Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Hello
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:00:51AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > The last time I looked, portage compiles were Gentoo-specific too. If
> > you want to change where portage uses for its workspace, it is much
> > safer to use the provided configuration settings than move the whole
> > of a system-critical directory to an unreliable medium.
>
> Going slightly OT here, but does anyone know which ebuilds are the big
> ones using lots of space in /var/tmp when compiling? Apart from OOo
> that is :-)
Depends what is big for your machine. gcc was huge for that machine,
xorg too, mutt was only big…
Have a nice day
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Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Hello On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 11:35:25PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:01:24 +0200, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: > > > portage can use any directory you like for its workspace, you don't > > > have to remote mount /var to achieve this. You could mount /var/tmp > > > over NFS, but setting PORTAGE_TMPDIR is less kludgy. > > > > Well, seems on the same level for me, but that is only personal > > preference. > > It's not the same at all. you are advocating mounting the whole of /var > on a networked filesystem, which could affect the performance of the > system as a whole. Yes, which I was glad - the NFS filesystem was faster than local disk :D But that is not the point, as nothing run at the time (the machine had enough anyway). Have a nice day -- Wait few minutes before opening this email. The temperature difference could lead to vapour condensation. Michal "vorner" Vaner pgpqCDZci6OcY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 20:27:58 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > Or change it for OOo builds only. > > > > I keep forgetting to do stuff like that and only find out 4 hours into > > an 8 hour emerge :-) > > I wonder if you could do this in /etc/portage/env? You cannot. Setting CHECKREQS_ACTION="error" in /etc/make.conf should work though. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:41:36 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere where the space would be useful at > > other times too, like /home. > > That's a good idea - I didn't think of that No, I did - which means there's probably some hidden gotcha waiting in it :( > > Or change it for OOo builds only. > > I keep forgetting to do stuff like that and only find out 4 hours into > an 8 hour emerge :-) I wonder if you could do this in /etc/portage/env? -- Neil Bothwick When you said you wanted to live in sin, I didn't know you meant "sloth" signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:46:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I ask because I need to rezise my /var to minimize wasted space. I > > know for sure I have remerged QT and mozilla (with USE= -gnome) > > recently without problems with just over 1G free. I hate having 5G > > lying there doing nothing until I remerge OOo :-) > > Set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere where the space would be useful at > other times too, like /home. That's a good idea - I didn't think of that > Or change it for OOo builds only. I keep forgetting to do stuff like that and only find out 4 hours into an 8 hour emerge :-) alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:46:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > I ask because I need to rezise my /var to minimize wasted space. I know > for sure I have remerged QT and mozilla (with USE= -gnome) recently > without problems with just over 1G free. I hate having 5G lying there > doing nothing until I remerge OOo :-) Set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere where the space would be useful at other times too, like /home. Or change it for OOo builds only. -- Neil Bothwick Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle: The location of all objects cannot be known simultaneously. Corollary: If a lost thing is found, something else will disappear. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Wayne Oliver wrote: > > Going slightly OT here, but does anyone know which ebuilds are the > > big ones using lots of space in /var/tmp when compiling? Apart from > > OOo that is :-) > > > > alan > > Just guessing now I would add QT and Mozilla. I ask because I need to rezise my /var to minimize wasted space. I know for sure I have remerged QT and mozilla (with USE= -gnome) recently without problems with just over 1G free. I hate having 5G lying there doing nothing until I remerge OOo :-) So I'm considering keeping about 1G free for /var/tmp and switching to openoffice-bin alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
> -Original Message- > From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 17 April 2007 11:01 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with > gentoo? > > On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > The last time I looked, portage compiles were Gentoo-specific too. If > > you want to change where portage uses for its workspace, it is much > > safer to use the provided configuration settings than move the whole > > of a system-critical directory to an unreliable medium. > > Going slightly OT here, but does anyone know which ebuilds are the big > ones using lots of space in /var/tmp when compiling? Apart from OOo > that is :-) > > alan Just guessing now I would add QT and Mozilla. Wayn0 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote: > The last time I looked, portage compiles were Gentoo-specific too. If > you want to change where portage uses for its workspace, it is much > safer to use the provided configuration settings than move the whole > of a system-critical directory to an unreliable medium. Going slightly OT here, but does anyone know which ebuilds are the big ones using lots of space in /var/tmp when compiling? Apart from OOo that is :-) alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:01:24 +0200, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: > > > Now you can mount /var remotely (portage compiles there and needs > > > lots of space) - this way you need only the space for installed > > > programs, not compiling and compile on other machine using distcc. > > > > portage can use any directory you like for its workspace, you don't > > have to remote mount /var to achieve this. You could mount /var/tmp > > over NFS, but setting PORTAGE_TMPDIR is less kludgy. > > Well, seems on the same level for me, but that is only personal > preference. It's not the same at all. you are advocating mounting the whole of /var on a networked filesystem, which could affect the performance of the system as a whole. > But the point with this one is - PORTAGE_TMPDIR (besides, > isn't it PORTAGE_WORKDIR?) No, it's PORTAGE_TMPDIR, check your make.conf. > is gentoo specific, but you can do the > mounting just anywhere. The last time I looked, portage compiles were Gentoo-specific too. If you want to change where portage uses for its workspace, it is much safer to use the provided configuration settings than move the whole of a system-critical directory to an unreliable medium. -- Neil Bothwick User-friendly: (adj.) trivialized, slow, incapable, and boring. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Hello, On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 09:53:54PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Hello Michal 'vorner' Vaner, > > > Now you can mount /var remotely (portage compiles there and needs lots > > of space) - this way you need only the space for installed programs, not > > compiling and compile on other machine using distcc. > > portage can use any directory you like for its workspace, you don't have > to remote mount /var to achieve this. You could mount /var/tmp over NFS, > but setting PORTAGE_TMPDIR is less kludgy. Well, seems on the same level for me, but that is only personal preference. But the point with this one is - PORTAGE_TMPDIR (besides, isn't it PORTAGE_WORKDIR?) is gentoo specific, but you can do the mounting just anywhere. Anyway, the point is probably clear… With regards -- Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. -- Samuel Goldwyn Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpoXkeZBR1ry.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Hello Michal 'vorner' Vaner, > Now you can mount /var remotely (portage compiles there and needs lots > of space) - this way you need only the space for installed programs, not > compiling and compile on other machine using distcc. portage can use any directory you like for its workspace, you don't have to remote mount /var to achieve this. You could mount /var/tmp over NFS, but setting PORTAGE_TMPDIR is less kludgy. -- Neil Bothwick Data to Picard: 'No, Captain, I do NOT run WINDOWS!' signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Hello On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:16:58PM +, b.n. wrote: > Hi, > > I have looked a bit for this but I've found nothing. > I'd like to create an installable disk ready-to-install on another old, low > specs machine that cannot bear a Gentoo install by itself. > > The logic would be: > - create a chroot environment > - install a subgentoo in it > - emerge the needed sw in the subgentoo, tweak etc. > - create an installable medium <--??? > - install on the old box > > The "installable" needs not to be complete... I can install Grub by myself > on the box, for example, and just copy the files of the subgentoo on the > partitions. > > However I'd like to see some tutorial/advice/whatever about it. This is not exactly what you have asked for, but I did install this way on an old machine (1.5GB disc, 48MB ram) and it worked. You need to: • Get some space for swap and create partitions • Unpack the stage tarball (preferably stage3) • Install nfs (that time, I had to compile kernel for it, but I hope the today livecd has one nfs-capable). • Install distcc Now you can mount /var remotely (portage compiles there and needs lots of space) - this way you need only the space for installed programs, not compiling and compile on other machine using distcc. It is more or less install the usual way, but with a great help of other computer by network. The advantage is, you can keep updating the system the same way. Have a nice day -- This is a terroristic email. It will explode in 10 minutes, if you do not close it in the meantime. Michal "vorner" Vaner pgpsxjXgWJYAI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
2007. 04. 13, péntek keltezéssel 23.16-kor b.n. ezt írta: > Hi, > > I have looked a bit for this but I've found nothing. > However I'd like to see some tutorial/advice/whatever about it. > > m. Hi, Try out catalyst, which is part of portage. It is easy to create a custom own livecd. >From livecd, you can rsync its content (from /mnt/livecd/) to hdd and you can customize. For example my "distribution" is a customized livecd, which is capable to install it to hdd (i686 optimized) and focused to server functionalities. ftp://ftp.linuxforum.hu/magenta/releases/x86/livecd here you can see glivecd.0.0.1.iso The learning curve is funny ;) With catalyst, you can make uptodate stages etc. It is a really great tool. Everybody able to make an own release :) Regards, István -- IT szolgáltatások, alkalmazásszolgáltatás http://www.osbusiness.hu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
