Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
On Thursday 26 April 2007 14:15, Iain Buchanan wrote: Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the annoying thing is the video files are named in hex: MOV001 MOV002 At least its more logical than the totally braindead naming scheme on Nokia phones: 26042007.jpg 26042007(001).jpg 26042007(002).jpg so in short, is there any way around this? Can I tell nautilus to stop being clever? I had a look in the options, but I can't find it. Isn't there a saying amongst Gnome people - Our way or no way! :) (There's always `emerge -C gnome; emerge kde` but I don't know if that will fix everything ;) Yeah, good old konq just does the right thing :) -- Crayon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 00:27 +0800, Crayon wrote: On Thursday 26 April 2007 14:15, Iain Buchanan wrote: (There's always `emerge -C gnome; emerge kde` but I don't know if that will fix everything ;) Yeah, good old konq just does the right thing :) just to confirm that konqueror sorts the right way, could you run this little one-liner script? And then tell me how it looks in konq? mkdir test-sort; cd test-sort; for ((i=1; i=30; i++)); do touch `printf MOV%03X.MOV\n $i`; done; cd ..; ls -l test-sort If anyone else wants to run it in their file-browser of choice, and let me know how it's ordered, I'd be grateful too :) thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do. Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do. -- Mark Twain -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
On Thursday 03 May 2007 09:55, Iain Buchanan wrote: Yeah, good old konq just does the right thing :) just to confirm that konqueror sorts the right way, I had tested konq before making the above claim :) could you run this little one-liner script? And then tell me how it looks in konq? mkdir test-sort; cd test-sort; for ((i=1; i=30; i++)); do touch `printf MOV%03X.MOV\n $i`; done; cd ..; ls -l test-sort Looks good to me, same as shell output. -- Crayon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
Hi Boyd, on Friday, 2007-04-27 at 02:09:18, you wrote: Adjust your LC_ALL, LC_COLLATE, and/or LANG environment variables. (At least, Nautilus /should/ respect those.) You might have to do something like: LC_ALL=POSIX nautilus from a xterm-like application. Usually the collation order should be the same on the shell and in nautilus, right? I think it's really some of what the Gnome folks think was clever in that case---nautilus also completely ignores certain name prefixes like + and _ I put there to have the entries sorted on top. Fortunately, Thunar does no such tricks. You can use env | grep ^L from a new xterm-like seesion to see what nautilus sees by default. Or locale :) BTW, your signature did not validate on this post. Do you have no-escape-from-lines enabled? Then the last line above would have been the reason. cheers! Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpNHsqQSRS4d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 14:29 +0200, Matthias Bethke wrote: Usually the collation order should be the same on the shell and in nautilus, right? one would think so, but this isn't the case... I think it's really some of what the Gnome folks think was clever in that case yes and no - I understand clever if they sort, for example, 1.xxx, 2.xxx ... 9.xxx, 10.xxx; which previously has always been sorted 1.xxx, 10.xxx, 2.xxx ...; but I don't understand clever with regard to the backwards-hexadecimal sorting. Why does 'A' come before '1'? ---nautilus also completely ignores certain name prefixes like + and _ I put there to have the entries sorted on top. Fortunately, Thunar does no such tricks. well, thunar looks great - I just installed it hoping it would help my hexadecimal files, but unfortunately it suffers from the same problem as nautilus here. thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au How do I love thee? My accumulator overflows. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
On Thursday 26 April 2007 01:15:17 Iain Buchanan wrote: recently I borrowed (and will probably soon buy a related model) a JVC HD HD video camera. (The first HD is for high def!). Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the annoying thing is the video files are named in hex: MOV001 MOV002 MOV003 ... MOV009 MOV00A MOV00B ... MOV00F MOV010 and so on. But when nautilus displays the files, it decides to do it cleverly, and sorts all the 001 to 009, 010 to 019, etc. files _after_ all the 00A to 00F, 01A to 01F files, which is in completely the wrong order, so trying to categorise / edit the files becomes a pain, as the more files I have, the further out of place they get! `ls` doesn't sort it like nautilus - it does what I expect and puts it in the right order. Adjust your LC_ALL, LC_COLLATE, and/or LANG environment variables. (At least, Nautilus /should/ respect those.) You might have to do something like: LC_ALL=POSIX nautilus from a xterm-like application. You can use env | grep ^L from a new xterm-like seesion to see what nautilus sees by default. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpnQu2xGs02Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
Hi all, recently I borrowed (and will probably soon buy a related model) a JVC HD HD video camera. (The first HD is for high def!). Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the annoying thing is the video files are named in hex: MOV001 MOV002 MOV003 ... MOV009 MOV00A MOV00B ... MOV00F MOV010 and so on. But when nautilus displays the files, it decides to do it cleverly, and sorts all the 001 to 009, 010 to 019, etc. files _after_ all the 00A to 00F, 01A to 01F files, so I end up with this: MOV00A MOV00B ... MOV00F MOV01A ... MOV001 MOV002 MOV003 ... MOV009 MOV010 MOV011 ... which is in completely the wrong order, so trying to categorise / edit the files becomes a pain, as the more files I have, the further out of place they get! `ls` doesn't sort it like nautilus - it does what I expect and puts it in the right order. so in short, is there any way around this? Can I tell nautilus to stop being clever? I had a look in the options, but I can't find it. (There's always `emerge -C gnome; emerge kde` but I don't know if that will fix everything ;) TIA, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Gomme's Laws: (1) A backscratcher will always find new itches. (2) Time accelerates. (3) The weather at home improves as soon as you go away. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
On 4/25/07, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, recently I borrowed (and will probably soon buy a related model) a JVC HD HD video camera. (The first HD is for high def!). Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the annoying thing is the video files are named in hex: SNIP which is in completely the wrong order, so trying to categorise / edit the files becomes a pain, as the more files I have, the further out of place they get! `ls` doesn't sort it like nautilus - it does what I expect and puts it in the right order. so in short, is there any way around this? Can I tell nautilus to stop being clever? I had a look in the options, but I can't find it. (There's always `emerge -C gnome; emerge kde` but I don't know if that will fix everything ;) TIA, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Assuming the files are time stamped then sort by date time instead of by name? HTH, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 04:41 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: On 4/25/07, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, recently I borrowed (and will probably soon buy a related model) a JVC HD HD video camera. (The first HD is for high def!). Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the annoying thing is the video files are named in hex: SNIP which is in completely the wrong order, so trying to categorise / edit the files becomes a pain, as the more files I have, the further out of place they get! `ls` doesn't sort it like nautilus - it does what I expect and puts it in the right order. so in short, is there any way around this? Can I tell nautilus to stop being clever? I had a look in the options, but I can't find it. (There's always `emerge -C gnome; emerge kde` but I don't know if that will fix everything ;) Assuming the files are time stamped then sort by date time instead of by name? Good idea, but they get timestamped to the local time when they get copied to my PC. I could copy them with -a (?) but that doesn't help the ones I have already... thanks! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au There is a great discovery still to be made in Literature: that of paying literary men by the quantity they do NOT write. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
