[gentoo-user] How do I turn my audio up?

2011-11-03 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo!

On my PC's audio, whilst playing CDs, with all volume settings maxed out,
the volume can't be said to be louder than comfortable and sensible.
In quiet passages, the music gets drowned out by the noise of the power
supply.  I know from plugging in my iPod that the loudspeakers are
capable of much more.

The three volume controls up at full are (i) the one in aqualung; (ii)
the one in alsamixer; (iii) the physical control on the right speaker.

Surely I can get more volume, somehow.  Could somebody please suggest
how.  TIA

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn my audio up?

2011-11-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo!

 On my PC's audio, whilst playing CDs, with all volume settings maxed out,
 the volume can't be said to be louder than comfortable and sensible.
 In quiet passages, the music gets drowned out by the noise of the power
 supply.  I know from plugging in my iPod that the loudspeakers are
 capable of much more.

 The three volume controls up at full are (i) the one in aqualung; (ii)
 the one in alsamixer; (iii) the physical control on the right speaker.

 Surely I can get more volume, somehow.  Could somebody please suggest
 how.  TIA

How are you playing the CDs?

I think there are 2 basic ways, either software (reading the data from
the disc and playing it), or via line-in (software simply issues
play command to the drive which outputs via the audio cable, or some
drives even have audio controls on the front panel).

If the former, the volume should be the same as if you play an MP3, for example.

If the latter, maybe you need to find the inputs in alsamixer and
boost them, if possible.



Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn my audio up?

2011-11-03 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo!

 On my PC's audio, whilst playing CDs, with all volume settings maxed out,
 the volume can't be said to be louder than comfortable and sensible.
 In quiet passages, the music gets drowned out by the noise of the power
 supply.  I know from plugging in my iPod that the loudspeakers are
 capable of much more.

 The three volume controls up at full are (i) the one in aqualung; (ii)
 the one in alsamixer; (iii) the physical control on the right speaker.

 Surely I can get more volume, somehow.  Could somebody please suggest
 how.  TIA

Check that PA isn't getting in the way somewhere.

Try using a different media player. See if you can find out if the
files' ReplayGain feature is or is not involved.

Check that you're outputting to the correct audio sink; I've had cases
where I *thought* things were working, but really quiet, and it turned
out that crosstalk was the only reason I was hearing anything.


-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn my audio up?

2011-11-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo!

 On my PC's audio, whilst playing CDs, with all volume settings maxed out,
 the volume can't be said to be louder than comfortable and sensible.
 In quiet passages, the music gets drowned out by the noise of the power
 supply.  I know from plugging in my iPod that the loudspeakers are
 capable of much more.

 The three volume controls up at full are (i) the one in aqualung; (ii)
 the one in alsamixer; (iii) the physical control on the right speaker.

 Surely I can get more volume, somehow.  Could somebody please suggest
 how.  TIA

 --
 Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Are you using powered or passive speakers? On my dad's machine he had
passive speakers and the Intel on-board audio just wouldn't get very
loud so we bought some powered speakers and things were fine. In my
office I've got some nice NHT Pro Powered Studio Monitors so I don't
have that problem.

If you're using headphones then check their impedance spec vs what the
MB says it's designed to drive, as well as the efficiency of the
headphones. I own some  AKG  Sony headphones. The Sony pair is _way_
louder than the AKG pair.

HTH,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn my audio up?

2011-11-03 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan Mackenzie writes:

 On my PC's audio, whilst playing CDs, with all volume settings maxed
 out, the volume can't be said to be louder than comfortable and
 sensible. In quiet passages, the music gets drowned out by the noise
 of the power supply.  I know from plugging in my iPod that the
 loudspeakers are capable of much more.
 
 The three volume controls up at full are (i) the one in aqualung; (ii)
 the one in alsamixer; (iii) the physical control on the right speaker.

The ONE in alsamixer? I have at least PCM, Front and CD, another PC also
has Master. Are you missing some of those? Is a channel muted (you
see 'MM' inmstead of a volume, use the M key to unmute)? Maybe you have to
scroll with the right arrow key to see those channels?

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn my audio up?

2011-11-03 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alex

On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 07:16:53PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote:
 Alan Mackenzie writes:

  On my PC's audio, whilst playing CDs, with all volume settings maxed
  out, the volume can't be said to be louder than comfortable and
  sensible. In quiet passages, the music gets drowned out by the noise
  of the power supply.  I know from plugging in my iPod that the
  loudspeakers are capable of much more.

  The three volume controls up at full are (i) the one in aqualung;
  (ii) the one in alsamixer; (iii) the physical control on the right
  speaker.

 The ONE in alsamixer? I have at least PCM, Front and CD, another PC
 also has Master. Are you missing some of those? Is a channel muted (you
 see 'MM' inmstead of a volume, use the M key to unmute)? Maybe you have
 to scroll with the right arrow key to see those channels?

Ah, that was the problem.  There are four effective volume controls in
alsamixer: master, PCM, front, and side.  They seem to multply together
(each in the range 0 to 1).  My side was only at ~30/100, the others
being around 80.

Now they're all set to 93/100, and the volume control on the speakers
works sensibly.

Why side?  What is PCM?

Presumably all these controls are for massive batteries of loudspeakers
right, left, centre and behind.

   Wonko

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn my audio up?

2011-11-03 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Paul.

On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 12:58:16PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
  Hi, Gentoo!

  On my PC's audio, whilst playing CDs, with all volume settings maxed out,
  the volume can't be said to be louder than comfortable and sensible.
  In quiet passages, the music gets drowned out by the noise of the power
  supply.  I know from plugging in my iPod that the loudspeakers are
  capable of much more.

  The three volume controls up at full are (i) the one in aqualung; (ii)
  the one in alsamixer; (iii) the physical control on the right speaker.

  Surely I can get more volume, somehow.  Could somebody please suggest
  how.  TIA

 How are you playing the CDs?

 I think there are 2 basic ways, either software (reading the data from
 the disc and playing it), or via line-in (software simply issues
 play command to the drive which outputs via the audio cable, or some
 drives even have audio controls on the front panel).

The CD is being read as data and converted to something which is fed to
the sound chip.

 If the former, the volume should be the same as if you play an MP3, for 
 example.

Could you suggest a good program to play MP3 files, please

 If the latter, maybe you need to find the inputs in alsamixer and
 boost them, if possible.

Yes, one of my alsamixer controls was too low.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn my audio up?

2011-11-03 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 Hi, Alex
 On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 07:16:53PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote:
 The ONE in alsamixer? I have at least PCM, Front and CD, another PC
 also has Master. Are you missing some of those? Is a channel muted (you
 see 'MM' inmstead of a volume, use the M key to unmute)? Maybe you have
 to scroll with the right arrow key to see those channels?

 Ah, that was the problem.  There are four effective volume controls in
 alsamixer: master, PCM, front, and side.  They seem to multply together
 (each in the range 0 to 1).  My side was only at ~30/100, the others
 being around 80.

 Now they're all set to 93/100, and the volume control on the speakers
 works sensibly.

 Why side?

Support for, e.g. 5.1 channel surround sound.

 What is PCM?

Pulse Code Modulation. A method of encoding audio data digitally. In
ALSA, this usually refers to applications' feeding audio data in via
purely-software means. (As opposed to via a sound card's onboard
input)

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] How do I turn my audio up?

2011-11-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 Could you suggest a good program to play MP3 files, please

I use mplayer for one-off playing of files, or Amarok for managing my
entire collection.