Re: [gentoo-user] SNIP warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 18 July 2014 06:54:32 Mick wrote:
 On Thursday 17 Jul 2014 23:48:51 Peter Humphrey wrote:
  This is my /etc/locale.gen:
  
  en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8
  en_GB ISO-8859-1
  en_GB.ISO-8859-15 ISO-8859-15
  
  I don't remember why I still have those last two entries; I expect they
  date  from before Gentoo adopted UTF-8. Maybe I'll remove them and see
  what happens.
 
 The last line is for Western European ASCII character encodings, just like
 en_GB ISO-8859-1, but with the Euro symbol and some other accented
 characters missing from the latter.

Yes, I remember that, just not why I haven't ditched them since UTF-8 took 
over the world.

 Nothing will happen if you remove the last two entries, because (I think)
 that the UTF-8 character encodings cover all these.

That's my uncertainty too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.17 fails and warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-18 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote:

 Update:

 No issues with glibc.

 I am not doing any parallel builds (eg. default of -j 1 is used)

  

 Let me know if you want any files for comparison.

  

 --

 Joost


I tried the same tarball you are using and it still failed.  Basically,
I unpacked the thing, copied over the portage tree and distfiles and
tried to emerge glibc and it failed.   It has to be something wrong on
my end here.  Heck, this last time, I didn't even touch make.conf.  I
looked to make sure it was set to something sane but didn't need to
change anything.  I don't need sync servers or mirror servers either
since I copy that over. 

This is weird. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 


Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.17 fails and warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 18 July 2014 11:18:27 CEST, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
J. Roeleveld wrote:

 Update:

 No issues with glibc.

 I am not doing any parallel builds (eg. default of -j 1 is used)

  

 Let me know if you want any files for comparison.

  

 --

 Joost


I tried the same tarball you are using and it still failed.  Basically,
I unpacked the thing, copied over the portage tree and distfiles and
tried to emerge glibc and it failed.   It has to be something wrong on
my end here.  Heck, this last time, I didn't even touch make.conf.  I
looked to make sure it was set to something sane but didn't need to
change anything.  I don't need sync servers or mirror servers either
since I copy that over. 

This is weird. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

I did do a new sync and downloaded the distfiles from the net.
Eg. Didn't copy anything from.an existing environment. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasma pager layout indicator

2014-07-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 17/07/2014 23:31, Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 17/07/2014 21:42, Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 16/07/2014 18:45, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 easiest way to test: new user. Copy over config files until problem 
 occurs.
 doh
 Yes of course, that's the best way. Didn't think of that


 I just did my KDE upgrade so I renamed the .kde4 directory.  I logged
 in, set up enough that I could test things and then logged out.  When I
 logged back in, it worked like it should.  Let's see how long that lasts. 

 Alan, make sure you change the permissions on those file.  I have a test
 account that I rarely use as well.  In the past, I had to change the
 owner from dale to dale2 which is my account names.  Usually the group
 is the same so the owner is all that needs changing. 
 Why change the permissions? They must be rw for the user using them
 which means chmod 6xx, the group being entirely irrelevant as it will
 never be referenced. If the new user is doing the copy then they will be
 owned by that new user anyway. cp -a will just always do the right
 thing in this case :-)


 Well, I usually copy as root which leaves the permissions the same. 
 Since you do it as user then you are right. 

 DO NOT DO THAT COPY AS ROOT. That's just needlessly
 asking for trouble.

 Do it as the destination user, as long as it can read the source user's
 home dir it all works out fine. Group membership is usually sufficient
 and the only case where it's an issue is if home dirs are set to
 rwx-- or encrypted



I always have a Konsole open as root.  I never have one open as a user. 
I been doing it that way ever since shortly after I started using
Linux.  I got tired of having to switch  from one user to another every
time I wanted to do something.  If I am root, I can copy from wherever I
want to wherever I want.  Once it is done, I can fix permissions if
needed.  It also means I can run whatever command without having to see
who I am logged in as first as well. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE plasma pager layout indicator

2014-07-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/07/2014 11:48, Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 17/07/2014 23:31, Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 17/07/2014 21:42, Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 16/07/2014 18:45, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 easiest way to test: new user. Copy over config files until problem 
 occurs.
 doh
 Yes of course, that's the best way. Didn't think of that


 I just did my KDE upgrade so I renamed the .kde4 directory.  I logged
 in, set up enough that I could test things and then logged out.  When I
 logged back in, it worked like it should.  Let's see how long that lasts. 

 Alan, make sure you change the permissions on those file.  I have a test
 account that I rarely use as well.  In the past, I had to change the
 owner from dale to dale2 which is my account names.  Usually the group
 is the same so the owner is all that needs changing. 
 Why change the permissions? They must be rw for the user using them
 which means chmod 6xx, the group being entirely irrelevant as it will
 never be referenced. If the new user is doing the copy then they will be
 owned by that new user anyway. cp -a will just always do the right
 thing in this case :-)


 Well, I usually copy as root which leaves the permissions the same. 
 Since you do it as user then you are right. 

 DO NOT DO THAT COPY AS ROOT. That's just needlessly
 asking for trouble.

 Do it as the destination user, as long as it can read the source user's
 home dir it all works out fine. Group membership is usually sufficient
 and the only case where it's an issue is if home dirs are set to
 rwx-- or encrypted


 
 I always have a Konsole open as root.  I never have one open as a user. 
 I been doing it that way ever since shortly after I started using
 Linux.  I got tired of having to switch  from one user to another every
 time I wanted to do something.  If I am root, I can copy from wherever I
 want to wherever I want.  Once it is done, I can fix permissions if
 needed.  It also means I can run whatever command without having to see
 who I am logged in as first as well. 


So why do you have a user dale at all?


-- 
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.17 fails and warning: setlocale: LC_ALL error

2014-07-18 Thread Jc García
2014-07-18 3:18 GMT-06:00 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com:



 I tried the same tarball you are using and it still failed.  Basically, I
 unpacked the thing, copied over the portage tree and distfiles and tried to
 emerge glibc and it failed.   It has to be something wrong on my end here.
 Heck, this last time, I didn't even touch make.conf.  I looked to make sure
 it was set to something sane but didn't need to change anything.  I don't
 need sync servers or mirror servers either since I copy that over.

Did you updated the locales? in the other thread about this I pointed
some things you should check, also take a look at this guide[1],
mostly unrelated but there's one step which might be in your
insterest:
 9. Edit your locales and run locale-gen – sooner or later you’re
going to have to update glibc so no sense taking all day to do it.
[1] http://rich0gentoo.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/gentoo-on-ec2-from-scratch/
 This is weird.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] epson printer

2014-07-18 Thread Bill Kenworthy
Hi, Ive just bought a new epson wf-3520 MFP and want to get it to print
through cups over wifi for preference.

Question 1 - do you have to be on the (same) wireless network to print
if using wifi? (i.e., I have a complicated set of networks and want to
print via a LAN to the printer on a separate routed wifi network -
connectivity exists but I cant get it to talk to me.)

Question 2 - what stanza do I use to connect?
(ipp://192.168.41.72:631/what?/, or is it http?)  This information
doesn't seem to be available with ubuntu folks etc just saying it
works - I suspect cups browsing on the same network)

BillK




[gentoo-user] How can I find 2nd network adapter?

2014-07-18 Thread Jarry

Hi Gentoo-users,

I added the 2nd network adapteer to my gentoo-box and I want
to use it. But... I do not know how it is called!

ifconfig shows only the one adapter I had, called enp3s0.
I remember some time ago I moved from human network names
(i.e. eth0) to this and now I see the first disadvantage:
while before I could guess new network name (probably eth1,
eth2, etc), now I can not. I tried enp4s0, enp3s1,
enp4s1 but I always get only No such device error.

I checked gentoo-handbook but it works with those old  good
network devices (eth0, eth1).

So how can I find name of the new network adapter?

Jarry
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I find 2nd network adapter?

2014-07-18 Thread Willie Matthews
On 07/18/2014 09:28 AM, Jarry wrote:
 Hi Gentoo-users,

 I added the 2nd network adapteer to my gentoo-box and I want
 to use it. But... I do not know how it is called!

 ifconfig shows only the one adapter I had, called enp3s0.
 I remember some time ago I moved from human network names
 (i.e. eth0) to this and now I see the first disadvantage:
 while before I could guess new network name (probably eth1,
 eth2, etc), now I can not. I tried enp4s0, enp3s1,
 enp4s1 but I always get only No such device error.

 I checked gentoo-handbook but it works with those old  good
 network devices (eth0, eth1).

 So how can I find name of the new network adapter?

 Jarry
Hey Jarry,
Make sure you are loading a module for it or you have it built into the
kernel! It isn't going to work any other way.

-- 

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matthews.willi...@gmail.com
702.659.9966
Just a old computer geek!




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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I find 2nd network adapter?

2014-07-18 Thread Gmail

Have you tried iwconfig?

Il 18/07/2014 18:28, Jarry ha scritto:

Hi Gentoo-users,

I added the 2nd network adapteer to my gentoo-box and I want
to use it. But... I do not know how it is called!

ifconfig shows only the one adapter I had, called enp3s0.
I remember some time ago I moved from human network names
(i.e. eth0) to this and now I see the first disadvantage:
while before I could guess new network name (probably eth1,
eth2, etc), now I can not. I tried enp4s0, enp3s1,
enp4s1 but I always get only No such device error.

I checked gentoo-handbook but it works with those old  good
network devices (eth0, eth1).

So how can I find name of the new network adapter?

Jarry





Re: [gentoo-user] How can I find 2nd network adapter?

2014-07-18 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 07/18/2014 07:28 PM, Jarry wrote:
 Hi Gentoo-users,

 I added the 2nd network adapteer to my gentoo-box and I want
 to use it. But... I do not know how it is called!

 ifconfig shows only the one adapter I had, called enp3s0.
 I remember some time ago I moved from human network names
 (i.e. eth0) to this and now I see the first disadvantage:
 while before I could guess new network name (probably eth1,
 eth2, etc), now I can not. I tried enp4s0, enp3s1,
 enp4s1 but I always get only No such device error.

 I checked gentoo-handbook but it works with those old  good
 network devices (eth0, eth1).

 So how can I find name of the new network adapter?

 Jarry
Here's the QA message for sys-fs-udev-215 that might be helpful:

 Messages for package sys-fs/udev-215:
 Starting from version = 197 the new predictable network interface
names are
 used by default, see:
 
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames
 http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/udev/udev-builtin-net_id.c
 
 Example command to get the information for the new interface name
before booting
 (replace ifname with, for example, eth0):
 # udevadm test-builtin net_id /sys/class/net/ifname 2 /dev/null
 
 You can use either kernel parameter net.ifnames=0, create empty
 file /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link, or symlink it to /dev/null
 to disable the feature.
 
 You need to restart udev as soon as possible to make the upgrade go
 into effect.
 The method you use to do this depends on your init system.
 For sys-apps/openrc users it is:
 # /etc/init.d/udev --nodeps restart
 
 For more information on udev on Gentoo, upgrading, writing udev rules,
and fixing known issues visit:
 http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev
 http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade




Re: [gentoo-user] How can I find 2nd network adapter?

2014-07-18 Thread Jarry

On 18-Jul-14 18:37, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

On 07/18/2014 07:28 PM, Jarry wrote:


So how can I find name of the new network adapter?



  Example command to get the information for the new interface name
before booting
  (replace ifname with, for example, eth0):
  # udevadm test-builtin net_id /sys/class/net/ifname 2 /dev/null


That's the place to search! I just checked /sys/class/net/ and
found new adapter called enp11s0 there. With ifconfig I can
bring it now up and cofigure. Thanks!

Jarry
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I find 2nd network adapter?

2014-07-18 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 07/18/2014 07:42 PM, Jarry wrote:
 On 18-Jul-14 18:37, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 On 07/18/2014 07:28 PM, Jarry wrote:

 So how can I find name of the new network adapter?


   Example command to get the information for the new interface name
 before booting
   (replace ifname with, for example, eth0):
   # udevadm test-builtin net_id /sys/class/net/ifname 2 /dev/null

 That's the place to search! I just checked /sys/class/net/ and
 found new adapter called enp11s0 there. With ifconfig I can
 bring it now up and cofigure. Thanks!

 Jarry
No worries.




Re: [gentoo-user] How can I find 2nd network adapter?

2014-07-18 Thread Joshua Doll
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Gentoo-users,

 I added the 2nd network adapteer to my gentoo-box and I want
 to use it. But... I do not know how it is called!

 ifconfig shows only the one adapter I had, called enp3s0.
 I remember some time ago I moved from human network names
 (i.e. eth0) to this and now I see the first disadvantage:
 while before I could guess new network name (probably eth1,
 eth2, etc), now I can not. I tried enp4s0, enp3s1,
 enp4s1 but I always get only No such device error.

 I checked gentoo-handbook but it works with those old  good
 network devices (eth0, eth1).

 So how can I find name of the new network adapter?

 Jarry
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What does ifconfig -a return? Did you try grepping dmesg for eth[0-9]?

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[gentoo-user] Re: How can I find 2nd network adapter?

2014-07-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-07-18, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's the place to search! I just checked /sys/class/net/ and
 found new adapter called enp11s0 there. With ifconfig I can
 bring it now up and cofigure. Thanks!

Didn't ifconfig -a show it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] epson printer

2014-07-18 Thread Stroller

On Fri, 18 July 2014, at 3:52 pm, Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 ...
 Question 1 - do you have to be on the (same) wireless network to print
 if using wifi? (i.e., I have a complicated set of networks and want to
 print via a LAN to the printer on a separate routed wifi network -
 connectivity exists but I cant get it to talk to me.)

Can you ping it?

Stroller.




[gentoo-user] Re: epson printer

2014-07-18 Thread James
Bill Kenworthy billk at iinet.net.au writes:

 
 Hi, Ive just bought a new epson wf-3520 MFP and want to get it to print
 through cups over wifi for preference.
 
 Question 1 - do you have to be on the (same) wireless network to print
 if using wifi? (i.e., I have a complicated set of networks and want to
 print via a LAN to the printer on a separate routed wifi network -
 connectivity exists but I cant get it to talk to me.)


Most modern printers have an embedded web server. You may be able to
just type in the IP address into your web browser and establish a connection
to the printer's internal web server. Give it a whirl...


 Question 2 - what stanza do I use to connect?
 (ipp://192.168.41.72:631/what?/, or is it http?)  This information
 doesn't seem to be available with ubuntu folks etc just saying it
 works - I suspect cups browsing on the same network)


if you have installed and configure cups, you should have this file:
/etc/cupsd/printers.conf

and an entry like so:

DeviceURI socket://10.20.30.69





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: epson printer

2014-07-18 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 19/07/14 02:19, James wrote:
 Bill Kenworthy billk at iinet.net.au writes:
 

 Hi, Ive just bought a new epson wf-3520 MFP and want to get it to print
 through cups over wifi for preference.

 Question 1 - do you have to be on the (same) wireless network to print
 if using wifi? (i.e., I have a complicated set of networks and want to
 print via a LAN to the printer on a separate routed wifi network -
 connectivity exists but I cant get it to talk to me.)
 
 
 Most modern printers have an embedded web server. You may be able to
 just type in the IP address into your web browser and establish a connection
 to the printer's internal web server. Give it a whirl...
 
 
 Question 2 - what stanza do I use to connect?
 (ipp://192.168.41.72:631/what?/, or is it http?)  This information
 doesn't seem to be available with ubuntu folks etc just saying it
 works - I suspect cups browsing on the same network)
 
 
 if you have installed and configure cups, you should have this file:
 /etc/cupsd/printers.conf
 
 and an entry like so:
 
 DeviceURI socket://10.20.30.69
 
 
 

Thanks, now working.  The socket interface works whereas my old printer
used usb - wireless seems SO much nicer, and I don't need to run raw
queues for windows and fragile bonjour services via cups anymore -
win-win :)

The web server is also a great idea - but the (lack of) documentation is
a problem when they don't tell you it exists!

BillK




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: epson printer

2014-07-18 Thread Mick
On Friday 18 Jul 2014 22:18:58 Bill Kenworthy wrote:
 On 19/07/14 02:19, James wrote:
  Bill Kenworthy billk at iinet.net.au writes:
  Hi, Ive just bought a new epson wf-3520 MFP and want to get it to print
  through cups over wifi for preference.
  
  Question 1 - do you have to be on the (same) wireless network to print
  if using wifi? (i.e., I have a complicated set of networks and want to
  print via a LAN to the printer on a separate routed wifi network -
  connectivity exists but I cant get it to talk to me.)
  
  Most modern printers have an embedded web server. You may be able to
  just type in the IP address into your web browser and establish a
  connection to the printer's internal web server. Give it a whirl...
  
  Question 2 - what stanza do I use to connect?
  (ipp://192.168.41.72:631/what?/, or is it http?)  This information
  doesn't seem to be available with ubuntu folks etc just saying it
  works - I suspect cups browsing on the same network)
  
  if you have installed and configure cups, you should have this file:
  /etc/cupsd/printers.conf
  
  and an entry like so:
  
  DeviceURI socket://10.20.30.69
 
 Thanks, now working.  The socket interface works whereas my old printer
 used usb - wireless seems SO much nicer, and I don't need to run raw
 queues for windows and fragile bonjour services via cups anymore -
 win-win :)
 
 The web server is also a great idea - but the (lack of) documentation is
 a problem when they don't tell you it exists!

It may also have a telnet daemon running, or snmp.  Worth investigating.

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[gentoo-user] dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.6[05]

2014-07-18 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60 cannot be emerged.

!!! dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60 has fetch restriction turned on.
!!! This probably means that this ebuild's files must be downloaded
!!! manually.  See the comments in the ebuild for more information.

 * Fetch failed for 'dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60', Log file:
 *  '/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60/temp/build.log'
 * Package:dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60
 * Repository: gentoo
 * Maintainer: j...@gentoo.org
 * USE:abi_x86_64 amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU
 * FEATURES:   preserve-libs sandbox splitdebug userpriv usersandbox
 * Please download jdk-7u60-apidocs.zip from 
 * 
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/documentation/java-se-7-doc-download-435117.html
 * (agree to the license) and place it in /usr/portage/distfiles
 * If you find the file on the download page replaced with a higher
 * version, please report to the bug 67266 (link below).
 * If emerge fails because of a checksum error it is possible that
 * the upstream release changed without renaming. Try downloading the file
 * again (or a newer revision if available). Otherwise report this to
 * http://bugs.gentoo.org/67266 and we will make a new revision.

I downloaded that file manually. It turns out, that Orcale offers
version dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65 in the meanwhile.

An according bug was filed. 

When will the ebuild it be updated?

Best regards,
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.6[05]

2014-07-18 Thread Stroller

On Sat, 19 July 2014, at 2:26 am, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 ...
 dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60 cannot be emerged.
 
 !!! dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60 has fetch restriction turned on.
 ...
 
 I downloaded that file manually. It turns out, that Orcale offers
 version dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65 in the meanwhile.
 
 An according bug was filed. 
 
 When will the ebuild it be updated?


Doesn't matter, bump 
/usr/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60.ebuild to 
java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65 in your local overlay.

This probably means something like 

# mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/
# cp /usr/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60.ebuild 
/usr/local/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65.ebuild
# ebuild 
/usr/local/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65.ebuild manifest
# emerge -1 =java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65

You can't rely on when the devs might update the tree - there's no way to know 
when they'll do so/

Hopefully the devs will bump mainline quickly, as the fetch restriction will 
surely break this package for everyone, but there's no point in waiting on them.

Stroller. 




Re: [gentoo-user] dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.6[05]

2014-07-18 Thread meino . cramer
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk [14-07-19 07:16]:
 
 On Sat, 19 July 2014, at 2:26 am, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  ...
  dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60 cannot be emerged.
  
  !!! dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60 has fetch restriction turned on.
  ...
  
  I downloaded that file manually. It turns out, that Orcale offers
  version dev-java/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65 in the meanwhile.
  
  An according bug was filed. 
  
  When will the ebuild it be updated?
 
 
 Doesn't matter, bump 
 /usr/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60.ebuild to 
 java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65 in your local overlay.
 
 This probably means something like 
 
 # mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/
 # cp /usr/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.60.ebuild 
 /usr/local/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65.ebuild
 # ebuild 
 /usr/local/portage/dev-java/java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65.ebuild 
 manifest
 # emerge -1 =java-sdk-docs/java-sdk-docs-1.7.0.65
 
 You can't rely on when the devs might update the tree - there's no way to 
 know when they'll do so/
 
 Hopefully the devs will bump mainline quickly, as the fetch restriction will 
 surely break this package for everyone, but there's no point in waiting on 
 them.
 
 Stroller. 
 
 

Thanks a lot, Stroller!
Have a nice weekend!

Best regards,
mcc