Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing

2009-06-14 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Harry Putnam (rea...@newsguy.com) [12.06.09 18:15]:
> 
> I can sync fine... just didn't want to do an update world just now as
> my sources are quite new, but still didn't want to get sources too far
> ahead of installed packages.
> 

I think, you did not understand, what a sync does. It updates mostly 
ebuilds and not ever any source package.

And ebuilds are just recipes to build software from sources, so this has 
no impact on the software installed, as long as you don't want to 
rebuild a specific version, which is no longer in the tree. But even for 
this case there is the attic.

Gentoo's normal behaviour is frequent change. May you should consider 
the buildpkg option or quickpkg to have binary packages for all your 
installed software at hand, for quick recovery.

But syncing the portage tree at least weekly, most likely daily, is that 
what most Gentoo users do. So there is absolute no problem, especially 
if you are using the stable tree...

Sebastian

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[gentoo-user] Re: How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing

2009-06-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale  writes:

> I was thinking about NOT doing the emerge -u world part.  That would
> skip updating everything that has updates applied on your system.  Doing
> just a emerge -u procmail would only update procmail and the
> dependencies if any are needed. 
>
> Keep in mind, you can upgrade packages as needed without updating the
> whole system.  I wouldn't recommend this long term tho.  Those upgrades
> can add up pretty quick and come back to bite you later.  Going longer
> than a month or two on a Gentoo system without a update is not
> recommended. 

Sorry I failed to mention a world upgrade at this point involved 1
file, but I take your point still mine also holds.  

Why keep banging on procmail when by looking up the newest ebuild
online I can see it is not any different... hence the bug will
remain. 

I still say its handy to be able to look at the latest portage pkgs
when you feel the urge.   Nicer and less labor intensive than
upgrading anyghing really.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing

2009-06-12 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote:
> Dale  writes:
>
>   
>> You could always sync then do a emerge -uv procmail. then it would only
>> upgrade procmail and any friends that need to be updated.  That would
>> mostly likely miss most of the other updates that you are wanting to
>> skip for the moment.
>> 
>
> yeah... its a thought... but why emerge world then procmail again when
> I know it won't emerge unless something is done about the getline bug?
>
> I wanted to check in most recent portage to see if any changes were
> made to procmail.
>
>
>
>
>   

I was thinking about NOT doing the emerge -u world part.  That would
skip updating everything that has updates applied on your system.  Doing
just a emerge -u procmail would only update procmail and the
dependencies if any are needed. 

Keep in mind, you can upgrade packages as needed without updating the
whole system.  I wouldn't recommend this long term tho.  Those upgrades
can add up pretty quick and come back to bite you later.  Going longer
than a month or two on a Gentoo system without a update is not
recommended. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing

2009-06-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Dale  writes:

> You could always sync then do a emerge -uv procmail. then it would only
> upgrade procmail and any friends that need to be updated.  That would
> mostly likely miss most of the other updates that you are wanting to
> skip for the moment.

yeah... its a thought... but why emerge world then procmail again when
I know it won't emerge unless something is done about the getline bug?

I wanted to check in most recent portage to see if any changes were
made to procmail.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing

2009-06-12 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote:
> Stroller  writes:
>
>   
>> It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync.
>> If the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates
>> are unimportant.
>> 
>
> Thanks for the tips... no it was something totally mundane.
>
> I wanted to see if anything had been done to mail-filter/procmail
> about the install bug involving getline.
>
> I can sync fine... just didn't want to do an update world just now as
> my sources are quite new, but still didn't want to get sources too far
> ahead of installed packages.
>
> The handy urls given in this thread allowed me to see all I wanted.
> Thanks for the URLS posters...
>
>
>
>   

You could always sync then do a emerge -uv procmail. then it would only
upgrade procmail and any friends that need to be updated.  That would
mostly likely miss most of the other updates that you are wanting to
skip for the moment.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing

2009-06-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller  writes:

> It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync.
> If the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates
> are unimportant.

Thanks for the tips... no it was something totally mundane.

I wanted to see if anything had been done to mail-filter/procmail
about the install bug involving getline.

I can sync fine... just didn't want to do an update world just now as
my sources are quite new, but still didn't want to get sources too far
ahead of installed packages.

The handy urls given in this thread allowed me to see all I wanted.
Thanks for the URLS posters...