Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-25 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 25 February 2006 07:37, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  that is the only change I remember at the moment (and which did not went
  into the wiki).

 Not true anymore :) I just added your changes to the wiki.

'your' is correct, because I 'stole' it from the forum's thread ;)

Nice, that you updated the wiki.
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-24 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 24 February 2006 07:00, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Alexander Kirillov wrote:
  If I got it right here's the link for those interested:
  http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb

 Does this work with recent portage releases?

it stopped some weeks ago - but in the gentoo forums was  updated 
instructions.
I am not sure, if the instructions in the wiki got updated but that is easy to 
find out.
Try it. If it does not work, go to the forum ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-24 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Friday 24 February 2006 07:00, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Alexander Kirillov wrote:
  If I got it right here's the link for those interested:
  http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb

 Does this work with recent portage releases?

 it stopped some weeks ago - but in the gentoo forums was  updated 
 instructions.
 I am not sure, if the instructions in the wiki got updated but that is easy 
 to 
 find out.
 Try it. If it does not work, go to the forum ;)

*LOL* - Now, that's what I'd call a practical approach :)

I just wondered, because even in the most recent portage
releases, there's an einfo text stating, that the cdb
caching module needs to be rewritten.

But, I'll follow your advice and just try it. Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-24 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 24 February 2006 15:37, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
  On Friday 24 February 2006 07:00, Alexander Skwar wrote:
  Alexander Kirillov wrote:
   If I got it right here's the link for those interested:
   http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb
 
  Does this work with recent portage releases?
 
  it stopped some weeks ago - but in the gentoo forums was  updated
  instructions.
  I am not sure, if the instructions in the wiki got updated but that is
  easy to find out.
  Try it. If it does not work, go to the forum ;)

 *LOL* - Now, that's what I'd call a practical approach :)

 I just wondered, because even in the most recent portage
 releases, there's an einfo text stating, that the cdb
 caching module needs to be rewritten.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-261580.html

is the thread.

But beware, in /usr/portage/modules you need this:

portdbapi.auxdbmodule = cache.cdb.database
eclass_cache.dbmodule = cache.cdb.database

not that:

portdbapi.auxdbmodule = portage_db_cdb.database
eclass_cache.dbmodule = portage_db_cdb.database


that is the only change I remember at the moment (and which did not went into 
the wiki).

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-24 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

 that is the only change I remember at the moment (and which did not went into 
 the wiki).

Not true anymore :) I just added your changes to the wiki.

Thanks a lot,

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-23 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 23 February 2006 11:26, Alexander Kirillov wrote:
 I already think Gentoo base system requirements are a bit heavy just
  having python in there.  (I'm trying to run gentoo on my WRT54G 1.1;
  storage over nfs/nbd)  It would be completely over-the-top to require
  Modula 3 support as well.
 
  Just tried cvsup on a FreeBSD box (in vmware) and it totally sucked.
  Took 1hr 20 min to update on a 512KB DSL.
 
  Link wasn't even saturated! Might as well be on 56K connection. DL rate
  max I've seen was 8KB/s

 BSD ports system may not be as complex as Gentoo's
 and needs more attention to maintain port dependencies
 but this abuse of make IS REAL FAST.

portage is REAL SLOW.
So you should install/use cdb, which makes the whole rsync/update process REAL 
FAST.

 If you sync regularly it's usually within 5 min.

it is, with cdb.
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-23 Thread Alexander Kirillov

BSD ports system may not be as complex as Gentoo's
and needs more attention to maintain port dependencies
but this abuse of make IS REAL FAST.


portage is REAL SLOW.
So you should install/use cdb, which makes the whole rsync/update process REAL 
FAST.



If you sync regularly it's usually within 5 min.


it is, with cdb.


Thanks for the hint.
If I got it right here's the link for those interested:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb
Looks very interesting and I wonder why is it not in portage yet?

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-23 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 24 February 2006 00:39, Alexander Kirillov wrote:
 BSD ports system may not be as complex as Gentoo's
 and needs more attention to maintain port dependencies
 but this abuse of make IS REAL FAST.
 
  portage is REAL SLOW.
  So you should install/use cdb, which makes the whole rsync/update process
  REAL FAST.
 
 If you sync regularly it's usually within 5 min.
 
  it is, with cdb.

 Thanks for the hint.
 If I got it right here's the link for those interested:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb
 Looks very interesting and I wonder why is it not in portage yet?

well ,the chat log  tells you why ;)

but you also look into the forum. A portage update broke it for me, and in the 
forum were updated instructions - I don't know, if the gentoowiki was updated 
too.
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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-23 Thread Alexander Skwar
Alexander Kirillov wrote:

 If I got it right here's the link for those interested:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb

Does this work with recent portage releases?

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 18:38, Aniruddha Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync':
 That I can live with. It's the updating portage cache - especially the
 long wait at 50% that drags.

Go ~ for portage, I don't experience such a delay.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-22 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Tue, 2006-02-21 at 05:24 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Tuesday 21 February 2006 04:07, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 about '[gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync':
  Anyone wants to comment??
 
 I already think Gentoo base system requirements are a bit heavy just having 
 python in there.  (I'm trying to run gentoo on my WRT54G 1.1; storage over 
 nfs/nbd)  It would be completely over-the-top to require Modula 3 support 
 as well.

Just tried cvsup on a FreeBSD box (in vmware) and it totally sucked.
Took 1hr 20 min to update on a 512KB DSL.

Link wasn't even saturated! Might as well be on 56K connection. DL rate
max I've seen was 8KB/s


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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-21 Thread Julien Cabillot
On 2/21/06, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [SNIP]

   * Local changes will be preserved if you want them to, just like
 anoncvs. Anyone who's ever had their package.mask file
 overwritten by an emerge rsync will appreciate this feature.

 [SNIP]

If you don't want loose your package.mask, use /etc/portage/package.mask.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 04:07, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync':
 Anyone wants to comment??

I already think Gentoo base system requirements are a bit heavy just having 
python in there.  (I'm trying to run gentoo on my WRT54G 1.1; storage over 
nfs/nbd)  It would be completely over-the-top to require Modula 3 support 
as well.

That said, it would be nice to do away with the building file list... 
delay we have with rsync.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-21 Thread Aniruddha Shankar
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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 That said, it would be nice to do away with the building file list... 
 delay we have with rsync.

That I can live with. It's the updating portage cache - especially the
long wait at 50% that drags.

K


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