Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
There are.many good docs on the web about it. Yes much of this is just resistance to change. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Sebastian Pipping wrote: Hello, On 07/05/2012 08:28 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-07-05, James wrote: >> Has anyone seen/tried this guide? >> >> http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/docs/grub2-migration.xml >> >> The devs seem to be moving along with migration to grub2. >> >> as evidence in the gentoo-dev thread. I curious if folks are going to >> follow the docs, or are we each going to wing out way to grub2 with >> the legacy installs of gentoo? > > I plan on dragging my feet for as long as possible, and won't switch > until I'm forced to. And by "forced to" I mean that grub-legacy > simply won't work anymore -- regardless of whether there's a Gentoo > package for it or not. a few weeks ago I was one of those people about to stay away from GRUB 2 as long as possible. What I didn't know is that part of what I knew and disliked about GRUB 2 was (only) specific to Debian, the fact that you no longer edit /etc/grub/grub.cfg directly: you edit parts that are combined for you. Short version: if it's fear of the unknown with you too, I recommend getting to know that beast a little better. You'll either end up with many good arguments against it or find out that it's better than you expected in the beginning. My guess is the latter. Anyway. Give it a try. Best, Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
Plus you don't technically need a menu at all. You can.use the grub cli to boot whichever partitions you have mind to. Terry Peter Humphrey wrote: >On Friday 06 July 2012 01:18:42 Dale wrote: > >> But if you try to boot and the grub menu doesn't come up at all, then >> what? You can't select to boot anything including the rescue system. > >Yet to happen, but if it did I'd have to boot a rescue CD, mount the >rescue system and chroot to it, rerun grub and reboot. Doesn't sound >like much of a problem to me. > >> I want to be able to fix whatever happens. Grub has been good to me >> so far but I have had a time when after the BIOS was done, I got >> nothing, nothing at all. That would be something I would want to >> know how to fix since I can't even boot to get help or search >> google. If it isn't between my ears, I'm toast. Right now, there >> is very little grub2 between my ears. Sometimes there is very >> little at all between my ears. lol > >Not sure what we're arguing about here. My method suits me, yours you. >:-) > >-- >Rgds >Peter -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
[gentoo-user] Distorted Mirroed Overlapping screen with ATI Rage card
**This is what my laptop's screen with a newly installed Gentoo system running twm to test X looks like (attached image). It's distorted with overlapping and mirrored image. I have a Dell Latitude C800 with the video card. http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/qq4qz9jf/0705122206.jpg 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Rage Mobility M4 AGP [1002:4d46] Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:00a3] Kernel driver in use: aty128fb Yes, I have compiled the r128 driver directly into the kernel. Various people around the internet had posted xorg.conf that was supposed "ati" as the driver. I do not have that driver. I substituted in the same xorg.conf with r128, and I still had the same issue. I tried with no xorg.conf (the default), and I couldn't startx, errored and crashed. I had also tried X -configure and had the same distorted screen. I know it is possible to get this working just fine. I had it working just fine in Arch Linux with r128. I really don't want to go back to using Arch. I already used fdisk on it to install this new Gentoo system. Christopher Lemire Ubuntu 64 bit Linux Raid Level 0 Gnu Privacy Guard Key Fingerprint = 3E1A 9103 EF3D 4885 6866 E9DE C69F 18B3 E13B 0909 Web: http://linuxinnovations.blogspot.com Jabber: recursivequicks...@jabber.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 20:34:12 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > Replying on Kindle. Short suggestion is recreate > /var/lib/portage/world by hand by adding what you know you want > installed. AFAIK, Gentoo does not have a script or an option to back up the world file and other associated files. After I finish even a small update, I will run my own script to copy /var/lib/portage and /var/db/pkg to another drive for safekeeping. There may not be much point in doing so. If my main HDD fails I will have to reinstall the entire OS, but just in case of some freak accident that may affect the world file I will make the backup. My whole system I will backup once a week, and all very important new data will be backed up (almost) immediately. Frank Peters
Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list
Replying on Kindle. Short suggestion is recreate /var/lib/portage/world by hand by adding what you know you want installed. Good luck, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 08:41 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > Hi, > I yesterday got a ssd to replace my kaput hdd which had no data but > os. > Apparently something went wrong while migration, and now everything > disappeared in portage's world list. > > So whenever I run depclean it tries to remove all packages. How to fix > this? > > I don't have data on original hdd now, zeroed it. > troll ~ # regenworld --help This script regenerates the portage world file by checking the portage logfile for all actions that you've done in the past. It ignores any arguments except --help. It is recommended that you make a backup of your existing world file (/var/lib/portage/world) before using this tool. troll ~ #
[gentoo-user] Everything disappeared from world list
Hi, I yesterday got a ssd to replace my kaput hdd which had no data but os. Apparently something went wrong while migration, and now everything disappeared in portage's world list. So whenever I run depclean it tries to remove all packages. How to fix this? I don't have data on original hdd now, zeroed it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 06 July 2012 01:18:42 Dale wrote: > >> But if you try to boot and the grub menu doesn't come up at all, then >> what? You can't select to boot anything including the rescue system. > Yet to happen, but if it did I'd have to boot a rescue CD, mount the > rescue system and chroot to it, rerun grub and reboot. Doesn't sound > like much of a problem to me. It would be for me. I have my system partitioned out pretty well. Since so much stuff has moved to /usr, that means I would have to mount basically every partition I have. It's not a problem but as I mentioned, it is a pain in the butt. It's also something I would like to avoid if possible. That is why I, likely others too, want more info and docs so that we can rescue ourselves. > >> I want to be able to fix whatever happens. Grub has been good to me >> so far but I have had a time when after the BIOS was done, I got >> nothing, nothing at all. That would be something I would want to >> know how to fix since I can't even boot to get help or search >> google. If it isn't between my ears, I'm toast. Right now, there >> is very little grub2 between my ears. Sometimes there is very >> little at all between my ears. lol > Not sure what we're arguing about here. My method suits me, yours you. > :-) > Not arguing, just pointing out that things can and do fail and that having good plans before it happens is a good idea. Something that hal taught me in a quick hurry. Just because something works for most people doesn't mean we shouldn't plan for a problem. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
On Friday 06 July 2012 01:18:42 Dale wrote: > But if you try to boot and the grub menu doesn't come up at all, then > what? You can't select to boot anything including the rescue system. Yet to happen, but if it did I'd have to boot a rescue CD, mount the rescue system and chroot to it, rerun grub and reboot. Doesn't sound like much of a problem to me. > I want to be able to fix whatever happens. Grub has been good to me > so far but I have had a time when after the BIOS was done, I got > nothing, nothing at all. That would be something I would want to > know how to fix since I can't even boot to get help or search > google. If it isn't between my ears, I'm toast. Right now, there > is very little grub2 between my ears. Sometimes there is very > little at all between my ears. lol Not sure what we're arguing about here. My method suits me, yours you. :-) -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
walt wrote: > On 07/05/2012 04:20 PM, Dale wrote: > >> I'm waiting on new/more docs myself. I want to know not only how to >> upgrade but how to fix if it pukes on my keyboard. Hopefully other than >> chroot'in in and all. > There are basically only two ways that grub2 or grub1 can fail: > > First, you reboot and you don't even see a grub prompt because > the grub part of your boot sector is broken in some way. I think > the only practical way is to reinstall grub to the boot sector > of your boot disk, which probably involves booting from another > medium like a rescue CD, etc. > > Second, you reboot and see a valid grub shell prompt but your > list of boot selections is missing for some reason. > > In that case I've been able to bail out very simply by typing > various grub shell commands until I re-discover the right disk > in case the BIOS disk numbering has changed for some reason. > > You do have to know the grub shell commands pretty well to get > away with that, though. The way to learn them is to hit 'c' > at the grub menu to drop into the grub shell mode and keep > hitting 'tab' to see a list of available commands wherever > you happen to be at the time. Just like legacy grub. > > > > The way it broke for me was when I updated grub but didn't update the MBR. I found that out after I rebooted. It was in one of those ewarn messages thingys. It's nice to see those after the fact tho. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
On 07/05/2012 04:20 PM, Dale wrote: > > I'm waiting on new/more docs myself. I want to know not only how to > upgrade but how to fix if it pukes on my keyboard. Hopefully other than > chroot'in in and all. There are basically only two ways that grub2 or grub1 can fail: First, you reboot and you don't even see a grub prompt because the grub part of your boot sector is broken in some way. I think the only practical way is to reinstall grub to the boot sector of your boot disk, which probably involves booting from another medium like a rescue CD, etc. Second, you reboot and see a valid grub shell prompt but your list of boot selections is missing for some reason. In that case I've been able to bail out very simply by typing various grub shell commands until I re-discover the right disk in case the BIOS disk numbering has changed for some reason. You do have to know the grub shell commands pretty well to get away with that, though. The way to learn them is to hit 'c' at the grub menu to drop into the grub shell mode and keep hitting 'tab' to see a list of available commands wherever you happen to be at the time. Just like legacy grub.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >>> I'm waiting on new/more docs myself. I want to know not only how to >>> upgrade but how to fix if it pukes on my keyboard. Hopefully other >>> than chroot'in in and all. I have a lot of partitions and they are >>> on LVM right now. That chroot'in is a pain in the butt. Oh, LOTS >>> of stuff in /usr too so it has to be mounted for you to fix grub. >> I have what seems to be an unusual solution of that problem. Each of my >> boxes has a small, bootable rescue system in its own partition, and of >> course its own entry in grub.conf. Its fstab defines all the main-system >> partitions so I only have to mount them. Chrooting is as painless as it >> can be. >> >> Recently, since I've banished ~amd64 except in a few cases, I've only >> used any of the rescue systems for backing up its main system to a USB >> drive. >> > > But if you try to boot and the grub menu doesn't come up at all, then > what? You can't select to boot anything including the rescue system. > > I want to be able to fix whatever happens. Grub has been good to me so > far but I have had a time when after the BIOS was done, I got nothing, > nothing at all. That would be something I would want to know how to fix > since I can't even boot to get help or search google. If it isn't > between my ears, I'm toast. Right now, there is very little grub2 > between my ears. Sometimes there is very little at all between my > ears. lol > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > -- > I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how > you interpreted my words! > > I like to keep a copy of "Super Grub[2] Disk" around: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ Never heard of "rescatux" until now, but that looks interesting.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> I'm waiting on new/more docs myself. I want to know not only how to >> upgrade but how to fix if it pukes on my keyboard. Hopefully other >> than chroot'in in and all. I have a lot of partitions and they are >> on LVM right now. That chroot'in is a pain in the butt. Oh, LOTS >> of stuff in /usr too so it has to be mounted for you to fix grub. > I have what seems to be an unusual solution of that problem. Each of my > boxes has a small, bootable rescue system in its own partition, and of > course its own entry in grub.conf. Its fstab defines all the main-system > partitions so I only have to mount them. Chrooting is as painless as it > can be. > > Recently, since I've banished ~amd64 except in a few cases, I've only > used any of the rescue systems for backing up its main system to a USB > drive. > But if you try to boot and the grub menu doesn't come up at all, then what? You can't select to boot anything including the rescue system. I want to be able to fix whatever happens. Grub has been good to me so far but I have had a time when after the BIOS was done, I got nothing, nothing at all. That would be something I would want to know how to fix since I can't even boot to get help or search google. If it isn't between my ears, I'm toast. Right now, there is very little grub2 between my ears. Sometimes there is very little at all between my ears. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a Gentoo Expert in NYC?
David Kuhl writes: > I need a Gentoo Expert to take a look at this. Are there any in NYC > around West 72nd? I've got to get this laptop working. After > following the recomendations on building the latest kernel I don't > have a system anymore. Everything on my LVM2 partitions are gone or > at least not working. Use a live-cd (I recommend systemrescuecd), and see what the lvscan oer lvdisplay command gives. Does it still find the LVMs? Then your data should be okay. You may need to enter 'vgchange -a y' to make them active. Then try to mount the partititions. pvscan / pvdisplay and vgscan / vgdisplay also give some information. > I added genkernel ~amd64 to the > portage/package.keywords as suggested to get the latest genkernel to > build . . . which it did. Now the kernel (3.3.8) which was suppose to > fix the xorg-server problem destroyed the system, I can't boot to the > old kernel either it's the same thing. This is getting worse. How > can I fix this? Is there anyone near by? Thanks. What exactly happens? Do you have a separate /usr? I assume you only see the root partitition, and most services do not start because of missing partitions? Do you get a rescue shell only? Does lvscan work there? Maybe vgchange -a y and exit will continue the boot process? Give us some information on what exactly happens, and we'll try to help you. I can imagine how you feel, I've been there, too. If you cannot open your partitions even from a live-cd, maybe someone will allow you to log in to his system via ssh -L :1234:localhost:22 user@host, and the helping person could then log into your system with ssh -p 1234 localhost and have a look. I'd do this, but here it's time to get some sleep now, so I can't help at the moment. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
On Friday 06 July 2012 00:20:15 Dale wrote: > Sebastian Pipping wrote: >8 > > Short version: if it's fear of the unknown with you too, I > > recommend getting to know that beast a little better. You'll > > either end up with many good arguments against it or find out that > > it's better than you expected in the beginning. My guess is the > > latter. Anyway. Give it a try. Good advice. I don't intend to go the GRUB2 way though until I have to, simply because GRUB ain't broke so I don't need to fix it. >8 > I'm waiting on new/more docs myself. I want to know not only how to > upgrade but how to fix if it pukes on my keyboard. Hopefully other > than chroot'in in and all. I have a lot of partitions and they are > on LVM right now. That chroot'in is a pain in the butt. Oh, LOTS > of stuff in /usr too so it has to be mounted for you to fix grub. I have what seems to be an unusual solution of that problem. Each of my boxes has a small, bootable rescue system in its own partition, and of course its own entry in grub.conf. Its fstab defines all the main-system partitions so I only have to mount them. Chrooting is as painless as it can be. Recently, since I've banished ~amd64 except in a few cases, I've only used any of the rescue systems for backing up its main system to a USB drive. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Hello, > > > On 07/05/2012 08:28 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2012-07-05, James wrote: >>> Has anyone seen/tried this guide? >>> >>> http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/docs/grub2-migration.xml >>> >>> The devs seem to be moving along with migration to grub2. >>> >>> as evidence in the gentoo-dev thread. I curious if folks are going to >>> follow the docs, or are we each going to wing out way to grub2 with >>> the legacy installs of gentoo? >> I plan on dragging my feet for as long as possible, and won't switch >> until I'm forced to. And by "forced to" I mean that grub-legacy >> simply won't work anymore -- regardless of whether there's a Gentoo >> package for it or not. > a few weeks ago I was one of those people about to stay away from GRUB 2 > as long as possible. What I didn't know is that part of what I knew and > disliked about GRUB 2 was (only) specific to Debian, the fact that you > no longer edit /etc/grub/grub.cfg directly: you edit parts that are > combined for you. > > Short version: if it's fear of the unknown with you too, I recommend > getting to know that beast a little better. You'll either end up with > many good arguments against it or find out that it's better than you > expected in the beginning. My guess is the latter. Anyway. Give it a try. > > Best, > > > > Sebastian > > I been reading up on this beast too. The commands and such appear to be specific to Gentoo OR at least different from Kubuntu. My money is on Kubuntu being weird. On my bro's Kubuntu I run grub-update but on Gentoo it is grub-mkconfig or something to that effect. I noticed that with Gentoo there is a option on the tail end too. With Kubuntu there is no options or at least none needed anyway. I'm waiting on new/more docs myself. I want to know not only how to upgrade but how to fix if it pukes on my keyboard. Hopefully other than chroot'in in and all. I have a lot of partitions and they are on LVM right now. That chroot'in is a pain in the butt. Oh, LOTS of stuff in /usr too so it has to be mounted for you to fix grub. < sighs > Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a Gentoo Expert in NYC?
hey, it sounds like a list of troubles, not a single problem. i wonder: is there any data on the notebook that needs saving? is starting from scratch an option? best, sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a Gentoo Expert in NYC?
One way to fix that would be to boot a livecd, chroot, build and install another kernel. Why does not the old kernel boot? regards, Dmitry On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:07 AM, David Kuhl wrote: > I need a Gentoo Expert to take a look at this. Are there any in NYC > around West 72nd? I've got to get this laptop working. After > following the recomendations on building the latest kernel I don't > have a system anymore. Everything on my LVM2 partitions are gone or > at least not working. I added genkernel ~amd64 to the > portage/package.keywords as suggested to get the latest genkernel to > build . . . which it did. Now the kernel (3.3.8) which was suppose to > fix the xorg-server problem destroyed the system, I can't boot to the > old kernel either it's the same thing. This is getting worse. How > can I fix this? Is there anyone near by? Thanks. > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
Hello, On 07/05/2012 08:28 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-07-05, James wrote: >> Has anyone seen/tried this guide? >> >> http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/docs/grub2-migration.xml >> >> The devs seem to be moving along with migration to grub2. >> >> as evidence in the gentoo-dev thread. I curious if folks are going to >> follow the docs, or are we each going to wing out way to grub2 with >> the legacy installs of gentoo? > > I plan on dragging my feet for as long as possible, and won't switch > until I'm forced to. And by "forced to" I mean that grub-legacy > simply won't work anymore -- regardless of whether there's a Gentoo > package for it or not. a few weeks ago I was one of those people about to stay away from GRUB 2 as long as possible. What I didn't know is that part of what I knew and disliked about GRUB 2 was (only) specific to Debian, the fact that you no longer edit /etc/grub/grub.cfg directly: you edit parts that are combined for you. Short version: if it's fear of the unknown with you too, I recommend getting to know that beast a little better. You'll either end up with many good arguments against it or find out that it's better than you expected in the beginning. My guess is the latter. Anyway. Give it a try. Best, Sebastian
[gentoo-user] Re: Linux and the Higgs
On 2012-07-05, Frank Peters wrote: > Linux was used to find the Higgs: > > http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/w2ly6/new_boson_found_by_linux/ > > I am not really surprised, but what does disturb me is that the > distros used in the effort were mainly "Scientific Linux and Ubuntu." > > Where was Gentoo? > > Somebody had better counsel these scientists to be better able to > discern the quality of a Linux distro. I know you're probably being ironic, but... Scientific Linux is a distro put together by Fermilab, CERN, et alia for doing the exact type of stuff that they do at CERN. Maybe an argument could be made for moving SL from a RHEL base to a Gentoo base, but trying to get them to abandon SL probably isn't going to be easy. The target market for Ubuntu just doesn't seem to be very compatible with the Gentoo, so that's going to be a tough sell also. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I invented skydiving at in 1989! gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Linux and the Higgs
Linux was used to find the Higgs: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/w2ly6/new_boson_found_by_linux/ I am not really surprised, but what does disturb me is that the distros used in the effort were mainly "Scientific Linux and Ubuntu." Where was Gentoo? Somebody had better counsel these scientists to be better able to discern the quality of a Linux distro. Frank Peters
[gentoo-user] Re: GRUB2 migration
On 2012-07-05, James wrote: > Has anyone seen/tried this guide? > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/docs/grub2-migration.xml > > The devs seem to be moving along with migration to grub2. > > as evidence in the gentoo-dev thread. I curious if folks are going to > follow the docs, or are we each going to wing out way to grub2 with > the legacy installs of gentoo? I plan on dragging my feet for as long as possible, and won't switch until I'm forced to. And by "forced to" I mean that grub-legacy simply won't work anymore -- regardless of whether there's a Gentoo package for it or not. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I want EARS! I want at two ROUND BLACK EARS gmail.comto make me feel warm 'n secure!!
Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADSUP] New udev-186 breaks pulseaudio
* Neil Bothwick [120705 11:53]: > On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:40:15 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: > > > > I backed down to udev-182-r3, which fixed the problem, but I had > > > to run revdep-rebuild (again) to fix all the other packages that > > > did build against libudev.so.1 and now had to be rebuilt a second > > > time against libudev.so.0. > > > > I ran into the same think. lvm2 also doesn't build against it, which I > > think could potentially result in an unbootable system in the right > > situation. > > Sync again, this has been fixed, at least for lvm2 and > system-config-printer-common, I don't use pulseaudio. > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424810 There's a new pulseaudio release coming along too: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423411 Todd
[gentoo-user] GRUB2 migration
Has anyone seen/tried this guide? http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/docs/grub2-migration.xml The devs seem to be moving along with migration to grub2. as evidence in the gentoo-dev thread. I curious if folks are going to follow the docs, or are we each going to wing out way to grub2 with the legacy installs of gentoo? curiously, James
Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADSUP] New udev-186 breaks pulseaudio
On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 09:40:15 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: > > I backed down to udev-182-r3, which fixed the problem, but I had > > to run revdep-rebuild (again) to fix all the other packages that > > did build against libudev.so.1 and now had to be rebuilt a second > > time against libudev.so.0. > > I ran into the same think. lvm2 also doesn't build against it, which I > think could potentially result in an unbootable system in the right > situation. Sync again, this has been fixed, at least for lvm2 and system-config-printer-common, I don't use pulseaudio. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424810 -- Neil Bothwick Angular Momentum Makes The World Go 'Round signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Why sources 3.2.21 in emerge -vuDp world
Harry Putnam writes: > Running gentoo as guest in Vbox on win7 64bit > > Attempting to update with: emerge -vuDp world > > Lists gentoo-sources in output like this: > > , > | [ebuild NS] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.2.21 [3.3.4] USE="-build > | -deblob -symlink" 452 kB > ` > > Even when adding -t (tree) to the cmdline it still does not indicate > what is pulling that in. It is shown unindented and same as above. > > That output indicates the only kernel installed is 3.3.4 but just to > check for sure: > > eix -Ic sources: > , > | root # eix -Ic sources > | [D] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources (3.3.4(3.3.4)@04/29/12 -> > | 3.0.17-r2(3.0.17-r2)^bs (~)3.0.33(3.0.33)^bs (~)3.0.35(3.0.35)^bs > | (~)3.0.36(3.0.36)^bs 3.1.10-r1(3.1.10-r1)^bs 3.2.1-r2(3.2.1-r2)^bs > | 3.2.12(3.2.12)^bs (~)3.2.14(3.2.14)^bs (~)3.2.16(3.2.16)^bs > | (~)3.2.21(3.2.21)^bs): Full sources including the Gentoo patchset > | for the 3.4 kernel tree > ` > > I guess you can't really see it in that output without me adding some > fancy escaping and ansi sequences, but 3.3.4 is highlighted indicating > it is the only one installed. > > And I have this in /etc/portage/package.mask > >>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.3.5 > > So why is version 3.2.21 being installed? > > If something besides an earlier kernel being installed was the cause > it should show up by using -t right? It is because 3.2.21 is the latest gentoo-sources <3.3.5 in the tree. 3.3.4 is no longer in the tree, so portage is downgrading to the latest non-masked version in the tree.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why sources 3.2.21 in emerge -vuDp world
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Running gentoo as guest in Vbox on win7 64bit > > Attempting to update with: emerge -vuDp world > > Lists gentoo-sources in output like this: > > , > | [ebuild NS] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.2.21 [3.3.4] USE="-build > | -deblob -symlink" 452 kB > ` > > Even when adding -t (tree) to the cmdline it still does not indicate > what is pulling that in. It is shown unindented and same as above. > > That output indicates the only kernel installed is 3.3.4 but just to > check for sure: > > eix -Ic sources: > , > | root # eix -Ic sources > | [D] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources (3.3.4(3.3.4)@04/29/12 -> > 3.0.17-r2(3.0.17-r2)^bs (~)3.0.33(3.0.33)^bs (~)3.0.35(3.0.35)^bs > (~)3.0.36(3.0.36)^bs 3.1.10-r1(3.1.10-r1)^bs 3.2.1-r2(3.2.1-r2)^bs > 3.2.12(3.2.12)^bs (~)3.2.14(3.2.14)^bs (~)3.2.16(3.2.16)^bs > (~)3.2.21(3.2.21)^bs): Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 3.4 > kernel tree > ` > > I guess you can't really see it in that output without me adding some > fancy escaping and ansi sequences, but 3.3.4 is highlighted indicating > it is the only one installed. > > And I have this in /etc/portage/package.mask > >>=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.3.5 > > So why is version 3.2.21 being installed? > > If something besides an earlier kernel being installed was the cause > it should show up by using -t right? > Not happening here in VMs or hardware machines. Possibly something funny in your world file is telling portage to drag it down? Good luck, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] [HEADSUP] New udev-186 breaks pulseaudio
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:01 AM, walt wrote: > udev-186 replaces libudev.so.0 with libudev.so.1, and pulseaudio > won't compile against it. If you need pulse, avoid udev-186. > > I backed down to udev-182-r3, which fixed the problem, but I had > to run revdep-rebuild (again) to fix all the other packages that > did build against libudev.so.1 and now had to be rebuilt a second > time against libudev.so.0. I ran into the same think. lvm2 also doesn't build against it, which I think could potentially result in an unbootable system in the right situation. > Also, even udev-182 did some breakage to the udev scripts installed > by hplip, but that's easy to fix. Apparently the recent udev has > replaced the SYSFS keyword with ATTR. I believe that was a configuration problem in the latest hplip ebuild; the previous version didn't do that. I think udev has been warning about SYSFS deprecation for 3 years. > This simple fix I found with google seems to work for me: > > #cd /lib64/udev/rules.d > #sed -i s/SYSFS/ATTR/g * That also works. > Doesn't it seem that breakage this big should be obvious to the > devs before the changes go public, even on ~arch? Hrmph! I guess it is called "unstable" for good reason sometimes. :) The bugs we encounter, report and sometimes actually solve, will help the stable users down the road so they don't have the same problems.
[gentoo-user] Why sources 3.2.21 in emerge -vuDp world
Running gentoo as guest in Vbox on win7 64bit Attempting to update with: emerge -vuDp world Lists gentoo-sources in output like this: , | [ebuild NS] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.2.21 [3.3.4] USE="-build | -deblob -symlink" 452 kB ` Even when adding -t (tree) to the cmdline it still does not indicate what is pulling that in. It is shown unindented and same as above. That output indicates the only kernel installed is 3.3.4 but just to check for sure: eix -Ic sources: , | root # eix -Ic sources | [D] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources (3.3.4(3.3.4)@04/29/12 -> 3.0.17-r2(3.0.17-r2)^bs (~)3.0.33(3.0.33)^bs (~)3.0.35(3.0.35)^bs (~)3.0.36(3.0.36)^bs 3.1.10-r1(3.1.10-r1)^bs 3.2.1-r2(3.2.1-r2)^bs 3.2.12(3.2.12)^bs (~)3.2.14(3.2.14)^bs (~)3.2.16(3.2.16)^bs (~)3.2.21(3.2.21)^bs): Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 3.4 kernel tree ` I guess you can't really see it in that output without me adding some fancy escaping and ansi sequences, but 3.3.4 is highlighted indicating it is the only one installed. And I have this in /etc/portage/package.mask >=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.3.5 So why is version 3.2.21 being installed? If something besides an earlier kernel being installed was the cause it should show up by using -t right?
Re: [gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 09:21 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05 2012, Philipp Riegger wrote: > > > On 05.07.2012 14:43, William Kenworthy wrote: > >> On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:24 +0200, Philipp Riegger wrote: > >>> On 05.07.2012 14:00, William Kenworthy wrote: > Any hints where to look next as the gdm logs arent very informative. > >>> Hmm, do you have a user polkitd with invalid home directory in > >>> /etc/passwd? > >>> > >>> Philipp > >>> > >>> > >> Not polkitd but a polkituser - what should I have? > >> > >> polkituser:x:118:1021:added by portage for polkit:/dev/null:/sbin/nologin > >> > > > > I run ~amd64, there was a bug that the polkitd user was created with > > invalid home and then politd or some other server could not be > > run. Re-emerging the package some time later showed a message how to > > fix it. No idea about polkituser though, can't find anything about > > that. > > Check out https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420269 > > I am currently running 0.106-r7, which has backed out most of the > problems. There was trouble with users polkitd and adm. Now with -r7 I > was able to remove my workarounds and have > > adm:x:3:4:adm:/var/adm:/bin/false > polkitd:x:110:998:added by portage for polkit:/var/lib/polkit-1:/sbin/nologin > > in /etc/passwd. > > hth, > allan > ahh, I have polkit-104-r1 ... looks like an upgrade is in order. Job for tomorrow morning. Thanks Alan and Alex. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
On Thu, Jul 05 2012, Philipp Riegger wrote: > On 05.07.2012 14:43, William Kenworthy wrote: >> On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:24 +0200, Philipp Riegger wrote: >>> On 05.07.2012 14:00, William Kenworthy wrote: Any hints where to look next as the gdm logs arent very informative. >>> Hmm, do you have a user polkitd with invalid home directory in /etc/passwd? >>> >>> Philipp >>> >>> >> Not polkitd but a polkituser - what should I have? >> >> polkituser:x:118:1021:added by portage for polkit:/dev/null:/sbin/nologin >> > > I run ~amd64, there was a bug that the polkitd user was created with > invalid home and then politd or some other server could not be > run. Re-emerging the package some time later showed a message how to > fix it. No idea about polkituser though, can't find anything about > that. Check out https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420269 I am currently running 0.106-r7, which has backed out most of the problems. There was trouble with users polkitd and adm. Now with -r7 I was able to remove my workarounds and have adm:x:3:4:adm:/var/adm:/bin/false polkitd:x:110:998:added by portage for polkit:/var/lib/polkit-1:/sbin/nologin in /etc/passwd. hth, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
William Kenworthy writes: > On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:24 +0200, Philipp Riegger wrote: > > On 05.07.2012 14:00, William Kenworthy wrote: > > > Any hints where to look next as the gdm logs arent very informative. > > > > Hmm, do you have a user polkitd with invalid home directory > > in /etc/passwd? > Not polkitd but a polkituser - what should I have? > > polkituser:x:118:1021:added by portage for > polkit:/dev/null:/sbin/nologin I have a similar entry, but with UID 991. But I wonder why you don't have a polkitd user. Maybe this is your problem? The entry should be like this, at least for sys-auth/polkit-0.106-r7: polkitd:x:129:991:added by portage for polkit:/var/lib/polkit-1:/sbin/nologin For me, it's still set to /var/empty, which also seems to work. When the directory was /dev/null, one of the symptoms was Gnome3 refusing to start. But maybe my setup is different because I'm on ~amd64, and the polkitd user has been introduced by a version of polkit later than yours. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2 and is the upgrade a tooth puller.
Am 03.07.2012 20:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Should I file a bug? Anyone else hitting this? > I hesitate as I might have forgotten something simple/stupid. bit the bullet: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424904 ;-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:57 +0200, Philipp Riegger wrote: > On 05.07.2012 14:00, William Kenworthy wrote: > > Any hints where to look next as the gdm logs arent very informative. > > BTW, you could check ~/.xsession-error (or something like this). Nice > logfile. > > Philipp > > Except it never gets to login/select a user (the greeter doesnt appear) I just set the xdm to kdm instead of gdm and it started and I am now looking at a gnome3 desktop. Pressures off, I have X back :) Now I can debug in a more leisurely manner. Thanks, BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
On 05.07.2012 14:00, William Kenworthy wrote: Any hints where to look next as the gdm logs arent very informative. BTW, you could check ~/.xsession-error (or something like this). Nice logfile. Philipp
Re: [gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
On 05.07.2012 14:43, William Kenworthy wrote: On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:24 +0200, Philipp Riegger wrote: On 05.07.2012 14:00, William Kenworthy wrote: Any hints where to look next as the gdm logs arent very informative. Hmm, do you have a user polkitd with invalid home directory in /etc/passwd? Philipp Not polkitd but a polkituser - what should I have? polkituser:x:118:1021:added by portage for polkit:/dev/null:/sbin/nologin I run ~amd64, there was a bug that the polkitd user was created with invalid home and then politd or some other server could not be run. Re-emerging the package some time later showed a message how to fix it. No idea about polkituser though, can't find anything about that. Philipp
Re: [gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:24 +0200, Philipp Riegger wrote: > On 05.07.2012 14:00, William Kenworthy wrote: > > Any hints where to look next as the gdm logs arent very informative. > > Hmm, do you have a user polkitd with invalid home directory in /etc/passwd? > > Philipp > > Not polkitd but a polkituser - what should I have? polkituser:x:118:1021:added by portage for polkit:/dev/null:/sbin/nologin BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
On 05.07.2012 14:00, William Kenworthy wrote: Any hints where to look next as the gdm logs arent very informative. Hmm, do you have a user polkitd with invalid home directory in /etc/passwd? Philipp
[gentoo-user] [HEADSUP] New udev-186 breaks pulseaudio
udev-186 replaces libudev.so.0 with libudev.so.1, and pulseaudio won't compile against it. If you need pulse, avoid udev-186. I backed down to udev-182-r3, which fixed the problem, but I had to run revdep-rebuild (again) to fix all the other packages that did build against libudev.so.1 and now had to be rebuilt a second time against libudev.so.0. Also, even udev-182 did some breakage to the udev scripts installed by hplip, but that's easy to fix. Apparently the recent udev has replaced the SYSFS keyword with ATTR. This simple fix I found with google seems to work for me: #cd /lib64/udev/rules.d #sed -i s/SYSFS/ATTR/g * Doesn't it seem that breakage this big should be obvious to the devs before the changes go public, even on ~arch? Hrmph!
[gentoo-user] Failed gnome3 upgrade
I am having problems with gnome3/X on an old Sony Vaio. Its had gentoo/gnome2 on it for years but after this upgrade to gnome3 gdm stops at a black screen with a rotating cursor. So far I have tried 3.1.1 and 3.4.4 kernels plus rebuilding everything I can think of. KMS looks like its set correctly (intel i915) The basic X server can run using twm. Any hints where to look next as the gdm logs arent very informative. BillK
