Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:29:03 +0100 null_ptr rhan...@gmx.de wrote: I attached them. Old config/lsmod/dmesg is the first parameter of the diff. Looks okay to me; I see in the other thread that it was clarified that this is a problem through the speakers/headset and thus not through the PC speaker, which leads me to think you have either Volker's idea that it is muted in alsa-mixer (why would a kernel upgrade do this?) or you have an actual bug in one of the kernel sound modules (more likely?). If it is a kernel bug, then I think that switching back to the old kernel would make it work again; if that's the case, I suggest you to consider a git bisect between the two releases to find the bad commit: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_git-bisect -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 23/03/14 14:13, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so it is not a 'speaker' problem but a sound card problem. You should have stated that from the beginning. Probably something muted that should not be muted. Myself and at least one other on #gentoo had an issue after a kernel upgrade where we had to re-add our user to the audio group (and relog). # gpasswd -a user audio I couldn't track it down myself because my machine is in a somewhat less than standard state; but the user on #gentoo said they were more or less insert whatever qualifies as normal... - -- wraeth GnuPG Fingerprint: D1FF 129E 77EF FD1F CEA4 F384 1989 6A1D E411 864C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlMutw0ACgkQGYlqHeQRhkxZXAEAgixyVzu9mzKcF6EVDBgz+kVx luOrYG+R/EU3AXWwocAA/AhN3IGchKfY5/QQ9rsI2DrBXsXCGl0lL2TJwyE6wJT3 =BoTp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
On Mar 23, 2014, at 5:13, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 23.03.2014 00:45, schrieb null_ptr: On 22/03/14 23:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 22.03.2014 02:08, schrieb null_ptr: On 21/03/14 14:41, Lee wrote: I can't think of the name of the module, pcspkr IIRC or some such, but it prolly isn't loaded. Modprobe can tell you if it's available load it. On Mar 21, 2014 12:41 PM, Dat G rhan...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/03/14 19:54, Francesco Turco wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014, at 18:51, null_ptr wrote: Module for my sound card is running and SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is activated in kernel config. Am I missing something else? Perhaps you need CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR. I tried building with that and it didn't fix it. modprobe pcspkr doesn't change anything. It is still silent. I also tried building it in the kernel. On the other hand from what I understand the snd_hda_intel should be doing the beeps when the mainboard does not have a physical speaker on the mainboard and instead beeps through the regular sound device. At least on 3.10.25 I had not build the pcspkr module and the system beeped happily. Now, are we talking about the motherboard beeping through a little builtin speaker that does not work or Are we talking about your onboard sound not beeping in your headphones/your attached speakers when there is a motherboard 'beep'? Either way, I don't see any problem at all. A non-beeping computer is a correctly working one. I'm talking about the onboard sound not beeping in the attached headphones/speakers when there is a motherboard 'beep'. The problem is that I used that for some events as a status (e.g. battery running low) and I like the annoying nature of the beep for these events. so it is not a 'speaker' problem but a sound card problem. You should have stated that from the beginning. Probably something muted that should not be muted. Check that you can play sounds from different sources to see that there is no process blocking your alsa driver. If there is a program that is blocking alsa you can find out which process it is by: fuser -v /dev/snd/*
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
On 23/03/14 11:06, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:29:03 +0100 null_ptr rhan...@gmx.de wrote: I attached them. Old config/lsmod/dmesg is the first parameter of the diff. Looks okay to me; I see in the other thread that it was clarified that this is a problem through the speakers/headset and thus not through the PC speaker, which leads me to think you have either Volker's idea that it is muted in alsa-mixer (why would a kernel upgrade do this?) or you have an actual bug in one of the kernel sound modules (more likely?). It's definitely not muted. If it is a kernel bug, then I think that switching back to the old kernel would make it work again; if that's the case, I suggest you to consider a git bisect between the two releases to find the bad commit: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel_git-bisect Switching to the old kernel fixed it so I bisected the linux-stable sources (as in the wiki) and the first bad commit is bd450dcc357. Attached is the bisect.log. Since it seems like it's a kernel bug I will create a bug report. Thanks for the help and sorry that I wasn't as clear in the first place. Bisecting: a merge base must be tested [8bb495e3f02401ee6f76d1b1d77f3ac9f079e376] Linux 3.10 Bisecting: 12493 revisions left to test after this (roughly 14 steps) [987e1d56b3157592d73f7f6170decada716fc415] ixgbe: include QSFP PHY types in ixgbe_is_sfp() Bisecting: 6246 revisions left to test after this (roughly 13 steps) [d2f3e9eb7c9e12e89f0ac5f0dbc7a9aed0ea925d] Merge tag 'fixes-nc-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arm/arm-soc Bisecting: 3132 revisions left to test after this (roughly 12 steps) [5e0b3a4e88012d259e8b2c0f02f393c79686daf9] Merge branch 'sched-core-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip Bisecting: 1289 revisions left to test after this (roughly 11 steps) [a09e9a7a4b907f2dfa9bdb2b98a1828ab4b340b2] Merge branch 'drm-next' of git://people.freedesktop.org/~airlied/linux Bisecting: 917 revisions left to test after this (roughly 10 steps) [ae7a835cc546fc67df90edaaa0c48ae2b22a29fe] Merge branch 'next' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/kvm Bisecting: 459 revisions left to test after this (roughly 9 steps) [90d561bed9619fc08c31eab9315ebe811d41149a] Merge remote-tracking branch 'asoc/topic/fsl' into tmp Bisecting: 232 revisions left to test after this (roughly 8 steps) [79916433f8549564038a7faae26e3ec4135f4b5d] Merge remote-tracking branch 'asoc/topic/rt5640' into asoc-next Bisecting: 141 revisions left to test after this (roughly 7 steps) [a8cc20999799a94929a56393ff39b32245e33d64] alsa/rme96: Add missing inclusion of linux/vmalloc.h Bisecting: 44 revisions left to test after this (roughly 6 steps) [97c4de8fc0a47b99220b1209c7457c7dde05637a] Merge branch 'topic/hda-ad-remove-static' into for-3.12 Bisecting: 22 revisions left to test after this (roughly 5 steps) [2d60fc7f7d3d79e5646646bb34811961f19d111a] ALSA: hdspm - AES32: Enable TCO/Sync-In in snd_hdspm_put_sync_ref() Bisecting: 11 revisions left to test after this (roughly 4 steps) [fc39a7ea9235104b06ee43385d4265f2d078e62b] ALSA: hda - Drop static quirk for Toshiba Satellite L40-10Q Bisecting: 5 revisions left to test after this (roughly 3 steps) [5ccc618fee67f0f0b2122dd4b32a02fd2b6a1569] ALSA: hda - Remove static quirks for AD1884/1984 variants Bisecting: 2 revisions left to test after this (roughly 2 steps) [e0b27167c2d6464ff7ae7e35725024349e44596b] ALSA: hda - Convert the static quirk for Samsung Q1 Ultra Bisecting: 0 revisions left to test after this (roughly 1 step) [36ad45309be840d652394cfb032b592b6a20a3dd] ALSA: hda - Remove static quirks for AD1988 codecs Bisecting: 0 revisions left to test after this (roughly 0 steps) [bd450dcc357646cc277c560ab24b35f940efa585] ALSA: hda - Remove static quirks for AD1981 and AD1983 codecs bd450dcc357646cc277c560ab24b35f940efa585 is the first bad commit commit bd450dcc357646cc277c560ab24b35f940efa585 Author: Takashi Iwai ti...@suse.de Date: Thu Jul 4 15:48:04 2013 +0200 ALSA: hda - Remove static quirks for AD1981 and AD1983 codecs These are relatively easy ones, as we already converted all static quirks to the generic parser. Signed-off-by: Takashi Iwai ti...@suse.de :04 04 8cd5b17b4e02bf6bba92e604726d36a46f3674ca c6dc5c9f6d74012a31c549d4b4c81b657ba235f0 M sound
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 18:35:20 +0100 null_ptr rhan...@gmx.de wrote: On 23/03/14 11:06, Tom Wijsman wrote: Switching to the old kernel fixed it so I bisected the linux-stable sources (as in the wiki) and the first bad commit is bd450dcc357. Attached is the bisect.log. Since it seems like it's a kernel bug I will create a bug report. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/ Can you send me a link me (or CC me) to the kernel bug when you do so? As a kernel maintainer, I can follow and perhaps backport a patch. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
Hello, On Sat, 22 Mar 2014, null_ptr wrote: modprobe pcspkr doesn't change anything. It is still silent. I also tried building it in the kernel. On the other hand from what I understand the snd_hda_intel should be doing the beeps when the mainboard does not have a physical speaker on the mainboard and instead beeps through the regular sound device. At least on 3.10.25 I had not build the pcspkr module and the system beeped happily. Have the module 'pcspkr' available and add 'pcsp=enable=1' to your kernel command line. HTH, -dnh -- Every feature is a bug, unless it can be turned off. -- Karl Heuer
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
Am 22.03.2014 02:08, schrieb null_ptr: On 21/03/14 14:41, Lee wrote: I can't think of the name of the module, pcspkr IIRC or some such, but it prolly isn't loaded. Modprobe can tell you if it's available load it. On Mar 21, 2014 12:41 PM, Dat G rhan...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/03/14 19:54, Francesco Turco wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014, at 18:51, null_ptr wrote: Module for my sound card is running and SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is activated in kernel config. Am I missing something else? Perhaps you need CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR. I tried building with that and it didn't fix it. modprobe pcspkr doesn't change anything. It is still silent. I also tried building it in the kernel. On the other hand from what I understand the snd_hda_intel should be doing the beeps when the mainboard does not have a physical speaker on the mainboard and instead beeps through the regular sound device. At least on 3.10.25 I had not build the pcspkr module and the system beeped happily. you should have started with that bit of information. Now, are we talking about the motherboard beeping through a little builtin speaker that does not work or Are we talking about your onboard sound not beeping in your headphones/your attached speakers when there is a motherboard 'beep'? Either way, I don't see any problem at all. A non-beeping computer is a correctly working one.
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
On 22/03/14 23:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 22.03.2014 02:08, schrieb null_ptr: On 21/03/14 14:41, Lee wrote: I can't think of the name of the module, pcspkr IIRC or some such, but it prolly isn't loaded. Modprobe can tell you if it's available load it. On Mar 21, 2014 12:41 PM, Dat G rhan...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/03/14 19:54, Francesco Turco wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014, at 18:51, null_ptr wrote: Module for my sound card is running and SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is activated in kernel config. Am I missing something else? Perhaps you need CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR. I tried building with that and it didn't fix it. modprobe pcspkr doesn't change anything. It is still silent. I also tried building it in the kernel. On the other hand from what I understand the snd_hda_intel should be doing the beeps when the mainboard does not have a physical speaker on the mainboard and instead beeps through the regular sound device. At least on 3.10.25 I had not build the pcspkr module and the system beeped happily. Now, are we talking about the motherboard beeping through a little builtin speaker that does not work or Are we talking about your onboard sound not beeping in your headphones/your attached speakers when there is a motherboard 'beep'? Either way, I don't see any problem at all. A non-beeping computer is a correctly working one. I'm talking about the onboard sound not beeping in the attached headphones/speakers when there is a motherboard 'beep'. The problem is that I used that for some events as a status (e.g. battery running low) and I like the annoying nature of the beep for these events.
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
Am 23.03.2014 00:45, schrieb null_ptr: On 22/03/14 23:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 22.03.2014 02:08, schrieb null_ptr: On 21/03/14 14:41, Lee wrote: I can't think of the name of the module, pcspkr IIRC or some such, but it prolly isn't loaded. Modprobe can tell you if it's available load it. On Mar 21, 2014 12:41 PM, Dat G rhan...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/03/14 19:54, Francesco Turco wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014, at 18:51, null_ptr wrote: Module for my sound card is running and SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is activated in kernel config. Am I missing something else? Perhaps you need CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR. I tried building with that and it didn't fix it. modprobe pcspkr doesn't change anything. It is still silent. I also tried building it in the kernel. On the other hand from what I understand the snd_hda_intel should be doing the beeps when the mainboard does not have a physical speaker on the mainboard and instead beeps through the regular sound device. At least on 3.10.25 I had not build the pcspkr module and the system beeped happily. Now, are we talking about the motherboard beeping through a little builtin speaker that does not work or Are we talking about your onboard sound not beeping in your headphones/your attached speakers when there is a motherboard 'beep'? Either way, I don't see any problem at all. A non-beeping computer is a correctly working one. I'm talking about the onboard sound not beeping in the attached headphones/speakers when there is a motherboard 'beep'. The problem is that I used that for some events as a status (e.g. battery running low) and I like the annoying nature of the beep for these events. so it is not a 'speaker' problem but a sound card problem. You should have stated that from the beginning. Probably something muted that should not be muted.
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
Hello, On Sun, 23 Mar 2014, null_ptr wrote: On 22/03/14 23:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 22.03.2014 02:08, schrieb null_ptr: modprobe pcspkr doesn't change anything. It is still silent. I also tried building it in the kernel. On the other hand from what I understand the snd_hda_intel should be doing the beeps when the mainboard does not have a physical speaker on the mainboard and instead beeps through the regular sound device. At least on 3.10.25 I had not build the pcspkr module and the system beeped happily. Now, are we talking about the motherboard beeping through a little builtin speaker that does not work or Are we talking about your onboard sound not beeping in your headphones/your attached speakers when there is a motherboard 'beep'? [..] I'm talking about the onboard sound not beeping in the attached headphones/speakers when there is a motherboard 'beep'. The problem is that I used that for some events as a status (e.g. battery running low) and I like the annoying nature of the beep for these events. Wait. What now? You have (at least) two sound-devices that can beep: a) the beeper on your motherboard in this case, use what I wrote, i.e. pcsp=enable=1 in your kernel commandline and make sure modprobe pcspkr works. The module is not needed in the initrd. b) the onboard-sound-chip via attached speakers/headphones in this case, disable the mobo-beeper (might be default) blacklist pcspkr explicitly, possibly along with with the kernel-parameter pcsp=enable=0 and your normal alsa-driver should take over the task of beeping (snd-pcsp is a different beast). If it does not, your alsa-driver might be buggy as it should take over the beeping. HTH, -dnh, I wanted case a), beeping completely independent from any other audio stuff. And with the program 'beep' (http://www.johnath.com/beep) and/or the snd-pcsp driver, you can use the beeper to do more than the standard beep. -- There is a green, multi-legged creature crawling on your shoulder.
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014, at 18:51, null_ptr wrote: Module for my sound card is running and SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is activated in kernel config. Am I missing something else? Perhaps you need CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR.
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
On 21/03/14 19:54, Francesco Turco wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014, at 18:51, null_ptr wrote: Module for my sound card is running and SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is activated in kernel config. Am I missing something else? Perhaps you need CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR. I tried building with that and it didn't fix it.
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
I can't think of the name of the module, pcspkr IIRC or some such, but it prolly isn't loaded. Modprobe can tell you if it's available load it. On Mar 21, 2014 12:41 PM, Dat G rhan...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/03/14 19:54, Francesco Turco wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014, at 18:51, null_ptr wrote: Module for my sound card is running and SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is activated in kernel config. Am I missing something else? Perhaps you need CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR. I tried building with that and it didn't fix it.
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
On 21/03/14 14:41, Lee wrote: I can't think of the name of the module, pcspkr IIRC or some such, but it prolly isn't loaded. Modprobe can tell you if it's available load it. On Mar 21, 2014 12:41 PM, Dat G rhan...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/03/14 19:54, Francesco Turco wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014, at 18:51, null_ptr wrote: Module for my sound card is running and SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is activated in kernel config. Am I missing something else? Perhaps you need CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR. I tried building with that and it didn't fix it. modprobe pcspkr doesn't change anything. It is still silent. I also tried building it in the kernel. On the other hand from what I understand the snd_hda_intel should be doing the beeps when the mainboard does not have a physical speaker on the mainboard and instead beeps through the regular sound device. At least on 3.10.25 I had not build the pcspkr module and the system beeped happily.
Re: [gentoo-user] No motherboard beep since kernel upgrade
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:51:22 +0100 null_ptr rhan...@gmx.de wrote: Since the last kernel upgrade Which kernel package? From which version to which version? the motherboard beep of my system has gone silent. Can you diff the dmesg as well as `lsmod` output before and after? Module for my sound card is running and SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is activated in kernel config. Am I missing something else? Can you diff the kernel config file before and after? PS: You can use `diff A B | less` to compare file A and B; if you want to share it with us, you can do `diff A B /tmp/AB.diff` or so. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
