Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-22 Thread Andrey Vul
1) Stop the cdrtools vs cdrkit flamewar.
2) I meant HFS+ partition, not Apple extensions to UDF (i.e.
generating a dmg file that, for all intents and purposes, is
indistinguishable from one made in Disk Utility.app or whatever Macs
use to generate DMGs).
3) What I meant was, how to make a hfs *plus* hybrid cd, not hfs
*classic* hybrid cd.
I.e.
/
/foo
/foo/bar.app
/foo/bar.app/Icon\r
/foo/bar.app/qwertyasdf.mpkg
/foo/bar.app/qwertyasdf.mpkg/...
...
/foo/bar.exe
/readme.txt
with *.app, *.mpkg being in HFS+ and *.exe being in ISO9660/Joliet. I
know Toast does this with a fancy GUI, but I don't have the money for
a Mac nor the time to install Hackint0sh in VMware. I was asking if
cdr$foo (or any other *nix-compatible iso maker) does this by passing
a zillion -hide and -hide-hfs parameters (or via fancy GUI, I honestly
don't care)?
-- 
Andrey Vul



Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-20 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [19.09.08 18:42]:
 
 It seems that you missunderstand things. The people behind cdrkit are on a 
 crusade against free software. 
 
 
 The fact that many people by default use the Debian fork that is outdated, 
 buggy, violates GPL and Copyright makes it obvios that people still need the
 bit more background information I added to my mail.
 

We are on the gentoo *user* list: Most people here can't change any 
default. If you want to change that default: goto gentoo-dev and 
complain there.

But still this is gentoo: so everyone has the choice to use whatever 
software is in portage.

But I just said, that you should point the people to how they can use 
portage to install your solution.


Sebastian Why the heck I'm helping you? I won't use any of your 
software Günther

 Jörg
 

BTW: You still did not proove your accuses about the copyright 
violations. And if you have proove, please submit it to 
gpl-violations.org.

And do link or quote them on your infamous website.

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Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW: You still did not proove your accuses about the copyright 
 violations. And if you have proove, please submit it to 

It would help if you did not try to bend facts.

I recommend you to read my website for the related information.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-20 Thread Dale

Joerg Schilling wrote:

Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
BTW: You still did not proove your accuses about the copyright 
violations. And if you have proove, please submit it to 



It would help if you did not try to bend facts.

I recommend you to read my website for the related information.

Jörg

  



Sebastian Günther wrote:


BTW: You still did not proove your accuses about the copyright 
violations. And if you have proove, please submit it to 
gpl-violations.org.


And do link or quote them on your infamous website.

  
According to his previous post, he has already looked at your website.  
I quoted it above in case it slipped by.  ;-)


Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-20 Thread Dale

Joerg Schilling wrote:

Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
According to his previous post, he has already looked at your website.  



Well, then he would be knowingly spreading lies. Is this what you intend to 
tell me?


Jörg

  


Well, no.  I just posted that he already looked at your website and 
didn't see it.  I guess you can make of it whatever you want tho.  It 
*seems* like you are putting words in my mouth anyway so . . . .


Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 20 September 2008 18:24:04 Dale wrote:
 Joerg Schilling wrote:
  Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  According to his previous post, he has already looked at your website.
 
  Well, then he would be knowingly spreading lies. Is this what you intend
  to tell me?
 
  Jörg

 Well, no.  I just posted that he already looked at your website and
 didn't see it.  I guess you can make of it whatever you want tho.  It
 *seems* like you are putting words in my mouth anyway so . . . .

If there is a god up there, he is going to stop this thread dead in it's 
tracks RIGHT NOW.

Dale, did you miss the last one?

Joerg, we went through this very very recently. It was not pleasant but you 
were given ample platform to air your views, and you used that opportunity. 
Most of us known how you feel, those who don't can search Google.

This is not your list, it is gentoo's use support list. It is appropriate to 
discuss the usage of your very fine software here. Judging by the sheer 
number of requests you received the last time to stop, it can probably be 
safely assumed that discussion of the alleged crusade against free software 
by a Debian faction, and your counter-crusade against them, probably does not 
constitute a welcome discussion.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-20 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, no.  I just posted that he already looked at your website and 
 didn't see it.  I guess you can make of it whatever you want tho.  It 
 *seems* like you are putting words in my mouth anyway so . . . .

The OP had a technical question and this question has been answered.
In addition, the OP has been given an explanation on the background 
because I believew that he has the right to know about it.

Could you explain me why you are tring to convert this thread into something 
that looks like bashing?

Jörg

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[gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-19 Thread Andrey Vul
Unfortunately, genisoimage (current version)'s -hfs options generates
old-HFS instead of new-HFS directory table, leading to truncation. Is
there a way, (such as libdmg)
to create HFS+ (OS 9 / OS X) images without using Toast?
-- 
Andrey Vul



Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Unfortunately, genisoimage (current version)'s -hfs options generates
 old-HFS instead of new-HFS directory table, leading to truncation. Is
 there a way, (such as libdmg)
 to create HFS+ (OS 9 / OS X) images without using Toast?

Genisoimage is extremely outdated - it is more than 3 years old with no 
updated/enhancements.

HFS support in mkisofs is deprecated, use Apple MAC UDF extensions instead.
The UDF extensions are implemented in mkisofs since more than a year.

Get a recent cdrtools from:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/

Note that hfs support in mkisofs will be dropped after the next stable release
which is expected to happen soon.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-19 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [19.09.08 12:02]:
 
 Get a recent cdrtools from:
 
 ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/
 

No need for that: 

# emerge cdrtools 

should be sufficient...

 
 Jörg
 

Jörg, we know you are on the crusade against cdrkit, but please remember 
that cdrtools are in portage. It should be enough to tip the users into 
using it.

Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] generating HFS+ isos

2008-09-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jörg, we know you are on the crusade against cdrkit, but please remember 
 that cdrtools are in portage. It should be enough to tip the users into 
 using it.

It seems that you missunderstand things. The people behind cdrkit are on a 
crusade against free software. 


The fact that many people by default use the Debian fork that is outdated, 
buggy, violates GPL and Copyright makes it obvios that people still need the
bit more background information I added to my mail.

Jörg

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