[gentoo-user] My X11 mouse icons have acquired unwanted borders. Help!

2011-10-16 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Gentoo!

I'm using Gnome 2.32.1 in X11.

My mouse pointers have all acquired unwanted borders.  That is to say,
where there used just to be a solid black arrow, it is now surrounded by
a black outline enclosing a white outline around the arrow.

I don't like this!  I didn't ask for it!

I first noticed this problem while starting Firefox.  It seemed to hiccup
a bit (I think), and then all pointers (in all applications) went bad.

I've looked inside Gnome preferences, but can't find a way to change
the pointers back.  I suspect this is an X setting rather than a Gnome
one.

Can anybody point me at a solution?

TIA,

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] My X11 mouse icons have acquired unwanted borders. Help!

2011-10-16 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
Does this happen on other WMs as well? To me, this sounds like a
driver issue. Some drivers (the binary nvidia one, namely) do have
some options to control the aspect of the pointer. I never played with
them so I don't know if this is one of the available options.

If you are using effects, try to disable them and see what happens.

Also, did you update the driver (whatever it is) recently?

-- 
Jesús Guerrero Botella



Re: [gentoo-user] My X11 mouse icons have acquired unwanted borders. Help!

2011-10-16 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Jesús.

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 01:41:21PM +0200, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote:
 Does this happen on other WMs as well?

Yes, it happens on xfce, too.

 To me, this sounds like a driver issue. Some drivers (the binary
 nvidia one, namely) do have some options to control the aspect of the
 pointer. I never played with them so I don't know if this is one of
 the available options.

 If you are using effects, try to disable them and see what happens.

I'm not using effects, as far as I know.

 Also, did you update the driver (whatever it is) recently?

Ah.  I synched yesterday, and a massive number of packages were updated,
among them xorg-drivers.  That'll be it, I suppose.

Presumably I can configure these drivers somewhere, perhaps in
~/.xinitrc?  Is there any documentation for this?

 -- Jesús Guerrero Botella

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] My X11 mouse icons have acquired unwanted borders. Help!

2011-10-16 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/10/16 Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de:
 Hi, Jesús.

 On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 01:41:21PM +0200, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote:
 Does this happen on other WMs as well?

 Yes, it happens on xfce, too.

That probably confirms it's not a gnome issue. The cursor is an X
thing, in any case.

 Also, did you update the driver (whatever it is) recently?

 Ah.  I synched yesterday, and a massive number of packages were updated,
 among them xorg-drivers.  That'll be it, I suppose.

That package is kind of a wrapper around the driver packages, which
are many. You install xorg-drivers as a dependency of xorg-server, and
depending on your VIDEO_CARDS settings in make.conf the relevant
driver packages are also pushed as dependencies into your system.


 Presumably I can configure these drivers somewhere, perhaps in
 ~/.xinitrc?  Is there any documentation for this?



Let us know what your driver is so we can give more concrete details.
But video drivers, just like any other thing that's part of X, can be
configured at /etc/X11/xorg.conf or, more recently, in separate files
under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/. Some drivers (like, again, the nvidia
binary one) do ship tools that can help you configure the driver by
writing to these files via a GUI frontend. The concrete options that
you can put into this files depend on the concrete driver. For
example, the man page for my driver (xf86-video-ati) can be seen by
using

# man radeon

There I can see all the available options.

If you let us know what driver are you using, then maybe someone who's
familiar with your driver can provide you with more accurate help.

-- 
Jesús Guerrero Botella



Re: [gentoo-user] My X11 mouse icons have acquired unwanted borders. Help!

2011-10-16 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 03:41:32PM +0200, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote:
 2011/10/16 Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de:

  On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 01:41:21PM +0200, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote:

 That probably confirms it's not a gnome issue. The cursor is an X
 thing, in any case.

  Also, did you update the driver (whatever it is) recently?

  Ah.  I synched yesterday, and a massive number of packages were updated,
  among them xorg-drivers.  That'll be it, I suppose.

 That package is kind of a wrapper around the driver packages, which
 are many. You install xorg-drivers as a dependency of xorg-server, and
 depending on your VIDEO_CARDS settings in make.conf the relevant
 driver packages are also pushed as dependencies into your system.

My setting is 'VIDEO_CARDS=radeonhd radeon'.  I've got two there
because I was never sure which one was the right one.  I've got a card
based on a Radeon HD4550  ;-(

  Presumably I can configure these drivers somewhere, perhaps in
  ~/.xinitrc?  Is there any documentation for this?


 Let us know what your driver is ...

Not quite sure what you mean here.  Do you mean my VIDEO_CARDS?  Other
than that, I've got two binary blobs in my kernel, radeon/R600_rlc.bin
and radeon/R700_rlc.bin.  (Again, I'm not sure which is the correct one.)

 ... so we can give more concrete details.  But video drivers, just like
 any other thing that's part of X, can be configured at
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf or, more recently, in separate files under
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/.

I'll go for a monolithic config rather than a fragmented one.  :-)

 Some drivers (like, again, the nvidia binary one) do ship tools that
 can help you configure the driver by writing to these files via a GUI
 frontend. The concrete options that you can put into this files depend
 on the concrete driver. For example, the man page for my driver
 (xf86-video-ati) can be seen by using

 # man radeon

 There I can see all the available options.

 If you let us know what driver are you using, then maybe someone who's
 familiar with your driver can provide you with more accurate help.

 -- 
 Jesús Guerrero Botella

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



Re: [gentoo-user] My X11 mouse icons have acquired unwanted borders. Help!

2011-10-16 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/10/16 Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de:
 On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 03:41:32PM +0200, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote:
 2011/10/16 Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de:

Your doubts come to an end. radeonhd is dead, completely, unless some
necromancy has happened secretly in the last months. You should by all
means be using radeon, not radeonhd. But don't take my word for it,
just read their home page:

http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd

 Not quite sure what you mean here.  Do you mean my VIDEO_CARDS?  Other
 than that, I've got two binary blobs in my kernel, radeon/R600_rlc.bin
 and radeon/R700_rlc.bin.  (Again, I'm not sure which is the correct one.)

That's firmware, other than having it installed, you don't need to
worry about that. Your driver will be picked by X if you don't have an
Xorg.conf file. I am not sure what the order of precedence is when
looking for drivers, but I'd expect radeon to take over radeonhd. Your
log file (usually at /var/log/Xorg.0.log) should clear everything up.

But before continuing this way, please, read the other mail I just
sent as response to Nikos above. Maybe all you need is to find how to
set the mouse pointer theme. Did you try changing it? Since I didn't
see your problem myself I have no idea if there's something unusual in
the way that X is displaying your pointer or if it's just that you
don't like the look of it.


-- 
Jesús Guerrero Botella