Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
Alexander Skwar schreef: Holly Bostick schrieb: However, other than pointing this out by the simple expedient of confusing everyone further, Alexander's reply was less than helpful, since it neither pointed out why the answer given was presumably not correct, Uhm. Yes, I did not point that out. Why and how should I? OP asked, how a signature can be created. That's a clear question. I don't know how to explain, why --gen-key is the wrong answer. It's just so plain totally wrong, that I just don't know how to explain it. Well, if someone asks how to create a signature, and someone else answers how to provide a key pair, clearly someone is confused as to the fact that a signature is not a key pair. Saying so explicitly (i.e., this will generate a key pair, not a signature, and they are not the same thing), seems to be to be a simple way of saying why the answer is wrong. But that's just me and my conviction that people can't learn what you don't tell 'em (with the corollary assumption that people ask questions because they want to learn/know/understand something). or provided a correct answer if the answer given was in fact not correct. Oh, I did not? What about the -s? How's that not the sign command? Sorry, Alexander-- I missed the *second* mail in which you did this. In the mail quoted by Jason (the first mail), you were distinctly obscure :-) , and that's the one I was referring to. My mistake. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Holly Bostick wrote: Well, if someone asks how to create a signature, and someone else answers how to provide a key pair, clearly someone is confused as to the fact that a signature is not a key pair. No, actually I'm not confused as to the difference between a key pair and a signature (been using pgp/gnupg for years), but to get one you need the other, and users who have no idea where to begin with signing most likely don't have a key pair to start with. It all depends on how you interpret the question. @ Alexander As for out-of-order posting: when there is a short answer to a short question, I *really* don't see the point, or the point of making it a point considering it's a 4-line answer of a 3-line question. For long detailed answers to a long question, yes, I agree 100% (top-posting), but in this situation it was not the case. Greetings Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFDgxiJCt0ZF9kLPvYRAmslAKCZ7RmD9ONl7x/gtbV96WKy2LlwDACdF+Zg SAworHyIhI/rIy0dRQHo5T8= =WWNq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
-Original Message- From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:48 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature You're answer was to a different question. Whose answer was to a different question? Ralph Slooten schrieb: gpg --gen-key Wrong. can anybody tell me methode to create my own pgp signature? That's the question. Was the answer Ralph gave not correct? I don't understand what you're trying to say... Alexander Skwar Posting out-of-order makes it easy to follow context. ? -s -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Jason Ausmus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
Jason Ausmus schreef: -Original Message- From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:48 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature You're answer was to a different question. Whose answer was to a different question? Ralph Slooten schrieb: gpg --gen-key Wrong. can anybody tell me methode to create my own pgp signature? That's the question. Was the answer Ralph gave not correct? I don't understand what you're trying to say... Alexander Skwar Posting out-of-order makes it easy to follow context. Alexander may have been complaining about the top-posting, or maybe the OP was not completely clear in the question, or maybe Ralph misunderstood the difference between a /key pair/ and a /signature/: gpg --help Syntax: gpg [options] [files] sign, check, encrypt or decrypt default operation depends on the input data Commands: == -s, --sign [file] make a signature --clearsign [file]make a clear text signature -b, --detach-sign make a detached signature -e, --encrypt encrypt data -c, --symmetric encryption only with symmetric cipher -d, --decrypt decrypt data (default) --verify verify a signature --list-keys list keys --list-sigs list keys and signatures --check-sigs list and check key signatures --fingerprint list keys and fingerprints -K, --list-secret-keyslist secret keys == --gen-key generate a new key pair --delete-keys remove keys from the public keyring --delete-secret-keys remove keys from the secret keyring --sign-keysign a key So if the question really does relate to creating a signature, Ralph was wrong. If the question was wrong, and a key pair needs to be generated in order to sign something, then Ralph was right. However, other than pointing this out by the simple expedient of confusing everyone further, Alexander's reply was less than helpful, since it neither pointed out why the answer given was presumably not correct, or provided a correct answer if the answer given was in fact not correct. Awaiting more data in order to answer /your/ question, Jason (can not compute). but everybody could just read the man page and work it out for themselves, of course :) . Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
Holly Bostick wrote: but everybody could just read the man page and work it out for themselves, of course :) . Alternatively, one could read Gentoo's GnuPG documentation[1] or the GnuPG Handbook[2]. :-) [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml [2] http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/guides.html Cheers. --Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
Jason Ausmus schrieb: -Original Message- From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:48 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature You're answer was to a different question. Whose answer was to a different question? The answer of the person, to whom I replied: Ralph Slooten. can anybody tell me methode to create my own pgp signature? That's the question. Was the answer Ralph gave not correct? No, it wasn't. It was the answer to a different question. He answered the question: How do I get a key pair?. But that wasn't asked for. I don't understand what you're trying to say... Ralphs answer was wrong and his posting style (full quote with top post) is suboptimal. I mixed my post up as well, to bring that point across. Alexander Skwar Posting out-of-order makes it easy to follow context. ? Ralphs post was not in the correct order. The correct order is the one that you and I am employing: Quote Answer He mixed that up. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
Holly Bostick schrieb: Jason Ausmus schreef: -Original Message- From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:48 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature You're answer was to a different question. Whose answer was to a different question? Ralph Slooten schrieb: gpg --gen-key Wrong. can anybody tell me methode to create my own pgp signature? That's the question. Was the answer Ralph gave not correct? I don't understand what you're trying to say... Alexander Skwar Posting out-of-order makes it easy to follow context. Alexander may have been complaining about the top-posting, Yep. or maybe the OP was not completely clear in the question, Hm, possible as well, yes. or maybe Ralph misunderstood the difference between a /key pair/ and a /signature/: That's what I assumed. Commands: == -s, --sign [file] make a signature Yep. As I said - see the last line of my mail before the mailinglist signature :) I don't think that it is helpful to read man pages or help output to people. So if the question really does relate to creating a signature, Ralph was wrong. If the question was wrong, and a key pair needs to be generated in order to sign something, then Ralph was right. Yes. However, other than pointing this out by the simple expedient of confusing everyone further, Alexander's reply was less than helpful, since it neither pointed out why the answer given was presumably not correct, Uhm. Yes, I did not point that out. Why and how should I? OP asked, how a signature can be created. That's a clear question. I don't know how to explain, why --gen-key is the wrong answer. It's just so plain totally wrong, that I just don't know how to explain it. or provided a correct answer if the answer given was in fact not correct. Oh, I did not? What about the -s? How's that not the sign command? but everybody could just read the man page and work it out for themselves, of course :) . Or the help output. I wrote gpg --help | grep 'make a' which will, among other things, return -s. But that's not correct? Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gpg --gen-key But you won't be able to use it with the gmail interface. I personally use it with thunderbird (enigmail extension). El Nino wrote: dear friends, can anybody tell me methode to create my own pgp signature? -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDgFu9Ct0ZF9kLPvYRApeXAJ93iZbR+y+yrdPnAGYrPQDDnzkU5ACeIH2W V//gUYLUkynl8Dpq6B7dDbQ= =1qs4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
You're answer was to a different question. Ralph Slooten schrieb: gpg --gen-key Wrong. can anybody tell me methode to create my own pgp signature? That's the question. Alexander Skwar Posting out-of-order makes it easy to follow context. -s -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a pgp signature
El Nino schrieb: dear friends, can anybody tell me methode to create my own pgp signature? The man page of gnupg will tell: man gpg It's also in the help output: LC_ALL=C gpg --help | grep 'make a' Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
