[gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 08/03/12 04:57, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

It came to my attention that during (after) an emerge run, df reports
considerably less space available on my / than before the emerge (everything
except /home sits on the root partition). I was wondering how this comes to
be, since I have /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs.

I am in the middle of a KDE upgrade (4.8.0→4.8.1) right now and before I
started, I downloaded all distfiles and then looked at df /, it showed 1022
blocks, hence about 1 GB of free disk space. I am at package 115 out of 174
right now, and df shows a mere 389k blocks remaining.


That's because the old files are not being deleted since they are in 
use.  When you logout of KDE and restart the whole stack 
(/etc/init.d/xdm restart) then everything will be back to normal.


Or simply reboot.




Re: [gentoo-user] Clone live system as a simple backup?

2012-03-08 Thread YoYo Siska
On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 02:47:08PM -0500, Joshua Murphy wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:55 AM,  gand...@d-danks.co.uk wrote:
  Hi,
     I'm interested in the idea of cloning a live, complicated hardware
  system onto a single external hard drive as a simple backup. I would
  like this external drive to be completely bootable. What's the best
  way to approach doing this? I was considering just doing a Gentoo
  install from scratch but figured maybe there's a way to clone enough
  of the live system to get me there less painfully?
 
     The system I'm playing with has five 500MB hard drives with most
  partitions in linked together in various forms of RAID. (1, 5  6)
  That said, the total storage that this system presents KDE and the
  users is about 600GB.
 
     I have an external 1TB eSATA drive which is therefore large enough
  to hold everything on this system, albeit without the reliability of
  RAID which is fine for this purpose.
 
     The system looks more or less like:
 
  /dev/sda1 - /boot (50MB)
  /dev/sdb1 - /boot copy
  /dev/sdc1 - /boot copy
 
  c2stable ~ # df
  Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
  rootfs          51612920  31862844  17128276  66% /
  /dev/root       51612920  31862844  17128276  66% /
  rc-svcdir           1024        92       932   9% /lib64/rc/init.d
  udev               10240       476      9764   5% /dev
  shm              6151284         0   6151284   0% /dev/shm
  /dev/md7       389183252 350247628  19166232  95% /VirtualMachines
  tmpfs            8388608         0   8388608   0% /var/tmp/portage
  /dev/sda1          54416     29516     22091  58% /boot
  c2stable ~ # cat /proc/mdstat
  Personalities : [linear] [raid0] [raid1] [raid10] [raid6] [raid5]
  [raid4]
  md6 : active raid5 sdb6[1] sdc6[2] sda6[0]
        494833664 blocks super 1.1 level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [3/3]
  [UUU]
 
  md7 : active raid6 sdb7[1] sdc7[2] sda7[0] sdd2[3] sde2[4]
        395387904 blocks super 1.2 level 6, 16k chunk, algorithm 2 [5/5]
  [U]
 
  md3 : active raid6 sdb3[1] sdc3[2] sda3[0] sdd3[3] sde3[4]
        157305168 blocks super 1.2 level 6, 16k chunk, algorithm 2 [5/5]
  [U]
 
  md126 : active raid1 sdc5[2] sda5[0] sdb5[1]
        52436032 blocks [3/3] [UUU]
 
  unused devices: none
  c2stable ~ #
 
     /dev/md3 is a second Gentoo installation that doesn't need to be
  backed up at this time. md6 is an internal RAID used to back up md7
  daily. It doesn't need to be backed up, but if the machine totally
  failed killing all the drives that wouldn't survive so currently I
  back up md126 to md6 daily, and then back up md6 weekly to an external
  eSATA drive.
 
     What I'd like to do is clone
 
  1) /boot (sda1) including grub and everything required to make it bootable
  2) back up the system portions of dev/md126 (/ )
  3) Add some swap space on the external drive
  4) back up /dev/md7 which is all of my VMs
  5) back up /home to a separate partition on the external drive
  6) back up some special things like /var/lib/portage/world and
  /usr/portage/packages
 
  My thought is that this drive is basically bootable, but over time
  gets out-of-sync with the system. However should the system fail I've
  got a bootable external drive with all the binary packages required to
  get it running again quickly. However I can always boot the drive, do
  an emerge -ek @world, and basically be back to where I am as of the
  last backup.
 
  The external drive will look something like:
 
  /dev/sdg1 - /boot
  /dev/sdg2 - swap
  /dev/sdg3 - / (not including /home, /usr/portage/distfiles, etc)
  /dev/sdg5 - /usr/portage/packages
  /dev/sdg6 - /dev/md7
 
  etc
 
     I will of course have to modify grub.conf and /etc/fstab to work
  from this drive but that's no big deal.
 
     What are folks best ideas about how to approach doing something like
  this?
 
  Thanks,
  Mark
 
 
  Hi,
     Why don't you something like bind mount the folders you want to copy
  and rsync them to the eSATA disk, after creating a similar partition
  layout on it. Remember to exclude system files like /proc/*, /dev/*
  and /sys/* as well as the ones you want to exclude yourself from the
  rsync. When you want to sync the clone again just do the same again
  and rsync the changes.
 
  Regards,
  Derek
 
 
 
 As an added note on this, rsync's --one-file-system (-x) flag is handy
 for avoiding grabbing unneeded things, but will typically leave you
 without the base few device nodes needed to boot the backup, those can
 either be grabbed from a stage3, or created with (courtesy of Linux
 From Scratch's section 6.2.1. Creating Initial Device Nodes):
 
 mknod -m 600 ${backup}/dev/console c 5 1
 mknod -m 666 ${backup}/dev/null c 1 3

The best way to copy a filesystem without any sub-mounts is to
mount-bind it to some directory and copy it from there:

mkdir /tmp/root
mount --bind / /tmp/root
rsync -a /tmp/root/ /mnt/backup/

Note that copying a rw filesystem (especially /) on a 

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] FOSS history books

2012-03-08 Thread Claudio Roberto França Pereira
2012/3/7 Andrés Becerra Sandoval andres.bece...@gmail.com:
 All of these are not entirely historical:

 - Hackers, heroes of the computer revolution, Steven Levy
 - Open Advice, Lydia Pintscher
 - Two Bits. The  Cultural Significance of Free Software, Kelty
 - The Power of Open, Creative Commons
 - The Success of Open Source. Steven Weber
 - Perspectives on Open Source Software,
 http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?tid=10477ttype=2


Thank you, I'll make sure to take note on these and look up after Rebel Code.


 --
   Andrés Becerra Sandoval





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-08 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 12:50:40PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 08/03/12 04:57, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
  It came to my attention that during (after) an emerge run, df reports
  considerably less space available on my / than before the emerge (everything
  except /home sits on the root partition). I was wondering how this comes to
  be, since I have /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs.
 
  I am in the middle of a KDE upgrade (4.8.0→4.8.1) right now and before I
  started, I downloaded all distfiles and then looked at df /, it showed 1022
  blocks, hence about 1 GB of free disk space. I am at package 115 out of 174
  right now, and df shows a mere 389k blocks remaining.
 
 That's because the old files are not being deleted since they are in 
 use.  When you logout of KDE and restart the whole stack 
 (/etc/init.d/xdm restart) then everything will be back to normal.

By jove, that's definitely it. I knew about this fact from other use cases
(like deleting a video file which I'm still watching. HA, do that, Windows!),
but never thought of it regarding emerging. I always assumed for some reason
that the files were kept in RAM and the physical file itself was no longer
relevant. Just closing all programs before logging out gave back around 350 M.

And yes, I had a typo in the original mail; instead of 1000 blocks I meant
1000k Blocks. And also yes, I already knew about eclean-dist. I even wrote a
counterpart for Debian which deletes all .debs that aren't installed anymore,
but keeps all the rest. Anyway, after the reboot I now have 1059k blocks free.
:)
-- 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 08/03/12 16:55, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 12:50:40PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 08/03/12 04:57, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

It came to my attention that during (after) an emerge run, df reports
considerably less space available on my / than before the emerge


That's because the old files are not being deleted since they are in
use.  When you logout of KDE and restart the whole stack
(/etc/init.d/xdm restart) then everything will be back to normal.


By jove, that's definitely it. I knew about this fact from other use cases
(like deleting a video file which I'm still watching. HA, do that, Windows!),
but never thought of it regarding emerging. I always assumed for some reason
that the files were kept in RAM and the physical file itself was no longer
relevant. Just closing all programs before logging out gave back around 350 M.


I discovered this nifty little tool recently that tells you if any 
deleted files are currently being kept open by running processes: 
app-admin/checkrestart.  I usually run it after world updates so I can 
tell whether I need a restart or not.






Re: [gentoo-user] LVM: Removing 3 disks and replacing with 1

2012-03-08 Thread Datty
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 09:03:36AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 00:46:17 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 
A consultant is a person who borrows your watch, tells you what time
it is, pockets the watch, and sends you a bill for it.

 Ah thanks for the notice, another nice catch for my signature database. :)

  [...]
  Neil Bothwick
 
  Would a fly without wings be called a walk?

 What do you call a dead bee? - A was.
 *scnr*


Thanks for the replies everyone, to give it a bit more info, its just a big
dump of data but I want to get the old drives out before they die and lose
everything (They're hitting 20,000 hours up time). Before now i'd been
replacing the whole array and literally using cp as mentioned but I can't
afford to do that this time thanks to the price of hard drives. The LVM is
just one big volume group with one big logical volume with xfs slapped on
top covering the whole thing, I set it up so I could just add drives as and
when and expand the filesystem. As far as I understand I'm pretty stuck in
this situation as I believe XFS partitions can't be shrunk only enlarged?
Based on your replies it looks like pvmove is going to be the way forward,
it'll be offline while its being done anyway as I dont have enough sata
ports to plug the new drive in whilst the old 3 are connected (going to
have to pull the OS drive and do the pvmove from sysrescuecd). The other
option of creating a new volume and moving the data to it can't happen
because theres a good 6tb of data on it and I only have a new 3tb going in.

Should it just be a case of adding the new drive as a pv to the volume
group then doing pvmove against one drive at a time and thus removing them
from the volume group?

Thanks again for the replies and I'll give pvmove a go when the drive
arrives.


Re: [gentoo-user] LVM: Removing 3 disks and replacing with 1

2012-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 16:39:11 +, Datty wrote:

 Should it just be a case of adding the new drive as a pv to the volume
 group then doing pvmove against one drive at a time and thus removing
 them from the volume group?

Yes, and once you've done the first you can replace it with your system
drive start using it again.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Beware of cover disks bearing upgrades.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Clone live system as a simple backup?

2012-03-08 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Mar 8, 2012 2:50 AM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote:


 8 snip


 As an added note on this, rsync's --one-file-system (-x) flag is handy
 for avoiding grabbing unneeded things, but will typically leave you
 without the base few device nodes needed to boot the backup, those can
 either be grabbed from a stage3, or created with (courtesy of Linux
 From Scratch's section 6.2.1. Creating Initial Device Nodes):

 mknod -m 600 ${backup}/dev/console c 5 1
 mknod -m 666 ${backup}/dev/null c 1 3


... or just add another rsync invocation to backup /dev ...

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] Clone live system as a simple backup?

2012-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:52:53 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:

  As an added note on this, rsync's --one-file-system (-x) flag is handy
  for avoiding grabbing unneeded things, but will typically leave you
  without the base few device nodes needed to boot the backup, those can
  either be grabbed from a stage3, or created with (courtesy of Linux
  From Scratch's section 6.2.1. Creating Initial Device Nodes):
 
  mknod -m 600 ${backup}/dev/console c 5 1
  mknod -m 666 ${backup}/dev/null c 1 3
   
 
 ... or just add another rsync invocation to backup /dev ...

That won't work because it will backup the full devfs mounted on /dev,
not the files that exist in the directory itself.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?


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Re: [gentoo-user] tracking IT work

2012-03-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2012-03-07 07:12, schrieb Bryan Gardiner:
 On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 07:38:08 +0700
 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
 
 On Mar 7, 2012 6:07 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:

 Am 06.03.2012 21:32, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 The gnome hamster applet would be helpful if it worked against a
 DB somewhere ... have it on the desktop and the thinkpad and just
 press the shortkey 

 gotta check how it works with gnome3 now.

 The dev has some work done for an extension for gnome shell:

 https://github.com/tbaugis/hamster-shell-extension

 Something for my todo-list. If I had some ;-)

 S


 Most important IMO is the capability to expert as CSV; then you can
 slice and dice it every which way you want :-)

 Rgds,
 
 I'm going to throw out that org-mode is also excellent for tossing
 around notes, scheduling, and time-tracking, though my experience
 with the time-tracking portion of it is limited so I'm not sure how
 well that would serve you.
 
 And it's all just text(TM) with a nice simple syntax.  Definitely worth
 a look if Emacs is your editor of choice.

oh, sorry, vi(m) here :-P

thanks, S




Re: [gentoo-user] Photo management programs

2012-03-08 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 11:04:47AM -0600, Dale wrote:

 It is a nice program and I'm pretty sure it allows you to download from
 your card too.  I'm not sure gtkam will allow downloads from the card so
 you are likely headed down the right road.
 Honestly, if digikam worked right with my camera, I'd use it in a heart
 beat.  I like it but I can't get my pics to show up right.
 --^
 Since your spelling is not always 100% precise ;-) do you really mean show up
 right, or do you mean show upright? The latter is a question of support by
 your camera.


Meant as written, this time.  lol  I think I explained this a bit more
in another post.  My camera has a separate directory for each day.
Digikam doesn't seem to show them correctly.  Some images don't show up
at all and others show up twice or even more than twice.  I think it
looks for just one directory but I'm not sure.


 
 But why bother with it a special download function in the first place? Most
 cameras support standard USB mass storage protocol, so if you set your camera
 to it and plug it in via USB, it shows up as a normal mass storage device.
 Digikam then recognises the folder structure on it and allows you to download
 the images.
 
 I'm still more old school -- I copy the images over from the card using
 $filemanager and then import them selectively into my digikam collection,
 which allows me to keep it clean more easily.
 
 Digikam is a really great management application. I've been using it since KDE
 3 times. Its strong points are tagging and organising, and subsequent
 rediscovery by tags and descriptions you assign to a photo. And though I
 myself haven't used it much yet apart from a few select features, it has a
 nice editing program, too.


As I said, digikam is a nice program.  I'm not saying it isn't for sure.
 It is a bit much for me tho since I already have a way of managing my
pics.  I could use digikam but I already have a system that does what it
does without all the fancy stuff.

As to why I use gtkam.  I use it because it renames the pics as it
copies and puts them in sequence. Not only do I sort them by directories
but I also give them names that helps sort them too.  If I just copy
files the camera has, I end up with a lot of files out of order and
possible duplicates and such.

Of course, now I have gtkam working without crashing, so far anyway.

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
how you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n



Re: [gentoo-user] Clone live system as a simple backup?

2012-03-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:52:53 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:

  As an added note on this, rsync's --one-file-system (-x) flag is handy
  for avoiding grabbing unneeded things, but will typically leave you
  without the base few device nodes needed to boot the backup, those can
  either be grabbed from a stage3, or created with (courtesy of Linux
  From Scratch's section 6.2.1. Creating Initial Device Nodes):
 
  mknod -m 600 ${backup}/dev/console c 5 1
  mknod -m 666 ${backup}/dev/null c 1 3
 

 ... or just add another rsync invocation to backup /dev ...

 That won't work because it will backup the full devfs mounted on /dev,
 not the files that exist in the directory itself.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?

Thanks for all the ideas. As I've not done this sort of thing before
every one of them has been worth my time thinking about.

I ended up going a slightly different direction, only made possible by
how little disk space costs these days. Here's what I did:

1) As a chroot, on the live system I created a new Gentoo install.
This is just a very basic single disk partition type install as per
the Gentoo install guide. No apps, no KDE, nothing. Just the basic
stuff.

2) Once that install was up  running I copied the server's world
file, /etc/portage/package.*, /etc/conf.d, /etc/X/xorg.conf  a few
other things into this new install and ran emerge -ek @world to get it
up and running.

3) When all of that was complete and functioning, at least in the
chroot, I then took the chroot offline and used rsync to get the
chroot installed copied to  the external drive.

4) WIth the rsync complete I then took a cut at modifying /etc/fstab
to be correct for booting from the external drive. Not sure about this
step at this time as I don't know for sure how the machine will name
the external drive.

I'm now looking to get /boot copied to the external drive, get grub
installed, and then see if I can boot using that drive.

Again, thanks for the ideas and keep 'em coming if you have more.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Clone live system as a simple backup?

2012-03-08 Thread Brian Wiborg
On 03/06/12 at 11:51AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
What are folks best ideas about how to approach doing something like this?

Simple answer:
Just use ReaR [1], it is even provided in sunrise [2]

Regards,
bacce

[1] http://rear.sourceforge.net/
[2] http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/browser/sunrise/app-backup/rear



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 17:56:18 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:

 On 08/03/12 16:55, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 12:50:40PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  On 08/03/12 04:57, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
  It came to my attention that during (after) an emerge run, df
  reports considerably less space available on my / than before the
  emerge
 
  That's because the old files are not being deleted since they are
  in use.  When you logout of KDE and restart the whole stack
  (/etc/init.d/xdm restart) then everything will be back to normal.
 
  By jove, that's definitely it. I knew about this fact from other
  use cases (like deleting a video file which I'm still watching. HA,
  do that, Windows!), but never thought of it regarding emerging. I
  always assumed for some reason that the files were kept in RAM and
  the physical file itself was no longer relevant. Just closing all
  programs before logging out gave back around 350 M.
 
 I discovered this nifty little tool recently that tells you if any 
 deleted files are currently being kept open by running processes: 
 app-admin/checkrestart.  I usually run it after world updates so I
 can tell whether I need a restart or not.
 
 
 

Why go to the effor tof emerging another package? Use what you already
have:

lsof | egrep '(deleted)$'

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-08 Thread walt
On 03/08/2012 12:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 lsof | egrep '(deleted)$'

From 'man grep':

Direct invocation as either egrep or fgrep is deprecated, but is
 provided to allow historical applications that rely on them to
 run unmodified.

Seems you've been promoted to the rank of Historical Application.

Congratulations, and a very warm welcome to the club  :)





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 15:42:47 -0800
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/08/2012 12:01 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
  lsof | egrep '(deleted)$'
 
 From 'man grep':
 
 Direct invocation as either egrep or fgrep is deprecated, but is
  provided to allow historical applications that rely on them to
  run unmodified.

Deprecated by whom exactly? In the opinion of the developer?

I strongly suspect that 1000s of sysadmins the world over are screaming
in horror and telling the deprecator to shove off right about now...

 Seems you've been promoted to the rank of Historical Application.
 
 Congratulations, and a very warm welcome to the club  :)

Thank you very much!

I'll wear that badge with pride, right next to my Pedantic
Old Fart label. And I dare say our very own Mr Bothwick will be
standing right next to me :-) 




-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:05:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  Seems you've been promoted to the rank of Historical Application.
  
  Congratulations, and a very warm welcome to the club  :)  
 
 Thank you very much!
 
 I'll wear that badge with pride, right next to my Pedantic
 Old Fart label. And I dare say our very own Mr Bothwick will be
 standing right next to me :-) 

I prefer to sit these days, thank you :)


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 22:01:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  I discovered this nifty little tool recently that tells you if any 
  deleted files are currently being kept open by running processes: 
  app-admin/checkrestart.  I usually run it after world updates so I
  can tell whether I need a restart or not.

 Why go to the effor tof emerging another package? Use what you already
 have:
 
 lsof | egrep '(deleted)$'

Unless you already have checkrestart installed for its intended use, it's
a lot better than grep for that.

I hadn't thought of using it for this, nice idea.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.


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[gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Grant
Can anyone recommend a photo browser/viewer other than gthumb which is
in portage or an overlay?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Fri 09 Mar 2012 07:50:24 AM IST, Grant wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a photo browser/viewer other than gthumb which is
 in portage or an overlay?

 - Grant


gwenview. Part of KDE suite and depends on KDE libraries. Also, F-Spot 
(It's a photo manager I guess).

-- 
Nilesh Govindarajan
http://nileshgr.com



Re: [gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Michael Mol
I typically use geeqie.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a photo browser/viewer other than gthumb which is
 in portage or an overlay?

 - Grant




-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Daddy



On March 8, 2012 at 9:20 PM Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone recommend a photo browser/viewer other than gthumb which is
 in portage or an overlay?

 - Grant


media-gfx/gqview

Re: [gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:



 On March 8, 2012 at 9:20 PM Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone recommend a photo browser/viewer other than gthumb which is
 in portage or an overlay?

 - Grant


 media-gfx/gqview

gqview became geeqie, FWIW. I don't recall the full story, but IIRC,
gqview stagnated, and geeqie is a fork.

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Philip Webb
120308 Grant wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a photo browser/viewer other than gthumb
 which is in portage or an overlay?

I use Gwenview to review collections  Feh to browse from a terminal:
I've used them a long time  strongly recommend both;
if you're allergic to KDE, Geeqie mb a useable alternative.

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Re: [gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Daddy
On March 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Daddy da...@happypenguincomputers.com
wrote:
 
 
 
  On March 8, 2012 at 9:20 PM Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Can anyone recommend a photo browser/viewer other than gthumb which is
  in portage or an overlay?
 
  - Grant
 
 
  media-gfx/gqview

 gqview became geeqie, FWIW. I don't recall the full story, but IIRC,
 gqview stagnated, and geeqie is a fork.

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 :wq


Thanks ... I'm an old CLI dinosaur and display has been working for me fine
for so many years. Something recently changed where it's not going from one
file to the next in a directory. Also, there was something else I used to
generate thumbnails, but I forgot. Just emerge geeqie ... btw ... gqview
was just recommended to me 2 days ago in #gentoo ;)


Re: [gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Daddy





On March 8, 2012 at 10:38 PM Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:

 120308 Grant wrote:
  Can anyone recommend a photo browser/viewer other than gthumb
  which is in portage or an overlay?

 I use Gwenview to review collections  Feh to browse from a terminal:
 I've used them a long time  strongly recommend both;
 if you're allergic to KDE, Geeqie mb a useable alternative.



Yeah, that was it ... feh



mingdao@t420 ~ $ grep feh good_commands  feh -t -Sfilename -E 128 -y 128 -W
1024 *



Now to figure out how to keep that page of thumbnails from overflowing my
1600x900 Fluxbox desktop.

Re: [gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Philip Webb
120308 Daddy wrote:
 On March 8, 2012 at 10:38 PM Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:
 I use Gwenview to review collections  Feh to browse from a terminal:
 Yeah, that was it ... feh.  Now to figure out how to keep
 that page of thumbnails from overflowing my 1600x900 Fluxbox desktop.

I have a Bash alias :  alias feht='feh -td -E 150 -y 150 -W 1800' ;
'feh filespec' shows a slideshow of successive pictures,
while 'feht filespec' shows an array of thumbnails inside the screen.

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Re: [gentoo-user] photo viewer other than gthumb?

2012-03-08 Thread Bryan Gardiner
On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 07:52:38 +0530
Nilesh Govindrajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:

 On Fri 09 Mar 2012 07:50:24 AM IST, Grant wrote:
  Can anyone recommend a photo browser/viewer other than gthumb which
  is in portage or an overlay?
 
  - Grant
 
 
 gwenview. Part of KDE suite and depends on KDE libraries. Also,
 F-Spot (It's a photo manager I guess).
 

Here's another vote for Gwenview...  Once it's set up to have all of
Gthumb's keyboard shortcuts ;).

- Bryan



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk usage during emerge

2012-03-08 Thread Bryan Gardiner
On Thu, 08 Mar 2012 17:56:18 +0200
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:

 I discovered this nifty little tool recently that tells you if any 
 deleted files are currently being kept open by running processes: 
 app-admin/checkrestart.  I usually run it after world updates so I
 can tell whether I need a restart or not.

Because I'm too lazy to unkeyword and emerge it...  Does this program
show how much space is being used by deleted files?  Or, is there a way
to access more information about or even recover such a zombie file?
lsof gives its inode number, but I have no idea how to access it from
there.

- Bryan