Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:49:50 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>>> I always do both except I use the lower case 'u'. I started using
>>> Gentoo back in 2003.  Over the years, I added/changed options to
>>> emerge until I got a good sane system that works as expected and is
>>> stable. My command is emerge -auDN world and it has worked for years.
>>>  
>> Once upon a time, a little over 20 years ago, I did some studying, and
>> I searched mailing lists postings for recommendations, and I settled
>> on
>>
>>   emerge -auvND 
> I used that for a while, except like Dale I prefer to not use -v (I like
> the quiet life) but I switched to -U (--changed-use) to lower the number
> of unnecessary rebuilds.
>
>


What gets me, I have -v in make.conf for the default options.  I
shouldn't add it to the command line but I'm so used to doing so, I type
it in anyway.  It's a habit I just can't seem to break.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:49:50 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:

> > I always do both except I use the lower case 'u'. I started using
> > Gentoo back in 2003.  Over the years, I added/changed options to
> > emerge until I got a good sane system that works as expected and is
> > stable. My command is emerge -auDN world and it has worked for years.
> >  
> 
> Once upon a time, a little over 20 years ago, I did some studying, and
> I searched mailing lists postings for recommendations, and I settled
> on
> 
>   emerge -auvND 

I used that for a while, except like Dale I prefer to not use -v (I like
the quiet life) but I switched to -U (--changed-use) to lower the number
of unnecessary rebuilds.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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He who play in root, eventually kill tree!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2023-04-11, Dale  wrote:
>> the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N
>> I always do both except I use the lower case 'u'. I started using
>> Gentoo back in 2003.  Over the years, I added/changed options to emerge
>> until I got a good sane system that works as expected and is stable. My
>> command is emerge -auDN world and it has worked for years.
> Once upon a time, a little over 20 years ago, I did some studying, and
> I searched mailing lists postings for recommendations, and I settled
> on
>
>   emerge -auvND 
>
> I've been using that ever since on a handful of machines. I'd have to
> spend a few minutes reading the man page to remember the significance
> of a couple of the flags, but I note that differs only in verbosity
> from Dale's usage.
>
> --
> Grant

I need to add something.  I always forget the default options I have in
make.conf.  This is the options I put in there.

EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--with-bdeps y --backtrack=500 --keep-going -v
--quiet-build=y -1 --unordered-display --jobs=6 --load-average 8"

I added with-bdeps ages ago to correct some issues.  After I had to use
it a few times to fix issues, I added it to the default.  I used to have
backtrack set to 100.  After a while 100 just didn't allow it to go deep
enough.  I tried higher settings until I reached 500.  I don't recall
ever having to increase it manually since.  The -1 keeps my world file
clean.  If I want to add something to the world file, I use the --select
y option to bypass it.  The others are pretty obvious and are more of a
personal preference or based on my CPU etc. 

I might add, it is rare that emerge can't find a path to do updates. 
Other than known bugs, it's also rare that I have problems with things
not working with software, unless it is me doing something wrong of
course.  :/

Hope this helps, someone at least. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Re: emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-04-11, Dale  wrote:
> the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N
>
> I always do both except I use the lower case 'u'. I started using
> Gentoo back in 2003.  Over the years, I added/changed options to emerge
> until I got a good sane system that works as expected and is stable. My
> command is emerge -auDN world and it has worked for years.

Once upon a time, a little over 20 years ago, I did some studying, and
I searched mailing lists postings for recommendations, and I settled
on

  emerge -auvND 

I've been using that ever since on a handful of machines. I'd have to
spend a few minutes reading the man page to remember the significance
of a couple of the flags, but I note that differs only in verbosity
from Dale's usage.

--
Grant