Re: [gentoo-user] suppressing the 'would you like to add --pretend' prompt when using emerge --ask

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday 17 Apr 2016 12:57:30 »Q« wrote:

> I never want to add --pretend to the options;  if I've used --ask,
> I also meant to use sudo.  I've looked through the documentation and
> couldn't find a way to stop emerge from prompting me about --pretend,
> so now I'm asking you if I've overlooked a way.

$ alias emerj
alias emerj='sudo emerge --jobs=25 --load-average=60 --keep-going'

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Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] suppressing the 'would you like to add --pretend' prompt when using emerge --ask

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:59:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>
 Also, I've always used '-v' rather than '-a', as it's simpler.  
>>> It's not simpler, it's different.  
>> Oh dear (red face) : I meant to write '-p' ...
> I'm sure you can find an exotic keymap to blame it on, one where v and p
> are adjacent ;-)
>
> I still think -a is simpler, and faster, as using -p when you intend to do
> the emerge for real afterwards means running two commands. The whole
> point of adding -a was to save us having to do that any more.
>
>

I sometimes call it independent finger thinking.  In other words, my
brain was thinking one thing but my finger was thinking something else. 
I hate when that happens tho, which is why I try to proof my emails at
least twice and sometimes even more.  :/

What would be nice, if we could do the same before we open our mouths in
normal conversation.  My foot tastes bad.  lol 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] suppressing the 'would you like to add --pretend' prompt when using emerge --ask

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 18:59:57 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

> >> Also, I've always used '-v' rather than '-a', as it's simpler.  
> > It's not simpler, it's different.  
> 
> Oh dear (red face) : I meant to write '-p' ...

I'm sure you can find an exotic keymap to blame it on, one where v and p
are adjacent ;-)

I still think -a is simpler, and faster, as using -p when you intend to do
the emerge for real afterwards means running two commands. The whole
point of adding -a was to save us having to do that any more.


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The best antiques are old friends.


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Re: [gentoo-user] suppressing the 'would you like to add --pretend' prompt when using emerge --ask

[Philip Webb]

160417 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:40:04 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> Also, I've always used '-v' rather than '-a', as it's simpler.
> It's not simpler, it's different.

Oh dear (red face) : I meant to write '-p' ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] suppressing the 'would you like to add --pretend' prompt when using emerge --ask

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 15:40:04 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

> Also, I've always used '-v' rather than '-a', as it's simpler.

It's not simpler, it's different. -v clutters up the output with extra
information you may or may not need. -a saves running the dependency
calculations twice which is the case if you use -p and them emerge
without.

You can use -a with -v just as you can use -p without -v.


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Re: [gentoo-user] suppressing the 'would you like to add --pretend' prompt when using emerge --ask

[Philip Webb]

160417 »Q« wrote:
> I too often forget to use 'sudo' along with 'emerge --ask',
> which gets me a prompt to add '--pretend' to the options.
> I never want to add '--pretend' to the options :
> if I've used '--ask', I also meant to use 'sudo'.

If your machine isn't in a public place, why don't you use a root terminal ?
That's what I've always done & have never used 'sudo', which isn't installed.
Also, I've always used '-v' rather than '-a', as it's simpler.
After 'emerge -pv ', I then carry on with 'emerge -1 '
or simply 'emerge ', if it's a World or System pkg.

Really, there are simple ways of doing things with Gentoo,
which avoid a lot of the complications + hassles others complain about.

HTH (smile).

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Re: [gentoo-user] suppressing the 'would you like to add --pretend' prompt when using emerge --ask

[Alexander Kapshuk]

On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 8:57 PM, »Q«  wrote:
> I too often forget to use sudo along with emerge --ask, which gets me
> a prompt to add --pretend to the options, e.g.
>
> $ emerge -a firefox
> This action requires superuser access...
> Would you like to add --pretend to options? [Yes/No] n
> $ doh
> Password:
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies /... done!
>
> ( 'doh' is an alias for 'sudo $(history -p \!\!)'  )
>
> I never want to add --pretend to the options;  if I've used --ask,
> I also meant to use sudo.  I've looked through the documentation and
> couldn't find a way to stop emerge from prompting me about --pretend,
> so now I'm asking you if I've overlooked a way.
>
>

Yes, the 'Would you like to add --pretend to options?' query does seem
to be hard-coded. See below.
portage-2.2.26/pym/_emerge/actions.py:2976,3004
# check if root user is the current user for the actions where emerge needs this
...
uq = UserQuery(emerge_config.opts)
if uq.query("Would you like to add --pretend to options?",
"--ask-enter-invalid" in emerge_config.opts) == "No":
...

I wonder if running the command line in the debug mode, 'emerge -ad
firefox', would reveal anything of interest.

Re: [gentoo-user] suppressing the 'would you like to add --pretend' prompt when using emerge --ask

[Ralf]

... What about aliasing emerge to sudo emerge? :-)

Cheers
  Ralf

On 04/17/2016 07:57 PM, »Q« wrote:
> I too often forget to use sudo along with emerge --ask, which gets me
> a prompt to add --pretend to the options, e.g.
>
> $ emerge -a firefox
> This action requires superuser access...
> Would you like to add --pretend to options? [Yes/No] n
> $ doh
> Password: 
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies /... done!
>
> ( 'doh' is an alias for 'sudo $(history -p \!\!)'  )
>
> I never want to add --pretend to the options;  if I've used --ask,
> I also meant to use sudo.  I've looked through the documentation and
> couldn't find a way to stop emerge from prompting me about --pretend,
> so now I'm asking you if I've overlooked a way.
>
>

[gentoo-user] suppressing the 'would you like to add --pretend' prompt when using emerge --ask

[»Q«]

I too often forget to use sudo along with emerge --ask, which gets me
a prompt to add --pretend to the options, e.g.

$ emerge -a firefox
This action requires superuser access...
Would you like to add --pretend to options? [Yes/No] n
$ doh
Password: 

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies /... done!

( 'doh' is an alias for 'sudo $(history -p \!\!)'  )

I never want to add --pretend to the options;  if I've used --ask,
I also meant to use sudo.  I've looked through the documentation and
couldn't find a way to stop emerge from prompting me about --pretend,
so now I'm asking you if I've overlooked a way.