Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

2023-10-08 Thread Dale 
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 13:55:05 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> Actually, I went to the latest version in the tree, 6.5, and got the
>> message it likely won't work.  I went back to a version the message said
>> should work, 6.1.  It still doesn't work.  It may be the driver, it may
>> not be. 
> What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you?
>
>


I was in a hurry so I didn't look.  When I got time, I'll reboot and
save the logs so I can see them and look for clues or if I can't see
anything, post to see if someone else does. 

It could be that my particular card has a issue with that driver version
and kernel version.  Maybe a update later will fix that.  I dunno.  I
just went back to my older kernel and got my system up and running
again.  I got quite a bit going on at the moment so it may be a while
before I get back around to it.  I been trying to update to a newer
kernel for over a year now.  o_O  Always something. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

2023-10-08 Thread Neil Bothwick 
On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 13:55:05 -0500, Dale wrote:

> Actually, I went to the latest version in the tree, 6.5, and got the
> message it likely won't work.  I went back to a version the message said
> should work, 6.1.  It still doesn't work.  It may be the driver, it may
> not be. 

What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

2023-10-07 Thread Dale 
Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:18 AM Dale  > wrote:
> 
> >
> > My first kernel, emerge prechecks warned that it wasn't and might or
> might not work.  So, I went back to a version that it claims is
> supported.  I have to say tho, the nvidia site wasn't very helpful. 
> The messages when emerging nvidia-drivers was a lot more help.  That
> said, it does load the drivers.  They are listed with lsmod.  Given
> the kernel is on my main rig, it's harder to test since I don't reboot
> often.  At some point, I may start a thread about it if a update or
> something doesn't fix it.  After all, current kernel is working just
> fine.
> >
> > I just thought it worthwhile to follow this problem since it might
> help or give clues on things to look into.  Might be related, might not.
> >
> Hi Dale,
>
> So assuming I understand your situation, you built nvidia-drivers to
> work with 
> 6.1.55 - but got no GUI. The build told you it might not work and it
> didn't.
>
> You went back to an earlier kernel and it does work.
>
> I don't think you shared what NVidia card is in this machine, and
> I don't think you shared what version of NVidia drivers worked
> with the old kernel and what version didn't work with the new kernel?
>
> - Mark


Actually, I went to the latest version in the tree, 6.5, and got the
message it likely won't work.  I went back to a version the message said
should work, 6.1.  It still doesn't work.  It may be the driver, it may
not be.  I could have left something new out in the kernel that it needs
but I didn't know it.  It could be any number of things.  At some point
when I got time to mess with it, I'm going to boot into the kernel that
doesn't work and save the log files, sddm, Xorg etc.  Then maybe it will
have a clue as to the problem. 

Until then I just want to sort of follow this to see if it might help
with my problem.  If not, oh well. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  My pack of drives arrived early.  Running SMART test on them
now.  :-D

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

2023-10-07 Thread Mark Knecht 
On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:18 AM Dale  wrote:

>
> My first kernel, emerge prechecks warned that it wasn't and might or
might not work.  So, I went back to a version that it claims is supported.
I have to say tho, the nvidia site wasn't very helpful.  The messages when
emerging nvidia-drivers was a lot more help.  That said, it does load the
drivers.  They are listed with lsmod.  Given the kernel is on my main rig,
it's harder to test since I don't reboot often.  At some point, I may start
a thread about it if a update or something doesn't fix it.  After all,
current kernel is working just fine.
>
> I just thought it worthwhile to follow this problem since it might help
or give clues on things to look into.  Might be related, might not.
>
Hi Dale,

So assuming I understand your situation, you built nvidia-drivers to work
with
6.1.55 - but got no GUI. The build told you it might not work and it didn't.

You went back to an earlier kernel and it does work.

I don't think you shared what NVidia card is in this machine, and
I don't think you shared what version of NVidia drivers worked
with the old kernel and what version didn't work with the new kernel?

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

2023-10-07 Thread Dale 
Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:01 AM Dale  > wrote:
> >
> > Peter Böhm wrote:
> > > Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2023, 14:42:48 CEST schrieb Nuno Silva:
> > >
> > >> I'm not sure it's fair to say it'll be easier in the webforum. [...]
> > > I think everything has its advantages and disadvantages. I
> suggested the forum
> > > because there are also some Gentoo developers active there. If a
> problem
> > > requires several different experts (because I don't know
> everything either)
> > > it's certainly faster and easier there than here. I would also like to
> > > emphasize that it was only a suggestion.
> > >
> > >> It is worth it mentioning the issue there, though, as somebody
> there who
> > >> is not reading this list might know what is going on.
> > > I am one of the moderators of the forum and therefore read every
> new thread
> > >
> > > ;-)
> >
> > I haven't been following all of this thread but I recently built a
> > kernel 6.1.55 and it boots fine but no GUI.  I made sure the symlink is
> > pointing to the right kernel, re-emerged nvidia-drivers and such but
> > still no joy.  If a thread is started there, could someone post a link
> > here?  I'd like to follow this to see if anything helps me with my
> > issue, although it is different, it may have a similar solution.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-)  :-)
>
> Have you triple checked the NVidia site to make sure your
> new kernel is actually supported by the driver you're building.
>
> Sometimes they are delayed by a bit.
>
> HTH,
> Mark


My first kernel, emerge prechecks warned that it wasn't and might or
might not work.  So, I went back to a version that it claims is
supported.  I have to say tho, the nvidia site wasn't very helpful.  The
messages when emerging nvidia-drivers was a lot more help.  That said,
it does load the drivers.  They are listed with lsmod.  Given the kernel
is on my main rig, it's harder to test since I don't reboot often.  At
some point, I may start a thread about it if a update or something
doesn't fix it.  After all, current kernel is working just fine. 

I just thought it worthwhile to follow this problem since it might help
or give clues on things to look into.  Might be related, might not. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

2023-10-07 Thread Mark Knecht 
On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 9:01 AM Dale  wrote:
>
> Peter Böhm wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2023, 14:42:48 CEST schrieb Nuno Silva:
> >
> >> I'm not sure it's fair to say it'll be easier in the webforum. [...]
> > I think everything has its advantages and disadvantages. I suggested
the forum
> > because there are also some Gentoo developers active there. If a problem
> > requires several different experts (because I don't know everything
either)
> > it's certainly faster and easier there than here. I would also like to
> > emphasize that it was only a suggestion.
> >
> >> It is worth it mentioning the issue there, though, as somebody there
who
> >> is not reading this list might know what is going on.
> > I am one of the moderators of the forum and therefore read every new
thread
> >
> > ;-)
>
> I haven't been following all of this thread but I recently built a
> kernel 6.1.55 and it boots fine but no GUI.  I made sure the symlink is
> pointing to the right kernel, re-emerged nvidia-drivers and such but
> still no joy.  If a thread is started there, could someone post a link
> here?  I'd like to follow this to see if anything helps me with my
> issue, although it is different, it may have a similar solution.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

Have you triple checked the NVidia site to make sure your
new kernel is actually supported by the driver you're building.

Sometimes they are delayed by a bit.

HTH,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

2023-10-07 Thread Dale 
Peter Böhm wrote:
> Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2023, 14:42:48 CEST schrieb Nuno Silva:
>
>> I'm not sure it's fair to say it'll be easier in the webforum. [...]
> I think everything has its advantages and disadvantages. I suggested the forum
> because there are also some Gentoo developers active there. If a problem
> requires several different experts (because I don't know everything either)
> it's certainly faster and easier there than here. I would also like to
> emphasize that it was only a suggestion.
>
>> It is worth it mentioning the issue there, though, as somebody there who
>> is not reading this list might know what is going on.
> I am one of the moderators of the forum and therefore read every new thread
>
> ;-)

I haven't been following all of this thread but I recently built a
kernel 6.1.55 and it boots fine but no GUI.  I made sure the symlink is
pointing to the right kernel, re-emerged nvidia-drivers and such but
still no joy.  If a thread is started there, could someone post a link
here?  I'd like to follow this to see if anything helps me with my
issue, although it is different, it may have a similar solution. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

2023-10-07 Thread Peter Böhm 
Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2023, 14:42:48 CEST schrieb Nuno Silva:

> I'm not sure it's fair to say it'll be easier in the webforum. [...]

I think everything has its advantages and disadvantages. I suggested the forum
because there are also some Gentoo developers active there. If a problem
requires several different experts (because I don't know everything either)
it's certainly faster and easier there than here. I would also like to
emphasize that it was only a suggestion.

> It is worth it mentioning the issue there, though, as somebody there who
> is not reading this list might know what is going on.

I am one of the moderators of the forum and therefore read every new thread

;-)

[gentoo-user] Re: 6.1.53-gentoo-r1 kernel not booting

2023-10-07 Thread Nuno Silva 
On 2023-10-07, Peter Böhm wrote:

> Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2023, 08:28:01 CEST schrieb Valmor de Almeida:
>
>> -> mount /dev/nvme0n1p4 /mnt/gentoo
>> mout: /mnt/gentoo: can't read superblock on /dev/nvme0n1p4.
>
> Maybe we need to dig a little deeper. Maybe you are using LVM (or have an
> encrypted root partition; or both).
>
>> -> dmesg
>>
>> [snip]
>> nvme nvme0: controller is down; will reset: 
>> nvme nvme0: Does your device have a faulty power saving mode enabled?
>> [snip]
>> EXT4-fs (nvme0n1p4): unable to read superblock
>>
>> I am still able to boot with the old kernel 6-1-41-gentoo.
>> Does this mean I may have a hardware problem with the NVMe drive?
>
> I dont think you have a hardware problem because with 6.41 you have no
> problems.
>
> For me the following questions would arise:
>
> a) How did you install the kernel 6.1.41 ? (genkernel; dist-kernel; manual
> approach)
> b) Did you make any kernel configuration changes in your 6.1.41 ?
> c) Do you use a bootmanager ? (which ?; grub, refind ?)
> d) How did you update to 6.1.53 ? (every step)
>
> To better understand your system, I would look at the output of
> "parted -l" (complete),
> "dmesg" (complete),
> "lspci -k" and
> "emerge --info"
> (after you have booted 6.1.41).
>
> To clarify all this here via the mailing list might be difficult; therefore I
> would suggest to create a thread in our Gentoo support forum:
>
> https://forums.gentoo.org/
>
> (I am there also; but we have also a lot of great experts there)
>
> If you create a thread in our forum, then please use wgetpaste for big files:
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wgetpaste

I'm not sure it's fair to say it'll be easier in the webforum. For the
files, if you go the wgetpaste/"pastebin" route, you can add addresses
to e-mail messages too (although that creates the inconvenience of not
being in the message and requiring a separate fetch).

Does the gentoo webforum actually support *threads*, and not just
*topics*? A lot of webforum software packages seem to support only the
concept of topics, which would mean conversations are actually easier to
navigate via mailing list or network news (i.e. gmane).


It is worth it mentioning the issue there, though, as somebody there who
is not reading this list might know what is going on.


-- 
Nuno Silva