Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation sometimes does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions. I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set up as an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages available for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though. The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to the LAN. It runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for the other boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to set that up. Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option. IMAP can be quite heavy on resources on the server-side. I use a quad-core AMD for my server. -- Joost Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on Atom which holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use for the IMAP-Server. I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of users on IMAP. Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. Norman Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 02:10:18 -0700 (PDT), Alan McKinnon wrote: I was interested to read that NASDAQ runs a modified Gentoo and wondered what does an unmodified stock Gentoo look like. Shiny, round, about 5.25 in diameter :) -- Neil Bothwick To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:45:14 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain masochism. I have one of those and even installing from binary packages is painfully slow. I have three Atom machines here, a small server, a netbook and a nettop used as a MythTV frontend, and the only compiling any of them do is for their kernels. -- Neil Bothwick This virus requires Microsoft Windows XP signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Matthew Finkel wrote: Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt This may help. I saw one Atom CPU in the list. http://gentoo.linuxhowtos.org/compiletimeestimator/ It must be pretty slow since it is at about the bottom of the list. The list goes from fastest to slowest. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org mailto:nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation sometimes does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions. I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set up as an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages available for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though. The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to the LAN. It runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for the other boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to set that up. Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option. IMAP can be quite heavy on resources on the server-side. I use a quad-core AMD for my server. -- Joost Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on Atom which holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use for the IMAP-Server. I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of users on IMAP. Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. Norman Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt Atom: genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 * sys-devel/gcc Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 27 seconds. Wed Mar 23 23:01:12 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 1 hour, 10 minutes and 22 seconds. Geode: genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 * sys-devel/gcc Sat Feb 26 19:11:36 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 41 seconds. Fri Mar 25 05:51:21 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 2 seconds. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/18/11 09:50, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:45:14 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain masochism. I have one of those and even installing from binary packages is painfully slow. I have three Atom machines here, a small server, a netbook and a nettop used as a MythTV frontend, and the only compiling any of them do is for their kernels. I am not sitting in front of it watching stuff scroll by and its funktion (Wifi-Accesspoint) is not affected by compiling... Sure it takes a little longer, but why should i care. And compiling on the Atoms is not worth a mention... my pentium m is less snappy.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org mailto:nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation sometimes does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions. I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set up as an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages available for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though. The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to the LAN. It runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for the other boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to set that up. Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option. IMAP can be quite heavy on resources on the server-side. I use a quad-core AMD for my server. -- Joost Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on Atom which holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use for the IMAP-Server. I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of users on IMAP. Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. Norman Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt Atom: genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 * sys-devel/gcc Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 27 seconds. Wed Mar 23 23:01:12 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 1 hour, 10 minutes and 22 seconds. Geode: genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 * sys-devel/gcc Sat Feb 26 19:11:36 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 41 seconds. Fri Mar 25 05:51:21 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 2 seconds. Norman Interesting, thanks! I was interested in a comparison of compile times. I was originally going to ask how long it takes to compile OO/LibreOffice but then figured your system most likely didn't have it. haha And as you said in your other reply, if you rarely have to interact with this system, and compiling doesn't result in significant lag, why not compile it? It'd take a century to emerge an entire feature-full desktop/server build, but as a small embedded system it actually sounds reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew Finkel wrote: Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt This may help. I saw one Atom CPU in the list. http://gentoo.linuxhowtos.org/**compiletimeestimator/http://gentoo.linuxhowtos.org/compiletimeestimator/ It must be pretty slow since it is at about the bottom of the list. The list goes from fastest to slowest. Dale :-) :-) huh, that's a pretty neat site, thanks. A funny thing about this site is that the 'slowest' core listed is a P2 which has an estimated compile time that's twice as fast for gcc as Norman's Geo. His atom is quite snappy though. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:41:57 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain masochism. I have one of those and even installing from binary packages is painfully slow. I have three Atom machines here, a small server, a netbook and a nettop used as a MythTV frontend, and the only compiling any of them do is for their kernels. I am not sitting in front of it watching stuff scroll by and its funktion (Wifi-Accesspoint) is not affected by compiling... Sure it takes a little longer, but why should i care. Most of the time, there's no need. There are times when a package is updated and needs a config update immediately after or you could end up with the new program being called with the old config. Binary installs mean you have a better idea of when that will need to be done. It's not a big issue, but I already have the binary build setup so adding one more host was a simple matter of creating a directory for the chroot and adding the host name to an existing script. How long did the initial install take on the Geode? I installed to the chroot on the build host in the first place then rsynced everything across. -- Neil Bothwick WWW: World Wide Wait signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set up as an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages available for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though. That's interesting. I run a SheevaPlug with Gentoo onboard. It runs at 1.2G and has half a G of memory. I have no trouble compiling gentoo on this little server. It works as a file server, backup server, web server and portage server (distfiles and portage sync for the gentoos on my network). Is ARM more efficient than the intel atom? -- Regards, Gregory.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/18/11 11:08, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:41:57 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain masochism. I have one of those and even installing from binary packages is painfully slow. I have three Atom machines here, a small server, a netbook and a nettop used as a MythTV frontend, and the only compiling any of them do is for their kernels. I am not sitting in front of it watching stuff scroll by and its funktion (Wifi-Accesspoint) is not affected by compiling... Sure it takes a little longer, but why should i care. Most of the time, there's no need. There are times when a package is updated and needs a config update immediately after or you could end up with the new program being called with the old config. Binary installs mean you have a better idea of when that will need to be done. It's not a big issue, but I already have the binary build setup so adding one more host was a simple matter of creating a directory for the chroot and adding the host name to an existing script. How long did the initial install take on the Geode? I installed to the chroot on the build host in the first place then rsynced everything across. Yes, and when i return to that shell some time later i scroll through the package messages and do what needs to be done, followed by a etc-update, revdep-rebuild, depclean and sometimes lafilefixer. I am not saying, i update like fire and forget :-). Everyone should use a setting that one sees fit. That's why we use Gentoo, right? Because we have that choice. If you have a well working setup in place, then it is only right to use it. Can't remember how long it take exactly, but here is the ouput of a whole system rebuild with a kind of funny estimate :-). Shows you all the packages, too. Just wondering myself right now, why there are N and U packages, when emerge -uDN world shows nothing to do... emerge -pe system world | genlop -p These are the pretended packages: (this may take a while; wait...) [ebuild R] sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5-r2 [ebuild R] virtual/libintl-0 [ebuild R] app-arch/xz-utils-5.0.1 [ebuild R] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20110202 [ebuild R] dev-libs/expat-2.0.1-r3 [ebuild R] virtual/libiconv-0 [ebuild R] app-misc/pax-utils-0.2.2 [ebuild R] app-arch/bzip2-1.0.6 [ebuild R] app-misc/mime-types-8 [ebuild R] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.4.1-r1 [ebuild R] app-arch/cpio-2.11 [ebuild R] sys-libs/timezone-data-2011e [ebuild R] sys-fs/sysfsutils-2.1.0 [ebuild R] sys-apps/tcp-wrappers-7.6-r8 [ebuild R] dev-libs/libffi-3.0.9-r2 [ebuild R] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 [ebuild R] sys-apps/which-2.20 [ebuild R] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-10-r1 [ebuild R] sys-devel/automake-wrapper-4 [ebuild R] sys-process/cronbase-0.3.2-r1 [ebuild R] mail-client/mailx-support-20060102-r1 [ebuild R] dev-libs/libnl-1.1-r2 [ebuild R] app-portage/portage-utils-0.3.1 [ebuild R] net-misc/rdate-1.4-r3 [ebuild R] sys-kernel/module-rebuild-0.5 [ebuild R] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.36.1 [ebuild R] virtual/libffi-0 [ebuild R] sys-apps/sandbox-2.4 [ebuild R] sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20110409135728 [ebuild R] sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.16-r1 [ebuild R] sys-devel/m4-1.4.15 [ebuild R] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.7 [ebuild R] virtual/os-headers-0 [ebuild R] dev-libs/gmp-4.3.2 [ebuild R] dev-libs/mpfr-3.0.0_p3 [ebuild R] sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r1 [ebuild R] virtual/init-0 [ebuild R] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.3 [ebuild R] sys-apps/debianutils-3.4.4 [ebuild R] sys-devel/libperl-5.10.1 [ebuild N ] virtual/pam-0 [ebuild R] net-mail/mailbase-1 [ebuild R] virtual/man-0 [ebuild R] sys-apps/man-pages-posix-2003a [ebuild R] app-i18n/man-pages-de-0.5-r1 [ebuild R] sys-apps/man-pages-3.28 [ebuild R] sys-auth/pambase-20101024 [ebuild R] virtual/acl-0 [ebuild R] app-admin/python-updater-0.9 [ebuild R] sys-devel/binutils-config-2-r1 [ebuild R] app-admin/eselect-vi-1.1.7-r1 [ebuild R] virtual/mta-0 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-MIME-Base64-3.08 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.27.03 [ebuild R] app-admin/eselect-ctags-1.13 [ebuild R] dev-util/ctags-5.7 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-IO-Compress-2.024 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-Digest-MD5-2.39 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-libnet-1.220.0-r1 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.36.07 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.17 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-Archive-Tar-1.54 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.22.05 [ebuild R] sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1 [ebuild R] sys-apps/sed-4.2.1 [ebuild R]
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On 18 August 2011 09:23, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel: Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt Atom: genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 * sys-devel/gcc Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 27 seconds. Wed Mar 23 23:01:12 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 1 hour, 10 minutes and 22 seconds. I have an Atom 330 machine which is getting significantly worse build-times than you. What make.conf options are you using? (Or are you using something else to improve build times?) Wed Mar 16 04:49:09 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 2 hours, 56 minutes and 20 seconds. Thu May 5 22:07:36 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4 merge time: 2 hours, 14 minutes and 15 seconds. Fri May 6 00:35:53 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 2 hours, 28 minutes and 17 seconds. Admittedly, my machine runs xbmc, which is a resource hog, and has a fair bit of disk activity. My CFLAGS are: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=core2 -mtune=generic -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse which date to before -march=atom, and having read a performance article suggesting these. I note that the only practical difference between the resultant gcc options is that setting -mtune to core2 adds #define __tune_core2__ 1. I wonder what the practical difference is. echo | gcc -dM -E - -O2 -march=core2 -mtune=generic -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse I suppose, having looked into it this far, I'll merge gcc-4.5 to see what effect -mtune=atom has. (I'm not particularly interested in build times, but whether they're a sign of poor overall performance ... ) JB
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/18/11 12:08, schrieb James Broadhead:
On 18 August 2011 09:23, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote:
Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel:
Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc?
- Matt
Atom:
genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
* sys-devel/gcc
Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
merge time: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 27 seconds.
Wed Mar 23 23:01:12 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
merge time: 1 hour, 10 minutes and 22 seconds.
I have an Atom 330 machine which is getting significantly worse
build-times than you. What make.conf options are you using? (Or are
you using something else to improve build times?)
Wed Mar 16 04:49:09 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
merge time: 2 hours, 56 minutes and 20 seconds.
Thu May 5 22:07:36 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4
merge time: 2 hours, 14 minutes and 15 seconds.
Fri May 6 00:35:53 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
merge time: 2 hours, 28 minutes and 17 seconds.
Admittedly, my machine runs xbmc, which is a resource hog, and has a
fair bit of disk activity.
My CFLAGS are:
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=core2 -mtune=generic -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
-mssse3 -mfpmath=sse
which date to before -march=atom, and having read a performance
article suggesting these. I note that the only practical difference
between the resultant gcc options is that setting -mtune to core2 adds
#define __tune_core2__ 1. I wonder what the practical difference is.
echo | gcc -dM -E - -O2 -march=core2 -mtune=generic
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse
I suppose, having looked into it this far, I'll merge gcc-4.5 to see
what effect -mtune=atom has.
(I'm not particularly interested in build times, but whether they're a
sign of poor overall performance ... )
JB
Well i use an Atom D510, the core features seems to be quite similar to
yours, with the only difference, that D510 has a graphics unit added.
Here is my make.conf... how many threads are you using in gcc?
CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -march=core2 -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
MAKEOPTS=-j5
USE=-X -gtk -gtk2 -qt3 -qt4 -gnome -kde unicode nls -mysql mmx sse sse2
ssse3 acpi hddtemp threads iproute2
LINGUAS=de
AUTOCLEAN=yes
FEATURES=parallel-fetch
Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On 18 August 2011 12:45, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -march=core2 -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse Yes, those work out to the same set as I posted -- the major difference is that I have USE=gtk gcj, which along with the additional load probably accounts for the discrepancy. I also have -j5. JB
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation sometimes does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions. I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set up as an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages available for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though. The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to the LAN. It runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for the other boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to set that up. My laptop runs Gentoo, Fedora or WinXP. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Hi, everybody. On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 09:48:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I seem to be pretty much on my own, here. I use Gentoo on a single desktop computer at home, mainly for developing free software (Emacs). I've configured the PC with two HDDs in RAID-1 (mirrored), and I run logical volume manager. I keep the box aggresively up to date, synching portage almost every day. One of these days, I'll get around to installing Gentoo on a dusty old laptop I've got. -- :wq Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation sometimes does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions. I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set up as an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages available for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though. The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to the LAN. It runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for the other boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to set that up. Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option. IMAP can be quite heavy on resources on the server-side. I use a quad-core AMD for my server. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On 16 August 2011 01:28, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: Linux also offered financial firms the ability to modify the source code to further speed performance, Lameter said. It depends on how daring the exchange is, Lameter said, noting that NASDAQ uses a modified version of the Gentoo Linux distribution. http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street We should mention this somewhere on the Gentoo page on wikipedia.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 17.08.2011 01:24, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd I don't know about the wiki (I didn't use it to install systemd), and as I said, I think it works out-of-the-box now, and you can safely go back to OpenRC if you want to. Installed it in a VM now, and followed the wiki ... I don't even get a console so far, some strange timeouts somewhere. getty@tty1.service depends on something I can't see (no way to scroll up) ... still some fiddling needed here. S
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
I use it on my webserver, my Desktop and quite new on the Desktop of my mother. I had there Xubuntu before but that was a pain in the rear-end to administrate with all that fiddly automatisms. Now Gentoo does exactly as told and everyone is happy. The next goal is to convert the laptop of my Girlfriend, it runs Windows 7 for now. Greetings Sebastian Beßler signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation sometimes does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions. I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set up as an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages available for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though. The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to the LAN. It runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for the other boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to set that up. Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option. IMAP can be quite heavy on resources on the server-side. I use a quad-core AMD for my server. -- Joost Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on Atom which holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use for the IMAP-Server. I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of users on IMAP. Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. Norman
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How does everybody here use Gentoo? 2 personal desktop machines (one stand-by) + 1 netbook. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 09:48:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? 1) 2 desktop PC's where the 2nd one is a hot backup of the first. 2) A 14 notebook 3) A basic HTPC machine hooked up to TV and Silicon Dust HDHomerun dual-tuner -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:48:30 PM Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? 1 Desktop 1 Netbook (For holiday and during travel) 1 home server (running Xen with virtualized Gentoo instances) Server provides DNS, DHCP, Proxy, website, email and groupware (calendar, addressbook) services. I had a HTPC as well, but I discommissioned it as it was too noisy. Might build a new one at a later point, but for now the WD TV-Live I've got does what I want it to do. Currently planned: 1 more desktop 1 additional server for testing purposes / backup of primary server The desktop will likely have to wait till next year at this point. -- Joost
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I use it on all of my hardware (except the smartphone)... That includes my server (Xeon, 64bit, nginx, mariadb, mongodb, postfix, ...), my pc at home (Core2, 64Bit, kde 4.7), the netbook (32bit, atom, kde 4.7), my file-server (atom, 64bit, samba)... gentoo is the system of choice on every new hardware i bought or will buy...
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1 Desktop 1 Netbook (For holiday and during travel) 1 home server (running Xen with virtualized Gentoo instances) i own similar combination (the server is actually head/mouseless desktop powered by core i7 and equipped with 24gb of ram allowing to concurrently run number of gentoo and freebsd pv-machines); also renting a small gentoo powered vps running as mail/list/file server for personal use at work have no gentooine hardware :) -- victor
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On Mon 15 August 2011 21:48:30 Michael Mol did opine thusly: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wal l-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. All my personal machines have run gentoo for 6 or more years now plus my dev VMs. At work, it's encouraged for the dev environments too. I was interested to read that NASDAQ runs a modified Gentoo and wondered what does an unmodified stock Gentoo look like. Then I realised I was being silly, there's no such thing :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 02:10:18 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon 15 August 2011 21:48:30 Michael Mol did opine thusly: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wal l-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. All my personal machines have run gentoo for 6 or more years now plus my dev VMs. At work, it's encouraged for the dev environments too. I was interested to read that NASDAQ runs a modified Gentoo and wondered what does an unmodified stock Gentoo look like. Then I realised I was being silly, there's no such thing :-) Wouldn't that be what someone ends with after following the install guide? In other words, stage3? -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Tue 16 August 2011 11:15:21 Joost Roeleveld did opine thusly: On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 02:10:18 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon 15 August 2011 21:48:30 Michael Mol did opine thusly: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mast ered-wal l-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. All my personal machines have run gentoo for 6 or more years now plus my dev VMs. At work, it's encouraged for the dev environments too. I was interested to read that NASDAQ runs a modified Gentoo and wondered what does an unmodified stock Gentoo look like. Then I realised I was being silly, there's no such thing :-) Wouldn't that be what someone ends with after following the install guide? In other words, stage3? Well I'm being tongue-in-cheek :-) We all modify Gentoo to our own tastes, some a little some a lot. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
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On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:30:03 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tue 16 August 2011 11:15:21 Joost Roeleveld did opine thusly: On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 02:10:18 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon 15 August 2011 21:48:30 Michael Mol did opine thusly: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mast ered-wal l-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. All my personal machines have run gentoo for 6 or more years now plus my dev VMs. At work, it's encouraged for the dev environments too. I was interested to read that NASDAQ runs a modified Gentoo and wondered what does an unmodified stock Gentoo look like. Then I realised I was being silly, there's no such thing :-) Wouldn't that be what someone ends with after following the install guide? In other words, stage3? Well I'm being tongue-in-cheek :-) So was I, how much use is a stage3 install? We all modify Gentoo to our own tastes, some a little some a lot. I tend to change what I want changing, not sure if that is classed as a little or a lot. I think I'd be somewhere in the middle of those 2 extremes ;) -- Joost PS. I am thankfull for finding Gentoo, or I'd have ended up with LFS...
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Am Montag, 15. August 2011, 21:48:30 schrieb Michael Mol: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. I use it on my desktops (currently 3 machines, varying over time), my laptop and in my (home-)studio as DAW. Last one is probably my most interesting setup, but even this one is not interesting at all :) Michael
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Survey answer Desktop and laptop gentoo. Both for personal use. Desktop hosts webserver for pictures and stuff (keeps the mrs happy) inc samba, kvm, etc Been using for 4 years and still haven't got a clue but mailing list has been great for tips and advice and sanity. Dual boot with windows 7 but only for games. How sad --Original Message-- From: Adam Carter To: Gentoo ReplyTo: Gentoo Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered Sent: 16 Aug 2011 04:37 This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? 1. Server at friends house on fixed IP ADSL2 annex M for DNS, SMTP+IMAP mail, web+wiki, and a second sshd on port 443, so i can get to it from work :). 2. Home laptop, which runs vmware for Windows 7, XP, SecurePlatform etc 3. Home proxy running squid in interception mode with gzip ecap, DNS caching, DHCP, hostapd on ADSL2 4. VMware guest on work laptop Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on O2
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 16:15, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 02:10:18 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: I was interested to read that NASDAQ runs a modified Gentoo and wondered what does an unmodified stock Gentoo look like. Then I realised I was being silly, there's no such thing :-) Wouldn't that be what someone ends with after following the install guide? In other words, stage3? Eh? After following the install guide, you end up with stage4! unmodified Gentoo is stage3 :-D Rgds, -- FdS Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
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* Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com [110815 21:21]: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. -- :wq I have laptops, desktops, and servers. The servers are nameservers, mail servers, web servers, file servers, and SPAM filtering servers. I also use Gentoo in VMs for network testing at work and have turned my boss onto Gentoo as well. Todd
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On 01/-10/37 11:59, Michael Mol wrote: This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I use gentoo on my laptop (1.6 GHz core2duo, 4GB RAM), desktop (3 GHz QX9650, 8GB RAM), home file server (2.5GHz core2duo), htpc (another core2duo and 2GB RAM), and various servers (one's a dual P3 1.1GHz box that's getting retired) at work, both production and testing. Actually, I'll be moving the servers at work onto ESXi soon. They've all served me well. Dan
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? Gentoo at home as my only OS since 2003. Previously I used DOS in the 80's and OS/2 in the 90's, with a little Slackware dual-booting as my first taste of Linux in the olden-days. I use it at home for web/email/programming/gaming/photo and video editing/media server/etc. Gentoo on my laptop since 2004. My first amd64 install, and my first (and last) experience with ati-drivers. :) A few months ago I set up a virtual Gentoo server (at vr.org) which hosts my DNS server, email, http server, etc. So far that has been working great and I'm learning a lot. I'm going to migrate my domains to it from other hosting providers. I must establish a proper backup routine before I do that, though.
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 22:48, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I have 1 server running Gentoo for about 4 years, 2 workstations and 2 more machines performing different tasks. All this machines at work. At home I haven't changed to Linux yet... Don't think I'll ever will, too many variables (like the fiance, for instance). The most intersting case was an old Pentium 100 MHz, 48MB of RAM that was running Gentoo for about 2 years at work before retiring, serving HTTP, FTP, MySQL, PHP and a long uptime. Took me a while to install (lets say a month) cause of the long compile times and some tech difficulties (like for instance booting an LiveCD from such an old machine). It was fun. I also had Gentoo for an year in my old netbook (Asus EEE 900). -- Daniel da Veiga
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I have one laptop, three desktops (two at my university), one HTPC (with an ION Zotac mobo), and 2 servers, for very different purposes each. The servers are in production. Some years ago I administered the desktop machines in my work: Ten gentoo boxen compiling in parallel with distcc; that was awesome. My most interesting setup by far is the HTPC, I guess: it boots really quickly (thanks to systemd), and it has a lot of little modifications so I don't need to ssh into it to do anything: Everything is done through the remote control. In all my computers (i.e., not the two desktops at uni, since they are not mine) I use systemd (which thankfully has entered the portage tree), and in my desktop and laptop I use GNOME 3 from the GNOME overlay. It all works basically flawless. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
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Am 16.08.2011 03:48, schrieb Michael Mol: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. - my notebook - my dad's netbook (8 GB disk + 512 MB RAM, minimal KDE still works with =250MB RAM usage) - my dad's PC - a virtual private server. Primarily acts as an OpenVPN server connecting the machines listed above. Also runs a bug tracker (Redmine) and a Hudson build server. I'm currently planning to get some experience in setting up minimal appliance-like servers based on Gentoo. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Am 16.08.2011 19:06, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In all my computers (i.e., not the two desktops at uni, since they are not mine) I use systemd (which thankfully has entered the portage tree) systemd sounds like a nice-to-have project for me. Which howto did you follow, what do you recommend me to read to start using it (with gentoo, sure) ? Thanks, Stefan
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 16.08.2011 19:06, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In all my computers (i.e., not the two desktops at uni, since they are not mine) I use systemd (which thankfully has entered the portage tree) systemd sounds like a nice-to-have project for me. Which howto did you follow, what do you recommend me to read to start using it (with gentoo, sure) ? I became afraid after reading this wiki page, especially the part about removing openrc and making your own init.d and conf.d entries: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd :)
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Am 16.08.2011 23:06, schrieb Paul Hartman: I became afraid after reading this wiki page, especially the part about removing openrc and making your own init.d and conf.d entries: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd :) I read through parts of http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html now ... (coming from your mentioned url) Yeah, sounds scary. I might play with this inside a VM some rainy day ... using suspend-to-ram and SSDs both in thinkpad and desktop, so boot-times are OK and not a problem. So this doesn't really motivate me to take these risks ;-) Stefan
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 16.08.2011 19:06, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In all my computers (i.e., not the two desktops at uni, since they are not mine) I use systemd (which thankfully has entered the portage tree) systemd sounds like a nice-to-have project for me. It certainly was for me. Which howto did you follow, what do you recommend me to read to start using it (with gentoo, sure) ? I think it mostly works out-of-the-box right now, you unmask whatever needs unmasking and keyword whatever needs keywording, emerge it, and put init=/bin/systemd in grub or lilo and that's it. I *think*, I could be wrong. I think Michał (Górny) did a good job keeping the introduction of systemd into the portage tree as uninrusive as possible, so you can go back to OpenRC whenever you want. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 16.08.2011 19:06, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In all my computers (i.e., not the two desktops at uni, since they are not mine) I use systemd (which thankfully has entered the portage tree) systemd sounds like a nice-to-have project for me. Which howto did you follow, what do you recommend me to read to start using it (with gentoo, sure) ? I became afraid after reading this wiki page, especially the part about removing openrc and making your own init.d and conf.d entries: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd I don't know about the wiki (I didn't use it to install systemd), and as I said, I think it works out-of-the-box now, and you can safely go back to OpenRC if you want to. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 16.08.2011 23:06, schrieb Paul Hartman: I became afraid after reading this wiki page, especially the part about removing openrc and making your own init.d and conf.d entries: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd :) I read through parts of http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html now ... (coming from your mentioned url) Yeah, sounds scary. I might play with this inside a VM some rainy day ... using suspend-to-ram and SSDs both in thinkpad and desktop, so boot-times are OK and not a problem. So this doesn't really motivate me to take these risks ;-) The boot-times are a nice consequence of systemd, but certainly not the only reason to use it. I've been using it for several months, and IMHO it's far superior than OpenRC, which anyways is a fine init system. But of course, if you're happy with OpenRC and nothing interest you from systemd, there is no reason to change. For me, the boot-times and the fact that most of the services I use have a .service unit file written by the authors of the package in question is enough for me. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
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Am 08/16/11 03:48, schrieb Michael Mol: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. My usecases for Gentoo are desktop / laptop, fileserver, router, a kvm guest on my rootserver and an AMD Geode based WLAN-Accesspoint. So i am running Gentoo on 6 of my 7 systems plus the kvm guest. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. -- :wq
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Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carteradamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. Desktop here. Though I do have one box that could be considered a server of sorts since it has no mouse/keyboard and no monitor either. Well, most servers don't have those. ;-) You really need a website that has this question and just post a linky here and on the forums. Even then tho, you won't get all Gentoo users. Only the chatterboxes will reply here too. lol Mostly anyway. Dale :-) :-)
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That is indeed cool. And a welcome news for me who's trying to champion Gentoo in my company which, as it happens, is a stockbrokerage house. One of my country's largest, even :) Rgds, On 2011-08-16, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: Linux also offered financial firms the ability to modify the source code to further speed performance, Lameter said. It depends on how daring the exchange is, Lameter said, noting that NASDAQ uses a modified version of the Gentoo Linux distribution. http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/
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To answer your survey: All my gentoo VMs are in production as servers. Non-glorious but essential ones such as mail servers, DNS servers, proxy servers, and also a couple of firewalls. I'm currently in the process of phasing out Ubuntu servers from my company, leaving just one for running Axigen. I personally don't think Gentoo is suitable for the (l)users in my company; there's just too much 'moving parts' that will make support's life a hellish experience. Currently I am planning to explore (along with Joost and hopefully someone from the Xen herd will hear and help) a Gentoo-based Xen Platform. An ideal match, if you ask me, since (theoretically) nothing can come close to the performance of a Gentoo Dom0. Rgds, On 2011-08-16, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. -- :wq -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/
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I use it for my laptop, desktop/HTPC. firewall/router, distfiles server and NFS boot server. The distfiles and NFS boot servers are actually VMs due to having to downsize PC space on my desk. (my wife had a fit about 6 PCs on my desk running constantly.) James Wall
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This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? 1. Server at friends house on fixed IP ADSL2 annex M for DNS, SMTP+IMAP mail, web+wiki, and a second sshd on port 443, so i can get to it from work :). 2. Home laptop, which runs vmware for Windows 7, XP, SecurePlatform etc 3. Home proxy running squid in interception mode with gzip ecap, DNS caching, DHCP, hostapd on ADSL2 4. VMware guest on work laptop
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. -- :wq Here I have it on my laptop, desktop, build server, build binary packages server, web server, backup servers, file servers and (hopefully) a media server/htpc soon. And Adam, nice find. -- Matthew Finkel
