Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner [SOLVED]
On 02/27/2017 01:45 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 17:54:32 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> I just tried gscan2pdf. >> It does not offer auto-feed either; black borders still persist (so it >> must be an issue with Brother driver. > > Sounds like it. > >> In addition, I've noticed big difference is scan size of an image. >> Small receipt size: ~4in x 3in saved as pdf B/W in 200dpi resolution: >> >> gscan2pdf produced file size: 66.7kB >> xsane produce file size: 12.4kB > > File saving is a different process from scanning. For B/W scans, I use > djvu with gscan2pdf, the files are *much* smaller. Just for curiosity can you scan small piece of paper 4in x 3in in B/W 200dpi in PDF; see what size you get. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner [SOLVED]
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 17:54:32 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I just tried gscan2pdf. > It does not offer auto-feed either; black borders still persist (so it > must be an issue with Brother driver. Sounds like it. > In addition, I've noticed big difference is scan size of an image. > Small receipt size: ~4in x 3in saved as pdf B/W in 200dpi resolution: > > gscan2pdf produced file size: 66.7kB > xsane produce file size: 12.4kB File saving is a different process from scanning. For B/W scans, I use djvu with gscan2pdf, the files are *much* smaller. > So in file size perspective xsane produced much smaller size. > gscan2pdf provide crop tool to cut the borders, xsane does not have any > crop tools. Xsane doesn't need to provide image manipulation as it works as a GIMP plugin. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 01D: System crash - We are unable to figure out our own code. pgpXz4KrYpBZM.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner [SOLVED]
On 02/26/2017 11:42 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 10:34:24 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > The only annoying feature in this scanner is that doesn't have "auto crop" (windows does) auto-feeder does not work. Scanning small receipts showing black borders on both sides (snapscan borders are white - easier to fax, print). >>> >>> Is this a feature of the driver or the software you are using? I used >>> a Brother AIO devices with Gscan2pdf and the ADF worked fine. >> >> It might be the feature of the driver (I think). >> In Windows ADF works with Brother ADS-2400N but produces same black >> border on the side. So it must be Brother's driver. >> Snapscan 1500 - ADF doesn't work with "xsane" but side boarders are >> white. >> >> I was under impression "xsane" was the only scanner software available >> for Linux. > > SANE is the main backend driver software, but xsane is just a front end > to that which may or may not provide all the features you need. > >> I'll try gscan2pdf from overlay and report back. > > gscan2pdf is in the main tree now. I just tried gscan2pdf. It does not offer auto-feed either; black borders still persist (so it must be an issue with Brother driver. In addition, I've noticed big difference is scan size of an image. Small receipt size: ~4in x 3in saved as pdf B/W in 200dpi resolution: gscan2pdf produced file size: 66.7kB xsane produce file size: 12.4kB So in file size perspective xsane produced much smaller size. gscan2pdf provide crop tool to cut the borders, xsane does not have any crop tools. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner [SOLVED]
On 02/26/2017 11:42 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 10:34:24 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > The only annoying feature in this scanner is that doesn't have "auto crop" (windows does) auto-feeder does not work. Scanning small receipts showing black borders on both sides (snapscan borders are white - easier to fax, print). >>> >>> Is this a feature of the driver or the software you are using? I used >>> a Brother AIO devices with Gscan2pdf and the ADF worked fine. >> >> It might be the feature of the driver (I think). >> In Windows ADF works with Brother ADS-2400N but produces same black >> border on the side. So it must be Brother's driver. >> Snapscan 1500 - ADF doesn't work with "xsane" but side boarders are >> white. >> >> I was under impression "xsane" was the only scanner software available >> for Linux. > > SANE is the main backend driver software, but xsane is just a front end > to that which may or may not provide all the features you need. > >> I'll try gscan2pdf from overlay and report back. > > gscan2pdf is in the main tree now. I'll resync next month and do an upgrade, thank for the pointer. The black border on the scan (that I'm concern with right now) I think it has to do with Brother driver, as I have SnapScan S1500 and the border are white (suitable for printing, faxing etc.) I asked Brother support for a solution, will wait for their reply. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner [SOLVED]
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 10:34:24 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> The only annoying feature in this scanner is that doesn't have "auto > >> crop" (windows does) auto-feeder does not work. Scanning small > >> receipts showing black borders on both sides (snapscan borders are > >> white - easier to fax, print). > > > > Is this a feature of the driver or the software you are using? I used > > a Brother AIO devices with Gscan2pdf and the ADF worked fine. > > It might be the feature of the driver (I think). > In Windows ADF works with Brother ADS-2400N but produces same black > border on the side. So it must be Brother's driver. > Snapscan 1500 - ADF doesn't work with "xsane" but side boarders are > white. > > I was under impression "xsane" was the only scanner software available > for Linux. SANE is the main backend driver software, but xsane is just a front end to that which may or may not provide all the features you need. > I'll try gscan2pdf from overlay and report back. gscan2pdf is in the main tree now. -- Neil Bothwick Crash: (v.) to terminate a program in the usual fashion, i.e. by locking up the computer or setting fire to the printer. (n.) the process of such termination. pgpTOo_ktStS_.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner [SOLVED]
On 02/26/2017 03:10 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:31:16 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> However, following your suggestion I found "ebuild" in overlay for this >> scanner, so I reversed the installation and used ebuild: >> media-gfx/brother-ads2400n-bin >> >> The only annoying feature in this scanner is that doesn't have "auto >> crop" (windows does) auto-feeder does not work. Scanning small receipts >> showing black borders on both sides (snapscan borders are white - easier >> to fax, print). > > Is this a feature of the driver or the software you are using? I used a > Brother AIO devices with Gscan2pdf and the ADF worked fine. It might be the feature of the driver (I think). In Windows ADF works with Brother ADS-2400N but produces same black border on the side. So it must be Brother's driver. Snapscan 1500 - ADF doesn't work with "xsane" but side boarders are white. I was under impression "xsane" was the only scanner software available for Linux. I'll try gscan2pdf from overlay and report back. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner [SOLVED]
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 15:31:16 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > However, following your suggestion I found "ebuild" in overlay for this > scanner, so I reversed the installation and used ebuild: > media-gfx/brother-ads2400n-bin > > The only annoying feature in this scanner is that doesn't have "auto > crop" (windows does) auto-feeder does not work. Scanning small receipts > showing black borders on both sides (snapscan borders are white - easier > to fax, print). Is this a feature of the driver or the software you are using? I used a Brother AIO devices with Gscan2pdf and the ADF worked fine. -- Neil Bothwick I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. pgpf05bAYqP8e.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner [SOLVED]
On 02/24/2017 03:19 PM, Dale wrote: > the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> On 02/24/2017 02:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 24/02/2017 23:25, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I've a Brother scanner ADS-2400N connected via network port. [snip] > > Unless you are using portage to install the Brother drivers, I don't > think that setting will matter. Emerge takes note of settings there > when it is about to build packages. If you install a package by hand, > outside portage, it won't likely matter. > > I might add this for future reference. Before buying equipment, make > sure it works with Linux, the distro you use for sure. Some brands work > pretty easy but has some models that don't. HP for example generally > works however, I've seen certain models that have something unique about > them that causes them to not work at all or only certain limited > functions. In my experience Lexmark is one that I have never got to > work, any model. I avoid Lexmark like it's a disease. Scanners are in > the same boat as printers, since some have both built in. > > I've seen on this list where some seem to have got Brother to work. > Maybe a search of past threads would shed some light. They might have > some tiny snippet that helps get you on the road to success. > > Dale > > :-) :-) Apology for all those annoying questions. I was able to make it to work: rpm -ihv --nodeps brscan4-0.4.4-1.x86_64.rpm emerge -avq media-gfx/brother-scan3-bin brsaneconfig4 -a name=Brother model=ADC-2400N ip=10.0.0.138 I know, mixing portage with rpm is not a good idea. Brother ADS-2400N scanner works with USB, Network connection, duplex works as well. The mail reason I bought this scanner is that it can be connected to network and has TWAIN driver (my Fujitsu ScanSnap-junk doesn't have one). However, following your suggestion I found "ebuild" in overlay for this scanner, so I reversed the installation and used ebuild: media-gfx/brother-ads2400n-bin The only annoying feature in this scanner is that doesn't have "auto crop" (windows does) auto-feeder does not work. Scanning small receipts showing black borders on both sides (snapscan borders are white - easier to fax, print). I'll need to ask Brother support if it possible to change the borders to white background. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner
On 02/24/2017 01:46 PM, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > No, Brother only supply rpm or deb drivers. > I was able to use "rpm" to install brother driver this way, so it should > work with the scanner as well. > This is not always the case, I had a Dell printer using an RPM that would not install properly. It was placing files in places where Gentoo did not expect to see them. I unpacked it and installed it manually and got it working. The easiest way to install it is to see if there's an ebuild available in an overlay. Scanners can be picky in linux. I bought a Canon flatbad knowing it had support in linux. A newer model of the same line of scanner that I have is *not* supported properly in linux. To give you an idea. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner
On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:19:58 -0600, Dale wrote: > > I think I'm missing entry in make.conf: > > I have > > SANE_BACKENDS="epson2" > > > > but I'm not sure what to enter for brother scanner. > Unless you are using portage to install the Brother drivers, I don't > think that setting will matter. Emerge takes note of settings there > when it is about to build packages. If you install a package by hand, > outside portage, it won't likely matter. That's right, the setting tells portage which of the drivers from sane-backends you want installed. The Brother drivers aren't in sane-backends. > I've seen on this list where some seem to have got Brother to work. > Maybe a search of past threads would shed some light. They might have > some tiny snippet that helps get you on the road to success. I had a Brother AIO devices and did have it working. Search bugzilla for an ebuild for the Brother proprietary drivers. -- Neil Bothwick I've got a Mickey Mouse PC with a Goofy operating system. pgpwMozzGeWvl.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 02/24/2017 02:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 24/02/2017 23:25, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> I've a Brother scanner ADS-2400N connected via network port. >>> >>> - I edit: /etc/sane.d/saned.conf (entered my network address: 10.0.0.1) >>> - started: /etc/init.d/saned >>> - installed brother printer drivers: >>> rpm -ihv --nodeps brscan4-0.4.4-1.x86_64.rpm >>> >>> # brsaneconfig4 -q |grep 2400 >>> 65 "ADS-2400N" >>> >>> but when I run as user: "scanimage -L" >>> device `epson2:libusb:002:003' is a Epson GT-9300 flatbed scanner >>> >>> only my epson scanner is showing up, NO Brother scanner is detected. >>> >>> What am I missing? >> >> Maybe that you are using a Red Hat package manager on a Gentoo machine? >> Or that you wanted to ask fedora-user and sent it to gentoo-user by mistake? > I think I'm missing entry in make.conf: > I have > SANE_BACKENDS="epson2" > > but I'm not sure what to enter for brother scanner. > > -- > Thelma > > Unless you are using portage to install the Brother drivers, I don't think that setting will matter. Emerge takes note of settings there when it is about to build packages. If you install a package by hand, outside portage, it won't likely matter. I might add this for future reference. Before buying equipment, make sure it works with Linux, the distro you use for sure. Some brands work pretty easy but has some models that don't. HP for example generally works however, I've seen certain models that have something unique about them that causes them to not work at all or only certain limited functions. In my experience Lexmark is one that I have never got to work, any model. I avoid Lexmark like it's a disease. Scanners are in the same boat as printers, since some have both built in. I've seen on this list where some seem to have got Brother to work. Maybe a search of past threads would shed some light. They might have some tiny snippet that helps get you on the road to success. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner
On 02/24/2017 02:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 24/02/2017 23:25, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I've a Brother scanner ADS-2400N connected via network port. >> >> - I edit: /etc/sane.d/saned.conf (entered my network address: 10.0.0.1) >> - started: /etc/init.d/saned >> - installed brother printer drivers: >> rpm -ihv --nodeps brscan4-0.4.4-1.x86_64.rpm >> >> # brsaneconfig4 -q |grep 2400 >> 65 "ADS-2400N" >> >> but when I run as user: "scanimage -L" >> device `epson2:libusb:002:003' is a Epson GT-9300 flatbed scanner >> >> only my epson scanner is showing up, NO Brother scanner is detected. >> >> What am I missing? > > > Maybe that you are using a Red Hat package manager on a Gentoo machine? > Or that you wanted to ask fedora-user and sent it to gentoo-user by mistake? I think I'm missing entry in make.conf: I have SANE_BACKENDS="epson2" but I'm not sure what to enter for brother scanner. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner
On 24/02/2017 23:46, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 02/24/2017 02:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 24/02/2017 23:25, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> I've a Brother scanner ADS-2400N connected via network port. >>> >>> - I edit: /etc/sane.d/saned.conf (entered my network address: 10.0.0.1) >>> - started: /etc/init.d/saned >>> - installed brother printer drivers: >>> rpm -ihv --nodeps brscan4-0.4.4-1.x86_64.rpm >>> >>> # brsaneconfig4 -q |grep 2400 >>> 65 "ADS-2400N" >>> >>> but when I run as user: "scanimage -L" >>> device `epson2:libusb:002:003' is a Epson GT-9300 flatbed scanner >>> >>> only my epson scanner is showing up, NO Brother scanner is detected. >>> >>> What am I missing? >> >> >> Maybe that you are using a Red Hat package manager on a Gentoo machine? >> Or that you wanted to ask fedora-user and sent it to gentoo-user by mistake? > > No, Brother only supply rpm or deb drivers. > I was able to use "rpm" to install brother driver this way, so it should > work with the scanner as well. I see. Should != will, and assume is the mother of all fuckups Well, I'm not here to fix every problem you encounter and judging by the sheer amount of posting you make and the level of content, I have to conclude that you are assuming we are. What steps have YOU taken to try figure this out and actually help yourself? Saying that you installed an rpm on a Gentoo machine and stuff don't work, what's wrong? is not the expected level of troubleshooting. I think you should google for "How to ask smart questions" by Eric S. Raymond -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner
On 02/24/2017 02:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 24/02/2017 23:25, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I've a Brother scanner ADS-2400N connected via network port. >> >> - I edit: /etc/sane.d/saned.conf (entered my network address: 10.0.0.1) >> - started: /etc/init.d/saned >> - installed brother printer drivers: >> rpm -ihv --nodeps brscan4-0.4.4-1.x86_64.rpm >> >> # brsaneconfig4 -q |grep 2400 >> 65 "ADS-2400N" >> >> but when I run as user: "scanimage -L" >> device `epson2:libusb:002:003' is a Epson GT-9300 flatbed scanner >> >> only my epson scanner is showing up, NO Brother scanner is detected. >> >> What am I missing? > > > Maybe that you are using a Red Hat package manager on a Gentoo machine? > Or that you wanted to ask fedora-user and sent it to gentoo-user by mistake? No, Brother only supply rpm or deb drivers. I was able to use "rpm" to install brother driver this way, so it should work with the scanner as well. -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] Network scanner
On 24/02/2017 23:25, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I've a Brother scanner ADS-2400N connected via network port. > > - I edit: /etc/sane.d/saned.conf (entered my network address: 10.0.0.1) > - started: /etc/init.d/saned > - installed brother printer drivers: > rpm -ihv --nodeps brscan4-0.4.4-1.x86_64.rpm > > # brsaneconfig4 -q |grep 2400 > 65 "ADS-2400N" > > but when I run as user: "scanimage -L" > device `epson2:libusb:002:003' is a Epson GT-9300 flatbed scanner > > only my epson scanner is showing up, NO Brother scanner is detected. > > What am I missing? Maybe that you are using a Red Hat package manager on a Gentoo machine? Or that you wanted to ask fedora-user and sent it to gentoo-user by mistake? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Network scanner
I've a Brother scanner ADS-2400N connected via network port. - I edit: /etc/sane.d/saned.conf (entered my network address: 10.0.0.1) - started: /etc/init.d/saned - installed brother printer drivers: rpm -ihv --nodeps brscan4-0.4.4-1.x86_64.rpm # brsaneconfig4 -q |grep 2400 65 "ADS-2400N" but when I run as user: "scanimage -L" device `epson2:libusb:002:003' is a Epson GT-9300 flatbed scanner only my epson scanner is showing up, NO Brother scanner is detected. What am I missing? -- Thelma
Re: [gentoo-user] network scanner not seen by xsane on *some* systems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07.07.2012 02:35, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I have one network (a linksys) to which all my devices are attached. I have two laptops running ~amd64 and one desktop running amd64. I have one scanner, an hp officejet 7310 that is (wired) ethernet attached. When I try xsane from either laptop I receive the popup saying that no devices are found. From the desktop all is well. I can print to the 7310 from all three machines. I can ping the 7310 from all machines. I would appreciate suggestions for finding the problem. thanks, allan Hi, have you checked that the users on the laptops are members of the scanner group? WKR Hinnerk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJP+EgzAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYcnIwH/A/NWGYQbn+udTEHYR3QX2U1 +GU6JPyPhoOwgEa8mpI65nmM+b0e6Wr9QYS6O1nFtk7ZQVKHdNAaQbf/Y/pRHMGm E3nWIe/+uz/1IfbSWPUqwZujC1x5UVagAGDWF0EI05kdQDF7S+ONBoY+hQlrMmnQ FJLv5IiqUSrYJqI7y9LJy8ENSX00nwVeOKJ71Cx0X2i0XquTiw2Fb1Y4tsgXt7yS aaBhJhxR6mFbM1S19Logd97FuOJob3n2Vkp6+z1+8Fmu7X2dbJrk+B/WrCsmh5yo 1V96PdwxLz8F2ATV3bX7AaAwqLLyOMycQASPLYd+MeuEgkiD0+/slNr5osXVi4g= =aG+5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] network scanner not seen by xsane on *some* systems
On Sat, Jul 07 2012, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: On 07.07.2012 02:35, Allan Gottlieb wrote: I have one network (a linksys) to which all my devices are attached. I have two laptops running ~amd64 and one desktop running amd64. I have one scanner, an hp officejet 7310 that is (wired) ethernet attached. When I try xsane from either laptop I receive the popup saying that no devices are found. From the desktop all is well. I can print to the 7310 from all three machines. I can ping the 7310 from all machines. I would appreciate suggestions for finding the problem. thanks, allan Hi, have you checked that the users on the laptops are members of the scanner group? WKR Hinnerk Yes, the user (me) is a member. thanks, allan
[gentoo-user] network scanner not seen by xsane on *some* systems
I have one network (a linksys) to which all my devices are attached. I have two laptops running ~amd64 and one desktop running amd64. I have one scanner, an hp officejet 7310 that is (wired) ethernet attached. When I try xsane from either laptop I receive the popup saying that no devices are found. From the desktop all is well. I can print to the 7310 from all three machines. I can ping the 7310 from all machines. I would appreciate suggestions for finding the problem. thanks, allan
