[gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread renna bud
is there a command to let me know the name and model of my motherboard, 
without having to open my pc-case (or worse to find the manual and box in which it came) ? thanks


Re: [gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread Jarry

renna bud wrote:


is there a command to let me know the name and model of my motherboard


Some motherboards display it on screen during start-up, on the very
beginning (like my asus mo-bo). Others might show it in bios-screen...

Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On 9/9/05, renna bud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 is there a command to let me know the name and model of my motherboard, 
  without having to open my pc-case (or worse to find the manual and box in
 which it came) ? thanks 

I don't know of one. You can use lspci to get a list of devices, but
not the model number. You'd have to read BIOS to figure this out I
think. Where that info is held in BIOS probably differs from
manufacturer to manufacturer.

I'm interested also. If this was possible then it seems that a Linux
install could do an even better job.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread Dave Nebinger
is there a command to let me know the name and model 
of my motherboard, without having to open my pc-case 
(or worse to find the manual and box in which it came) ? thanks 


emerge dmidecode

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Re: [gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread Holly Bostick
renna bud schreef:
 is there a command to let me know the name and model of my 
 motherboard, without having to open my pc-case (or worse to find the 
 manual and box in which it came) ? thanks

Hi, renna,

As far as I know, there is not such a command-- but there is a command
to find out the information that you're probably looking for (which is
not actually the mobo make and model, but the mobo *chipset*).

You need to know the chipset to work effectively with the kernel; and
the command (as root)

#lscpci

will most likely give you the information you need, as follows:

lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo
KT266/A/333]
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo
KT266/A/333 AGP]
:00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738
(rev 10)
:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge
:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc.
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
:00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB
1.1 Controller (rev 1b)
:00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB
1.1 Controller (rev 1b)
:00:11.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB
1.1 Controller (rev 1b)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R350 AH
[Radeon 9800]
:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350
[Radeon 9800] (Secondary)

As you can see, my chipset is clearly identified as an Apollo KT266A
at with a bus speed of 333 Mhz, VIA is plastered all over the
motherboard resources (host bridge, PCI bridge, USB controller are all
motherboard resources), so it's a VIA chipset, and you also see the chip
numbers for the northbridge and southbridge chips (or you would see the
southbridge if I was using the onboard sound), which is variously listed
as 8233 or VT82686, so you'd know what options were for your actual mobo
when you're configuring your kernel.

However, if you really *really* need to know the mobo manufacturer and
model number for some other reason, I would suggest:

1) looking at your invoice (some computer stores do list the parts they
used when building the PC, some don't)

2) looking in the manual you may have received (the 'specifications'
area of any manual is supposed to tell you what parts the unit is made of)

3) going to the PC manufacturer's website and seeing if they list the
parts used in your model (this could be in service, rather than on the
product page).

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On 9/9/05, Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  is there a command to let me know the name and model
  of my motherboard, without having to open my pc-case
  (or worse to find the manual and box in which it came) ? thanks
 
 emerge dmidecode

Very nice. Thanks!

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Dave Nebinger schreef:
 is there a command to let me know the name and model of my 
 motherboard, without having to open my pc-case (or worse to find 
 the manual and box in which it came) ? thanks
 
 
 emerge dmidecode
 

This looks quite the useful utility, but it doesn't seem to provide the
requested information (or at least, not all of it, and what it does
provide is difficult to recognize):

I know the make and model of my mobo; it's a Shuttle AK32A.

Let's see what dmidecode has to say:

dmidecode
# dmidecode 2.6
SMBIOS 2.2 present.
34 structures occupying 862 bytes.
Table at 0x000F0800.
Handle 0x
DMI type 0, 19 bytes.
BIOS Information
Vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version: 6.00 PG
Release Date: 09/27/2002
Address: 0xE
Runtime Size: 128 kB
ROM Size: 256 kB
Characteristics:
ISA is supported
PCI is supported
PNP is supported
APM is supported
BIOS is upgradeable
BIOS shadowing is allowed
ESCD support is available
Boot from CD is supported
Selectable boot is supported
BIOS ROM is socketed
EDD is supported
5.25/360 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
5.25/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
3.5/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
3.5/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
Serial services are supported (int 14h)
Printer services are supported (int 17h)
CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
ACPI is supported
USB legacy is supported
AGP is supported
LS-120 boot is supported
ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported
Handle 0x0001
DMI type 1, 25 bytes.
System Information
Manufacturer:
Product Name:
Version:
Serial Number:
UUID: 1297A232----
Wake-up Type: Power Switch


Handle 0x0002
DMI type 2, 8 bytes.
Base Board Information
Manufacturer:
Product Name: AK32
Version:
Serial Number:

Ok, here's the model name. But I know that because I already know the
model name. Would I know this was the model name if I didn't know what
the model of my mobo was already? I don't think so.
-
Handle 0x0003
DMI type 3, 13 bytes.
Chassis Information
Manufacturer:
Type: Desktop
Lock: Not Present
Version:
Serial Number:
Asset Tag:
Boot-up State: Unknown
Power Supply State: Unknown
Thermal State: Unknown
Security Status: Unknown
Handle 0x0004
DMI type 4, 32 bytes.
Processor Information
Socket Designation: Socket A
Type: Central Processor
Family: Duron
Manufacturer: AMD
ID: 81 06 00 00 FF F9 83 03
Signature: Family 6, Model 8, Stepping 1
Flags:
FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip)
VME (Virtual mode extension)
DE (Debugging extension)
PSE (Page size extension)
TSC (Time stamp counter)
MSR (Model specific registers)
PAE (Physical address extension)
MCE (Machine check exception)
CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported)
SEP (Fast system call)
MTRR (Memory type range registers)
PGE (Page global enable)
MCA (Machine check architecture)
CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported)
PAT (Page attribute table)
PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension)
MMX (MMX technology supported)
FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore)
SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions)
Version: AMD Athlon(tm) XP
Voltage: 1.6 V
External Clock: 133 

Re: [gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread Dave Nebinger
There certainly is a lot of useful information in this output, but it's 
not
necessarily the information needed (and certainly not all of the 
information

requested by the OP). So how would I, or the OP, use this utility
properly to answer the question, What is the make (manufacturer) and
model number of my motherboard? Or does it not answer that question 
fully?


The dmidecode utility dumps all of the DMI information available to the 
BIOS, so it is, in effect, the same thing as checking for the MOBO via the 
BIOS at system boot.


That said, it's important to note that your BIOS knows how to take the DMI 
information and display it in a format for the display at boot time.


So your bios automatically knows it's a shuttle, but the AK32 is used to 
show the exact MOBO revision.


That said, the bios must know to check another DMI value to determine 
whether it is the AK32A as opposed to a straight AK32 or some other 
revision.


On one of my servers, dmidecode produces:

# dmidecode 2.6
SMBIOS 2.3 present.
61 structures occupying 1735 bytes.
Table at 0x000EF130.
Handle 0x
DMI type 0, 19 bytes.
BIOS Information
 Vendor: IBM
 Version: PLKT44AUS
 Release Date: 02/13/2002
 Address: 0xF
 Runtime Size: 64 kB
 ROM Size: 256 kB
 Characteristics:
  ISA is supported
  PCI is supported
  PNP is supported
  APM is supported
  BIOS is upgradeable
  BIOS shadowing is allowed
  Boot from CD is supported
  Selectable boot is supported
  Japanese floppy for NEC 9800 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h)
  Japanese floppy for Toshiba 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h)
  5.25/360 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
  5.25/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
  3.5/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
  3.5/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
  Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
  8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
  Serial services are supported (int 14h)
  Printer services are supported (int 17h)
  CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
  ACPI is supported
  USB legacy is supported
  AGP is supported
  LS-120 boot is supported
  ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported
Handle 0x0001
DMI type 1, 25 bytes.
System Information
 Manufacturer: IBM
 Product Name: 686831U
 Version: Not Specified
 Serial Number: 23NN078
 UUID: 0036AB92-E6AD-2212-8B2C-CFF000D0B779
 Wake-up Type: Power Switch
Handle 0x0002
DMI type 2, 8 bytes.
Base Board Information
 Manufacturer: IBM
 Product Name: 686831U
 Version: Not Specified
 Serial Number: JNZNL0T7V8D

The difference in output is merely a reflection of what is stored in the 
DMI; in my case it happens to be a little more complete than yours.


Regardless, the tool provides the best opportunity to get the information 
w/o having to a) find the docs, b) open the box, or c) reboot to get into 
the BIOS.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On 9/9/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This looks quite the useful utility, but it doesn't seem to provide the
 requested information (or at least, not all of it, and what it does
 provide is difficult to recognize):
 
 I know the make and model of my mobo; it's a Shuttle AK32A.
 
 Let's see what dmidecode has to say:
 
SNIP
 
 The manufacturer name, Shuttle, never appears in this output (which is
 not all that surprising, since I don't think Shuttle puts any chips on
 the board that identify themselves as Shuttle-made (as opposed to VIA or
 whoever), but the fact that I'm not surprised is irrelevant to solving
 the problem :) ).
 
 There certainly is a lot of useful information in this output, but it's not
 necessarily the information needed (and certainly not all of the information
 requested by the OP). So how would I, or the OP, use this utility
 properly to answer the question, What is the make (manufacturer) and
 model number of my motherboard? Or does it not answer that question fully?
 
 Holly
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Hi Holly,
   This machine is a newish Asus A8N-E. Here's a trimmed version of what I see:

lightning ~ # dmidecode | more
# dmidecode 2.6
SMBIOS 2.3 present.
72 structures occupying 2042 bytes.
Table at 0x000F.
Handle 0x
DMI type 0, 20 bytes.
BIOS Information
Vendor: Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version: ASUS A8N-E ACPI BIOS Revision 1005
Release Date: 06/08/2005
Address: 0xE
Runtime Size: 128 kB


SNIP

Handle 0x0002
DMI type 2, 8 bytes.
Base Board Information
Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Product Name: A8N-E
Version: 2.XX
Serial Number: 123456789000

So to me it appears to be SMBIOS dependent? 

- Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] how can i find out my motherboard?

2005-09-09 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef:
 On 9/9/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 This looks quite the useful utility, but it doesn't seem to provide
 the requested information (or at least, not all of it, and what it
 does provide is difficult to recognize):
 
 I know the make and model of my mobo; it's a Shuttle AK32A.
 
 Let's see what dmidecode has to say:
 
 
 SNIP
 
 The manufacturer name, Shuttle, never appears in this output (which
 is not all that surprising, since I don't think Shuttle puts any
 chips on the board that identify themselves as Shuttle-made (as
 opposed to VIA or whoever), but the fact that I'm not surprised is
 irrelevant to solving the problem :) ).
 
 There certainly is a lot of useful information in this output, but
 it's not necessarily the information needed (and certainly not all
 of the information requested by the OP). So how would I, or the OP,
 use this utility properly to answer the question, What is the make
 (manufacturer) and model number of my motherboard? Or does it not
 answer that question fully?
 
 Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
 
 
 
 
 Hi Holly, This machine is a newish Asus A8N-E. Here's a trimmed
 version of what I see:
 
 lightning ~ # dmidecode | more # dmidecode 2.6 SMBIOS 2.3 present. 72
 structures occupying 2042 bytes. Table at 0x000F. Handle 0x 
 DMI type 0, 20 bytes. BIOS Information Vendor: Phoenix Technologies,
 LTD Version: ASUS A8N-E ACPI BIOS Revision 1005 Release Date:
 06/08/2005 Address: 0xE Runtime Size: 128 kB
 
 
 SNIP
 
 Handle 0x0002 DMI type 2, 8 bytes. Base Board Information 
 Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC. Product Name: A8N-E Version: 2.XX
  Serial Number: 123456789000
 
 So to me it appears to be SMBIOS dependent?
 
 - Mark
 

Yes, I think that's what I wanted to know; if my mobo is too old or too
dumb or too cheap to give the information, then you're not going to see
it based on this util.

Which seems to kinda suck, but not dmidecode's fault, obviously. But if
you've bought an off-the-rack box with a PCChips mobo (as so many
off-the-rack boxes have), I'm not sure that there's going to be another
way than 'the hard way' (since cheap mobos gotta get cheap somehow).

But hopefully it's just that my mobo is old (before such information
became really ubiquitous to be transmitted) and not that it's cheap and
corners have been cut (which would then be a concern to the OP).

Holly
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