Re: [gentoo-user] Database only server

2010-01-12 Thread Laurent Kappler

Neil Walker a écrit :

Laurent Kappler wrote:
  

But there might be from 5 to a 100 e-commerce application with like
between 20 and 5000 products...so it can be small but it can looks
huge to me :)



So, what you are talking about is a really tiny database. Hmm. You could
run that pretty well using a straight text file on an 8 bit computer. ;)
If you
want scalability  for the future,  I still think  mysql  is  the best
option.


Be lucky,

Neil
http://www.the-workathome.com
 




  

...hm..I should install myodbc and use it to remotly request the db server?

Be strong, be wrong :)

Laurent



Re: [gentoo-user] Database only server

2010-01-12 Thread Neil Walker
Laurent Kappler wrote:
> But there might be from 5 to a 100 e-commerce application with like
> between 20 and 5000 products...so it can be small but it can looks
> huge to me :)

So, what you are talking about is a really tiny database. Hmm. You could
run that pretty well using a straight text file on an 8 bit computer. ;)
If you
want scalability  for the future,  I still think  mysql  is  the best
option.


Be lucky,

Neil
http://www.the-workathome.com
 




Re: [gentoo-user] Database only server

2010-01-12 Thread Laurent Kappler

Laurent Kappler a écrit :

Albert W. Hopkins a écrit :

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 15:15 +0100, Laurent Kappler wrote:
 

Hi,

I'm looking for some information about the configuration for a 
server used only for a huge database.
I guess dépendanding on which database server used Mysql or Berkley 
the hardware should not be same.

Or is it all about having a lot of RAM ?

Could I do that using only Mysql or is it possible to have Mysql and 
Berkley, or should I have just Berkley ... ?



Could you do *what*?

Do you mean Berkely DB?  Berkely DB isn't really a DBMS.  It's more of a
flat-file database.  It's not even relational, it's key->value based.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_DB

One could argue that MySQL isn't a real DBMS too but I won't get into
that ;-)

Anyway it's very difficult to answer your questions without knowing what
your requirments are (how large is "huge", how many simultaneous users,
anticipated queries/sec etc.)



  

:)
I would like to know more about a configuration with Two servers one 
for DB and one for Apache.
I would have no idea of the number of request right now, I would like 
to set up a scalable small structure first.
But there might be from 5 to a 100 e-commerce application with like 
between 20 and 5000 products...so it can be small but it can looks 
huge to me :)


For me Berkley DB was all loaded in RAM and those been very fast.
Even experimental I would like to set up something performant.

thx ;)
Laurent




ok now I see Berkley is a giant Hash table that would need some time to 
practice first to find specific use.

So I might have Mysql or you would recommend something else ?
And then instal BDB to experiment.
I searched google for info about configuring a server only for database 
but did not find anything relevent.

Where should I look?

Sorry to double post
Laurent



Re: [gentoo-user] Database only server

2010-01-12 Thread Laurent Kappler

Albert W. Hopkins a écrit :

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 15:15 +0100, Laurent Kappler wrote:
  

Hi,

I'm looking for some information about the configuration for a server 
used only for a huge database.
I guess dépendanding on which database server used Mysql or Berkley the 
hardware should not be same.

Or is it all about having a lot of RAM ?

Could I do that using only Mysql or is it possible to have Mysql and 
Berkley, or should I have just Berkley ... ?



Could you do *what*?

Do you mean Berkely DB?  Berkely DB isn't really a DBMS.  It's more of a
flat-file database.  It's not even relational, it's key->value based.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_DB

One could argue that MySQL isn't a real DBMS too but I won't get into
that ;-)

Anyway it's very difficult to answer your questions without knowing what
your requirments are (how large is "huge", how many simultaneous users,
anticipated queries/sec etc.)



  

:)
I would like to know more about a configuration with Two servers one for 
DB and one for Apache.
I would have no idea of the number of request right now, I would like to 
set up a scalable small structure first.
But there might be from 5 to a 100 e-commerce application with like 
between 20 and 5000 products...so it can be small but it can looks huge 
to me :)


For me Berkley DB was all loaded in RAM and those been very fast.
Even experimental I would like to set up something performant.

thx ;)
Laurent





Re: [gentoo-user] Database only server

2010-01-12 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 15:15 +0100, Laurent Kappler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking for some information about the configuration for a server 
> used only for a huge database.
> I guess dépendanding on which database server used Mysql or Berkley the 
> hardware should not be same.
> Or is it all about having a lot of RAM ?
> 
> Could I do that using only Mysql or is it possible to have Mysql and 
> Berkley, or should I have just Berkley ... ?

Could you do *what*?

Do you mean Berkely DB?  Berkely DB isn't really a DBMS.  It's more of a
flat-file database.  It's not even relational, it's key->value based.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_DB

One could argue that MySQL isn't a real DBMS too but I won't get into
that ;-)

Anyway it's very difficult to answer your questions without knowing what
your requirments are (how large is "huge", how many simultaneous users,
anticipated queries/sec etc.)




Re: [gentoo-user] Database only server

2010-01-12 Thread Neil Walker
Laurent Kappler wrote:
> I'm looking for some information about the configuration for a server
> used only for a huge database.
> I guess dépendanding on which database server used Mysql or Berkley
> the hardware should not be same.
> Or is it all about having a lot of RAM ?

I think you will find it's more about the disk sub-system than anything
else.

> Could I do that using only Mysql or is it possible to have Mysql and
> Berkley, or should I have just Berkley ... ?

My choice would be mysql. It's used for one of the largest databases on
the planet - s...@home. ;)


Be lucky,

Neil
http://www.wwseti.us






[gentoo-user] Database only server

2010-01-12 Thread Laurent Kappler

Hi,

I'm looking for some information about the configuration for a server 
used only for a huge database.
I guess dépendanding on which database server used Mysql or Berkley the 
hardware should not be same.

Or is it all about having a lot of RAM ?

Could I do that using only Mysql or is it possible to have Mysql and 
Berkley, or should I have just Berkley ... ?


Happy new year!!
Laurent