Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 8:44 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 08:37:43 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is > > > using the installer to install Gentoo. > > > > Nowhere in his post does he say that. It explicitly refers to the > > minimal CD. > > > > That said, the email you replied to (which wasn't from the poster) had > > language more suggestive of some kind of installer. > > My bad, I meant Gentoo installation disc, not installer disc. The > auto-completion in my wetware is not what it used to be :( > No worries - it was more a case of whisper-down-the-lane, with each reply slightly changing the context. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, 02 Oct 2020 08:51:52 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > I've never used a gentoo-live-cd and the reason I use the gentoo-minimal > -cd is it's possible to bring speakup up on boot and for those few of us > who can't see the screen and haven't got sighted help nearby, that makes > all manner of independent computer operations possible. > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 08:09:32 > > From: Rich Freeman > > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems > > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dale wrote: > > > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > >> I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be > > >> able to create your own mount points. > > > > > > Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while > > > back. That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with > > > when it is active or isn't. > > > > > > > The minimal CD, or creating mountpoints? The former has always > > existed, and the latter has existed since the 70s. > > > > And please add non-html quotes - I really don't want to have to edit > > replies... > > > > As far as the minimal CD goes, you an just create mountpoints, but > > really I'm not sure why anybody uses it in the first place. I just > > use a liveCD from ubuntu or whatever - there are a bazillion liveCDs > > (including Gentoo-based ones), and just about all of them are more > > useful than the Gentoo minimal iso. I'm not sure why we even produce > > one, except maybe for the same reasons everybody sets the default > > editor to nano. :) > > > > I have used the minimal cd, but I would think any gentoo cd would have the speakup module in it, you can always check by downloading the iso, getting to the /lib/modules directory -- which might involve mounting a squashfs file system -- and checking if the speakup module is there. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
I've never used a gentoo-live-cd and the reason I use the gentoo-minimal -cd is it's possible to bring speakup up on boot and for those few of us who can't see the screen and haven't got sighted help nearby, that makes all manner of independent computer operations possible. On Fri, 2 Oct 2020, Rich Freeman wrote: > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 08:09:32 > From: Rich Freeman > Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dale wrote: > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > >> I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be > >> able to create your own mount points. > > > > Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while back. > > That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with when it > > is active or isn't. > > > > The minimal CD, or creating mountpoints? The former has always > existed, and the latter has existed since the 70s. > > And please add non-html quotes - I really don't want to have to edit > replies... > > As far as the minimal CD goes, you an just create mountpoints, but > really I'm not sure why anybody uses it in the first place. I just > use a liveCD from ubuntu or whatever - there are a bazillion liveCDs > (including Gentoo-based ones), and just about all of them are more > useful than the Gentoo minimal iso. I'm not sure why we even produce > one, except maybe for the same reasons everybody sets the default > editor to nano. :) > > --
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 08:37:43 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is > > using the installer to install Gentoo. > > Nowhere in his post does he say that. It explicitly refers to the > minimal CD. > > That said, the email you replied to (which wasn't from the poster) had > language more suggestive of some kind of installer. My bad, I meant Gentoo installation disc, not installer disc. The auto-completion in my wetware is not what it used to be :( -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 004: Erroneous error - Nothing is wrong pgp7AhZiJbk8M.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 8:30 AM Dale wrote: > > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is using > the installer to install Gentoo. Nowhere in his post does he say that. It explicitly refers to the minimal CD. That said, the email you replied to (which wasn't from the poster) had language more suggestive of some kind of installer. In any case, I have no idea if anybody has a working installer at this moment. > I manually requested > plain text for this one but to be honest, I'm not holding my breath on > it listening. Well, it worked. Much appreciated. Sorry it isn't behaving for you... :) -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be >>> able to create your own mount points. >> Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while back. >> That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with when it is >> active or isn't. >> > The minimal CD, or creating mountpoints? The former has always > existed, and the latter has existed since the 70s. > > And please add non-html quotes - I really don't want to have to edit > replies... > > As far as the minimal CD goes, you an just create mountpoints, but > really I'm not sure why anybody uses it in the first place. I just > use a liveCD from ubuntu or whatever - there are a bazillion liveCDs > (including Gentoo-based ones), and just about all of them are more > useful than the Gentoo minimal iso. I'm not sure why we even produce > one, except maybe for the same reasons everybody sets the default > editor to nano. :) > I was talking about the Gentoo installer. I'm thinking the OP is using the installer to install Gentoo. I'm not sure of it but it's possible. I noticed in one post that the OP seems to be using a text to speech tool which may be the reason they are using a installer. It may be easier that way. Seamonkey does its own thing with email replies. It seems to be based on what others do and ignores what I've told it. I manually requested plain text for this one but to be honest, I'm not holding my breath on it listening. All emails going to gentoo.org or kde.org are supposed to be plain text only. It's been set that way for many years now and it worked until a good while back. I've done my part and told it. I can't fix it. Maybe it's a feature. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 4:53 AM Dale wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be >> able to create your own mount points. > > Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while back. > That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with when it is > active or isn't. > The minimal CD, or creating mountpoints? The former has always existed, and the latter has existed since the 70s. And please add non-html quotes - I really don't want to have to edit replies... As far as the minimal CD goes, you an just create mountpoints, but really I'm not sure why anybody uses it in the first place. I just use a liveCD from ubuntu or whatever - there are a bazillion liveCDs (including Gentoo-based ones), and just about all of them are more useful than the Gentoo minimal iso. I'm not sure why we even produce one, except maybe for the same reasons everybody sets the default editor to nano. :) -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 02:01:14 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> No mount point on the minimal isos exists under /mnt where an installer >> can temporarily mount another drive to copy output of errors or created >> scripts that help them get around gentoo's installer limitations. > I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be > able to create your own mount points. > > Is it still supported? I thought it was abandoned again a good while back. That thing has come and gone so many times, I can't keep up with when it is active or isn't. Still think it is easier and you learn more doing it manually. Each his/her own I guess. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] installation problems
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 02:01:14 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > No mount point on the minimal isos exists under /mnt where an installer > can temporarily mount another drive to copy output of errors or created > scripts that help them get around gentoo's installer limitations. I haven't used the Gentoo installer discs for years, but you should be able to create your own mount points. -- Neil Bothwick If you give a man a fish, he's fed for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he'll buy a silly hat. If you talk about fish to a starving man, you're a consultant. pgpE4fLwWmuH9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] installation problems
No mount point on the minimal isos exists under /mnt where an installer can temporarily mount another drive to copy output of errors or created scripts that help them get around gentoo's installer limitations. Earlier tonight I had been fighting with links since links insisted on downloading an image rather than the stage3 file my cursor was located on according to speakup. I ended up putting the base url in a bash script along with an empty download variable then using another computer to get the name of the stage3 file and copying that into the download variable. Then I ran the script which used wget for the download. My latest mistake was to try to save that bash script since as soon as I left /mnt/gentoo everything on /mnt/gentoo went away and all I was left with was a lost+found subdirectory which was empty. I at least still have the four partitions remaining on the gentoo disk. It's also lucky I'm using drive sleds. The decision to remove lynx from the isos I think was not a good decision for screen reader users. Now I'm going to go back and repeat all of this stage3 download work and also forget to save that bash script. --
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
Andrey Vul schrieb: On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 07:29, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iain's diagnosis seems about right. I would start with a nice 2h memtest86+ test followed with a 1h cpuburn test. I believe you mean 2d memtest86+ unless computer has DDR9-9 RAM where 100 (full) cycles could be completed in under 2 hours. Also, do cpuburn for a day or more - bad cooling could take hours to mnifest themselves. You are right. To be absolutely sure, you should take the time for a very long test. I've heard of errors which were first seem after a week of testing. But here we are talking about a problem which was visible after just one kernel compilation. I would bet that you could see it after just one test cycle of memtest and half an hour of CPUburn. One the other hand, I once had a memory error (due to too short latencies) which couldn't be found my memtest within a day but crashed Elder Scrolls Oblivion after just 5min. You can never be sure with those things. Who knows? Maybe the power supply is too weak and you need to stress RAM, CPU and hard disk at the same time (as a compilation would do).
[gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation Using the handbook documentation for AMD64 I burned a basic installation CD, booted it up, and followed the instructions for installation on the spare drive. Everything went fine; I partitioned the disk with a 32MB ext2 sector for /boot, a 512MB swap sector, 10GB for root and the rest for /home. I had no trouble with the network, successfully downloaded everything that needed to be downloaded and unpacked it, successfully chrooted to the new system, and reached the compiling the kernel section without a glitch. And the then the trouble began. I emerged gentoo-sources, and it ran fine for about five minutes, and then (choosing the moment when I decided all was well to go and make a pot of tea, the system rebooted itself. I booted up the disk again and went through the chrooting process. When I went to emerge gentoo-sources again, emerge looked for the dependencies and then the whole system froze solid with one of those this is NOT our fault kernel panic messages. Not to worry. I can be very patient on occasions. I cold booted the box and started all over again, deleting the new partitions and going through the instructions from the beginning incase I'd missed anything. Again I got to emerging gentoo-sources. Again it ran for about five minutes before the system rebooted itself. Again I went through the chrooting process and went to emerge gentoo-sources. Again the system froze. I rebooted and rechrooted and tried it again. Same result. I'm reluctant to believe that this is down to an arbitrary hardware fault, since everything else works fine. It does seem to have something to do with emerging gentoo-sources. Is anybody able to rescue this maiden in distress and throw some light on my problem? Rosie signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 11:36 +, R C Mitchell wrote: [SNIP] I emerged gentoo-sources, and it ran fine for about five minutes, and then (choosing the moment when I decided all was well to go and make a pot of tea, the system rebooted itself. I booted up the disk again and went through the chrooting process. When I went to emerge gentoo-sources again, emerge looked for the dependencies and then the whole system froze solid with one of those this is NOT our fault kernel panic messages. Not to worry. I can be very patient on occasions. I cold booted the box and started all over again, deleting the new partitions and going through the instructions from the beginning incase I'd missed anything. Again I got to emerging gentoo-sources. Again it ran for about five minutes before the system rebooted itself. Again I went through the chrooting process and went to emerge gentoo-sources. Again the system froze. I rebooted and rechrooted and tried it again. Same result. I'm reluctant to believe that this is down to an arbitrary hardware fault, since everything else works fine. It does seem to have something to do with emerging gentoo-sources. Well, emerging gentoo-sources has to be probably the *easiest* package to emerge. All it pretty does is download the tarball, unpacks it and applies some packages. So I don't think it's a problem with gentoo-sources. What you describe does indeed sound like a hardware issue. I remember a long long time ago a similar thing happened to me on a laptop that would not keep cool. When you are compiling a lot of stuff as you would with Gentoo, things can get pretty warm inside, so adequate air flow is important. You might wanna shut your computer down for a couple of hours and try again when it's cool. It could also be a kernel issue but I doubt it. Usually it's something like overheating or faulty RAM.
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:29, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iain Buchanan schrieb: R C Mitchell wrote: I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation ah, who says Ubuntu isn't good for anything? Good to see you're trying a real distribution :) /flame Typically now you'd prove me wrong and say how you've been using dieHardLinux for years... anyhoo welcome! [snip excellent problem report] I'm reluctant to believe that this is down to an arbitrary hardware fault, since everything else works fine. It does seem to have something to do with emerging gentoo-sources. hm, this screams hardware fault all over - I haven't seen one issue like this come to anything else. Usually it's the RAM. Can you humour me and try a stick from another machine, or at least reseat it? Iain's diagnosis seems about right. I would start with a nice 2h memtest86+ test followed with a 1h cpuburn test. I agree. One of my systems NEEDS acpid configured and running else the processor would just thermal shutdown on me (freezing before it, sometimes). I would just try and emerge cpufreq stuff and down the frequency (that, of course, if memtest exclude your ram). I say that because a well configured system will throttle the CPU before overheat, and cpuburn should run on the newly installed Gentoo to be sure. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM, R C Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation Using the handbook documentation for AMD64 I burned a basic installation CD, booted it up, and followed the instructions for installation on the spare drive. Everything went fine; I partitioned the disk with a 32MB ext2 sector for /boot, a 512MB swap sector, 10GB for root and the rest for /home. I had no trouble with the network, successfully downloaded everything that needed to be downloaded and unpacked it, successfully chrooted to the new system, and reached the compiling the kernel section without a glitch. And the then the trouble began. I emerged gentoo-sources, and it ran fine for about five minutes, and then (choosing the moment when I decided all was well to go and make a pot of tea, the system rebooted itself. I booted up the disk again and went through the chrooting process. When I went to emerge gentoo-sources again, emerge looked for the dependencies and then the whole system froze solid with one of those this is NOT our fault kernel panic messages. Not to worry. I can be very patient on occasions. I cold booted the box and started all over again, deleting the new partitions and going through the instructions from the beginning incase I'd missed anything. Again I got to emerging gentoo-sources. Again it ran for about five minutes before the system rebooted itself. Again I went through the chrooting process and went to emerge gentoo-sources. Again the system froze. I rebooted and rechrooted and tried it again. Same result. I'm reluctant to believe that this is down to an arbitrary hardware fault, since everything else works fine. It does seem to have something to do with emerging gentoo-sources. Is anybody able to rescue this maiden in distress and throw some light on my problem? Rosie An easy way to find out if this is a gentoo related problem is to avoid using the livecd. You can easily chroot into the gentoo drive from your ubuntu installation and try to emerge gentoo-sources from there. If you still get a failure you can be almost sure this is an hardware problem. If you don't get any failure, than this does NOT mean gentoo is not for your hardware, but only that the livecd configured kernel may have issues with your hardware. Of course be careful compiling your own :P -- Momesso (TopperH) Andrea http://topperh.blogspot.com Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 224179391
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
R C Mitchell wrote: I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation ah, who says Ubuntu isn't good for anything? Good to see you're trying a real distribution :) /flame Typically now you'd prove me wrong and say how you've been using dieHardLinux for years... anyhoo welcome! [snip excellent problem report] I'm reluctant to believe that this is down to an arbitrary hardware fault, since everything else works fine. It does seem to have something to do with emerging gentoo-sources. hm, this screams hardware fault all over - I haven't seen one issue like this come to anything else. Usually it's the RAM. Can you humour me and try a stick from another machine, or at least reseat it? No offence, but I doubt an Ubuntu install would tax your resources as much as compiling your system as you have just done. Strange that you came all the way to gentoo-sources before it manifested, but perhaps it's the only one so far to keep your CPU at 100% for long enough. Other things you could try are frequency scaling (maybe it's overheating, where a temp sensor isn't picking it up); and reseating your h/w. Is anybody able to rescue this maiden in distress and throw some light on my problem? but girls don't exist on tha interwebz! HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au We're overpaying him, but he's worth it. -Samuel Goldwyn
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
Iain Buchanan schrieb: R C Mitchell wrote: I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation ah, who says Ubuntu isn't good for anything? Good to see you're trying a real distribution :) /flame Typically now you'd prove me wrong and say how you've been using dieHardLinux for years... anyhoo welcome! [snip excellent problem report] I'm reluctant to believe that this is down to an arbitrary hardware fault, since everything else works fine. It does seem to have something to do with emerging gentoo-sources. hm, this screams hardware fault all over - I haven't seen one issue like this come to anything else. Usually it's the RAM. Can you humour me and try a stick from another machine, or at least reseat it? Iain's diagnosis seems about right. I would start with a nice 2h memtest86+ test followed with a 1h cpuburn test. You could also try to download vanilla kernel sources and try to compile them on Ubuntu. If you experience the same problem, you know it's not Gentoo's fault ;) By the way: Can you post some parameters of your system (CPU, age, ...) and tell us, whether you use 64bit or 32bit versions of Ubuntu and Gentoo?
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
On Friday 28 November 2008 11:56:52 Iain Buchanan wrote: ah, who says Ubuntu isn't good for anything? Good to see you're trying a real distribution :) /flame Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore... Typically now you'd prove me wrong and say how you've been using dieHardLinux for years... anyhoo welcome! First tasted Slackware about 12 years ago. Long before that I used to make VAXes sing and dance. We'll draw a veil over the MVS/TSO/CICS years, except to say that I know bloated systems when I see them. [snip excellent problem report] blush No offence, but I doubt an Ubuntu install would tax your resources as much as compiling your system as you have just done. No, one can have it up and running in the time it takes to compile, say, Firefox from scratch. Sometimes I like a quiet life. Other times I like to live on the edge :) but girls don't exist on tha interwebz! So it seems - look at all those pizza boxes and old beer cans all over the floor. Rosie -- CURRENTLY READING: The Rainbow, by DH Lawrence Pie'n'Mushies: Barrow Day-by-Day http://pieandmushies.wordpress.com I am not young enough to know everything signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
On Friday 28 November 2008 12:55:06 Andrea Momesso wrote: An easy way to find out if this is a gentoo related problem is to avoid using the livecd. You can easily chroot into the gentoo drive from your ubuntu installation and try to emerge gentoo-sources from there. Ok, I've done this. gentoo-sources emerged without any problems. I've set it compiling a genkernel (if I am convinced by what I get when it's all working, I'll try compiling a custom kernel. It's currently running without mishap. If you still get a failure you can be almost sure this is an hardware problem. I haven't had a problem yet so I can't say anything. I'm going out for a couple of hours later so I'll run a memtest while I'm gone. Rosie -- CURRENTLY READING: The Rainbow, by DH Lawrence Pie'n'Mushies: Barrow Day-by-Day http://pieandmushies.wordpress.com I am not young enough to know everything signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
On Friday 28 November 2008 12:29:23 Florian Philipp wrote: By the way: Can you post some parameters of your system (CPU, age, ...) and tell us, whether you use 64bit or 32bit versions of Ubuntu and Gentoo? I had the box built for me a year ago. Processor is ADM Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (two of them) I'm running 64-bit Ubuntu on the main disk and attempting to install ADM64 2008.0 Gentoo PCI listing: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:00.5 PIC: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE I/O APIC Interrupt Controller 00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800/K8T890 South] 00:02.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller 00:03.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8T890 PCI to PCI Bridge Controller 00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A SATA 2-Port Controller (rev 80) 00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 07) 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev a0) 00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to ISA Bridge 00:11.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 Ultra VLINK Controller 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 7c) 00:13.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A Host Bridge 00:13.1 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237A PCI to PCI Bridge 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1) 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller (rev 10) Anything else? Rosie -- CURRENTLY READING: The Rainbow, by DH Lawrence Pie'n'Mushies: Barrow Day-by-Day http://pieandmushies.wordpress.com I am not young enough to know everything signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
On 28 Nov 2008, at 11:56, Iain Buchanan wrote: R C Mitchell wrote: I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation ... I'm in complete denial over this blatant non-specific hardware fault ... IFIFY. hm, this screams hardware fault all over - I haven't seen one issue like this come to anything else. +1. Usually it's the RAM. Can you humour me and try a stick from another machine, or at least reseat it? I'm gonna disagree. RAM is like the classic answer, but my recent experiences suggest it can be frikkin' anything. I mean, try the RAM first, because it's easy, but due to the number of components in the average PC I reckon that the statistics say it's something else (especially in the case of typical home-build PCs built from parts salvaged, donated, scrounged and hung-onto-for-sentimental-reasons over the course of several years). The only way to be sure is to unplug the USB headers and currently-unused floppy optical drives, then swap out the remaining components one at a time. This is why I HATE messing around with hardware. If everything else works fine under LameLunix, maybe it's the hard- disk? I've certainly seen hard-drives cause BSODs, even after zeroing them reformatting. but girls don't exist on tha interwebz! Nevertheless I will indulge in the suspension of my disbelief be extra extra helpful. [1] Stroller. [1] Perhaps you haven't seen me when I'm being unhelpful?.
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
Stroller wrote: On 28 Nov 2008, at 11:56, Iain Buchanan wrote: R C Mitchell wrote: I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation ... I'm in complete denial over this blatant non-specific hardware fault ... IFIFY. IFIFY? $ wtf IFIFY IFIFY: nothing appropriate hm, this screams hardware fault all over - I haven't seen one issue like this come to anything else. +1. nice to see people agree with me. Usually it's the RAM. Can you humour me and try a stick from another machine, or at least reseat it? I'm gonna disagree. oh well, it was nice while it lasted. RAM is like the classic answer, but my recent experiences suggest it can be frikkin' anything. I mean, try the RAM first, because it's easy, but due to the number of components in the average PC I reckon that the statistics say it's something else (especially in the case of typical home-build PCs built from parts salvaged, donated, scrounged and hung-onto-for-sentimental-reasons over the course of several years). The only way to be sure is to unplug the USB headers and currently-unused floppy optical drives, then swap out the remaining components one at a time. This is why I HATE messing around with hardware. you're right, of course. but girls don't exist on tha interwebz! Nevertheless I will indulge in the suspension of my disbelief be extra extra helpful. [1] Stroller. [1] Perhaps you haven't seen me when I'm being unhelpful?. yes, we have :p -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au BOFH Excuse #266: All of the packets are empty.
