Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
On Saturday 15 September 2007, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > At Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:56:32 +0100 Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As it happens I noticed that my TV out also stopped working recently. > > However, I run ATI not nvidia. I blamed the latest xorg-server for it > > and left it at that. When I run xrandr, just like you, I only see the > > laptop's screen: > > == > > $ xrandr > > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 175, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768 > > default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm > >1024x768 60.0* > >320x17560.0 > >320x20060.0 > >360x20060.0 > >320x24060.0 > >400x30060.0 > >512x38460.0 > >832x62460.0 > > == > > > > xrandr --output --auto doesn't change things and xrandr --output TV --on > > brings up the --help page. > > > > Anyone else noticed this & found a fix? > > Sounds like the server doesn't implement RandR version 1.2 > > What does xrandr -v say. For me it is > Server reports RandR version 1.2 Same here. > If you don't have 1.2 you won't have the --output stuff. > > Also --on doesn't exist even in 1.2. Sure, but after trying --auto I started getting desperate to get this TV Out working again, especially as the wife was waiting to watch a movie . . . (tut, tut!) > I found man xrandr helpful. Thanks. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
> Sounds like the server doesn't implement RandR version 1.2 > > What does xrandr -v say. For me it is > Server reports RandR version 1.2 > > If you don't have 1.2 you won't have the --output stuff. > > Also --on doesn't exist even in 1.2. > > I found man xrandr helpful. Randr 1.2 was introduced in xorg 7.3 Xrandr -v reports version 1.2 here when i have xorg-server 1.3 (which comes with xorg 7.2) installed, but tv-out is not working! Maybe we have to wait for xorg 7.3 with xorg-server 1.4 to become stable! Unfortunately there are currently no nvidia drivers which are working with xorg 7.4 so we have to wait for a compatible release too. Although there seems to be an -ignoreABI switch for the nvidia drivers so they will work with xorg-server 1.4, but you have o disable the composite extension. Regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
At Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:56:32 +0100 Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As it happens I noticed that my TV out also stopped working recently. > However, I run ATI not nvidia. I blamed the latest xorg-server for it and > left it at that. When I run xrandr, just like you, I only see the laptop's > screen: > == > $ xrandr > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 175, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768 > default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm >1024x768 60.0* >320x17560.0 >320x20060.0 >360x20060.0 >320x24060.0 >400x30060.0 >512x38460.0 >832x62460.0 > == > > xrandr --output --auto doesn't change things and xrandr --output TV --on > brings up the --help page. > > Anyone else noticed this & found a fix? Sounds like the server doesn't implement RandR version 1.2 What does xrandr -v say. For me it is Server reports RandR version 1.2 If you don't have 1.2 you won't have the --output stuff. Also --on doesn't exist even in 1.2. I found man xrandr helpful. allan gottlieb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
> As it happens I noticed that my TV out also stopped working recently. > However, I run ATI not nvidia. I blamed the latest xorg-server for it and > left it at that. When I run xrandr, just like you, I only see the laptop's > screen: > == > $ xrandr > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 175, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768 > default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm >1024x768 60.0* >320x17560.0 >320x20060.0 >360x20060.0 >320x24060.0 >400x30060.0 >512x38460.0 >832x62460.0 > == > > xrandr --output --auto doesn't change things and xrandr --output TV --on > brings up the --help page. > > Anyone else noticed this & found a fix? I also get the same xrandr output. Maybe it is not a problem with the ati or nvidia drivers. I also thought this must be a bug in xorg-server, as it happened after upgrading to version 1.3. I masked to xorg-server-1.3 and downgraded to xorg-server-1.2 which fixes ths problem for me. This is just a temporary solution. I hope this will be fixed in future versions, may it be xorg-server or the proprietary drivers of nvidia or ati. Regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
On Tuesday 11 September 2007, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > > Since you are describing a TV out it might be your tertiary screen. > > When I type xrandr with no arguments I get > > > > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1920 x 1920 > > VGA connected 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 0mm x 0mm > >1920x1440 60.0 > >1600x1200 60.0* > >1280x960 60.0 > > LVDS connected (normal left inverted right) > >1680x1050 60.0 + > >1024x768 60.0 > >800x60060.3 > >640x48059.9 > > TV disconnected (normal left inverted right) > > > > VGA is what I would call the "secondary" (for me it is an external > > monitor, I believe it is always the monitor attached via the VGA or > > DVI output, LVDS is the screen on the > > laptop. Presumably TV is the signal to drive a TV (I never used > > mine). > > I don't know wheather the TV is secondary or tertiary, when i type > xrandr with no options i just get the output of my primary monitor, as > randr is not supported. I am not exactly sure which output i get as i > have no access to my box at the moment, but i will check this. > > > If you type > > > >xrandr --output TV --off > > > > does it stop driving the TV? That is what the manual suggests will > > happen. If not than it seems the nvidia driver isn't supporting randr > > 1.2. Perhaps that was what was meant by "wont fix", nvidia bug. > > I guess a fix for this from nvidia will take ages as usually, is > anybody out there who got tv-out working with the opensource driver > from xorg with nvidia? Or do we have to wait for nouveau, mabe it does > a better job! As it happens I noticed that my TV out also stopped working recently. However, I run ATI not nvidia. I blamed the latest xorg-server for it and left it at that. When I run xrandr, just like you, I only see the laptop's screen: == $ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 175, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768 default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1024x768 60.0* 320x17560.0 320x20060.0 360x20060.0 320x24060.0 400x30060.0 512x38460.0 832x62460.0 == xrandr --output --auto doesn't change things and xrandr --output TV --on brings up the --help page. Anyone else noticed this & found a fix? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
> Since you are describing a TV out it might be your tertiary screen. > When I type xrandr with no arguments I get > > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1920 x 1920 > VGA connected 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 0mm x 0mm >1920x1440 60.0 >1600x1200 60.0* >1280x960 60.0 > LVDS connected (normal left inverted right) >1680x1050 60.0 + >1024x768 60.0 >800x60060.3 >640x48059.9 > TV disconnected (normal left inverted right) > > VGA is what I would call the "secondary" (for me it is an external > monitor, I believe it is always the monitor attached via the VGA or > DVI output, LVDS is the screen on the > laptop. Presumably TV is the signal to drive a TV (I never used > mine). I don't know wheather the TV is secondary or tertiary, when i type xrandr with no options i just get the output of my primary monitor, as randr is not supported. I am not exactly sure which output i get as i have no access to my box at the moment, but i will check this. > If you type > >xrandr --output TV --off > > does it stop driving the TV? That is what the manual suggests will > happen. If not than it seems the nvidia driver isn't supporting randr > 1.2. Perhaps that was what was meant by "wont fix", nvidia bug. I guess a fix for this from nvidia will take ages as usually, is anybody out there who got tv-out working with the opensource driver from xorg with nvidia? Or do we have to wait for nouveau, mabe it does a better job! Regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
At Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:05:26 +0200 Daniel Pielmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have tested xrandr but it is useless for me! I tried various things > but neither of them seem to have any effect on my secondary screen. Since you are describing a TV out it might be your tertiary screen. When I type xrandr with no arguments I get Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1920 x 1920 VGA connected 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 0mm x 0mm 1920x1440 60.0 1600x1200 60.0* 1280x960 60.0 LVDS connected (normal left inverted right) 1680x1050 60.0 + 1024x768 60.0 800x60060.3 640x48059.9 TV disconnected (normal left inverted right) VGA is what I would call the "secondary" (for me it is an external monitor, I believe it is always the monitor attached via the VGA or DVI output, LVDS is the screen on the laptop. Presumably TV is the signal to drive a TV (I never used mine). If you type xrandr --output TV --off does it stop driving the TV? That is what the manual suggests will happen. If not than it seems the nvidia driver isn't supporting randr 1.2. Perhaps that was what was meant by "wont fix", nvidia bug. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
I found a bug at archlinux [1] which is describing my problem. There are two pictures attached. I have exactly the same problem. This bug was closed as wont fix because it should be a nvidia problem. This is possible, but i don't think so as the upgrade of xorg-server package obviously caused this. [1] http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/7346 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
Allan Gottlieb schrieb: > At Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:24:59 +0200 Daniel Pielmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Thanks for your answer, i will try if i can get it working like this >> but randr doesn't seem to work on the secondary device. I have heard >> that nvidia cards doesn't support randr 1.2 so i will give it a try >> with randr disabled in my configuration. > > I don't have nvidia so can't comment (I810) > >> One thing is that i want the two screens (where i can move between >> with the mouse) avaialable not only one. > > I would guess randr supports that since it does have offsets (--pos) > > allan It looks like i have got my hopes up to soon. Though the screen is displayed properly and even the background image fits well, now one problem appeared i did not recognize before. I use the TV only for watching movies, but when i set my media player (xineui, mplayer or vlc doesn't matter) to fullscreen mode it is set to the size of the primary monitor. What has changed here, i am thinking of downgrading the xorg-server but i don't think this will get better with version 1.4. Any advices how to get this working again! Regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
>> Thanks for your answer, i will try if i can get it working like this >> but randr doesn't seem to work on the secondary device. I have heard >> that nvidia cards doesn't support randr 1.2 so i will give it a try >> with randr disabled in my configuration. > > I don't have nvidia so can't comment (I810) > >> One thing is that i want the two screens (where i can move between >> with the mouse) avaialable not only one. > > I would guess randr supports that since it does have offsets (--pos) Hi Allan, thanks for your efforts. Just an update, i have found a temporary solution, which works until the next restart. When i launch the "Nvidia X Server Settings" under "X Server Display Configuration". There is a button "Detect devices". When the external TV is connected and i hit this button the screen is updated and displayed as usual. So all is fine until the next boot. Then i have do do this again. At least there is hope. Maybe there is a configuration option to make it permanently. Regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
At Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:24:59 +0200 Daniel Pielmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your answer, i will try if i can get it working like this > but randr doesn't seem to work on the secondary device. I have heard > that nvidia cards doesn't support randr 1.2 so i will give it a try > with randr disabled in my configuration. I don't have nvidia so can't comment (I810) > One thing is that i want the two screens (where i can move between > with the mouse) avaialable not only one. I would guess randr supports that since it does have offsets (--pos) allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
I have tested xrandr but it is useless for me! I tried various things but neither of them seem to have any effect on my secondary screen. I can only change the configuration of my primary monitor. Disabling randr in xorg conf has no effect too. Does anybody know what changes have to be done in the xorg configuration to get it working again! Unfortunately there is documentation at http://www.x.org/wiki/. The man pages of randr and xorg.conf also give no hints. At least i have found nothing until now. Regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
> Now my ~/bin/Xinitialize begins > > #!/bin/sh > sleep 2 > > if xrandr | grep "VGA connected" ; then > xrandr --verbose --output VGA --mode 1600x1200 --output LVDS --off > else > xrandr --verbose --output VGA --off --output LVDS --mode 1680x1050 > fi > xset s reset# above seems to blank the screen > sleep 3 > > This sets 1600x1200 and turns off the laptop screen when the ext > monitor is in. It sets 1680x1050 and turns off driving the external > monitor connector (which may well be a useless step) when there is no > ext monitor connected. Thanks for your answer, i will try if i can get it working like this but randr doesn't seem to work on the secondary device. I have heard that nvidia cards doesn't support randr 1.2 so i will give it a try with randr disabled in my configuration. One thing is that i want the two screens (where i can move between with the mouse) avaialable not only one. I would also prefer a solution which works with the xorg configuration file. Regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
At Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:33:35 +0200 Daniel Pielmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the update to xorg-server-1.3 broke my dual-screen setup. It creates a > virtual screen size with the same size of the primary monitor for the > second monitor which is my TV. So i can only reach a zone with 800x600 > on the second device, even scrolling within the virtual screen is > impossible. I want 1280x1024 for the primary and 800x600 for the > secondary Monitor which displays the complete desktop on any screen. I also had breakage. I have an 1680x1050 laptop and a 1600x1200 external monitor. When I have the monitor connected, it is all I use. When I don't have the monitor connected, I naturally use the laptop screen. I will give my fix below, but to understand it, I think it is helpful to know what I did previously. Previously, when I went into X (gnome) I have a shell script (~/bin/Xinitialize) run by gnome-session that included xrandr -s 2(the 2 is from memory and might be wrong) this worked because when I had the ext monitor in I made sure to do fn-f8 before the system went into X. This insured that X came up on the monitor and size #2 was it turns out 1600x1200 (thank you 915resolution, for enabling 1600x120 all together). When the ext monitor was not in, by dumb luck, size number 2 was 1680x1050 so it all worked. With the new server, the dumb luck disappeared, but a better xrandr appeared to take its place (the real improvement is that the server supports 1.2 RandR). Now my ~/bin/Xinitialize begins #!/bin/sh sleep 2 if xrandr | grep "VGA connected" ; then xrandr --verbose --output VGA --mode 1600x1200 --output LVDS --off else xrandr --verbose --output VGA --off --output LVDS --mode 1680x1050 fi xset s reset# above seems to blank the screen sleep 3 This sets 1600x1200 and turns off the laptop screen when the ext monitor is in. It sets 1680x1050 and turns off driving the external monitor connector (which may well be a useless step) when there is no ext monitor connected. Perhaps something similar will help you. Good luck, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
