Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
Thomas Rösner wrote: Xamindar wrote: Richard Fish wrote: On 12/6/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. I have done this, but end up rebooting the vmware session every time I try, because I move around to different networks and the networking between linux and XP gets confused. So generally I'd recommend suspending the virtual machine with vmware's suspend function first, and then hibernate. You are right, it kills the vmware machine on hibernate. I just tried it. Oh well, at least it doesn't freeze. I'll try that vmware suspend function. vmware uses Alsa, no? I see no way you can keep sound apps running if you have to unload the alsa module before hibernating. Regards, T. hmm, maybe that is it. I'll try not unloading the alsa drivers and see if it still crashes. Do most sound drivers resume just fine? I think with mine the sound will still work on a resume and will only NOT work if I was playing music while I hibernated. So I just set it to unload them every time to be safe. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
On 12/7/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang this is stupid. You are right, vmware stays up if I hibernate without restarting alsasound. But for me I have no sound when I start up again. Oh well. You could disconnect vmware from the sound device while the virtual machine is still running, which should allow you to restart alsasound without it killing vmware. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. Also, I notice that my cpu governors and being able to change the clock speed of the cpu no longer function once I resume from suspend. One other thing is that any programs that use the sound device are killed when I hibernate (because hibernate is set to restart alsasound or else sound doesn't work any more)any way to stop that from happening? Thanks for any insight. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
On 12/6/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. Also, I notice that my cpu governors and being able to change the clock speed of the cpu no longer function once I resume from suspend. One other thing is that any programs that use the sound device are killed when I hibernate (because hibernate is set to restart alsasound or else sound doesn't work any more)any way to stop that from happening? I have had problems with Firefox 2 crashing every time I resume, it spouts some nonsense about gnome-vfs and dies. I have also on occasion not been able to enter my password into xscreensaver after a reboot, for that Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login then kill xscreensaver works without harming anything else. HTH. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die. --Bill Watterson -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
Michael Crute wrote: On 12/6/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. Also, I notice that my cpu governors and being able to change the clock speed of the cpu no longer function once I resume from suspend. One other thing is that any programs that use the sound device are killed when I hibernate (because hibernate is set to restart alsasound or else sound doesn't work any more)any way to stop that from happening? I have had problems with Firefox 2 crashing every time I resume, it spouts some nonsense about gnome-vfs and dies. I have also on occasion not been able to enter my password into xscreensaver after a reboot, for that Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login then kill xscreensaver works without harming anything else. HTH. -Mike Yeah, I have those same problems. I noticed though that xscreensaver runs extremely slow on resume and I can't enter a password. If I wait sometimes it recovers but most of the time just do what you do and kill it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
Richard Fish wrote: On 12/6/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. I have done this, but end up rebooting the vmware session every time I try, because I move around to different networks and the networking between linux and XP gets confused. So generally I'd recommend suspending the virtual machine with vmware's suspend function first, and then hibernate. You are right, it kills the vmware machine on hibernate. I just tried it. Oh well, at least it doesn't freeze. I'll try that vmware suspend function. Also, I notice that my cpu governors and being able to change the clock speed of the cpu no longer function once I resume from suspend. One other thing is that any programs that use the sound device are killed when I hibernate (because hibernate is set to restart alsasound or else sound doesn't work any more)any way to stop that from happening? Are you using the alsa drivers from the kernel, or the alsa-drivers package? And which sound driver? Alsa drivers from the kernel. snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec I guess the 2 points of advice I can offer here are: 1. If you are doing suspend-to-ram, do *not* unload any hardware drivers. A lot of hardware expects the OS to preserve state through STR, and that is really only possible if the drivers remain in memory. I don't, suspend to ram works great. 2. If you are doing suspend-to-disk, it should be possible to unload/reload virtually any modules, such as acpi. This is because the BIOS is executed and is responsible for setting the initial hardware states. -Richard With hibernate I am still working on the acpi stuff. I tried having it unload the cpu governor modules but it says they are in use when I try to hibernate. Cpu sticking on maximum after a resume from hibernation is really annoying. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 15:15 -0800, Xamindar wrote: Richard Fish wrote: On 12/6/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. I have done this, but end up rebooting the vmware session every time I try, because I move around to different networks and the networking between linux and XP gets confused. So generally I'd recommend suspending the virtual machine with vmware's suspend function first, and then hibernate. You are right, it kills the vmware machine on hibernate. I just tried it. Oh well, at least it doesn't freeze. I'll try that vmware suspend function. I am able to hibernate while vmware is running, and when I resume, vmware works just as before! Not much help for you, but at least you know it _can_ work. cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au If bankers can count, how come they have eight windows and only four tellers? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
