Re: [gentoo-user] Re: laptop/tablet convertibles linux compatibility
Excerpts from Hans's message of 2015-11-01 14:26:10 +0100: > On 01/11/15 19:53, Stefano Crocco wrote: > > Hello to everyone. > > > > I'd like to buy a laptop/tablet convertible and to install Gentoo on it. > > Searching Google I couldn't find up to date information about the linux > > compatibility of this kind of device (most of the pages I found are at > > least a > > couple of years old and at any rate, they give quite contradictory > > information). Does anyone know what the situation is like today in this > > regard? > > > > In particular, I'm looking to buy some of the less expensive convertibles, > > at > > most around 300€ (350$), as my needs for it are modest (basically, as I'm a > > teacher, I'd like to use it as a tablet in the classroom to record absent > > students, marks and so on instead of the very old tablet the school > > provided and > > to use it as a laptop to read e-books and write while traveling to school by > > bus). Looking on amazon, I found some models which could satisfy my needs: > > > > * Asus T100TAF-BING-DK024B [1] > > * Asus T100TAL-BING-DK034B [2] > > * Acer Aspire Switch W5-012-149A [3] > > * HP Pavilion x2 10-n002nl [4] > > > > Does anyone know whether they work with Gentoo? Are there any models which > > work > > well and that I overlooked? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Stefano > > > > [1] > > http://www.amazon.it/Asus-T100TAF-BING-DK024B-Transformer-Convertibile-Touchscreen/dp/B00SU7V1A8/ref=sr_1_1/280-8290032-6323628?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1446368786&sr=1-1 > > [2] http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00P0YRGW6/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza > > [3] > > http://www.amazon.it/Acer-Aspire-Switch-W5-012-149A-Convertibile/dp/B00PMCS2WO/ref=sr_1_3/280-8290032-6323628?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1446368786&sr=1-3 > > [4] > > http://www.amazon.it/HP-Pavilion-10-n002nl-Touchscreen-DDR3L-1600/dp/B011760S7K/ref=sr_1_5/276-5315837-3449853?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1446369891&sr=1-5 > > > > > I purchased during the last 10 years 2 Toshiba, 1 Gateway and 1 HP. They > all work with Gentoo. I tested them before purchase with OpenSuse and > Sabayon Live CD installed on a USB stick. Important points to test are > Wireless and Extended Function Keys. Do not buy from a dealer who does > not allow extensive testing before you pay or provide credit card details. > > The alternative is to buy from a Linux specialist with Gentoo installed. Thanks for the advice Stefano
[gentoo-user] Re: laptop/tablet convertibles linux compatibility
On 01/11/15 19:53, Stefano Crocco wrote: Hello to everyone. I'd like to buy a laptop/tablet convertible and to install Gentoo on it. Searching Google I couldn't find up to date information about the linux compatibility of this kind of device (most of the pages I found are at least a couple of years old and at any rate, they give quite contradictory information). Does anyone know what the situation is like today in this regard? In particular, I'm looking to buy some of the less expensive convertibles, at most around 300€ (350$), as my needs for it are modest (basically, as I'm a teacher, I'd like to use it as a tablet in the classroom to record absent students, marks and so on instead of the very old tablet the school provided and to use it as a laptop to read e-books and write while traveling to school by bus). Looking on amazon, I found some models which could satisfy my needs: * Asus T100TAF-BING-DK024B [1] * Asus T100TAL-BING-DK034B [2] * Acer Aspire Switch W5-012-149A [3] * HP Pavilion x2 10-n002nl [4] Does anyone know whether they work with Gentoo? Are there any models which work well and that I overlooked? Thanks in advance Stefano [1] http://www.amazon.it/Asus-T100TAF-BING-DK024B-Transformer-Convertibile-Touchscreen/dp/B00SU7V1A8/ref=sr_1_1/280-8290032-6323628?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1446368786&sr=1-1 [2] http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00P0YRGW6/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza [3] http://www.amazon.it/Acer-Aspire-Switch-W5-012-149A-Convertibile/dp/B00PMCS2WO/ref=sr_1_3/280-8290032-6323628?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1446368786&sr=1-3 [4] http://www.amazon.it/HP-Pavilion-10-n002nl-Touchscreen-DDR3L-1600/dp/B011760S7K/ref=sr_1_5/276-5315837-3449853?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1446369891&sr=1-5 I purchased during the last 10 years 2 Toshiba, 1 Gateway and 1 HP. They all work with Gentoo. I tested them before purchase with OpenSuse and Sabayon Live CD installed on a USB stick. Important points to test are Wireless and Extended Function Keys. Do not buy from a dealer who does not allow extensive testing before you pay or provide credit card details. The alternative is to buy from a Linux specialist with Gentoo installed.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Laptop Overheat
James [14-12-17 16:48]: > Grant Edwards gmail.com> writes: > > > > > When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid > > > close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get > > > proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. > > > Don't do that. ;) > > > > If I leave it open and on a table, everything is fine. > > > > Any ideas about where I should look? > > > The CPU heatsink, the fan, and any filters through which air moves. > > > You can alway open up a laptop's various covers and try to use compressed > air to blow out accumulated dust. > > With older, hot running laptops, particularly when compiling significant > amounts of packages, I use to put 1/2 inch wedges under each side to lift > up the bottom of the laptop from the table surface. This increases air flow > to the various fans and heat sinks, thus increasing the cooling system > efficiency. Make sure it's always has a clean, cool airflow in the room you > use it in. Heat is the enemy of all electronics, particularly if you want > the electronics to have a relatively long life > > hth, > James Hi all, ...is the laptop /reporting/ the problem (for example...a "shutting down...too high temperature!"-message is shown -- sorry I own none of these things...I am only asking... ;) or do you /feel/ the heat in form of hot air coming out of that beast? In case of the first...may be the heat conductive material between the CPU/GPU/nortbridge/southbridge dried out and the cooling cannot work anymore... Only my two cents... Best regards, Meino
[gentoo-user] Re: Laptop Overheat
Grant Edwards gmail.com> writes: > > When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid > > close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get > > proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. > Don't do that. ;) > > If I leave it open and on a table, everything is fine. > > Any ideas about where I should look? > The CPU heatsink, the fan, and any filters through which air moves. You can alway open up a laptop's various covers and try to use compressed air to blow out accumulated dust. With older, hot running laptops, particularly when compiling significant amounts of packages, I use to put 1/2 inch wedges under each side to lift up the bottom of the laptop from the table surface. This increases air flow to the various fans and heat sinks, thus increasing the cooling system efficiency. Make sure it's always has a clean, cool airflow in the room you use it in. Heat is the enemy of all electronics, particularly if you want the electronics to have a relatively long life hth, James
[gentoo-user] Re: Laptop Overheat
On 2014-12-16, Randy Westlund wrote: > When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid > close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get > proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. Don't do that. ;) > If I leave it open and on a table, everything is fine. [...] > Any ideas about where I should look? The CPU heatsink, the fan, and any filters through which air moves. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! How's the wife? at Is she at home enjoying gmail.comcapitalism?
[gentoo-user] Re: laptop screen goes dark in boot
On 04/21/2012 11:25 PM, Zhang Jun wrote: > laptop: asus F3TC, amd Turion, NV-go7300 > kernel-3.0.17-r1 tuxonice > > screen goes dark just after I see the linux boot logo, > when using kernel 2.6.x, I even do not use hotkey to control lcd backlight, > default light is ok, > but now, it goes dark, re-compiled kernel many times, but no luck, > > in kernel acpi config page, I did't see the "video" module, and seems no > /proc/acpi/video/ . > > is there anyone have met this problem and have solution ? If you can boot the machine with a recent rescue cd, you can see which kernel modules are in use and then configure your own kernel to use the same ones.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?
On 12/25/2007 10:19 AM Grant Edwards said the following: On 2007-12-25, Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board. lspci detects it as: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough. It's pretty hard to believe that the video hardware is the problem. I've played back DVDs on laptop ATI chipsets a decade older than yours and it worked fine. I've currently got a two year old ATI laptop chipset (X300?), and it has no trouble playing DVDs using either the Radeon or the fglrx drive. My guess is the optical drive doesn't have DMA enabled. DMA is enabled. If it were not, I would also expect to see the choppiness no matter what the video size. tagalong conf.d # hdparm /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: IO_support= 0 (default 16-bit) unmaskirq = 0 (off) using_dma = 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 256 (on) You may want to check to make sure the XV video overlay support is enabled, but even without it, playing back SD video purely in software shouldn't be a problem on anything with a CPU faster than 500MHz. How can I verify XV video overlay support? I'm sure my CPU is capable as its an AMD Turion dual core running at 1.6ghz. Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?
2007/12/25, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 2007-12-25, Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board. lspci > > detects it as: > > > > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon > > Xpress 1100 IGP] > > > > However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a > > bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough. > > It's pretty hard to believe that the video hardware is the > problem. I've played back DVDs on laptop ATI chipsets a decade > older than yours and it worked fine. I've currently got a two > year old ATI laptop chipset (X300?), and it has no trouble > playing DVDs using either the Radeon or the fglrx drive. > > My guess is the optical drive doesn't have DMA enabled. I think it's true :) Andras -- - - -- Csanyi Andras -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando -- "BÃzzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!".-- Cromwell ��í¢ï¿½z� ��(��&j)b� b�
[gentoo-user] Re: Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?
On 2007-12-25, Drew Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board. lspci > detects it as: > > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon > Xpress 1100 IGP] > > However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a > bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough. It's pretty hard to believe that the video hardware is the problem. I've played back DVDs on laptop ATI chipsets a decade older than yours and it worked fine. I've currently got a two year old ATI laptop chipset (X300?), and it has no trouble playing DVDs using either the Radeon or the fglrx drive. My guess is the optical drive doesn't have DMA enabled. You may want to check to make sure the XV video overlay support is enabled, but even without it, playing back SD video purely in software shouldn't be a problem on anything with a CPU faster than 500MHz. -- Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: laptop
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005, James wrote: > Warning, I'm not sure why, but some of these aforementioned diagnostic > tools are not part of the standard gentoo install CD. I was suprised to find lspci on the latest LiveCDs so I guess this is improving all the time. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: laptop
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 10:04, James wrote: > John Jolet jolet.net> writes: > > I need to have my company order me a new laptop, but obviously, i'll be > > putting gentoo on it. Does anyone have a recommendation for a very small > > 'n' light laptop known to be pretty much a slam dunk to get gentoo on > > (with sound and wireless, etc)? > > It's easy to get a machine that has updated (newer revisions) of critical > chipsets, which may or maynot work with linux drivers. > It's best to get a 2005.1 install CD and try to boot the machine up, before > purchase. Often I go to a big store and test things out before purchase. That's a great idea. I'll take my knoppix cd. I've never had that fail to work on a strange pc. > > You may what to ensure that critical tools 'lspci' and 'lshw' are on the CD > before trotting off to the store. Also, if the critical hardware is > usb basd, make sure you have the appropriate discovery tools on the CD > or a companion CD. Folks at Best Buy (USA) are always curious to let > me experiment with their windoz offerings. I've snagged a few gentoo > recruits this way. They offer to purchase the CD before I leave, and are > quite astonished when it is gifted to them. They look at Gentoo, as > a treasure revealing deep secrets about the hardware they are selling. > However, more often than not the discounted machine I'm looking > at has weird hardware or something that I do not like. For instance > using hdparm to profile the hard drive performance is another good > idea. Bargain bozes often have substandard HD, or wireless chipssets > that are mostly disfunctional, even under winblowz. > > Warning, I'm not sure why, but some of these aforementioned diagnostic > tools are not part of the standard gentoo install CD.Let me know if > you find an install CD that has lots of hardware diag tools as > part of the CD. I never seem to get around to building a customized > CD, just for this purpose, but surely someone else has created > a boot/diag/install version of 2005.* > > HTH, > > James -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: laptop
John Jolet jolet.net> writes: > I need to have my company order me a new laptop, but obviously, i'll be > putting gentoo on it. Does anyone have a recommendation for a very small 'n' > light laptop known to be pretty much a slam dunk to get gentoo on (with sound > and wireless, etc)? It's easy to get a machine that has updated (newer revisions) of critical chipsets, which may or maynot work with linux drivers. It's best to get a 2005.1 install CD and try to boot the machine up, before purchase. Often I go to a big store and test things out before purchase. You may what to ensure that critical tools 'lspci' and 'lshw' are on the CD before trotting off to the store. Also, if the critical hardware is usb basd, make sure you have the appropriate discovery tools on the CD or a companion CD. Folks at Best Buy (USA) are always curious to let me experiment with their windoz offerings. I've snagged a few gentoo recruits this way. They offer to purchase the CD before I leave, and are quite astonished when it is gifted to them. They look at Gentoo, as a treasure revealing deep secrets about the hardware they are selling. However, more often than not the discounted machine I'm looking at has weird hardware or something that I do not like. For instance using hdparm to profile the hard drive performance is another good idea. Bargain bozes often have substandard HD, or wireless chipssets that are mostly disfunctional, even under winblowz. Warning, I'm not sure why, but some of these aforementioned diagnostic tools are not part of the standard gentoo install CD.Let me know if you find an install CD that has lots of hardware diag tools as part of the CD. I never seem to get around to building a customized CD, just for this purpose, but surely someone else has created a boot/diag/install version of 2005.* HTH, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
