Re: [gentoo-user] Using both Gnome and KDE Plasma?

[Mart Raudsepp]

On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 19:24 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 18:52:34 +0200, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> 
> > That said, the global USE flag manual copy to make.conf might get
> > outdated; e.g. we plan to add USE=wayland as global default to
> > gnome
> > profile at some point soon(tm). 
> 
> Could you source it from make.conf rather than copying the contents?
> That
> way you'll keep up with the profile changes.

Not sure, probably not a good idea, but the next sentence that you cut
from the reply gave an (untested) option right there in that e-mail...

Re: [gentoo-user] Using both Gnome and KDE Plasma?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 18:52:34 +0200, Mart Raudsepp wrote:

> That said, the global USE flag manual copy to make.conf might get
> outdated; e.g. we plan to add USE=wayland as global default to gnome
> profile at some point soon(tm). 

Could you source it from make.conf rather than copying the contents? That
way you'll keep up with the profile changes.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Q: What's the proper plural of a 'Net-connected Windows machine?
A: A Botnet


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Re: [gentoo-user] Using both Gnome and KDE Plasma?

[Mart Raudsepp]

On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 18:48 +0200, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 01:16 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > One user wants Gnome, the other wants Plasma. Is this doable?
> > 
> > Currently, Plasma is installed, and the profile is:
> > 
> >    default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma/systemd
> > 
> > The profiles seem to be either-or. There's one for plasma, one for 
> > gnome. But I need both now :-/
> 
> They just provide ease of installation by enabling some USE flags
> globally or per-package for you, to avoid having to add them manually
> on a fresh install or so.
> 
> You can create a local mix-in by having /etc/portage/make.profile as
> a
> directory with an eapi and parent file, but that has some caveats, so
> given that I leave the details to find out elsewhere when desired.
> Or you can just use one and add the stuff for the other manually,
> verbatim or as-needed.
> What they do can be seen in
> profiles/targets/desktop/gnome
> profiles/targets/desktop/plasma
> subdirectories of your PORTDIR (probably /usr/portage/)
> 
> The global USE flags each adds are in make.defaults file and the per-
> package USE flag tweaks are in package.use files.
> 
> So you could for example keep using the systemd plasma profile, add
> the
> global USE flags from
> /usr/portage/profiles/targets/desktop/gnome/make.defaults to your
> make.conf and symlink
> /usr/portage/profiles/targets/desktop/gnome/package.use to a
> gnome.use
> file under /etc/portage/package.use/ directory or so and voilà, you
> got
> effectively both.

That said, the global USE flag manual copy to make.conf might get
outdated; e.g. we plan to add USE=wayland as global default to gnome
profile at some point soon(tm). Though make.defaults could be symlinked
as well, I think to /etc/portage/profile/make.defaults
Though these changes are rare, and it's a convenience anyways, e.g. you
might have decided to globally enable wayland earlier already; or once
the change is made you might counter it with a global disable in
make.conf anyways.

Re: [gentoo-user] Using both Gnome and KDE Plasma?

[Mart Raudsepp]

On Thu, 2018-01-25 at 01:16 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> One user wants Gnome, the other wants Plasma. Is this doable?
> 
> Currently, Plasma is installed, and the profile is:
> 
>    default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma/systemd
> 
> The profiles seem to be either-or. There's one for plasma, one for 
> gnome. But I need both now :-/

They just provide ease of installation by enabling some USE flags
globally or per-package for you, to avoid having to add them manually
on a fresh install or so.

You can create a local mix-in by having /etc/portage/make.profile as a
directory with an eapi and parent file, but that has some caveats, so
given that I leave the details to find out elsewhere when desired.
Or you can just use one and add the stuff for the other manually,
verbatim or as-needed.
What they do can be seen in
profiles/targets/desktop/gnome
profiles/targets/desktop/plasma
subdirectories of your PORTDIR (probably /usr/portage/)

The global USE flags each adds are in make.defaults file and the per-
package USE flag tweaks are in package.use files.

So you could for example keep using the systemd plasma profile, add the
global USE flags from
/usr/portage/profiles/targets/desktop/gnome/make.defaults to your
make.conf and symlink
/usr/portage/profiles/targets/desktop/gnome/package.use to a gnome.use
file under /etc/portage/package.use/ directory or so and voilà, you got
effectively both.

Re: [gentoo-user] Using both Gnome and KDE Plasma?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 01:16:07 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

> One user wants Gnome, the other wants Plasma. Is this doable?
> 
> Currently, Plasma is installed, and the profile is:
> 
>default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma/systemd
> 
> The profiles seem to be either-or. There's one for plasma, one for 
> gnome. But I need both now :-/

The differences between the profiles are mainly the USE flags set. As
your system is already built with the plasma profiles, I'd add gnome to
your USE flags and emerge gnome-base/gnome. Portage will shout at you if
you need to enable any other USE flags.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

When you finally buy enough memory, you will not have enough disk space.
 -- Murphy's Computer Laws n\xB03


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Re: [gentoo-user] Using both Gnome and KDE Plasma?

[R0b0t1]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 5:16 PM, Nikos Chantziaras  wrote:
> One user wants Gnome, the other wants Plasma. Is this doable?
>
> Currently, Plasma is installed, and the profile is:
>
>   default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma/systemd
>
> The profiles seem to be either-or. There's one for plasma, one for gnome.
> But I need both now :-/
>

Pick the desktop profile with no DE. Install kde-plasma/plasma-meta
and gnome-base/gnome. There should be a drop down in your display
manager that will allow you to select which DE to launch. If your
desktop manager is associated with a DE this may be harder to find. I
suggest SDDM.

Beware, sir. The Gnome foot is the left, or sinister, foot.

Cheers,
 R0b0t1

Re: [gentoo-user] Using both Gnome and KDE Plasma?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 24 January 2018 23:16:07 GMT Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> One user wants Gnome, the other wants Plasma. Is this doable?
> 
> Currently, Plasma is installed, and the profile is:
> 
>default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma/systemd
> 
> The profiles seem to be either-or. There's one for plasma, one for
> gnome. But I need both now :-/

Choose the desktop profile?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

[gentoo-user] Using both Gnome and KDE Plasma?

[Nikos Chantziaras]

One user wants Gnome, the other wants Plasma. Is this doable?

Currently, Plasma is installed, and the profile is:

  default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma/systemd

The profiles seem to be either-or. There's one for plasma, one for 
gnome. But I need both now :-/