[gentoo-user] no more googleearth in portage

2017-09-19 Thread Raffaele Belardi
I suppose it's due to Google's choice to support only Chrome, although I missed 
the Gentoo
news bit if there was one.

For Android there is the really good Open Street Map application, are there any 
desktop
alternatives in Portage for non-Chrome users? I know OSM has a web interface 
but I'd
prefer a standalone application.

raffaele



Re: [gentoo-user] locale no longer recognised by Plasma and KDE apps?

2017-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 08:56:34AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday, 16 September 2017 08:24:33 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
[…]
> > Starting system settings from the terminal prints one line:
> > log_user_manager: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" "The name
> > org.freedesktop.login1 was not provided by any .service files"
> > Not sure though whether that’s related.
>
> It certainly sounds likely. Do you start dbus in the default run level?

Yes, I do. Perhaps I’ll set up a virtual machine with another distro and
compare it with that. I got some time on my hands over the next few days.

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Re: [gentoo-user] thin-provisioning-tools - but I don't provision anything!!!!!

2017-09-19 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 16/09/17 06:57, Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Freitag, 15. September 2017, 19:56:54 CEST schrieb Andrew Lowe:
>> Hi all,
>>  I posted about a nasty infection my machine had with three versions of
>> Ruby a few days ago. In the process of trying to fix that I noticed a
>> thingy called "thin-provisioning-tools". I don't have anything thin and
>> I don't provision anything so why I ask?
>>
>>  From what I've been able to understand, it's something to do with
>> Device Mapper, snapshots and "many virtual devices to be stored on the
>> same data volume". This is all just jibberish to me and I have no idea
>> as to why this has suddenly appeared in my world update. I haven't asked
>> for it. I don't use any of the "more advanced" thingies such as lvm2 etc
>> so does anyone have any idea as to why I've now go this to install?
>>
>>  Back to Ruby killing now,
>>  Andrew
> 
> Based on what I've researched for the other sub-thread, since you don't 
> actually use LVM, then -- unless you set the wrong USE flags -- you probably 
> have udisks:0 installed (it has an unconditional dependency on lvm2).  Use 
> "emerge --depclean -pv lvm2" to find out for sure.
> 
> If it is udisks:0, then AFAICT you can get rid of it with appropriate USE 
> flag 
> settings ("equery depends" is your friend here).
> 
> HTH
> 

I think I eventually tracked the problem down to installing
sys-fs/cryptsetup ages ago and subsequently doing nothing with it, hence
out of sight, out of mind. It brought in lvm2, which once again I don't
use, but out of sight, out of mind, which brought in
thin-provisioning-tools.

Just at the moment with my 3 versions of Ruby and KDE doing a large
upgrade, I was swamped with "info" so it took a bit to find my way
around this stuff and find the appropriate flags to set/unset.

Thanks to those who provided thoughts,

Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] /sys/fs/cgroup/unified/ missing

2017-09-19 Thread Robin Atwood
[This post is directed at Mike Gilbert. I am not receiving Gentoo list 
messages for some reason, I found his reply in the archives!]

>OpenRC only gained support for the "unified" cgroup hierarchy within
>the last week or so in version 0.31.

Thanks for the hint. I have that version of openrc installed. Openrc-0.31.1 is 
now available so I installed that and the problem went away. 

Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] strange behaviour in quite special case

2017-09-19 Thread Francisco Ares
2017-09-18 19:56 GMT-03:00 Peter Humphrey :

> On Monday, 18 September 2017 14:13:44 BST Francisco Ares wrote:
>
> > After days and days struggling,
>
> I know what you mean. I've spent weeks wrestling with KMail. That included
> losing e-mails, falling behind in conversations and so on.
>
> > I finally upgraded to the newest stable kernel and updated every package
> > with a "emerge -e", just in case, twice! Then, rebuilt the kernel again.
> >
> > So, like a charm, everything got back to work as before.
>
> My technique in such cases is to emerge @system, then recompile the kernel,
> reboot on it and emerge -e world --exclude="gcc gentoo-sources". Seems to
> have worked out all right so far. You could omit the exclusion if you're
> even more paranoid than KMail has made me.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Peter.
>
>
>

Hi, Peter.

Thank you for your experience.  In fact, as an "emerge -e" is quite
automatic, and I could let the system alone a whole weekend, I didn't worry
(nor had the time) to do it in parts to try to figure out which one would
succeed, in special because on the following monday it just _should_ be
working, or the launch of the new program version would be delayed (for
who-knows how much time) and would put my neck at risk ;-).

Best Regards,
Francisco


Re: [gentoo-user] Change Readline mode for all users?

2017-09-19 Thread Simon Thelen
On 17-09-19 at 14:48, Stroller wrote:
> > On 19 Sep 2017, at 01:30, Simon Thelen  wrote:
> >> Is it possible to set this for all users, please, so that this edit
> >> mode is used for root?
> > Readline is customized by putting commands in an initialization file
> > (the inputrc file). The name of this file is taken from the value of the
> > INPUTRC environment variable.  If that variable is unset, the default is
> > ~/.inputrc. If that file  does not exist or cannot be read, the ultimate
> > default is /etc/inputrc.
> > 
> >> I find that my pager and editor are set in /etc/env.d/99pager and
> >> /etc/env.d/99editor respectively, but creating a
> >> /etc/env.d/99bashlineediting file containing "set -o vi" doesn't seem
> >> to work.
> > Either "set-editing-mode vi" in /etc/inputrc for all readline programs
> > or in /etc/bash/bashrc (for bash-only)
> I looked at /etc/inputrc, and its existing contents are of a different format.
> 
> Where all the other lines are of the form:
>   "\eOH": beginning-of-line
>   "\eOF": end-of-line
> it felt a bit wrong to be adding "set-editing-mode vi". Hence me asking here. 
> Is it foolish of me to think this?
That's just part of the inputrc, mine at least also has several settings
set at the top of the file. According to readline(3) the inputrc can
contain both key bindings and variable settings, the lines you pointed
out are the keybindings and what you wanted to add is a variable setting
(set editing-mode vi).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Change Readline mode for all users?

2017-09-19 Thread Stroller

> On 19 Sep 2017, at 01:30, Simon Thelen  wrote:
>> 
>> Is it possible to set this for all users, please, so that this edit
>> mode is used for root?
> Readline is customized by putting commands in an initialization file
> (the inputrc file). The name of this file is taken from the value of the
> INPUTRC environment variable.  If that variable is unset, the default is
> ~/.inputrc. If that file  does not exist or cannot be read, the ultimate
> default is /etc/inputrc.
> 
>> I find that my pager and editor are set in /etc/env.d/99pager and
>> /etc/env.d/99editor respectively, but creating a
>> /etc/env.d/99bashlineediting file containing "set -o vi" doesn't seem
>> to work.
> Either "set-editing-mode vi" in /etc/inputrc for all readline programs
> or in /etc/bash/bashrc (for bash-only)

I looked at /etc/inputrc, and its existing contents are of a different format.

Where all the other lines are of the form:
  "\eOH": beginning-of-line
  "\eOF": end-of-line
it felt a bit wrong to be adding "set-editing-mode vi". Hence me asking here. 
Is it foolish of me to think this?

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Change Readline mode for all users?

2017-09-19 Thread Stroller

> On 19 Sep 2017, at 01:25, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov  wrote:
> 
>> I find that my pager and editor are set in /etc/env.d/99pager and
>> /etc/env.d/99editor respectively, but creating a
>> /etc/env.d/99bashlineediting file containing "set -o vi" doesn't seem to
>> work.
> 
> 1) env-update
> 
> env.d is just the place where all the packages places their crap so 
> env-update 
> can take care of it and rebuild all the things properly (so, no need to allow 
> to edit system config directly (and accidentally brake them)

Sorry, I don't understand.

> 2) what you want is a bad idea.
> 
> I bet portage (which internally uses bash a lot) won't be happy with that

A setting for interactive bash use should not affect non-interactive bash 
scripts. If it does, I'd think it a bug.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting with Windows 10

2017-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 05:15:46 BST R0b0t1 wrote:

> Having checked bootctl's documentation it should be changing EFI variables
> (it may manage kernels also, I am not entirely sure). Are you sure this
> isn't related to the bug Mick mentioned? If it is then I am unsure why
> efibootmgr works.

What, efivars being mounted read-only? Quite sure. If I don't remount them 
read-write, "bootctl install" refuses to run at all.

> Now it's fixed (by using something else) and I can't expect you to care,
> but I am left perplexed.

I wonder. Just possibly this is a motherboard or UEFI BIOS problem (or one 
I've caused it). When I first received the machine I couldn't get grub to 
install and run, no matter what I tried. That was 18 months ago, since when 
it's been running apparently happily using bootctl.

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