Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
Hello, On Sat, 02 Jul 2011, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: is there a software, a tool, a something which with it is possible to print the frame numbers of those frames in a video file, which are at positions, where the aspect-ratio changes? Try mplayer -nosound -benchmark -vo null FILE the third column is the frameno and aspect changes should be logged. I don't have a file to test with though. HTH, -dnh -- Human beings were created by water to transport it uphill. -- BSD fortune file
Re: [gentoo-user] md device hda - sda
On 07/01/2011 09:09 PM, Adam Carter wrote: What about your grub.conf (or /boot/grub/menu.lst) ? Its still running lilo, which references the meta devices; and the raid-extra-boot is just a fallback if the metadevice is down IIRC (its a mirror obviously) boot = /dev/md0 raid-extra-boot=/dev/hda,/dev/hdc image = /boot/kernel-2.6.38-r6ata label = 2.6.38-r6ata root = /dev/md2 read-only I do not use lilo. But, if it boots, then no problems :)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
David Haller gen...@dhaller.de [11-07-02 07:12]: Hello, On Sat, 02 Jul 2011, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: is there a software, a tool, a something which with it is possible to print the frame numbers of those frames in a video file, which are at positions, where the aspect-ratio changes? Try mplayer -nosound -benchmark -vo null FILE the third column is the frameno and aspect changes should be logged. I don't have a file to test with though. HTH, -dnh -- Human beings were created by water to transport it uphill. -- BSD fortune file Hi David, thank you for your reply ! :) It reports the aspect ratio changes...but it does not report the frames, at which it happens... Any other idea? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
Hello, On Sat, 02 Jul 2011, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: David Haller gen...@dhaller.de [11-07-02 07:12]: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: is there a software, a tool, a something which with it is possible to print the frame numbers of those frames in a video file, which are at positions, where the aspect-ratio changes? Try mplayer -nosound -benchmark -vo null FILE the third column is the frameno and aspect changes should be logged. I don't have a file to test with though. thank you for your reply ! :) It reports the aspect ratio changes...but it does not report the frames, at which it happens... Have a look at the last frameno of the progress before the reported aspect change in mplayer's output. That frame or the following is the one you're looking for. It should look something like this: Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. VO: [null] 640x360 = 640x360 Planar YV12 [zoom] V: 41.7 1044/1044 1% 0% 0.0% 0 0 [aspect change reported here, can't remember what the message is] V: [more progress] So, in this constructed case aspect change would be from frame 1044 to frame 1045 I think. This is from memory, so point me to a sample file if you need more details. Oh, you can also use 'avidemux' to load a file and navigate to specific frames. It's just that avidemux doesn't scale anamorphic stuff correctly, so you'd have to look at the output view whether an aspect change happens between two frames. There's also a program that tries to detect advertising, IIRC also using aspect changes as indicators. Its name escapes me ATM. HTH, -dnh -- Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. -- Wernher von Braun
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
David Haller gen...@dhaller.de [11-07-02 09:04]: Hello, On Sat, 02 Jul 2011, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: David Haller gen...@dhaller.de [11-07-02 07:12]: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: is there a software, a tool, a something which with it is possible to print the frame numbers of those frames in a video file, which are at positions, where the aspect-ratio changes? Try mplayer -nosound -benchmark -vo null FILE the third column is the frameno and aspect changes should be logged. I don't have a file to test with though. thank you for your reply ! :) It reports the aspect ratio changes...but it does not report the frames, at which it happens... Have a look at the last frameno of the progress before the reported aspect change in mplayer's output. That frame or the following is the one you're looking for. It should look something like this: Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect. VO: [null] 640x360 = 640x360 Planar YV12 [zoom] V: 41.7 1044/1044 1% 0% 0.0% 0 0 [aspect change reported here, can't remember what the message is] V: [more progress] So, in this constructed case aspect change would be from frame 1044 to frame 1045 I think. This is from memory, so point me to a sample file if you need more details. Oh, you can also use 'avidemux' to load a file and navigate to specific frames. It's just that avidemux doesn't scale anamorphic stuff correctly, so you'd have to look at the output view whether an aspect change happens between two frames. There's also a program that tries to detect advertising, IIRC also using aspect changes as indicators. Its name escapes me ATM. HTH, -dnh -- Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. -- Wernher von Braun Hi David, slowly but surely the circle is closing :) Initially I wanted to know the frame numbers to navigate - guess what program ? :) - avidemux directly to the advertising parts of the video to cut that stuff out of my (visual) way :))) I didnt want to scroll through the video stuff to find advertsisings anymore... Sorry when asking...I did not understand your last posting completly...I am no native English speaker. What is the name of the programm to cut off advertisings? ATM??? IIRC??? And escape sequences...or? I think I am completly lost here HELP ! :)) Best regards mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
On 2 July 2011, at 08:31, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ... Initially I wanted to know the frame numbers to navigate - guess what program ? :) - avidemux directly to the advertising parts of the video to cut that stuff out of my (visual) way :))) I didnt want to scroll through the video stuff to find advertsisings anymore… You're doing it again! Wasn't this raised before? I'm extremely sceptical of a plan to reimplement a media centre / home-theatre PC in bash scripts - just install MythTV and stop trying to reinvent the wheel. I'm surprised that detecting adverts is as simple, where you are, as detecting aspect ratio changes, because it ain't that easy elsewhere. But MythTV already has ad detection built-in. IIRC it uses different parameters for different countries / channels - in some places advertising can be identified by the lack of a channel logo that is watermarked in the corner of the screen over the TV show. There's also a program that tries to detect advertising, IIRC also using aspect changes as indicators. Its name escapes me ATM. Sorry when asking...I did not understand your last posting completly...I am no native English speaker. ATM??? IIRC??? And escape sequences...or? I think I am completly lost here…. ATM = at the moment IIRC = if I recall correctly its name escapes me = I can't remember its name Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
Am 02.07.2011 09:31, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: What is the name of the programm to cut off advertisings? ATM??? IIRC??? ATM and IIRC are acronyms metatron@Shao ~ $ wtf IIRC IIRC: if I recall correctly metatron@Shao ~ $ wtf ATM ATM: at the moment Greetings Sebastian Beßler signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
Am 02.07.2011 09:31, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: David Haller gen...@dhaller.de [11-07-02 09:04]: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: David Haller gen...@dhaller.de [11-07-02 07:12]: On Sat, 02 Jul 2011, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: is there a software, a tool, a something which with it is possible to print the frame numbers of those frames in a video file, which are at positions, where the aspect-ratio changes? [...] There's also a program that tries to detect advertising, IIRC also using aspect changes as indicators. Its name escapes me ATM. [...] What is the name of the programm to cut off advertisings? ATM??? IIRC??? And escape sequences...or? I think I am completly lost here HELP ! :)) Best regards mcc ATM and IIRC are acronyms. Replacing them with their meaning gives you: There's also a program that tries to detect advertising, if I recall correctly also using aspect changes as indicators. Its name escapes me at the moment. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
On Sat, 2 Jul 2011 09:38:50 +0100, Stroller wrote: I'm extremely sceptical of a plan to reimplement a media centre / home-theatre PC in bash scripts - just install MythTV and stop trying to reinvent the wheel. I was about to post something similar. There's also a program that tries to detect advertising, IIRC also using aspect changes as indicators. Its name escapes me ATM. MythTV has command line programs to detect adverts (mythcomflag) and remove them (mythtranscode). -- Neil Bothwick You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How do I turn off glibc's runtime error checks?
Hi, On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 04:18 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 07/02/2011 03:05 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: This is driving me nuts. Since a few days ago, glibc will abort programs with a: *** glibc detected *** program: free(): invalid pointer: ... *** or similar error message. I have no idea which package was updated that triggered this. I did *not* emerge glibc (qlop confirms that I emerged glibc 3 months ago.) The crashing programs *are* buggy. You can also check this one: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12518 iivanov
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:50:00 +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: What is the name of the programm to cut off advertisings? ATM??? IIRC??? cted from initi ATM and IIRC are acronyms If I were a pedantic old bastard (which I am) I would point out that they are abbreviations, not acronyms. An acronym is a word constructed from the initials or parts of other words, like radar or modem. I suppose IIRC barley qualifies if you pronounce it Erk! -- Neil Bothwick If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh, wait a minute, he already does. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Detecting frames at aspect-ratio-changes in a video file?
Hello, On Sat, 02 Jul 2011, Stroller wrote: On 2 July 2011, at 08:31, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ... Initially I wanted to know the frame numbers to navigate - guess what program ? :) - avidemux directly to the advertising parts of the video to cut that stuff out of my (visual) way :))) I didnt want to scroll through the video stuff to find advertsisings anymore? Well, does my suggested method work? You can input the frame-numbers to navigate to in avidemux. You're doing it again! Wasn't this raised before? [me hasn't really followed this list yet] I'm extremely sceptical of a plan to reimplement a media centre / home-theatre PC in bash scripts - just install MythTV and stop trying to reinvent the wheel. If that's the case, yes, Meino, do use MythTV or VDR. Or the c't-VDR derivative. Oh, and BTW: if you're german, the -de list could use some traffic, and I also know some guys on other multimedia-de lists who know vdr and or mythtv quite well. There's also a program that tries to detect advertising, IIRC also using aspect changes as indicators. Its name escapes me ATM. Sorry when asking...I did not understand your last posting completly...I am no native English speaker. ATM??? IIRC??? And escape sequences...or? I think I am completly lost here?. Neither am I[1]. And many others on this list (guessing from the names). I thought those acronyms to be common enough on MLs and Usenet. BTW: using google with 'define:ACRONYM' and http://en.wikipedia/wiki/ACRONYM has a success-rate of almost 100%. And if not, there are specialised directories, e.g. http://www.acronymfinder.com/ or abkuerzungen.de if you're german. ATM = at the moment IIRC = if I recall correctly Jep. its name escapes me = I can't remember its name Almost: I know I knew its name[, but at the moment,] the memory of that name has escaped (or fled) my mind ;) Or: I can't _quite_ remember it (now), but I should, I know it's there, but it has escaped into some corner of my mind and is making faces at me (or something similar). A slight distinction [cf. non-random sig] ;) Thanks though. And too bad nobody else has yet piped up with the name of the program. ISTR[2] that it also is (or was) used by one of/or both mythtv/vdr. Well, maybe I'll remember tomorrow. A good night's (or day's or whatever) sleep often works wonders when wrestling with linux problems (unlike Win-Probs[3], BTDTNT). And with can't remember stuff ;) Still got a total blank ATM though ... *yawn* ;) -dnh [1] but I might as well almost be. I forget to adapt at times. Sorry. [2] I seem to remember ... (Ich glaube mich [daran] zu erinnern, ...). [3] there, is at best 50:50, IIRC. Ok, that's up to Win95 up close but up to XP for mom (i.e. only neccessary stuff) ... -- Rincewind hesitated. The thought had crossed his mind, only very fast and looking nervously from side to side in case it got knocked over. -- Terry Pratchett, The Light Fantastic, p. 112
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with blocking, please: vte is blocking gnome-pty-helper
Hi, Neil. On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 01:17:01PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 10:39:18 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: After emerge-synching, an emerge -puND gives, in part: [ebuild N] x11-libs/gnome-pty-helper-0.28.1 [ebuild U ] x11-libs/vte-0.28.1-r200 [0.26.2] USE=introspection* [blocks b ] x11-libs/vte-0.27.90 (x11-libs/vte-0.27.90 is blocking x11-libs/gnome-pty-helper-0.28.1) . Am I right in thinking that the block means your vte version is too old for gnome-pty-helper? Yes, but the lower case b means that portage will resolve the block for you. The only reason it has stopped after reporting the block is that you used -p. Only blocks marked with a B require manual intervention. Ah, thanks! I just did an emerge -uND world and it worked. My Gnome still works too, thankfully. ;-) Thanks to everybody else who answered, too. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] md device hda - sda
I do not use lilo. But, if it boots, then no problems :) The box is at another site - i need to know if it is likely to work before i try :)
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM filter question
David W Noon writes: On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 22:05:12 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote about [gentoo-user] LVM filter question: [snip] filter = [ r|/dev/nbd.*|, r|/dev/sdd|, a/.*/ ] This should reject /dev/sdd from scanning. But it doesn't, pvscan spins it up. Any idea why it is not being ignored? The regular expression that precedes the one involving /dev/sdd provides a clue: it would appear that LVM wraps the r.e. with ^ and $ so that it completes a string. So, your r.e. should read: r|/dev/sdd.*| which decodes to reject ^/dev/sdd.*$ . This suppresses the scans of /dev/sdd1, /dev/sdd2, etc. Now, you might not have any partitions on /dev/sdd, but LVM cannot readily know that without reading the partition table, which spins up the drive. I guess LVM doesn't trust or, at least, depend upon udev to supply the partition details. Good idea, didn't think about this. I tried that, but it did not help. /dev/sdd indeed has no partitions, the whole drive is a LUKS container. Looks like this just does not work at all. Too bad. I have two big 1.5 TB drives, one as system drive, the other as identical backup drive. And then there are five more smaller drives for stuff I do not need regularly. Any LVM operation takes a while when all those drives have to spin up first. Another annoying problem is KDE's / Dolphin's trash. When I delete something to the trash, all drives (or at least some, I have to investigate this further) that have mounted partitions spin up, one after another. Wonko
[gentoo-user] Re: How do I turn off glibc's runtime error checks?
On 07/02/2011 12:32 PM, Ivan T. Ivanov wrote: Hi, On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 04:18 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 07/02/2011 03:05 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: This is driving me nuts. Since a few days ago, glibc will abort programs with a: *** glibc detected *** program: free(): invalid pointer: ... *** or similar error message. I have no idea which package was updated that triggered this. I did *not* emerge glibc (qlop confirms that I emerged glibc 3 months ago.) The crashing programs *are* buggy. You can also check this one: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12518 I'm on glibc 2.12, so this doesn't affect me.
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM filter question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 14:19:08 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] LVM filter question: David W Noon writes: [snip] So, your r.e. should read: r|/dev/sdd.*| which decodes to reject ^/dev/sdd.*$ . This suppresses the scans of /dev/sdd1, /dev/sdd2, etc. Now, you might not have any partitions on /dev/sdd, but LVM cannot readily know that without reading the partition table, which spins up the drive. I guess LVM doesn't trust or, at least, depend upon udev to supply the partition details. Good idea, didn't think about this. I tried that, but it did not help. /dev/sdd indeed has no partitions, the whole drive is a LUKS container. My best suggestion is to create a maximal primary partition as /dev/sdd1 and use that as your LUKS volume. That way, LVM will receive the partition details from udev and *might* not bother re-reading the partition table (but don't bet big bucks on it). - -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] == dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk4PF4oACgkQRQ2Fs59Psv/rLQCffhO28wgWhz/zE+FYwkgRlOfO 8xEAoJvn8soQYrXjiuyRxb5ue+rwUuTt =691b -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
My motherboard is getting flaky and it's time for a new one. I have an AMD 6000+ CPU, 4GB DDR2/800 RAM, 2TB SATA2 HD, Blu-Ray burner, PCI wireless card, 400W power supply, and ATX case. I could replace any of these components if it's worthwhile for some new feature, but I may as well keep them if it's not. The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is for playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're familiar with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er should look for? - Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
My motherboard is getting flaky and it's time for a new one. I have an AMD 6000+ CPU, 4GB DDR2/800 RAM, 2TB SATA2 HD, Blu-Ray burner, PCI wireless card, 400W power supply, and ATX case. I could replace any of these components if it's worthwhile for some new feature, but I may as well keep them if it's not. The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is for playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're familiar with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er should look for? - Grant Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? I use the nouveau drivers with my onboard Nvidia chipset now and they've been fine for the most part. I use a threaded ffmpeg to decode HD video instead of VDPAU so I don't bother with nvidia-drivers. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Feeding /etc/cron.dail and such into ?
Meino, I don't know fcron but I just put cron lines in a file and do crontab filename
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
Grant wrote: My motherboard is getting flaky and it's time for a new one. I have an AMD 6000+ CPU, 4GB DDR2/800 RAM, 2TB SATA2 HD, Blu-Ray burner, PCI wireless card, 400W power supply, and ATX case. I could replace any of these components if it's worthwhile for some new feature, but I may as well keep them if it's not. The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is for playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're familiar with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er should look for? - Grant Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? I use the nouveau drivers with my onboard Nvidia chipset now and they've been fine for the most part. I use a threaded ffmpeg to decode HD video instead of VDPAU so I don't bother with nvidia-drivers. - Grant I don't have any experience with ATI but I still use Nvidia and their drivers. I haven't had any problems as of yet. I did have a video problem once but it was a kernel problem. For me, I see no need in me getting a ATI card. That's just me. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? I use the nouveau drivers with my onboard Nvidia chipset now and they've been fine for the most part. I use a threaded ffmpeg to decode HD video instead of VDPAU so I don't bother with nvidia-drivers. - Grant I don't have any experience with ATI but I still use Nvidia and their drivers. I haven't had any problems as of yet. I did have a video problem once but it was a kernel problem. For me, I see no need in me getting a ATI card. That's just me. Dale I've just read that Nvidia no longer makes onboard video. Has anyone else heard that? Are server motherboard more reliable? - Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
On 07/02/2011 09:06 PM, Grant wrote: The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is for playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're familiar with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er should look for? - Grant Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? Yep. Unless you have old ATI hardware. Current hardware doesn't work well. Since he wants to buy new stuff, NVidia is recommended.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
On Saturday 02 July 2011 20:36:55 Dale wrote: I see no need in me getting a ATI card. That's just me. It's also me. NVidia has been straightforward for years: just plug it in and go. Choose the closed-source driver, or nowadays the Nouveau driver, and everything Just Works. Mind you, I don't play computer games (life's just too short) and so I've no need of 3D. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Feeding /etc/cron.dail and such into ?
Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com [11-07-02 23:57]: Meino, I don't know fcron but I just put cron lines in a file and do crontab filename Hi Bill, sorry for the confusion, Bill, my English screws the things up. Problem has solved itsself... Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems
After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers. This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing double-digits. What can be done to make the management of multiple Gentoo systems easier? I think identical hardware in each system would help a lot but I'm not sure that's practical. I need to put together a bunch of new workstations and I'm thinking some sort of server/client arrangement with the only Gentoo install being on the server could be appropriate. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is for playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're familiar with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er should look for? - Grant Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? Yep. Unless you have old ATI hardware. Current hardware doesn't work well. Since he wants to buy new stuff, NVidia is recommended. That's what I was afraid of. The fact that Nvidia has stopped making onboard video will pose a problem. I could install an Nvidia video card but I'm trying to keep temps low and I don't want a third fan in the case. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Feeding /etc/cron.dail and such into ?
On Jul 2, 2011 3:12 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com [11-07-02 23:57]: Meino, I don't know fcron but I just put cron lines in a file and do crontab filename Hi Bill, sorry for the confusion, Bill, my English screws the things up. Problem has solved itsself... It's my mother tongue and it's always screwing things up for me, too, Meino.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
Grant wrote: Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? I use the nouveau drivers with my onboard Nvidia chipset now and they've been fine for the most part. I use a threaded ffmpeg to decode HD video instead of VDPAU so I don't bother with nvidia-drivers. - Grant I don't have any experience with ATI but I still use Nvidia and their drivers. I haven't had any problems as of yet. I did have a video problem once but it was a kernel problem. For me, I see no need in me getting a ATI card. That's just me. Dale I've just read that Nvidia no longer makes onboard video. Has anyone else heard that? Are server motherboard more reliable? - Grant I looked around on newegg and found that there are several mobos that have Nvidia video built in. It seems they do still make them. I'm not sure if the video or mobos are any that you would like but they are being made at least. Me, I tend to buy video cards. They have upgrade options without having to put in a new mobo. YMMV tho. No idea on server boards. I would think they would be more reliable tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems
Grant wrote: After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers. This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing double-digits. What can be done to make the management of multiple Gentoo systems easier? I think identical hardware in each system would help a lot but I'm not sure that's practical. I need to put together a bunch of new workstations and I'm thinking some sort of server/client arrangement with the only Gentoo install being on the server could be appropriate. - Grant If I had a dozen or so rigs, I would want them to be identical at least as far as mobos and such. Drives and such could vary depending on other things tho. If you use the same USE flags, you could update one and then copy /etc/portage/* to the other rigs then the updates could just be binary installs from the first rig updated. The only thing that might bite you is if you have different uses for each rig. If you have different packages installed, then you may have to compile for that. Most likely tho, you could use binaries for at least the system packages and save some time. I think Alan has some rigs and may be able to share more ideas. Maybe some others could comment that have dealt with the same thing. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems
Grant writes: After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've decided to stick with Gentoo routers. This increases the number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're nearing double-digits. What can be done to make the management of multiple Gentoo systems easier? In the case of editing identical files on different machines (Gentoo or not), I like clusterssh. It opens an xterm for every destination host and an additional command window. What you type here happens in all windows. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com [11-07-03 01:12]: The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is for playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're familiar with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er should look for? - Grant Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? Yep. Unless you have old ATI hardware. Current hardware doesn't work well. Since he wants to buy new stuff, NVidia is recommended. That's what I was afraid of. The fact that Nvidia has stopped making onboard video will pose a problem. I could install an Nvidia video card but I'm trying to keep temps low and I don't want a third fan in the case. - Grant Hi Grant, half a year ago my motherboard lost its blue smoke and I had to buy a new PC (the rest of the old one was outdated). One of my thoughts was: No graphics card with a fan! But the guy in the store said, that graphics cards without a fan has a problem: Either they are to slow (less heat) to be bought by the people or they are fast enough to be bought, but they will die sooner/easier due to a too hot GPU. He gave me a card with fans and said: If you hear something too loud -- bring it back. I tested the card and: Nothing. The only thing I hear is the very quiet fan of the PC case. The card is a: MSI N430GT PCI Express 2.0. It has two fans, which means lesser noise since both fans can run at lower speed. You said, you will not need a gamer graphics card. But if you are a fan of rendering (Blender,Luxrendere etc...) you may consider a card with more muscles since GPU based rendering is the way to go. BUT: When reading the driver informations from nvidia I found that the sections saying Added support for are still missing the GT 430. I dont know whether this has any impact to you work -- the card runs well with Linux and the OpenGL-based Blender does not have any problems (its GPU based render engine is currently under development so I didnt test that...) If you are intereseted in the setup of my PC, post me a mail! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? I use the nouveau drivers with my onboard Nvidia chipset now and they've been fine for the most part. I use a threaded ffmpeg to decode HD video instead of VDPAU so I don't bother with nvidia-drivers. - Grant I don't have any experience with ATI but I still use Nvidia and their drivers. I haven't had any problems as of yet. I did have a video problem once but it was a kernel problem. For me, I see no need in me getting a ATI card. That's just me. Dale I've just read that Nvidia no longer makes onboard video. Has anyone else heard that? Are server motherboard more reliable? - Grant I looked around on newegg and found that there are several mobos that have Nvidia video built in. It seems they do still make them. I'm not sure if the video or mobos are any that you would like but they are being made at least. I bet that's just old stock. I can't find a single motherboard with Nvidia graphics and an AM3+ or FM1 socket on newegg.com. - Grant Me, I tend to buy video cards. They have upgrade options without having to put in a new mobo. YMMV tho. No idea on server boards. I would think they would be more reliable tho. Dale
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [11-07-03 03:08]: Grant wrote: Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? I use the nouveau drivers with my onboard Nvidia chipset now and they've been fine for the most part. I use a threaded ffmpeg to decode HD video instead of VDPAU so I don't bother with nvidia-drivers. - Grant I don't have any experience with ATI but I still use Nvidia and their drivers. I haven't had any problems as of yet. I did have a video problem once but it was a kernel problem. For me, I see no need in me getting a ATI card. That's just me. Dale I've just read that Nvidia no longer makes onboard video. Has anyone else heard that? Are server motherboard more reliable? - Grant I looked around on newegg and found that there are several mobos that have Nvidia video built in. It seems they do still make them. I'm not sure if the video or mobos are any that you would like but they are being made at least. Me, I tend to buy video cards. They have upgrade options without having to put in a new mobo. YMMV tho. No idea on server boards. I would think they would be more reliable tho. Dale :-) :-) I prefer overclocker boards and dont overclock them. Most of them have a better heat dissipation and the PCB has a better layout HF-wise. Only my two cent...you currency may vary ;) Best regards mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
On 07/02/2011 06:26 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Grantemailgr...@gmail.com [11-07-03 01:12]: The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is for playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're familiar with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er should look for? - Grant Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? Yep. Unless you have old ATI hardware. Current hardware doesn't work well. Since he wants to buy new stuff, NVidia is recommended. That's what I was afraid of. The fact that Nvidia has stopped making onboard video will pose a problem. I could install an Nvidia video card but I'm trying to keep temps low and I don't want a third fan in the case. - Grant Hi Grant, half a year ago my motherboard lost its blue smoke and I had to buy a new PC (the rest of the old one was outdated). One of my thoughts was: No graphics card with a fan! But the guy in the store said, that graphics cards without a fan has a problem: Either they are to slow (less heat) to be bought by the people or they are fast enough to be bought, but they will die sooner/easier due to a too hot GPU. He gave me a card with fans and said: If you hear something too loud -- bring it back. I tested the card and: Nothing. The only thing I hear is the very quiet fan of the PC case. The card is a: MSI N430GT PCI Express 2.0. It has two fans, which means lesser noise since both fans can run at lower speed. You said, you will not need a gamer graphics card. But if you are a fan of rendering (Blender,Luxrendere etc...) you may consider a card with more muscles since GPU based rendering is the way to go. BUT: When reading the driver informations from nvidia I found that the sections saying Added support for are still missing the GT 430. I dont know whether this has any impact to you work -- the card runs well with Linux and the OpenGL-based Blender does not have any problems (its GPU based render engine is currently under development so I didnt test that...) If you are intereseted in the setup of my PC, post me a mail! Best regards, mcc Interesting recommendation. Which of the two has a better history of providing good support for linux drivers for their products?
[gentoo-user] smplayer and kmplayer only works (almost) OK as root
Hi, All, I am trying to use smplayer or kmplayer as a regular user. They both don't work: kmplayer keeps saying that it is waiting mplayer buffering and smplayer reports Mplayer has finished unexpectedly. Exit code:1. Running both as root from a terminal, the following message appeared: KGlobal::locale::Warning your global KLocale is being recreated with a valid main component instead of a fake component, this usually means you tried to call i18n related functions before your main component was created. You should not do that since it most likely will not work kmplayer(8687): Session bus not found To circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash) export $(dbus-launch) I did that export while still as root, and then both started to work, so there is no problem with them, but some setting is missing. Additionally, even that export did not work for smplayer/kmplayer as regular user. What should I do next? Where to look at? Thanks a lot Francisco If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com [11-07-03 03:08]: Grant wrote: Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? I use the nouveau drivers with my onboard Nvidia chipset now and they've been fine for the most part. I use a threaded ffmpeg to decode HD video instead of VDPAU so I don't bother with nvidia-drivers. - Grant I don't have any experience with ATI but I still use Nvidia and their drivers. I haven't had any problems as of yet. I did have a video problem once but it was a kernel problem. For me, I see no need in me getting a ATI card. That's just me. Dale I've just read that Nvidia no longer makes onboard video. Has anyone else heard that? Are server motherboard more reliable? - Grant I looked around on newegg and found that there are several mobos that have Nvidia video built in. It seems they do still make them. I'm not sure if the video or mobos are any that you would like but they are being made at least. Me, I tend to buy video cards. They have upgrade options without having to put in a new mobo. YMMV tho. No idea on server boards. I would think they would be more reliable tho. Dale :-) :-) I prefer overclocker boards and dont overclock them. Most of them have a better heat dissipation and the PCB has a better layout HF-wise. Only my two cent...you currency may vary ;) Best regards mcc I have a Cooler Master HAF932 case. Cooling is not a issue here. BTW, I have a Gigabyte board that is overclockable. I have huge heatsinks in case I decide to but mostly just like to keep everything cool. Oh, no water here either. I don't even have drinks around my rig so why put water into it. o_O Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
Grant wrote: I bet that's just old stock. I can't find a single motherboard with Nvidia graphics and an AM3+ or FM1 socket on newegg.com. - Grant I didn't see a AM3+ either. May have to buy a mobo and a separate video card. At least that way, you can get what you really want. This is one reason I buy separate pieces. I don't need a supped up video card but do want a decent mobo. When I buy separately, I can put a little extra into my mobo and save on the card. Of course, my last build has a donated card. Works great for me. Does stumble a little on the very HD video of the Asteroid Galaxy Tour singing the Golden Age tho. Since it does it in the same place and only on the one video, I'm wondering if it was recorded that way somehow. :/ You may want to check pricewatch, tigerdirect and just froogle for a while. Eventually you can narrow down what you are looking for and just find the better deal. It's a plan anyway. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Why does update want to replace ssmtp with courier?
Fortunately, I do emerge -pv... otherwise I wouldn't be able to send this email, asking what the bleep is going on. I'm trying to do a regular update on my desktop and laptop. Apparently the update wants to replace ssmtp with courier on both machines. equery shows courier to be a dependancy for virtual/mta-0 which is a dependancy for virtual/mta. I really don't want/need a full-blown MTA. ssmtp simply pushes email out the door to my ISP, who takes care of it. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
I bet that's just old stock. I can't find a single motherboard with Nvidia graphics and an AM3+ or FM1 socket on newegg.com. - Grant I didn't see a AM3+ either. May have to buy a mobo and a separate video card. At least that way, you can get what you really want. This is one reason I buy separate pieces. I don't need a supped up video card but do want a decent mobo. When I buy separately, I can put a little extra into my mobo and save on the card. Of course, my last build has a donated card. Works great for me. Does stumble a little on the very HD video of the Asteroid Galaxy Tour singing the Golden Age tho. Since it does it in the same place and only on the one video, I'm wondering if it was recorded that way somehow. :/ You may want to check pricewatch, tigerdirect and just froogle for a while. Eventually you can narrow down what you are looking for and just find the better deal. It's a plan anyway. Dale Thanks Dale. I'm reading that onboard ATI graphics are fine if you don't need 3D and can use the open-source driver. I guess I'll give it a try. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Time for hardware upgrade(s)
JD jd1...@gmail.com [11-07-03 05:57]: On 07/02/2011 06:26 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Grantemailgr...@gmail.com [11-07-03 01:12]: The most important thing is reliability and Linux compatibility but I also need HDMI and I figure USB 3.0 is a good idea. The system is for playing music and movies, no gaming whatsoever. If you're familiar with the current hardware scene, where would you go from here as far as a motherboard and other components? Any features a Gentoo'er should look for? - Grant Is Nvidia still the way to go instead of ATI? Yep. Unless you have old ATI hardware. Current hardware doesn't work well. Since he wants to buy new stuff, NVidia is recommended. That's what I was afraid of. The fact that Nvidia has stopped making onboard video will pose a problem. I could install an Nvidia video card but I'm trying to keep temps low and I don't want a third fan in the case. - Grant Hi Grant, half a year ago my motherboard lost its blue smoke and I had to buy a new PC (the rest of the old one was outdated). One of my thoughts was: No graphics card with a fan! But the guy in the store said, that graphics cards without a fan has a problem: Either they are to slow (less heat) to be bought by the people or they are fast enough to be bought, but they will die sooner/easier due to a too hot GPU. He gave me a card with fans and said: If you hear something too loud -- bring it back. I tested the card and: Nothing. The only thing I hear is the very quiet fan of the PC case. The card is a: MSI N430GT PCI Express 2.0. It has two fans, which means lesser noise since both fans can run at lower speed. You said, you will not need a gamer graphics card. But if you are a fan of rendering (Blender,Luxrendere etc...) you may consider a card with more muscles since GPU based rendering is the way to go. BUT: When reading the driver informations from nvidia I found that the sections saying Added support for are still missing the GT 430. I dont know whether this has any impact to you work -- the card runs well with Linux and the OpenGL-based Blender does not have any problems (its GPU based render engine is currently under development so I didnt test that...) If you are intereseted in the setup of my PC, post me a mail! Best regards, mcc Interesting recommendation. Which of the two has a better history of providing good support for linux drivers for their products? ...?... Oh, I fear, once again my English damaged what I want to say... NVidia produces the chipsets but dont build graphics cards. They only make a reference board and offer that for $$$ to manufacturers. MSI is one of them. The MSI-card I use is a 100% NVidia card. It runs to 100% with the original genuine nvidia-drivers. And on the boards are the original NVidia GPUs. GT 430 is the name of the GPU family. Or...what was the question? :) 8) ;) Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does update want to replace ssmtp with courier?
On Saturday, July 2 at 23:15 (-0400), Walter Dnes said: Fortunately, I do emerge -pv... otherwise I wouldn't be able to send this email, asking what the bleep is going on. I'm trying to do a regular update on my desktop and laptop. Apparently the update wants to replace ssmtp with courier on both machines. equery shows courier to be a dependancy for virtual/mta-0 which is a dependancy for virtual/mta. I really don't want/need a full-blown MTA. ssmtp simply pushes email out the door to my ISP, who takes care of it. ssmtp has an mta USE flag.. I guess this just made it to stable (has been in testing for a while now). Anyway ssmtp only satisfies virtual/mta with that flag set. So you should be able to simply set it and remerge ssmtp.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does update want to replace ssmtp with courier?
On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 11:15:04PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote Fortunately, I do emerge -pv... otherwise I wouldn't be able to send this email, asking what the bleep is going on. I'm trying to do a regular update on my desktop and laptop. Apparently the update wants to replace ssmtp with courier on both machines. equery shows courier to be a dependancy for virtual/mta-0 which is a dependancy for virtual/mta. I really don't want/need a full-blown MTA. ssmtp simply pushes email out the door to my ISP, who takes care of it. Here's a temporary workaround... [i3][root][~] cat /etc/portage/profile/package.provided mail-mta/courier-0.65.2-r1 Definitely fewer packages to be emerged, because courier is not pulling in its dependancies. But I'd still like a better answer. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] [OT] Difficulties to use scripts from openbox menu.xml
Hi, a weird problem hit me... ;) I have a script, which cd into a certain directory and starts a program from there with ./program. This scripts works fine from the commandline. But when I use the same script inside the ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml, I does not work: No program start. My setup: recent Gentoo X11 Slim openbox mrxvt What do I have to change to make this working? Best regards, mcc
