>
>
>
> See how fantastic this is? See how this conforms to The One True (Unix)
> Way?
>
> See how it looks nothing like XML (invented by a Windows user, obviously),
> and actually looks a lot like perl with regexes?
>
> On second thoughts, it looks nothing like perl. There aren't enough $, @
> and % symbols in it. But the regex bit stands.
>
> :-)
Thind this un-understandable !
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Re: [gentoo-user] kdm & french keyboard
Le Wednesday 14 July 2010 16:44:45, Alan McKinnon a écrit : > On Wednesday 14 July 2010 09:58:02 Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > I agree with you, but I like to make things in order with the rules > > (without relation to udev). > > > > But I don't like udev, its syntax is really hard to understand for user ! > > Dale, here's your chance to jump in and comment. > > This user *obviously* never had to deal with hal. I use hal to make my usb key allways mount on the same mountpoint. -- Stéphane Guedon page web : http://www.22decembre.eu/ carte de visite : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.vcf clé publique gpg : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] xkb definitions
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:55:37 -0400 Andrey Vul wrote: > Are there guides on making custom xkb layout(s)? I want to use a > custom phonetic Russian layout without requiring a UTF-8 keyboard > tr/iconv equivalent (echo qwerty | kbtr -f qwerty -t yazherty) > > -- > Andrey Vul > begin-base64 600 sig > bXNuLCBob21lOiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ0KdSBvZiB0OiBhbmRyZXkudnVsQHV0b3Jv > bnRvLmNhDQpzbXMsIHZvaWNlbWFpbDogNDE2MzAzOTkyMw0K > ` > end > There were quite a lot of X11 libs affected by a recent emerge on my system and there were almost 68 config files that required installing/updating. A number of them dealt with the very subject you are enquiring here. Sorry I can't be more specific - if you look at the files you emerged in the last week (on a stable system) you will hopefully find the config files I refer to here. Otherwise, give me a shout and will look deeper into it. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Any centralized documentation on qemu-kvm?
Finally got the show on the road, with the boot ISO image booting, and even showing the cute penguin . A couple of more advanced questions now that I have an expert on the line... 1) Are multiple "-redir" clauses allowed in the "qemu-kvm" boot command? I've got port 22 redirected, and can copy files and tunnel various services over scp/ssh. Having multiple "-redir" clauses (i.e. re-mapping various ports) would allow a bit more flexibility. 2) What cpu settings should I use on the guest? The default is 1 core of a "QEMU" cpu. I may go to 2 (The host has 4 cores). Does "-march=native" handle it properly, or do I have to "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and select features that show up in the "flags" line? -- Walter Dnes
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Any recent LVM changes?
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 11:12:09AM -0700, walt wrote: > I'm using all the same versions on my ~amd64 and having no problems. > I just re-merged util-linux without errors, so it's worrisome that the > patch fails. Filesystem corruption? > > Smells to me like hardware or even driver problems. Did you just > recently update the kernel? Are the backup drives in a different > enclosure or connected to a different controller? Cable problems? > Flakey power supply? Machine overheating? Flakey memory? Overclocking? I rebooted and everything is working again. I was on pins and needles while waiting, but a backup went fine last night. util-linux still complains: >>> Preparing source in /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/util-linux-2.18/work/util-linux-ng-2.18 ... * Applying util-linux-ng-2.17.1-20100308.diff ... * Failed Patch: util-linux-ng-2.17.1-20100308.diff ! * ( /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/util-linux-2.18/work/util-linux-ng-2.17.1-20100308.diff ) * * Include in your bugreport the contents of: * * /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/util-linux-2.18/temp/util-linux-ng-2.17.1-20100308.diff.out and that log says * util-linux-ng-2.17.1-20100308.diff * == PATCH COMMAND: patch -p0 -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch < '/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/util-linux-2.18/work/util-linux-ng-2.17.1-20100308.diff' == can't find file to patch at input line 13 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: -- |If this patch does not apply cleanly to newer version of util-linux-ng, try |replacing original lomount.c lomount.h loop.h losetup.8 files in mount |subdirectory with versions from util-linux-ng that the patch is for. And |then apply this patch. | |mount/Makefile.in is a generated file. You can ignore patch failures on that |file if you generate it again by running the ./autogen.sh script. That |./autogen.sh script needs recent versions of autohell tools. | |diff -urN util-linux-ng-2.17.1/mount/Makefile.am util-linux-ng-2.17.1-AES/mount/Makefile.am |--- util-linux-ng-2.17.1/mount/Makefile.am 2010-02-04 13:53:56.0 +0200 |+++ util-linux-ng-2.17.1-AES/mount/Makefile.am 2010-03-08 08:44:02.0 +0200 So I suppose I should open a bug on it. If it can't even find the file, I don't think replacing existing files from elsewhere will do any good. That also implies upstream will get things straightened out sooner or later anyway. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman & rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
