Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist -- SOLVED!!!
On 9/7/2005 4:09 PM William Kenworthy wrote: If they worked previously, they are probably compiled into the kernel. I find this is a mistake unless you have a specific reason for doing so - being able to remove/add modules helps track down weird problems like I have no specific reason. I will note this for my next kernel build. this, and some things just work best as a module. I take it that it is a usb wireless mouse ? (coz of the batteries). If so, monitor the syslog while adding or removing the usb plug. If its recognised, you will see messages. I doubt the batteries are the problem as with a wireless mouse, its the base unit that when plugged in will cause the /dev node to be created and you dont have them. Kind of. It's a Logitech wireless mouse/keyboard combo. One of the outputs (I think it's the mouse) is USB but I have it plugged into one of those converter thingys so it is essentially a PS/2 mouse. The other output is a standard PS/2 jack. But your suggestion prompted me to unplug/plug the mouse in. Must have been loose because after doing so, I had /dev/input/mouse0 and after a reboot, X windows starts and the mouse works fine. Thanks for all of your help! Drew If I am wrong about the mouse, exactly what type of mouse and ports are you trying to use (as you have probably gathered, this has a bearing on whats happening) BillK On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 10:00 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 9:53 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: use lsmod to get the module list. The modules are usbmouse and psmouse (not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) . Note that you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have them. If they dont show in lsmod, try modprobe psmouse etc. Thanks for the reply. I have neither usbmouse nor psmouse in my lsmod output. Trying to load with modprobe doesn't work either: tv mythtv # modprobe psmouse FATAL: Module psmouse not found. tv mythtv # modprobe usbmouse FATAL: Module usbmouse not found. Because I haven't made any changes, I suspect my system never used them. I'll try changing the batteries in the mouse as another poster suggested. If that doesn't solve it, then I'll venture into this further. Thanks, Drew On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded? /dev/mouse is usually (on I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb. Sorry for the simple questions. What module should I look for? How can I check to see if it's loaded? newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it exists. /dev/input/mice is a concentrator. i.e., on my laptop I have a ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse. All three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time. Individually they are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX. Thanks for the explanation. To test try cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse - rubbish will print to terminal if its working. CTRL-C to exit. No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. Drew -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On 9/6/2005 10:00 PM Willie Wong wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 09:03:09PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. That means it is not an X problem, but a problem at the kernel (unlikely) or your hardware. You said it is part of a wireless combo? Try changing the battery. I also have a wireless mouse/keyboard combo from Logitech (actually Logitech rebranded as Acer), the keyboard runs on a single AAA for over two years now and is still going, but I've had to change the batteries for my mouse every three months. I think it has to do with the fact that it is an optical mouse and the little red LED just keeps going On my mouse, when the battery dies, the LED will still be working for a bit, but the batteries won't provide enough voltage to drive other electronics, and so while it seems like the mouse should work, it actually doesn't. This could be the problem as the mouse batteries have been in for at least 2 months. Like you, I assumed the mouse should work as it did the first time I rebooted because the red light is still on. I'll try it tonight when I get home. Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On 9/6/2005 9:53 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: use lsmod to get the module list. The modules are usbmouse and psmouse (not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) . Note that you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have them. If they dont show in lsmod, try modprobe psmouse etc. Thanks for the reply. I have neither usbmouse nor psmouse in my lsmod output. Trying to load with modprobe doesn't work either: tv mythtv # modprobe psmouse FATAL: Module psmouse not found. tv mythtv # modprobe usbmouse FATAL: Module usbmouse not found. Because I haven't made any changes, I suspect my system never used them. I'll try changing the batteries in the mouse as another poster suggested. If that doesn't solve it, then I'll venture into this further. Thanks, Drew On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded? /dev/mouse is usually (on I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb. Sorry for the simple questions. What module should I look for? How can I check to see if it's loaded? newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it exists. /dev/input/mice is a concentrator. i.e., on my laptop I have a ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse. All three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time. Individually they are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX. Thanks for the explanation. To test try cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse - rubbish will print to terminal if its working. CTRL-C to exit. No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
If they worked previously, they are probably compiled into the kernel. I find this is a mistake unless you have a specific reason for doing so - being able to remove/add modules helps track down weird problems like this, and some things just work best as a module. I take it that it is a usb wireless mouse ? (coz of the batteries). If so, monitor the syslog while adding or removing the usb plug. If its recognised, you will see messages. I doubt the batteries are the problem as with a wireless mouse, its the base unit that when plugged in will cause the /dev node to be created and you dont have them. If I am wrong about the mouse, exactly what type of mouse and ports are you trying to use (as you have probably gathered, this has a bearing on whats happening) BillK On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 10:00 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 9:53 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: use lsmod to get the module list. The modules are usbmouse and psmouse (not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) . Note that you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have them. If they dont show in lsmod, try modprobe psmouse etc. Thanks for the reply. I have neither usbmouse nor psmouse in my lsmod output. Trying to load with modprobe doesn't work either: tv mythtv # modprobe psmouse FATAL: Module psmouse not found. tv mythtv # modprobe usbmouse FATAL: Module usbmouse not found. Because I haven't made any changes, I suspect my system never used them. I'll try changing the batteries in the mouse as another poster suggested. If that doesn't solve it, then I'll venture into this further. Thanks, Drew On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded? /dev/mouse is usually (on I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb. Sorry for the simple questions. What module should I look for? How can I check to see if it's loaded? newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it exists. /dev/input/mice is a concentrator. i.e., on my laptop I have a ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse. All three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time. Individually they are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX. Thanks for the explanation. To test try cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse - rubbish will print to terminal if its working. CTRL-C to exit. No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist. I used to have this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any changes. What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my mouse detected? I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev. Nudges to an appropriate web page are welcome. I have been unsuccessful with Google. Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist. I used to have this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any changes. What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my mouse detected? I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev. Nudges to an appropriate web page are welcome. I have been unsuccessful with Google. Thanks, Drew I got the same problem some time ago. Try /dev/input/mice insted of /dev/input/mouse0. Andy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:11:44PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist. I used to have this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any changes. What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my mouse detected? I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev. Nudges to an appropriate web page are welcome. I have been unsuccessful with Google. Plan a) Does gpm work in text mode? If yes, cat /etc/conf.d/gpm and see what device it lists as being used. Plan b) Start off with the command ls -al -R /dev list.txt and view list.txt with your favourite editor or file-viewer. Look under /dev/input. Also check for /dev/mouse or /dev/mice or /dev/psaux or /dev/misc/. You should find something somewhere. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On 9/6/2005 1:24 PM Andreas Kerschbaumer wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist. I used to have this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any changes. What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my mouse detected? I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev. Nudges to an appropriate web page are welcome. I have been unsuccessful with Google. Thanks, Drew I got the same problem some time ago. Try /dev/input/mice insted of /dev/input/mouse0. Andy Thanks. I do have /dev/input/mice and putting that into xorg.conf solves the error. However the mouse doesn't work. Here is the relevant section of my xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Please note I only have one mouse. It part of a wireless Logitec mouse/keyboard combo and plugs into the standard PS/2 mouse socket. Thanks for your help. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On 9/6/2005 6:08 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:11:44PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote I can't start xorg as /dev/input/mouse0 doesn't exist. I used to have this working with the same hardware and don't recall making any changes. What things must be loaded or what should I check to get my mouse detected? I'm using 2.6.11 kernel with udev. Nudges to an appropriate web page are welcome. I have been unsuccessful with Google. Plan a) Does gpm work in text mode? If yes, cat /etc/conf.d/gpm and see what device it lists as being used. Thanks for your reply. I don't have gpm installed. Plan b) Start off with the command ls -al -R /dev list.txt and view list.txt with your favourite editor or file-viewer. Look under /dev/input. Also check for /dev/mouse or /dev/mice or /dev/psaux or /dev/misc/. You should find something somewhere. I'm not exactly sure what I should be looking for. I use this box to run MythTV. I know /dev/input/mouse0 used to exist and work. I've been away for 6 weeks. At one point while I was gone, the power went out at home. However today when I tried to get the system up and running, I booted, Xorg started, and MythTV started. I used a utility (as I have in the past) called nvtv to adjust the screen position. When using this, I set something wrong (as I have in the past) and the screen was no longer viewable via SVGA on my TV. As I've done previously, I used ssh from another computer and issued a 'shutdown -r now'. Ever since that reboot, xorg complains about /dev/input/mouse0 not being there. Here's the items I have from your suggestions: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Sep 6 06:16 /dev/misc crw-rw 1 root root 10, 1 Sep 6 06:16 psaux drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Sep 6 06:16 /dev/input crw-r--r-- 1 root root 13, 63 Sep 6 06:16 mice lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 6 06:16 /dev/psaux - misc/psaux Does any of this make sense? Thanks for your help. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded? /dev/mouse is usually (on newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it exists. /dev/input/mice is a concentrator. i.e., on my laptop I have a ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse. All three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time. Individually they are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX. To test try cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse - rubbish will print to terminal if its working. CTRL-C to exit. BillK On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 20:31 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 6:08 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 01:11:44PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:31:32PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote Here's the items I have from your suggestions: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Sep 6 06:16 /dev/misc crw-rw 1 root root 10, 1 Sep 6 06:16 psaux drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Sep 6 06:16 /dev/input crw-r--r-- 1 root root 13, 63 Sep 6 06:16 mice lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 6 06:16 /dev/psaux - misc/psaux Does any of this make sense? You can replace /dev/input/mouse0 in xorg.conf with any one of... /dev/input/mice or /dev/psaux or dev/misc/psaux. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded? /dev/mouse is usually (on I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb. Sorry for the simple questions. What module should I look for? How can I check to see if it's loaded? newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it exists. /dev/input/mice is a concentrator. i.e., on my laptop I have a ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse. All three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time. Individually they are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX. Thanks for the explanation. To test try cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse - rubbish will print to terminal if its working. CTRL-C to exit. No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
use lsmod to get the module list. The modules are usbmouse and psmouse (not sure if you have said what mouse type you are using) . Note that you will need to revisit your kernel configuration if you dont have them. If they dont show in lsmod, try modprobe psmouse etc. BillK On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 21:03 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 9/6/2005 8:49 PM W.Kenworthy wrote: The module thats responsible for /dev/input/mouse0 creates the node when it loads via udev: is the modules loaded? /dev/mouse is usually (on I come from the FreeBSD world and thus, I'm a linux newb. Sorry for the simple questions. What module should I look for? How can I check to see if it's loaded? newer systems) a symlink to /dev/input/mouse0 if it exists. /dev/input/mice is a concentrator. i.e., on my laptop I have a ps2 mouse (actually the gspot/touchpad) and a plugged in usb mouse. All three work through /dev/input/mice at the same time. Individually they are accessed via /dev/input/mouseX. Thanks for the explanation. To test try cat /dev/input/mice and move the mouse - rubbish will print to terminal if its working. CTRL-C to exit. No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/input/mouse0 Doesn't Exist
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 09:03:09PM -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote: No rubbish. Not working. Thanks for your help. That means it is not an X problem, but a problem at the kernel (unlikely) or your hardware. You said it is part of a wireless combo? Try changing the battery. I also have a wireless mouse/keyboard combo from Logitech (actually Logitech rebranded as Acer), the keyboard runs on a single AAA for over two years now and is still going, but I've had to change the batteries for my mouse every three months. I think it has to do with the fact that it is an optical mouse and the little red LED just keeps going On my mouse, when the battery dies, the LED will still be working for a bit, but the batteries won't provide enough voltage to drive other electronics, and so while it seems like the mouse should work, it actually doesn't. W -- For the relative problem is one in which the relative radius vectors...from one to the other? So, actually, I was wrong. Kepler was right after all. ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 26 days, 7:59 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
