Re: [gentoo-user] kde 4.6.x going stable?
Dale wrote: If you are interested, I can post back if re-emerging those fixes it or not. I upgraded kdelibs but have not re-emerged the rest yet. Dale :-) :-) I re-emerged some packages and the logout issue seems to work better. I'm going to run this: emerge -1a $(qlist -C -I kde-*/*) and see if it gets even better. Just sort of a catch all for kde there. Hope this helps tho. Dle :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] kde 4.6.x going stable?
On Wednesday 16 February 2011 17:51:45 Dale wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Ask kde what's their timeline to release 4.6.1. Add 30 days. Not before then. AFAIK the release date for 4.6.1 is scheduled for March 1 I'll add this. KDE 4.6 has shutdown/logout issues here. If I have Kpatience or Konqueror open when I log out, it won't log out. I have to go to a console, login, kill xdm, kill the leftover cruft from KDE, restart xdm and login. There was a update to kdelibs that was supposed to fix this but I may need to re-emerge konqueror, Kpatience and friends for it to die cleanly. Right now, I would wait unless whatever is stable is causing you issues. This would be a really good idea if someone that is not geeky is using the system. They may not know how to kill everything or have the root password to kill it all. If it is just you, you may not mind the extra steps. If you are interested, I can post back if re-emerging those fixes it or not. I upgraded kdelibs but have not re-emerged the rest yet. Dale :-) :-) I had similar problems with the stable kde 4.4.5 where I was unable to logout/shutdown. A rebuild of KDE resolved that, not sure which part was malfunctioning. Please try rebuilding those and see if it works. I had the issue as well when all programs were already closed. So it might not be those two causing the problems. I will test logging out with konqueror and kpatience running on 4.6.0 (testing) when I get back home tonight. I didn't see this problem with this version yet. FWIW, I have not seen any issues with 4.6.0 (including the 4.6 version of kdepim) that weren't solved by fixing other packages and I have been running it for a couple of weeks now. -- Joost PS. I did wipe my ~/.kde folders as I had some issues caused by settings that were already present since 3.3.x...
Re: [gentoo-user] kde 4.6.x going stable?
Joost Roeleveld wrote: I had similar problems with the stable kde 4.4.5 where I was unable to logout/shutdown. A rebuild of KDE resolved that, not sure which part was malfunctioning. Please try rebuilding those and see if it works. I had the issue as well when all programs were already closed. So it might not be those two causing the problems. I will test logging out with konqueror and kpatience running on 4.6.0 (testing) when I get back home tonight. I didn't see this problem with this version yet. FWIW, I have not seen any issues with 4.6.0 (including the 4.6 version of kdepim) that weren't solved by fixing other packages and I have been running it for a couple of weeks now. -- Joost PS. I did wipe my ~/.kde folders as I had some issues caused by settings that were already present since 3.3.x... There is another post I sent about the time you were typing yours. So, we have a little crossing in the mail here. I re-emerged Konqueor and kpatience and they seem to close fine, at least the once I did test anyway. I'm in the process of rebuilding the rest of KDE now. I have not noticed any other issues with KDE 4.6 either. It seems to work fine to me. No clue if something under the hood is broken tho. When I upgraded to KDE4, I started with a fresh .kde folder. I just copied over stuff for Kopete and a couple other things. KDE seemed to work better. I don't use Kmail or anything so there isn't much to copy over. Also, Konqueror runs as root here. I use it to edit config files and such. Dolphin wasn't working for me to well so I went back to Konqueror. I did test Dolphin the other day tho, it seems to be much better. I just don't like the way the box on the left is set up. Sort of working on changing that around a bit. I suspect that when this recompile gets done, things will work better. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: For net-print/hplip users
2011/2/14 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu: On Mon, Feb 14 2011, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: I wrote an update to the hplip section of the Gentoo Printing Guide [1], removed the elog messages from the ebuild and referred to the guide instead. I hope this helps everyone who is installing/upgrading hplip. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml#hplip This is very nice. I would add that to use the scanner you need the scanner USE flag (I know that sounds obvious, but I would included it). Thanks for your input but I think this is too obvious to mention. If you own a scanner and see the scanner flag when you install a package, what will you do? Disable it? I guess not. -- Daniel Pielmeier
Re: [gentoo-user] Prelink on a already fast system
on 02/17/2011 09:05 AM Thanasis wrote the following: on 02/15/2011 05:54 PM Kfir Lavi wrote the following: I have just upgraded my laptop to 8GB (90$ ebay ddr3). I now use tmpfs on /var/tmp and /tmp/ and run catalyst with all sorts of experiments. Take care I needed to provide more inodes to /var/tmp/ . with nr_inodes=500K,size=80% the default was 204K. Regards, Kfir How do you manage the number of inodes on tmpfs? I found the answer: the mount option nr_inodes=
Re: [gentoo-user] kde 4.6.x going stable?
On Thursday 17 February 2011 01:35:19 Dale wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: I had similar problems with the stable kde 4.4.5 where I was unable to logout/shutdown. A rebuild of KDE resolved that, not sure which part was malfunctioning. Please try rebuilding those and see if it works. I had the issue as well when all programs were already closed. So it might not be those two causing the problems. I will test logging out with konqueror and kpatience running on 4.6.0 (testing) when I get back home tonight. I didn't see this problem with this version yet. FWIW, I have not seen any issues with 4.6.0 (including the 4.6 version of kdepim) that weren't solved by fixing other packages and I have been running it for a couple of weeks now. -- Joost PS. I did wipe my ~/.kde folders as I had some issues caused by settings that were already present since 3.3.x... There is another post I sent about the time you were typing yours. So, we have a little crossing in the mail here. I re-emerged Konqueor and kpatience and they seem to close fine, at least the once I did test anyway. I'm in the process of rebuilding the rest of KDE now. Yes, I saw your email :) I have not noticed any other issues with KDE 4.6 either. It seems to work fine to me. No clue if something under the hood is broken tho. Same here, but as I do use it a lot, I think I would notice it. And any issues I find, I do report :) When I upgraded to KDE4, I started with a fresh .kde folder. I just copied over stuff for Kopete and a couple other things. KDE seemed to work better. I don't use Kmail or anything so there isn't much to copy over. I haven't am going to copy/merge the history-date from Kopete when I get round to it. I do use Kmail (embedded into kontact) and it works quite well. Akonadi takes a little bit to synchronize at first, but I do have 2 IMAP- accounts and a groupdav account configured. I believe that is causing it to take a little bit longer. Also, Konqueror runs as root here. I use it to edit config files and such. I tend to use the commandline for editing stuff for root, maybe I'm old-school in that, but I prefer not to use graphical software as root Dolphin wasn't working for me to well so I went back to Konqueror. I did test Dolphin the other day tho, it seems to be much better. I just don't like the way the box on the left is set up. Sort of working on changing that around a bit. In View-Panels, you can specify what to show on the left I have the places and folders shown on mine and am happy with those 2. I suspect that when this recompile gets done, things will work better I hope so for you, I did do a full emerge -e on mine to fix some weird behaviours :) -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] x11-terms/terminator and hide_window shortcut key
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 02:12:57PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: Terminator claims it depends on python-keybinder for the show/hide function to work, but even after installing dev-libs/keybinder +python, pressing the show/hide window shortcut doesnt seem to do anything. Well, today's not a bad day to try something new: does anyone use terminator, and if so, has anyone ever gotten the show/hide shortcut key to work? Where do you see this information about show/hide window shortcut? I don't see it in the man page http://www.tenshu.net/wp-content/uploads/terminator.html A bit more searching shows that to be possibly a recent patch? https://code.launchpad.net/~peterbjorgensen/terminator/dropdown Does the gentoo install actually include that patch? (I think not. The gentoo install uses the 0.95 sources which was released on August last year, whereas the merge of the dropdown patch into trunk on launchpad was approved in October.) Maybe you just need to wait until the 0.96 version. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] invisible README
On 17 February 2011 05:45, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 110216 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I recently put some files at http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/esp/ . One of them is README.pdf , which is visible when I list the dir contents using SSh or Krusader, but which is not shown by FF, Konqueror or Lynx. If I make a copy called READFILE.pdf , it is shown by the browsers. Can anyone explain what's going on ? Maybe your IndexIgnore setting is something like this: IndexIgnore .??* *~ *# HEADER* README* RCS CVS *,v *,t So, where do I look for 'IndexIgnore ... ' ? The configuration line I quoted was taken from the Apache documentation: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexignore Yes, I checked Google it appears there sb a file .htaccess in the public dir, which can contain the IndexIgnore line. However, the server I'm using is on a university multi-user system so I don't have root access to change its default settings nor do I know whether creating my own .htaccess would work. My workaround -- renaming to READTHIS -- is adequate. Thanks to all who offered advice. You can try adding your own .htaccess at your webroot or even the directory in question and see if that overrides the default settings. Depending on how much they have locked down the apache configuration you may be able to override their default settings with yours as far as your particular directory is concerned. -- Regards, Mick
[gentoo-user] How to send mail with attachment from a cron job?
Hi, what is the best way to send a mail with a pdf attachment from a cron job? The machine is already set up with qmail + vpopmail + dovecot. I really don't know where to look for instructions on how to use qmail-send from a script. Thank you -- TopperH http://topperh.ath.cx
[gentoo-user] Re: How to send mail with attachment from a cron job?
On 2011-02-17, Andrea Momesso momesso.and...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, what is the best way to send a mail with a pdf attachment from a cron job? The machine is already set up with qmail + vpopmail + dovecot. I really don't know where to look for instructions on how to use qmail-send from a script. I'd use mutt: echo Here's an attachment | mutt -s cron sending a pdf -a whatever.pdf -- someb...@invalid.com -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I just heard the at SEVENTIES were over!! And gmail.comI was just getting in touch with my LEISURE SUIT!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to send mail with attachment from a cron job? [SOLVED]
Yeah, that works great!! Thank you! On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-02-17, Andrea Momesso momesso.and...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, what is the best way to send a mail with a pdf attachment from a cron job? The machine is already set up with qmail + vpopmail + dovecot. I really don't know where to look for instructions on how to use qmail-send from a script. I'd use mutt: echo Here's an attachment | mutt -s cron sending a pdf -a whatever.pdf -- someb...@invalid.com -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! I just heard the at SEVENTIES were over!! And gmail.com I was just getting in touch with my LEISURE SUIT!! -- TopperH http://topperh.ath.cx
Re: [gentoo-user] Prelink on a already fast system
Dale wrote: Well, what got me once was the trip a package took. I ordered something, can't remember what it was now but anyway, it left Memphis, went to Atlanta and sat there a day or two, then went to some place in Kentucky and sat there for a day or two. Then it went back to Memphis where it sat for a couple days and then they dropped it off at the post office to be delivered. DHL was the one that did all the running around the country. Needless to say, I wrote newegg a little note about all that. They refunded the shipping, which I wasn't worried about, and said she was going to talk to the higher ups since they are getting a lot of similar complaints. I notice that their only options now are UPS and such. I don't see the so called egg saver anymore. That package took over a week for me to get. As I explained in my note to newegg, I could have rode a bicycle to Memphis, got the package and rode the bike back faster than the shipping company could get it here or even just get it back to Memphis to drop it off at the post office. The funny part, once it was taken to the post office, I got it the next day. So much for snail mail. They should have shipped it with them to begin with. lol At least we know now why they went belly up. Let's not mention the part from Sears that I had to drive 40 miles one way to get. They delivered it to some ladies house. She found me in the phone book. I guess DHL doesn't have a phone book. :-@ There is only two people around here with my last name. The other is my brother. He knows where I live too. ;-) Dale :-) :-) I have a correction here. It appears egg saver is still alive. It also appears that DHL is still alive as well. I saw on the news where they closed down here in the USA but I guess it was just one of their big centers or something. Anyway, my 8Gb kit is coming from California in route to Mississippi so this may take a while. Given their record, I just hope it gets here at all. o_O My 4Gb stick will be here tomorrow. I also decided not to do the prelink thing. Sounds like it would just be something else to keep up to date with little gain if any gain at all. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: kde 4.6.x going stable?
Dirk Uys dirkcuys at gmail.com writes: Please read this: http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde Yep, I saw this. However much of the (QT) development and maintenance is from folks that receive a paycheck form Nokia. Now that MS is in the picture, I sure this burden will move to the Open Source Community, particularly the KDE devs. It's really nice when corporations at least partially support open source code. Adding QT to the KDE teams' responsibilities, is a burden. I have not read about legions of Nokia (former QT) developers happy to support QT without a paycheck..? Just a concern as I was hoping for a link to where the (ex) Nokia QT devs are speaking out and pledging to take AT forward.? All the above link sets forth is that there is a plausible, legal path forward, not a team, organization or leadership. After all, QT is very important to KDE and many other gui devices (industrial controls for example). Is Nokia pledging to keep moving QT forward? I read that MS owns quite a large amount of Nokia now, and that (CEO) Stephen is now Balmer's newest bitch That does not bode well for QT, KDE or open source efforts, imho. James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde 4.6.x going stable?
On Thursday 17 February 2011 18.28.36 James wrote: [...] After all, QT is very important to KDE and many other gui devices (industrial controls for example). Is Nokia pledging to keep moving QT forward? I read that MS owns quite a large amount of Nokia now, Where? I read the press releases and there it talkes about a partnership when it comes to smart phones. /Regards Naga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde 4.6.x going stable?
On Thursday 17 Feb 2011 11:58:36 PM James wrote: Is Nokia pledging to keep moving QT forward? well sort of.. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTA5OA -- - Yohan Pereira A man can do as he will, but not will as he will - Schopenhauer
[gentoo-user] dual boot RAID
Hello, Recently this link was posted: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software I am looking at new systems, and this link got me thinking. Dual boot linux with Windows7 all on a Raid (0) array? I found a bargain, MSI MS-7596 (760GM-E51) motherboard. But my only MSI motherboard experience, left a very bad taste in my mouth from years ago. BIOS nightmare Anyway the motherboard doc says it supports (Sata-II) RAID 0 1 0+1 or JBOD mode by AMD SB710. This does not sound like a good choice of MOBO and anyone with any raid/gentoo/ experience on a MSI motherboard (MS 7596) or such would be appreciated as to you opinion. I usually specify ASUS, as over the years, I've had very little trouble. Dual 2T RAID 0 drives with windows and gentoo is my goal; and any recommendations are most welcome. AMD is the only processor I use tia, James
Re: [gentoo-user] dual boot RAID
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:08 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, Recently this link was posted: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software I am looking at new systems, and this link got me thinking. Dual boot linux with Windows7 all on a Raid (0) array? I found a bargain, MSI MS-7596 (760GM-E51) motherboard. But my only MSI motherboard experience, left a very bad taste in my mouth from years ago. BIOS nightmare Anyway the motherboard doc says it supports (Sata-II) RAID 0 1 0+1 or JBOD mode by AMD SB710. This does not sound like a good choice of MOBO and anyone with any raid/gentoo/ experience on a MSI motherboard (MS 7596) or such would be appreciated as to you opinion. I usually specify ASUS, as over the years, I've had very little trouble. Dual 2T RAID 0 drives with windows and gentoo is my goal; and any recommendations are most welcome. AMD is the only processor I use tia, James I use Asus also. Actually, I'm installing Gentoo on a 2-disk Asus laptop today. (G73JW) Seems pretty nice so far. I've left the original Win 7 installation on the first hard drive, but sized the partition down. I will set it up for dual boot later. For now I change the drive boot order. I boot from the second hard drive leaving the original Windows partitions completely alone, and then have RAID1 on both the drives where Gentoo is installed. I guess the one thing above I'm not clear about is your choice of what appears to be RAID 0? RAID 0 is hardly RAID as there's no redundancy. Lose 1 drive you lose all your data. Also, if you're doing Linux RAID then the MB chipset RAID stuff is immaterial. You're going to do it using mdadm software RAID which then has no impact on what Windows does. Processor choice makes little impact on how Linux RAID works. Faster is better. AMD or Intel is your choice. Good luck, Mark
