Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 06:17, Bryan Whitehead wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Ralph Slooten wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya list, Just need some opinions here, and am not looking for a raving flame-war regarding which file system is better etc ;-) ~ Oh and please excuse the long mail, but I need explain my situation clearly to avoid confusion. [snip] I've had this happen to me a number of times... I'm now a happy XFS user. :) /flamestart ;) No flamestart, but . . . I have had the opposite experience: reiserfs surviving happily multiple lockups due to faulty memory with no fs corruption. Installed /usr on an xfs (laptop) and after a couple of hard reboots it was borked! This has happened a number of times to the extent that I became convinced reiserfs is the preferred fs for me. Mind you I am still running /usr on xfs. ;-) Just my 2c's. -- Regards, Mick pgp0qy1sFlaDI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 12:32 +0200, Ralph Slooten wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya list, Just need some opinions here, and am not looking for a raving flame-war regarding which file system is better etc ;-) ~ Oh and please excuse the long mail, but I need explain my situation clearly to avoid confusion. [snip] What gives? I don't want to use ext2 or ext3, and I have for a couple of years now relied on reiserfs on all my systems, but what could be the problem here? Why did reiserfs seem to mess up like this, and why after formatting it did I get the same errors again? It looks like you have a problem with some reiser-related binary that is not on the / partition. There is obviously nothing wrong with hda3 as ext3 works on it. Which partition hosts the /lib and /sbin directories? Unfortunately you seem to have been a victim of the off button being hit at exactly the right moment to cause maximum difficulty :-( If all else fails you could take the long route: emerge -e system emerge -s world A drastic measure, but it would rebuild everything and almost certainly fix the problem. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
Alan McKinnon wrote: It looks like you have a problem with some reiser-related binary that is not on the / partition. There is obviously nothing wrong with hda3 as ext3 works on it. Which partition hosts the /lib and /sbin directories? Both are on the same partition too. This goes for everything except for /boot and /home. The rest is all on / (/dev/hda3). Unfortunately you seem to have been a victim of the off button being hit at exactly the right moment to cause maximum difficulty :-( I fear this too yes, however after a re-format (`mkreiserfs /dev/hda3`) off the boot-cd and restore of filesystem from a backup this should have been solved. If the backup was damaged, I would have gotten errors during the initial create, the restore, and also from the current ext2 / partition ~ but I got no errors at all. If all else fails you could take the long route: emerge -e system emerge -s world A drastic measure, but it would rebuild everything and almost certainly fix the problem. I fear not actually, as I think this problem is reiserfs-related, and has to do with a corrupted journal or something, but not sure though. What is the best way to *really* format a drive before recreating a journalled filesystem (reiserfs) so that I really know it's not using an old corrupt one or something? I have other working partitions on that drive so an fdisk is not possible: ~ `cat /dev/zero /dev/hda3` ? -- Ralph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
On 7/17/06, Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the best way to *really* format a drive before recreating a journalled filesystem (reiserfs) so that I really know it's not using an old corrupt one or something? I have other working partitions on that drive so an fdisk is not possible: ~ `cat /dev/zero /dev/hda3` ? I always managed to restore my partition after mkfs.reiserfs and fsck.resierfs --rebuild-tree -S. It should (at least I think so) clear the tree and the journal. -- Pozdrawiam Janusz YANOUSHek Bossy gg# 791964 tlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
On 17/07/06, Janusz Bossy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always managed to restore my partition after mkfs.reiserfs and fsck.resierfs --rebuild-tree -S. It should (at least I think so) clear the tree and the journal. I agree that this *should* fix it, but with my first attempts it found a couple of thousand errors, apparently fixed them, until I ran it again where it kept finding the same errors. This was of course with an already-restored backup. I will try your way when the filesystem is still empty. Nice tip though, thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
On 7/17/06, Ralph Slooten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that this *should* fix it, but with my first attempts it found a couple of thousand errors, apparently fixed them, until I ran it again where it kept finding the same errors. This was of course with an already-restored backup. IIRC there's also an options to fsck.reiserfs that makes it repair errors because by default it only show what it has found. Look into the man page for more detail (I'm currently at work using Windows). -- Pozdrawiam Janusz YANOUSHek Bossy gg# 791964 tlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
On 17/07/06, Janusz Bossy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC there's also an options to fsck.reiserfs that makes it repair errors because by default it only show what it has found. Look into the man page for more detail (I'm currently at work using Windows). --fix-fixable Yes, I had done this, however each time I ran it it found 2 problems and supposedly fixed them .. that is until I ran it again where it found the same two errors again ... again and again ;-) I will (when I get home this evening): a) format the current ext2 as reiserfs and reboot b) Rebuild tree (--rebuild-tree -S) with an empty partition c) run a scan (--fix-fixable) d) Restore files from backup e) run the scan again (--fix-fixable) f) reboot and hope If this doesn't solve the problem then I have no idea Does anyone foresee problems doing this, or other things I should check too while at it? Thanks Ralph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:23:12 +0200, Ralph Slooten wrote: If this doesn't solve the problem then I have no idea Does anyone foresee problems doing this, or other things I should check too while at it? Install and run smartmontools, it could be a drive on the way out. -- Neil Bothwick There's no place like ~ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
On 17/07/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Install and run smartmontools, it could be a drive on the way out. Nice tip .. thanks. I have this on my servers, but not (yet) on workstation. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs meltdown
On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Ralph Slooten wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya list, Just need some opinions here, and am not looking for a raving flame-war regarding which file system is better etc ;-) ~ Oh and please excuse the long mail, but I need explain my situation clearly to avoid confusion. [snip] I've had this happen to me a number of times... I'm now a happy XFS user. :) /flamestart ;) -- Bryan Whitehead Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
