Re: SOLVED [gentoo-user] Win4Lin NumLock issue

2006-01-27 Thread Tom Smith
The problem occurs when running Win4Lin *within* a VNC session. The same
goes for QEMU.

I don't fully understand the difference between loading X at the console
versus loading it at a virtual console, but I think that some keyboard
mappings (among other things) are treated differently in the virtual
console. When I first started playing around with WTS, over a year ago,
I was using XDMCP on the server and Cygwin/X on the client--I had the
exact same problem... The number keypad didn't work.

So it's probably just that X doesn't load everything at the virtual
console that is does at the real console.

Ron Bickers wrote:

>On Thu January 26 2006 17:41, Tom Smith wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Sheesh, I finally found a solution to this very annoying problem (may
>>also help the gentleman with the UK keyboard problem (Peter Ruskin?)...
>>I actually discovered this while playing around with QEMU, it had the
>>EXACT same problem as WTS.
>>
>>
>
>I just stopped using Win4Lin and started using QEMU (tired of kernel patching 
>and being so far behind gentoo-sources).  The numlock key works fine in both 
>for me (sort of).  The only thing wrong is that if it says it's on in the 
>Windows session, it's really off, and vice versa.  The keypad numbers *do* 
>work as expected, though.  Is there more to this problem that I'm missing?
>
>  
>
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Re: SOLVED [gentoo-user] Win4Lin NumLock issue

2006-01-27 Thread Ron Bickers
On Thu January 26 2006 17:41, Tom Smith wrote:

> Sheesh, I finally found a solution to this very annoying problem (may
> also help the gentleman with the UK keyboard problem (Peter Ruskin?)...
> I actually discovered this while playing around with QEMU, it had the
> EXACT same problem as WTS.

I just stopped using Win4Lin and started using QEMU (tired of kernel patching 
and being so far behind gentoo-sources).  The numlock key works fine in both 
for me (sort of).  The only thing wrong is that if it says it's on in the 
Windows session, it's really off, and vice versa.  The keypad numbers *do* 
work as expected, though.  Is there more to this problem that I'm missing?

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Re: SOLVED [gentoo-user] Win4Lin NumLock issue

2006-01-26 Thread Tom Smith
Sheesh, I finally found a solution to this very annoying problem (may
also help the gentleman with the UK keyboard problem (Peter Ruskin?)...
I actually discovered this while playing around with QEMU, it had the
EXACT same problem as WTS.

The problem appears to be an X keyboard mapping issue. In my situation,
the users only use the number keypad for entering numbers. So I created
the following

~/.Xmodmap:
keycode 79=7
keycode 80=8
keycode 81=9
keycode 83=4
keycode 84=5
keycode 85=6
keycode 87=1
keycode 88=2
keycode 89=3
keycode 90=0
keycode 91=period
keycode 86 = plus
keycode 77 =

This essentially hard codes the number keypad and (theoretically)
disables the Num Lock button ("keycode 77")--theoretically because the
number keypad now works perfectly but only if the Num Lock LED is ON on
the client side (Windows, in my case).

I still don't fully understand why or how this works because the number
keypad has always worked within X during a VNC session, problems arose
only during a Win4Lin or QEMU session and only within those sessions.

Anyway, thought this might help others who may be having the same or
similar problems.

~ Tom

John Jolet wrote:

> that no longer exists.
> at least that's what I was told when I was trying to install...they
> said use vanilla sources and patch.
>
> On Dec 8, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Tom Smith wrote:
>
>> I'm running Win4Lin Terminal Server 3... They may have fixed the
>> problem in your version.
>>  
>> How do I go about getting a "win4lin-sources" kernel? I was unable to
>> one anywhere. Maybe I would have better luck with that.
>>
>> */Ron Bickers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >/* wrote:
>>
>> On Thu December 8 2005 16:47, Tom Smith wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry, my brain's mush... I'm just a whole lot of tired! The
>> problem is
>> > that the Num Lock keypad doesn't work.
>>
>> I just tried it and it works for me. I'm running win4lin-5.1.1 (from
>> portage) with Win98SE and my custom win4lin-sources-2.6.11-r11
>> kernel, which
>> is just a 2.6.11 gentoo-sources ebuild with the Win4Lin patches
>> added.
>>
>> -- 
>> Ron
>>
>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-23 Thread Holly Bostick
Tom Smith schreef:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +, Peter Ruskin wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you 
>>> need is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
>>  showed and make sure they are all installed.
>> 
>> 
> That was my original question that started this thread... Which 
> Gentoo packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that
>  RPM indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered.

The RPM errors do not mean that those packages are not installed.

I mean, come on--
> error: Failed dependencies: /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> ld-linux.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libICE.so.6 is needed 
> by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libSM.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libX11.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libXext.so.6 is needed 
> by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libXi.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libc.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libcrypt.so.1 is needed by
>  Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libgdk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libglib-1.2.so.0 is
>  needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libgmodule-1.2.so.0 is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libgtk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libm.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libnsl.so.1 is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpam.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 
> libpthread.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libutil.so.1 is 
> needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libz.so.1 is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libcrypt.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libnsl.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01 libutil.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by 
> Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01

Surely you don't think that you're missing /bin/sh or glibc!!

The issue here is that RPMs use an RPM database to keep track of what is
installed. You don't have an RPM database, because Gentoo is
not a binary RPM-based distribution and therefore none of the
dependencies were installed via RPM. You are never going to be able to
convince the RPM which you're trying to install independently that the
programs are already present.

This is why --nodeps was suggested; the RPM you're trying to install
won't then try to scan the non-existant database for programs that are
installed, but not via RPM. Presumably the ebuilds for RPM applications
do a complex process of linking the various aspects of the pre-compiled
binary to the previously-existing aspects of the Gentoo system, so that
the RPM doesn't freak out, and the Gentoo system can access the RPM program.

Win4Lin is, naturally, a very complicated install, and so it's not as if
you could just 'pop it in' as if it was Flash or the ATI drivers
(one-function applications that don't require hooks to many parts of the
base system). Were I you, I would consider looking at the most recent
Win4Lin ebuild and see how it does it, then either try copying the
ebuild to my overlay and updating it to work with the current version
you have-- or as previously suggested, contacting the maintainer of the
Win4Lin ebuild (or posting a bug to that effect) and seeing if you can
get an update. After all, the maintainer will have to do this sometime,
when the app is released, and perhaps it's a difficult procedure that
takes some time. So it might be worthwhile to give said maintainer a
heads-up now and get the ball rolling if it is not. At the very least,
you might be able to get some tips as to how to get a
provisional/temporary/overlay ebuild working, or what the issues
involved might be.

HTH,
Holly

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:42:06 -0700, Tom Smith wrote:

> >Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
> >showed and make sure they are all installed.

> That was my original question that started this thread... Which Gentoo 
> packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that RPM 
> indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered.

The key word here is "indicated". rpm only knows about the files in its
database, files that were themselves installed by rpm. Obviously, that
database is empty on a Gentoo system as everything has been installed from
portage.

What you need to do is go through the list of files that rpm says it
needs and check for the existence of each one with locate (run updatedb
before you start, to be safe). You may well find that they all exist, in
which case you can call rpm with --nodeps. If not, you'll have a far
shorter list of truly missing files to check up on. If the package for a
file is not obvious from its name, try searching for it on
http://rpmfind.net or http://packages.debian.org. This will tell you
which package supplies this file on other distros, the Gentoo package
will generally have a similar name.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-23 Thread Tom Smith

Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +, Peter Ruskin wrote:

 

Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you need 
is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."
   



Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
showed and make sure they are all installed.
 

That was my original question that started this thread... Which Gentoo 
packages do I need to install to satisfy the dependencies that RPM 
indicated were missing? That question has yet to be answered.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:16:52 +, Peter Ruskin wrote:

> Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you need 
> is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."

Before you do that, check through the list of dependencies that rpm
showed and make sure they are all installed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-22 Thread Dale

Tom Smith wrote:



Because the Portage Win4Lin is at version 5--the Netraverse version is 
at 6 and includes additional "Pro" utilities that provide the Terminal 
Server functionality, among other things.


Maybe some poor soul, Tom Smith maybe ;, can ask them to update the 
thing to version 6?  It sounds easier than all this stuff for sure.  
Gentoo is a bit off base for rpm stuff.  Surely there a package 
maintaner that could get it updated to version 6.  May even be working 
on it and need a tester.


Just thinking out loud, sort of.

Dale
:-)

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3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-22 Thread Tom Smith

Dale wrote:

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed so maybe I am missing 
something.  Why not do a emerge win4lin and be done with it?  Why does 
it have to be a rpm install when it is in portage?  Like I said, maybe 
I'm missing something here.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -p win4lin

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] app-emulation/win4lin-5.1.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #




Looks simple to me.  I'm confused, which is normal for me, don't worry.

Dale
:-)


Because the Portage Win4Lin is at version 5--the Netraverse version is 
at 6 and includes additional "Pro" utilities that provide the Terminal 
Server functionality, among other things.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-22 Thread John Jolet


On Dec 22, 2005, at 8:46 PM, Dale wrote:


Peter Ruskin wrote:


On Thursday 22 December 2005 23:47, Tom Smith wrote:


Here's the
error that "rpm -ivh Win4Lin..." generates:

error: Failed dependencies:
   /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01


...

Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you  
need is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."



I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed so maybe I am missing  
something.  Why not do a emerge win4lin and be done with it?  Why  
does it have to be a rpm install when it is in portage?  Like I  
said, maybe I'm missing something here.


well, not sure about the pro version, but the regular version  
vanished from portage.  had to download the rpm, emerge rpm, and  
vanilla sources, patch my kernel, rebuild, install new kernel, then  
install the rpm.  been great other than that :).



[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -p win4lin

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] app-emulation/win4lin-5.1.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #



Looks simple to me.  I'm confused, which is normal for me, don't  
worry.


Dale
:-)


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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and  
right now two 80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a  
4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and  
a 2.5GB drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram  
and a 4.3GB SCSI drive.


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4 are set up as servers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-22 Thread Dale

Peter Ruskin wrote:


On Thursday 22 December 2005 23:47, Tom Smith wrote:
 


Here's the
error that "rpm -ivh Win4Lin..." generates:

error: Failed dependencies:
   /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   


...

Well, of course!  This is Gentoo - no rpm hell here!  What you need 
is "rpm -ivh --nodeps Win4Lin..."


 

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed so maybe I am missing something.  
Why not do a emerge win4lin and be done with it?  Why does it have to be 
a rpm install when it is in portage?  Like I said, maybe I'm missing 
something here.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -p win4lin

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] app-emulation/win4lin-5.1.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #



Looks simple to me.  I'm confused, which is normal for me, don't worry.

Dale
:-)


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I have four rigs:

1:  Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 
80GB hard drives.
2:  Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive.
3:  Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB 
drive.
4:  Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB 
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[gentoo-user] Win4Lin Pro install errors

2005-12-22 Thread Tom Smith
I'm getting a failed dependencies error indicating that there are a 
number of failed deps. I think I know what some of them are but have no 
idea which Gentoo packages the others can be installed from. Here's the 
error that "rpm -ivh Win4Lin..." generates:


error: Failed dependencies:
   /bin/sh is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   ld-linux.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libICE.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libSM.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libX11.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libXext.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libXi.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libc.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libcrypt.so.1 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libdl.so.2 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libgdk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libglib-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libgmodule-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libgtk-1.2.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libm.so.6 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libnsl.so.1 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libpam.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libpthread.so.0 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libutil.so.1 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libz.so.1 is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libcrypt.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libnsl.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01
   libutil.so.1(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Win4LinPro-6.2.5-01

Thanks in advance for your help.

~ Tom
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin NumLock issue

2005-12-08 Thread John Jolet
that no longer exists.at least that's what I was told when I was trying to install...they said use vanilla sources and patch.On Dec 8, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Tom Smith wrote:I'm running Win4Lin Terminal Server 3... They may have fixed the problem in your version.     How do I go about getting a "win4lin-sources" kernel? I was unable to one anywhere. Maybe I would have better luck with that.Ron Bickers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  On Thu December 8 2005 16:47, Tom Smith wrote:> Sorry, my brain's mush... I'm just a whole lot of tired! The problem is> that the Num Lock keypad doesn't work.I just tried it and it works for me. I'm running win4lin-5.1.1 (from portage) with Win98SE and my custom win4lin-sources-2.6.11-r11 kernel, which is just a 2.6.11 gentoo-sources ebuild with the Win4Lin patches added.-- Ron  

Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin NumLock issue

2005-12-08 Thread Tom Smith
I'm running Win4Lin Terminal Server 3... They may have fixed the problem in your version.     How do I go about getting a "win4lin-sources" kernel? I was unable to one anywhere. Maybe I would have better luck with that.Ron Bickers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  On Thu December 8 2005 16:47, Tom Smith wrote:> Sorry, my brain's mush... I'm just a whole lot of tired! The problem is> that the Num Lock keypad doesn't work.I just tried it and it works for me. I'm running win4lin-5.1.1 (from portage) with Win98SE and my custom win4lin-sources-2.6.11-r11 kernel, which is just a 2.6.11 gentoo-sources ebuild with the Win4Lin patches added.-- Ron  

Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin NumLock issue

2005-12-08 Thread Tom Smith
Sorry, my brain's mush... I'm just a whole lot of tired! The problem is that the Num Lock keypad doesn't work.     I reported this issue to Netraverse back in January and they apparently still don't have it fixed. It's definately something with their software but I saw some references to creating X keyboard maps that would work here:     http://www.win4lin.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=630&sid=36cf0abf24ce9fa6aa0dfba108f75dce     This doesn't work, though. Win4Lin Terminal Server (what I'm using, runs Win98 SE) complains that the Xvnc.code differs from the X server configuration and won't start.     Any thoughts?Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  On Thursday 08 December 2005 20:31, Tom Smith wrote:> Earlier this year, I worked with Netraverse on trying to solve> this issue... I was able to get a Mandrake 9 server working> (NumLock included) but couldn't get the same results when I tried> to migrate to Mandrake 10. MDK 9 was working so I left the issue> alone.>> Now I'm trying to get Gentoo 2005.1 to work and am having the> same fricken' issue. I'm using kernel 2.6.11.11 from> vanilla-sources. I've already put in (yet another) support ticket> to Netraverse but thought I'd ask some of the users/developers on> this list for some suggestions to resolve the problem.>> The general consensus that I'm finding (from googling) is that> it's some sort of keyboard mapping issue, but I've been unable to> find a solution to the problem.>It's not clear from this post what problem you'r!
 e having.
 I do know, however, that with Win4LinPro (not Win4Lin), there is a bug with UK keyboards when emulating W2K where the numlock action is reversed. US keyboards work OK.I know this because I reported it. It's annoyingly still there after several official and test releases. You'll just have to wait for Win4Lin, Inc. to come up with a fix (if that really is your problem).-- PeterGentoo Linux: Portage 2.0.51.22-r3. kernel-2.6.13-gentoo-r5.i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+. gcc(GCC): 3.4.4.KDE: 3.5.0. Qt: 3.3.4.-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list  

[gentoo-user] Win4Lin NumLock issue

2005-12-08 Thread Tom Smith
Earlier this year, I worked with Netraverse on trying to solve this issue... I was able to get a Mandrake 9 server working (NumLock included) but couldn't get the same results when I tried to migrate to Mandrake 10. MDK 9 was working so I left the issue alone.     Now I'm trying to get Gentoo 2005.1 to work and am having the same fricken' issue. I'm using kernel 2.6.11.11 from vanilla-sources. I've already put in (yet another) support ticket to Netraverse but thought I'd ask some of the users/developers on this list for some suggestions to resolve the problem.     The general consensus that I'm finding (from googling) is that it's some sort of keyboard mapping issue, but I've been unable to find a solution to the problem.     Thanks in advance for any help.     ~ Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin TS support?

2005-12-06 Thread Tom Smith
  That worked! I had to go back to vanilla-sources-2.6.11.11 to get full SMP support (Win4Lin issue) but the kernel patched correctly and loaded the MKI module.     It's a bummer that I can't use gentoo-sources, or "win4lin-sources" (wherever they are), for this. I was hoping to take advantage of some of the gentoo-specific kernel enhancements and patches.     Oh well, vanilla's working and that's what's important.     Thanks for your help, John.John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  On Dec 5, 2005, at 2:38 PM, Tom Smith wrote:> Hm... I guess all I can say is that the log file indicated that > everything patched correctly--that is, it listed the file names it > was patching and there were no errors.>>!
 ; When I
 tried to reapply the patch, it recognized that it had > already been applied and asked if I wanted to reverse it or apply > it again.>> This is what the problem is. Suggestions?and what happens if you patch against vanilla-sources?-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list  

Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin TS support?

2005-12-05 Thread John Jolet


On Dec 5, 2005, at 2:38 PM, Tom Smith wrote:

Hm... I guess all I can say is that the log file indicated that  
everything patched correctly--that is, it listed the file names it  
was patching and there were no errors.


When I tried to reapply the patch, it recognized that it had  
already been applied and asked if I wanted to reverse it or apply  
it again.


This is what the problem is. Suggestions?

and what happens if you patch against vanilla-sources?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin TS support?

2005-12-05 Thread Tom Smith
Hm... I guess all I can say is that the log file indicated that everything patched correctly--that is, it listed the file names it was patching and there were no errors.     When I tried to reapply the patch, it recognized that it had already been applied and asked if I wanted to reverse it or apply it again.     This is what the problem is. Suggestions?  John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  um, then the patch didn't apply.  On Dec 5, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Tom Smith wrote:Well, I'm using the gentoo-sources (2.6.13) and was able to get the patch to apply. The problem is that I don't have the Netraverse option in menuconfig after patching the kernel.     Is!
  there a
 trick for getting this to work?John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  you have to use the vanilla sources and patch with the kernel patch on the win4lin site. they have a patch for 2.6.12, and 2.6.14, though the latest vanilla kernel I saw was 2.6.13... :) I"m running 2.6.12 right now.On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Tom Smith wrote:> Hi all,>> I've got an MDK 9 server running Win4Lin Terminal Server. I'm > trying to migrate this server AWAY from Mandrake to Gentoo.>> There are referrences everywhere that indicates there's a win4lin- > sources kernel but ! I have yet to find it anywhere.>> Does Gentoo still support Win4Lin "out of the box" as Netraverse > claims? And what do I need to do in order to recomp the kernel with
 > WTS support?>> Thanks in advance for your feedback! Have a wonderful day!>> ~ Tom-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin TS support?

2005-12-05 Thread John Jolet
um, then the patch didn't apply.On Dec 5, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Tom Smith wrote:Well, I'm using the gentoo-sources (2.6.13) and was able to get the patch to apply. The problem is that I don't have the Netraverse option in menuconfig after patching the kernel.     Is there a trick for getting this to work?John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  you have to use the vanilla sources and patch with the kernel patch on the win4lin site. they have a patch for 2.6.12, and 2.6.14, though the latest vanilla kernel I saw was 2.6.13... :) I"m running 2.6.12 right now.On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Tom Smith wrote:> Hi all,>> I've got an MDK 9 server running Win4Lin Terminal Server. I'm > trying to migrate this server AWAY from Mandrake to Gentoo.>> There are referrences everywhere that indicates there's a win4lin- > sources kernel but ! I have yet to find it anywhere.>> Does Gentoo still support Win4Lin "out of the box" as Netraverse > claims? And what do I need to do in order to recomp the kernel with > WTS support?>> Thanks in advance for your feedback! Have a wonderful day!>> ~ Tom-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list  

Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin TS support?

2005-12-05 Thread Tom Smith
Well, I'm using the gentoo-sources (2.6.13) and was able to get the patch to apply. The problem is that I don't have the Netraverse option in menuconfig after patching the kernel.     Is there a trick for getting this to work?John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  you have to use the vanilla sources and patch with the kernel patch on the win4lin site. they have a patch for 2.6.12, and 2.6.14, though the latest vanilla kernel I saw was 2.6.13... :) I"m running 2.6.12 right now.On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Tom Smith wrote:> Hi all,>> I've got an MDK 9 server running Win4Lin Terminal Server. I'm > trying to migrate this server AWAY from Mandrake to Gentoo.>> There are referrences everywhere that indicates there's a win4lin- > sources kernel but !
 I have
 yet to find it anywhere.>> Does Gentoo still support Win4Lin "out of the box" as Netraverse > claims? And what do I need to do in order to recomp the kernel with > WTS support?>> Thanks in advance for your feedback! Have a wonderful day!>> ~ Tom-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list  

Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin TS support?

2005-12-05 Thread John Jolet
you have to use the vanilla sources and patch with the kernel patch  
on the win4lin site.  they have a patch for 2.6.12, and 2.6.14,  
though the latest vanilla kernel I saw was 2.6.13... :)  I"m running  
2.6.12 right now.


On Dec 5, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Tom Smith wrote:


Hi all,

I've got an MDK 9 server running Win4Lin Terminal Server. I'm  
trying to migrate this server AWAY from Mandrake to Gentoo.


There are referrences everywhere that indicates there's a win4lin- 
sources kernel but I have yet to find it anywhere.


Does Gentoo still support Win4Lin "out of the box" as Netraverse  
claims? And what do I need to do in order to recomp the kernel with  
WTS support?


Thanks in advance for your feedback! Have a wonderful day!

~ Tom


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[gentoo-user] Win4Lin TS support?

2005-12-05 Thread Tom Smith
Hi all,     I've got an MDK 9 server running Win4Lin Terminal Server. I'm trying to migrate this server AWAY from Mandrake to Gentoo.     There are referrences everywhere that indicates there's a win4lin-sources kernel but I have yet to find it anywhere.     Does Gentoo still support Win4Lin "out of the box" as Netraverse claims? And what do I need to do in order to recomp the kernel with WTS support?     Thanks in advance for your feedback! Have a wonderful day!     ~ Tom

Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Thursday 25 August 2005 10:58 pm, Holly Bostick wrote:
> John Jolet schreef:
> > On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >>Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
> >>
> >>- Mark
> >
> > well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether
> > it's temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any
> > other modules or patches this week.
>
> You guys need to look at b.g.o. more often.
>
> From http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83509:
>
>
> -- Additional Comment #5 From  Jory A. Pratt  2005-08-15 15:11 PDT
> [reply] ---
>
> So  you all know seems bass has stated that he does not have time to
> maintain
> the win4lin sources I will do my best to get it readded as soon as
> possible. I
> will also request his permission to update the ebuild for all fixes that
> are needed.
>
> OK?
>
> :)
>
> H.

Sounds great to me Holly! (but then I just melt at anything you say anyway:O))

Althought I think the 2.6.12's are maybe a bit of a problem, at least trying 
to patch the ck-sources I use are a problem after 2.6.11, I can't get them 
going. I'm still stuck with 2.6.11-ck8.

Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Friday 26 August 2005 12:03 pm, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> On 8/26/05, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Aug 26, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:20:11 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
> > >> okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's
> > >> emerge gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?
> > >
> > > emerge -av " > >
> > > will get you the latest version prior to 2.6.11, which is a 2.6.9
> > > revision for gentoo-sources. 2.6.11 is still in vanilla sources.
> > >
> > > emerge -av " >
> > Thanks guys.  One last question...what's the drawback to using the
> > vanilla sources?  I'm assuming gentoo-sources were patched from them
> > for a reason.
>
> There is much here I don't understand.  Isn't it possible for someone
> who actually
> got one of the missing ebuilds to re-build an ebuild and pass it
> around?  For instance,
> I seem to have
>
> linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
> linux-2.6.11.11
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r4
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9
> linux-2.6.7-gentoo-r11
> linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r2
> linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r5
>
> of which I seem to be actually running (according to uname)
> 2.6.12-gentoo-r6-kosmanor #1 SMP
>
> Isn't it possible to package one of these and share it?  (Provided anyone
> would trust me not to be malicious).
Kevin,
Did you successfully patch that kernel for win4lin?

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread Ron Bickers
On Fri August 26 2005 01:21 pm, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> > I have a modified gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r11 ebuild that I've been using
> > as an overlay and it's been working fine for me for months.  I'll be
> > happy to share if anyone is interested.
>
> Yes please.

Ok.  You can get the ebuild tree sys-kernel/win4lin-sources from here:

http://www.logicetc.com/~rbickers/win4lin-sources.tar.bz2

Also, it appears the base and extras for that version are no longer 
available, so you'll need to put them in /usr/portage/distfiles; the rest of 
the needed sources can still be fetched.

http://www.logicetc.com/~rbickers/genpatches-2.6.11-14.base.tar.bz2
http://www.logicetc.com/~rbickers/genpatches-2.6.11-14.extras.tar.bz2

Let me know if anything is broken.

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 8/26/05, Ron Bickers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu August 25 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> 
> > I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out certain
> > windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched kernel
> > available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?
> 
> I have a modified gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r11 ebuild that I've been using as an
> overlay and it's been working fine for me for months.  I'll be happy to
> share if anyone is interested.

Yes please.

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:03:49 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> There is much here I don't understand.  Isn't it possible for someone
> who actually
> got one of the missing ebuilds to re-build an ebuild and pass it
> around?  For instance,
> I seem to have
> 
> linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
> linux-2.6.11.11
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r4
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9
> linux-2.6.7-gentoo-r11
> linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r2
> linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r5
> 
> Isn't it possible to package one of these and share it?  (Provided
> anyone would trust me not to be malicious).

You already have the ebuild if it is installed, in /var/db/pkg. Portage
needs to keep the ebuilds of installed packages in order to uninstall
them.

There is an area on the Gentoo CVS server that hold old ebuilds removed
from portage.


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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread Ron Bickers
On Thu August 25 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:

> I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out certain
> windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched kernel
> available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?

I have a modified gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r11 ebuild that I've been using as an 
overlay and it's been working fine for me for months.  I'll be happy to 
share if anyone is interested.

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 8/26/05, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 26, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:20:11 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
> >
> >
> >> okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's
> >> emerge gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?
> >>
> >
> > emerge -av " >
> > will get you the latest version prior to 2.6.11, which is a 2.6.9
> > revision for gentoo-sources. 2.6.11 is still in vanilla sources.
> >
> > emerge -av " Thanks guys.  One last question...what's the drawback to using the
> vanilla sources?  I'm assuming gentoo-sources were patched from them
> for a reason.

There is much here I don't understand.  Isn't it possible for someone
who actually
got one of the missing ebuilds to re-build an ebuild and pass it
around?  For instance,
I seem to have

linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
linux-2.6.11.11
linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r4
linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9
linux-2.6.7-gentoo-r11
linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r2
linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r5

of which I seem to be actually running (according to uname)
2.6.12-gentoo-r6-kosmanor #1 SMP

Isn't it possible to package one of these and share it?  (Provided anyone
would trust me not to be malicious).

++ kevin



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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread John Jolet


On Aug 26, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:20:11 -0500, John Jolet wrote:



okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's
emerge gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?



emerge -av "Thanks guys.  One last question...what's the drawback to using the  
vanilla sources?  I'm assuming gentoo-sources were patched from them  
for a reason.

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:20:11 -0500, John Jolet wrote:

> okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's
> emerge gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?

emerge -av "

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-26 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:20:11PM -0500, John Jolet wrote:
> okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's emerge 
> gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?

hum, that's funny, I was going to tell you

 emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11

but equery list -p gentoo-sources shows there are no longer any 2.6.11
kernel in gentoo-sources. You best bets are

 emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r9

or

 emerge =sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.11.11

Note that the patches on Win4Lin's website are version specific. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Nick Rout
how about eix gentoo-sources ?

but in fact if he wants to cleanly apply outside patches he may be
better to use vanilla-sources

There seem to be 2.6.11's in vanilla-sources


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:03:34 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:

> However first do
> 
> slocate gentoo-sources | grep ebuild
> 
> and make sure you have an ebuild for the kernel you are intersted in.
> It may be gone. I have no 2.6.11 ebuilds anymore

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:52:11 -0500
John Jolet wrote:

> >
> >
> > W
> I appreciate everyone's help with this, but that changelog entry doesn't 
> really tell me why it's gone and that it won't come back. 

No it just tells you that the dependency has been removed, so the
assumption has been made ...

> I'm willing to 
> downgrade to 2.6.11, if someone can tell me how.  I can see how to emerge new 
> kernel sources, but can't find a reference in the emerge docs that say how to 
> do old ones.
> 

if you want a precise version you need to put an = sign in front of the
package name, like:

emerge =vanilla-sources-2.6.11.12



> Thanks again, guys.
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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On 8/25/05, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > # ChangeLog for app-emulation/win4lin
> > # Copyright 2002-2005 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2
> > # $Header:
> > #
> > /var/www/www.gentoo.org/raw_cvs/gentoo-x86/app-emulation/win4lin/ChangeLog,
> >v # 1.22 2005/08/15 16:51:48 plasmaroo Exp $
> >
> >   15 Aug 2005; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> win4lin-4.0.12.ebuild,
> > win4lin-4.0.16.ebuild, win4lin-4.0.20.ebuild,
> > win4lin-4.0.22.ebuild,
> > win4lin-5.0.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.0.4.ebuild,
> > win4lin-5.0.8.ebuild,
> > win4lin-5.1.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.1.ebuild:
> >   Remove winkernel/win4lin-sources DEPEND.
> >
> > You should just go to win4lin.com and download the kernel patch
> > yourself. The Readme.txt file does an okay job of telling you what to
> > do. But you do need to downgrade to 2.6.11.x (instead of 2.6.12)
> >
> > W
> I appreciate everyone's help with this, but that changelog entry doesn't
> really tell me why it's gone and that it won't come back.  I'm willing to
> downgrade to 2.6.11, if someone can tell me how.  I can see how to emerge new
> kernel sources, but can't find a reference in the emerge docs that say how to
> do old ones.
> 
> Thanks again, guys.

Like this:

flash ~ #  emerge -pv  =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r9

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r9  -build -doc
-symlink (-ultra1) 35,615 kB

Total size of downloads: 35,615 kB
flash ~ #

However first do

slocate gentoo-sources | grep ebuild

and make sure you have an ebuild for the kernel you are intersted in.
It may be gone. I have no 2.6.11 ebuilds anymore

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Holly Bostick
John Jolet schreef:
> On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 
> 
>>Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
>>
>>- Mark
> 
> well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether it's 
> temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any other 
> modules or patches this week.

You guys need to look at b.g.o. more often.

>From http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83509:


-- Additional Comment #5 From  Jory A. Pratt  2005-08-15 15:11 PDT
[reply] ---

So  you all know seems bass has stated that he does not have time to
maintain
the win4lin sources I will do my best to get it readded as soon as
possible. I
will also request his permission to update the ebuild for all fixes that
are needed.

OK?

:)

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread John Jolet
>
> # ChangeLog for app-emulation/win4lin
> # Copyright 2002-2005 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2
> # $Header:
> #
> /var/www/www.gentoo.org/raw_cvs/gentoo-x86/app-emulation/win4lin/ChangeLog,
>v # 1.22 2005/08/15 16:51:48 plasmaroo Exp $
>
>   15 Aug 2005; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> win4lin-4.0.12.ebuild,
> win4lin-4.0.16.ebuild, win4lin-4.0.20.ebuild,
> win4lin-4.0.22.ebuild,
> win4lin-5.0.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.0.4.ebuild,
> win4lin-5.0.8.ebuild,
> win4lin-5.1.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.1.ebuild:
>   Remove winkernel/win4lin-sources DEPEND.
>
> You should just go to win4lin.com and download the kernel patch
> yourself. The Readme.txt file does an okay job of telling you what to
> do. But you do need to downgrade to 2.6.11.x (instead of 2.6.12)
>
> W
I appreciate everyone's help with this, but that changelog entry doesn't 
really tell me why it's gone and that it won't come back.  I'm willing to 
downgrade to 2.6.11, if someone can tell me how.  I can see how to emerge new 
kernel sources, but can't find a reference in the emerge docs that say how to 
do old ones.

Thanks again, guys.
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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:17:48PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
> 
> - Mark

doubt it. According to the changelog for Win4Lin

# ChangeLog for app-emulation/win4lin
# Copyright 2002-2005 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2
# $Header:
# /var/www/www.gentoo.org/raw_cvs/gentoo-x86/app-emulation/win4lin/ChangeLog,v
# 1.22 2005/08/15 16:51:48 plasmaroo Exp $

  15 Aug 2005; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> win4lin-4.0.12.ebuild,
win4lin-4.0.16.ebuild, win4lin-4.0.20.ebuild,
win4lin-4.0.22.ebuild,
win4lin-5.0.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.0.4.ebuild,
win4lin-5.0.8.ebuild,
win4lin-5.1.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.1.ebuild:
  Remove winkernel/win4lin-sources DEPEND.

You should just go to win4lin.com and download the kernel patch
yourself. The Readme.txt file does an okay job of telling you what to
do. But you do need to downgrade to 2.6.11.x (instead of 2.6.12)

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread John Jolet
On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:39, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:23:10 -0500
>
> John Jolet wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
> > >
> > > - Mark
> >
> > well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether
> > it's temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any
> > other modules or patches this week.
>
> I have just asked on the gentoo-dev mailing list and will let you know
> when i get a response.
>
> if you want a plain kernel to patch
>
> emerge vanilla-sources.
>
> IIRC win4lin only works on 2.4 kernels.
>
> > --
>
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they have patches for 2.6.11.
how do you emerge a particular version of gentoo-sources...or vanilla-sources, 
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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:23:10 -0500
John Jolet wrote:

> On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 
> >
> > Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
> >
> > - Mark
> well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether it's 
> temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any other 
> modules or patches this week.

I have just asked on the gentoo-dev mailing list and will let you know
when i get a response.

if you want a plain kernel to patch 

emerge vanilla-sources.

IIRC win4lin only works on 2.4 kernels.



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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:08:06 -0500
John Jolet wrote:

> yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge --search 
> win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I should be 
> searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and mandrake for 5 
> years, though.


Hell they must have disappeared very recently, i just did 

eix win4lin

and got a result, but after I did update-eix, win4lin-sources has
disappeared!!

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread John Jolet
On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:

>
> Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
>
> - Mark
well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether it's 
temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any other 
modules or patches this week.
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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread John Jolet
okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's emerge 
gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?

On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:13, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> I'd just get vanilla or even better emerge gentoo-sources 2.6.11? and then
> go to the w4l site and get teh patches for that kernel, the patching is
> pretty simple and described there pretty well, then just build yourself a
> new kernel with the patches and go to town..
>
> Mike
>
> (I'd go to the kernel building howto's, and don't use genkernel. make
> oldconfig, and make menuconfig is your freind after the patching, I have no
> success with 2.6.12 yet tho),
> Try www.pickledonion.net for more info too.
>
> On Thursday 25 August 2005 10:08 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> > yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge
> > --search win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I
> > should be searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and
> > mandrake for 5 years, though.
> >
> > On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:54, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> > > On Thursday 25 August 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> > > > I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out
> > > > certain windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a
> > > > patched kernel available for this.  Does anyone know anything about
> > > > this?  The instructions they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources,
> > > > but emerge --search finds nothing answering to this.  I've already
> > > > emerged the win4lin itself, but without the kernel patches, it won't
> > > > work.  Running 2005.1. I've got 29 days left to get my money back :)
> > > > though I'd really like this to work. --
> > >
> > > The Win4Lin-sources appear to be gone?? they used to be there.
> > > Although I usually patch my own kernel for the ck-sources
> > > optimizations. I think the gentoo, or vanilla sources patch pretty
> > > straight foreward, although I'd stick with 2.6.11, as the 2.6.12 series
> > > are problematic with the win4lin patch set so far.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > > John Jolet
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> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > > Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org  |
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> > > Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com   |
> > > Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com |
> > > |
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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On 8/25/05, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge --search
> win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I should be
> searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and mandrake for 5
> years, though.
> 

On my Myth frontend machine which hasn't been synced in at least a month:

myth14 ~ # emerge -s win4lin
Searching...
[ Results for search key : win4lin ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]

*  app-emulation/win4lin
  Latest version available: 5.1.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 5,150 kB
  Homepage:http://www.netraverse.com/
  Description: Win4Lin allows you run Windows applications
somewhat natively under linux.
  License: NeTraverse

*  sys-kernel/win4lin-sources
  Latest version available: 2.4.26-r13
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 30,486 kB
  Homepage:http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.netraverse.com/
  Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel, with Win4Lin support.
  License: GPL-2


myth14 ~ #

flash ~ #  emerge -s win4lin
Searching...
[ Results for search key : win4lin ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  app-emulation/win4lin
  Latest version available: 5.1.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 5,150 kB
  Homepage:http://www.netraverse.com/
  Description: Win4Lin allows you run Windows applications
somewhat natively under linux.
  License: NeTraverse


flash ~ #

Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?

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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Michael W. Holdeman

I'd just get vanilla or even better emerge gentoo-sources 2.6.11? and then go 
to the w4l site and get teh patches for that kernel, the patching is pretty 
simple and described there pretty well, then just build yourself a new kernel 
with the patches and go to town..

Mike

(I'd go to the kernel building howto's, and don't use genkernel. make 
oldconfig, and make menuconfig is your freind after the patching, I have no 
success with 2.6.12 yet tho), 
Try www.pickledonion.net for more info too.

On Thursday 25 August 2005 10:08 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge
> --search win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I should
> be searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and mandrake
> for 5 years, though.
>
> On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:54, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 August 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> > > I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out
> > > certain windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a
> > > patched kernel available for this.  Does anyone know anything about
> > > this?  The instructions they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources,
> > > but emerge --search finds nothing answering to this.  I've already
> > > emerged the win4lin itself, but without the kernel patches, it won't
> > > work.  Running 2005.1. I've got 29 days left to get my money back :) 
> > > though I'd really like this to work. --
> >
> > The Win4Lin-sources appear to be gone?? they used to be there.
> > Although I usually patch my own kernel for the ck-sources optimizations.
> > I think the gentoo, or vanilla sources patch pretty straight foreward,
> > although I'd stick with 2.6.11, as the 2.6.12 series are problematic with
> > the win4lin patch set so far.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > John Jolet
> > > Your On-Demand IT Department
> > > 512-762-0729
> > > www.jolet.net
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > --
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> > Michael W. Holdeman
> >
> >
> > 
> > Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org  |
> > Kernel 2.6.11-ck8   |
> > Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com   |
> > Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com |
> > |
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread John Jolet
yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge --search 
win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I should be 
searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and mandrake for 5 
years, though.

On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:54, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> On Thursday 25 August 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> > I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out
> > certain windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched
> > kernel available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?  The
> > instructions they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources, but emerge
> > --search finds nothing answering to this.  I've already emerged the
> > win4lin itself, but without the kernel patches, it won't work.  Running
> > 2005.1. I've got 29 days left to get my money back :)  though I'd really
> > like this to work. --
>
> The Win4Lin-sources appear to be gone?? they used to be there.
> Although I usually patch my own kernel for the ck-sources optimizations. I
> think the gentoo, or vanilla sources patch pretty straight foreward,
> although I'd stick with 2.6.11, as the 2.6.12 series are problematic with
> the win4lin patch set so far.
>
> Mike
>
> Mike
>
> > John Jolet
> > Your On-Demand IT Department
> > 512-762-0729
> > www.jolet.net
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Michael W. Holdeman
>
>
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Thursday 25 August 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out certain
> windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched kernel
> available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?  The
> instructions they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources, but emerge
> --search finds nothing answering to this.  I've already emerged the win4lin
> itself, but without the kernel patches, it won't work.  Running 2005.1. 
> I've got 29 days left to get my money back :)  though I'd really like this
> to work. --

The Win4Lin-sources appear to be gone?? they used to be there.
Although I usually patch my own kernel for the ck-sources optimizations. I 
think the gentoo, or vanilla sources patch pretty straight foreward, although 
I'd stick with 2.6.11, as the 2.6.12 series are problematic with the win4lin 
patch set so far.

Mike

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[gentoo-user] win4lin

2005-08-25 Thread John Jolet
I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out certain 
windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched kernel 
available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?  The instructions 
they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources, but emerge --search finds 
nothing answering to this.  I've already emerged the win4lin itself, but 
without the kernel patches, it won't work.  Running 2005.1.  I've got 29 days 
left to get my money back :)  though I'd really like this to work.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin problems

2005-06-25 Thread Michael Sullivan
I don't think I have it:

baby ~ # /etc/init.d/vnetd status
-bash: /etc/init.d/vnetd: No such file or directory

I'm running emerge -Ss vnetd right now to see if I can find out how to
get vnetd.  Any advice?

On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 15:09 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
> Try running /etc/init.d/vnetd status
> If it says started but ps ax | grep vnetd returns nothing, "zap" it:
> /etc/init.d/vnetd zap   then /etc/init.d/vnetd start   again.
> 
> On 6/25/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't think that vnetd is running, even though I think I started it:
> > 
> > baby ~ # /opt/win4lin/bin/vnetd
> > baby ~ # ps ax | grep 'vnetd'
> > 11865 pts/1R+ 0:00 grep vnetd
> > 
> > Did I format my ps command correctly?
> > 
> > On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 11:11 -0400, Ron Bickers wrote:
> > > On Sat June 25 2005 09:53 am, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Are you running a Win4Lin patched kernel (eg, win4lin-sources)?
> > > >
> > > > Yes:
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a
> > > > Linux baby 2.6.11-win4lin #1 Fri Jun 24 15:34:04 CDT 2005 i686 AMD
> > > > Duron(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
> > >
> > > You should also have vnetd running as a result of running the Win4Lin 
> > > service
> > > (remember to add Win4Lin to your default startup).  Can you start/restart
> > > the Win4Lin service without errors and is vnetd running?
> > >
> > > Those are the only two things I've seen cause that error.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ron
> > 
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> > 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin problems

2005-06-25 Thread Mark Shields
Try running /etc/init.d/vnetd status
If it says started but ps ax | grep vnetd returns nothing, "zap" it:
/etc/init.d/vnetd zap   then /etc/init.d/vnetd start   again.

On 6/25/05, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think that vnetd is running, even though I think I started it:
> 
> baby ~ # /opt/win4lin/bin/vnetd
> baby ~ # ps ax | grep 'vnetd'
> 11865 pts/1R+ 0:00 grep vnetd
> 
> Did I format my ps command correctly?
> 
> On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 11:11 -0400, Ron Bickers wrote:
> > On Sat June 25 2005 09:53 am, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> >
> > > > Are you running a Win4Lin patched kernel (eg, win4lin-sources)?
> > >
> > > Yes:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a
> > > Linux baby 2.6.11-win4lin #1 Fri Jun 24 15:34:04 CDT 2005 i686 AMD
> > > Duron(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
> >
> > You should also have vnetd running as a result of running the Win4Lin 
> > service
> > (remember to add Win4Lin to your default startup).  Can you start/restart
> > the Win4Lin service without errors and is vnetd running?
> >
> > Those are the only two things I've seen cause that error.
> >
> > --
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> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin problems

2005-06-25 Thread Michael Sullivan
I don't think that vnetd is running, even though I think I started it:

baby ~ # /opt/win4lin/bin/vnetd
baby ~ # ps ax | grep 'vnetd'
11865 pts/1R+ 0:00 grep vnetd

Did I format my ps command correctly?

On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 11:11 -0400, Ron Bickers wrote:
> On Sat June 25 2005 09:53 am, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > > Are you running a Win4Lin patched kernel (eg, win4lin-sources)?
> >
> > Yes:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a
> > Linux baby 2.6.11-win4lin #1 Fri Jun 24 15:34:04 CDT 2005 i686 AMD
> > Duron(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
> 
> You should also have vnetd running as a result of running the Win4Lin service 
> (remember to add Win4Lin to your default startup).  Can you start/restart 
> the Win4Lin service without errors and is vnetd running?
> 
> Those are the only two things I've seen cause that error.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin problems

2005-06-25 Thread Ron Bickers
On Sat June 25 2005 09:53 am, Michael Sullivan wrote:

> > Are you running a Win4Lin patched kernel (eg, win4lin-sources)?
>
> Yes:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a
> Linux baby 2.6.11-win4lin #1 Fri Jun 24 15:34:04 CDT 2005 i686 AMD
> Duron(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

You should also have vnetd running as a result of running the Win4Lin service 
(remember to add Win4Lin to your default startup).  Can you start/restart 
the Win4Lin service without errors and is vnetd running?

Those are the only two things I've seen cause that error.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Win4Lin problems

2005-06-24 Thread Ron Bickers
On Fri June 24 2005 04:35 pm, Michael Sullivan wrote:

> I was trying to install Win4Lin and Windows 98 on my computer, but it
> gave me this output (including error):

> MERGE_NL: dos: ERROR: Win4Lin drivers are not loaded or
>   not available for use.  Cannot run DOS or Windows.
>   Either Win4Lin is not fully installed on your system, or the
>   drivers cannot load, or too many simultaneous users.

Are you running a Win4Lin patched kernel (eg, win4lin-sources)?

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[gentoo-user] Win4Lin problems

2005-06-24 Thread Michael Sullivan
I was trying to install Win4Lin and Windows 98 on my computer, but it
gave me this output (including error):

baby ~ #
ebuild  /var/db/pkg/app-emulation/win4lin-5.1.1/win4lin-5.1.1.ebuild
config
Checking the system.

Found bootable CD-ROM. Extracting boot image ...
Copying the Windows files.
+
Copying the Online Services subdirectory.

Set locale info for current system.
Pre-Installation Phase: Installing minimal DOS system...
Installing DOS system files.
Configuring DOS image files.
BIOS V2.09 Copyright 1984, 1985 Award Software Inc.
Quadtel Expanded Memory Manager Copyright(c) 1989, 1990 Quadtel Corp.
All Rights Reserved
Making MDA Image.
MERGE_NL: dos: ERROR: Win4Lin drivers are not loaded or
  not available for use.  Cannot run DOS or Windows.
  Either Win4Lin is not fully installed on your system, or the
  drivers cannot load, or too many simultaneous users.
WARNING: MDA image was not made.
(10)
WARNING: No image files were made.
WARNING: Images creation failed.
ERROR: Failed to make all DOS image files.
 Installation of DOS partialy failed.

ERROR: loadwindowsCD: The pre-installation of DOS has failed.
This is likely due to a damaged boot floppy or image, or one
that is incompatible with your Windows media.

 * You can now run the command "installwindows" from an xterm
 * as a non-root user to install a personal copy of Windows that Win4Lin
 * will use for that user.
 *
 * Win4Lin is a commercial product, you now are using a
evaluation-license
 * for 15 days evaluation. If you want a extra 15 days of evaluation you
 * must run "sh /opt/win4lin/registerme.sh"
 *
 * You can help Gentoo Linux and obatin a full license at a discont
offer
 * for gentoo users in http://www.netraverse.com/gentoo.htm
 * Netraverse donate to Gentoo Linux a percent of each purchase.
 * Thanks Netraverse.
 *
 * Remember, you must do "/etc/init.d/Win4Lin start" before start w4l
 * Also you can add it to default boot "rc-update add Win4Lin default"


I know this is not true because I can install Win4Lin 5 and Windows 98
just fine on a partition with RH 9 running on it.  Any thoughts?

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