Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
Hi Richard, The above is assuming that you really need/want Emulate3Buttons for the stick and trackpad. Otherwise, you can get by with a single InputDevice section set to /dev/input/mice. thanks for all your efforts, it's much appreciated. I'll try it out later this evening when I'm back. I will post if it helped. Thanks a lot best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore - Solved
Hi Richard, I couldn't resist to try it out immediately, so... Ah, I see now. Because you don't have USB mouse in your layout. You can have many InputDevice sections, but only those listed in ServerLayout are used: Section ServerLayout Identifier XFree86 Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDevice Keyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDevice PS/2 Mouse CorePointer # Serial Mouse not detected # USB Mouse not detected ...argh, that simple, I'm ashamed. Works perfectly. Thanks a lot for your great help! Thanks and cheers, ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
I've just moved from XFree86 to xorg and updated my KDE and now my wheel mouse doesn't scroll anymore. I'm using the same mouse lines in xorg.conf that I used in Xfree86.conf, but I can't get it to work. It must be something I just don't see. Any ideas? exactly the same here. I have tried several lines, even the lines that work for a friend. Maybe it's a hardware related thing? I tried xev and I get events for all mouse actions except for moving the wheel. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
So, I guess this shows that the scroll wheel is sending a signal. I have no idea if it's getting to the right place the problem is that not many people understand the hidden ways of keyboard and mouse events from the hardware through the kernel to the console or even X. Writing a valid and properly designed xorg.conf is sort of alchemy (not only concerning mouse issues). But anyway, we have to deal with it. I do not depend on the mouse wheel so I decided to ignore this issue, I already spend enough time on my computer ;-) . But anyway it's a pity that it did work with X and it doesn't work with x.org. xev doesn't show any event, but when I do a cat /dev/input/mice and move the wheel, at least the cursor in the shell moves. This doesn't mean that there are *valid* events coming in, but at least there *are* events coming in. The same happens for /dev/input/mouse0, while mouse1 and mouse2 belong to my trackstick and the touchpad. /dev/input/mice only seems to collect the events of all mice. Assumed the incoming events are valid, then it's likely that we only need to figure out which protocol needs to be set in the xorg.conf. I already tried some by trial and error, but maybe a systematic search will help. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On 11/29/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'm glad that I'm not alone Christoph. Like you, xev shows no activity for the wheel. As far as it's being a hardware related thing, unless 3 mice have died of the same dreaded disease, it's not hardware. Of the 3 I've tried 2 are logitech trackballs (USB) and the 3rd is a no-name intellimouse (PS/2). I'm at a loss Please don't top-post. Did you try the settings I mentioned previously? (using /dev/input/mice, ExplorerPS/2, and the Buttons option?) If so, and you still have the same problem, please post the relevant lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On 11/29/05, Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the problem is that not many people understand the hidden ways of keyboard and mouse events from the hardware through the kernel to the console or even X. Writing a valid and properly designed xorg.conf is sort of alchemy (not only concerning mouse issues). Please post the device section of your xorg.conf, and the relevant lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 04:29 pm, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to write: On 11/29/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I'm glad that I'm not alone Christoph. Like you, xev shows no activity for the wheel. As far as it's being a hardware related thing, unless 3 mice have died of the same dreaded disease, it's not hardware. Of the 3 I've tried 2 are logitech trackballs (USB) and the 3rd is a no-name intellimouse (PS/2). I'm at a loss Please don't top-post. Did you try the settings I mentioned previously? (using /dev/input/mice, ExplorerPS/2, and the Buttons option?) If so, and you still have the same problem, please post the relevant lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log. -Richard Damn! I thought I had tried all of your suggestions Richard. Changing the protocol to ExplorerPS/2 has done the trick. Thanks for all of your help. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 17:05:31 up 2:51, 5 users, load average: 0.13, 0.27, 0.29 Linux 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
Did you try the settings I mentioned previously? (using /dev/input/mice, ExplorerPS/2, and the Buttons option?) If so, and you still have the same problem, please post the relevant lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Thanks a lot for your help. I currently use the following section for the USB mouse: Section InputDevice Identifier USB Mouse Driver mouse Option Device/dev/input/mice Option SendCoreEventstrue Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Buttons 8 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection I even tried lowercase characters and IMPS/2 for the protocol, and 5 buttons instead of 8. Now an interesting thing. I just used an xorg.conf I got from a friend 2 days ago, and all mice (trackstick, pad and USB) did work, even the scrollwheel. This is the mouse section from his file: Section InputDevice Driver mouse Identifier Mouse[1] Option Buttons 5 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Name Logitech Optical Mouse Option Protocol explorerps/2 Option Vendor Sysp Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection It's rather similar to the above section. IS it possible that our problem doesn't reside in the InputDevice section? The Xorg.0.log is rather long, and I didn't find any lines in it which point in the missing wheel buttons. I don't want to mess the list with huge attachements (but I could put it on the web and offer a link if it's helpful). Thanks best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
Hi, Damn! I thought I had tried all of your suggestions Richard. Changing the protocol to ExplorerPS/2 has done the trick. Thanks for all of your help. @Ernie: Could you please post the relevant device section you use? Just for my personal interest. @Richard: Let's stop here, I will figure it out for sure if I have time to read and learn a bit more about X configuration. But thanks a bunch for the help, of course! Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On 11/29/05, Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I currently use the following section for the USB mouse: Section InputDevice Identifier USB Mouse Driver mouse Option Device/dev/input/mice Option SendCoreEventstrue Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Buttons 8 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Looks sane... It's rather similar to the above section. IS it possible that our problem doesn't reside in the InputDevice section? Possible. But maybe there is also some corruption (binary characters) in the xorg.conf file. I've seen xfree86/x.org behave strangely before, refusing to see some options, because of garbage characters in the configuration file. The Xorg.0.log is rather long, and I didn't find any lines in it which point in the missing wheel buttons. I don't want to mess the list with huge attachements (but I could put it on the web and offer a link if it's helpful). If it isn't too much trouble, yes, do that. You are also welcome to send the file to me directly, if you like. Also, as your device name is USB Mouse, you should be able to do: grep USB Mouse /var/log/Xorg.0.log -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
Sure. Section InputDevice # Identifier and driver Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse # Option Protocolauto Option ProtocolExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse # Option Device /dev/psaux Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. #Option Protocol Xqueue # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In # almost every case these lines should be omitted. #Option BaudRate 9600 #Option SampleRate150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) #Option Emulate3Buttons #Option Emulate3Timeout50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice Option ChordMiddle EndSection Hope it helps. Note that it works on the Trackman Marble Wheel, but not on my Trackman Wheel. Auto protocol didn't work on any of the 3 mice On Tuesday 29 November 2005 05:24 pm, a tiny voice compelled Christoph Eckert to write: Hi, Damn! I thought I had tried all of your suggestions Richard. Changing the protocol to ExplorerPS/2 has done the trick. Thanks for all of your help. @Ernie: Could you please post the relevant device section you use? Just for my personal interest. @Richard: Let's stop here, I will figure it out for sure if I have time to read and learn a bit more about X configuration. But thanks a bunch for the help, of course! Best regards ce Sure. Section InputDevice # Identifier and driver Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse # Option Protocolauto Option ProtocolExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse # Option Device /dev/psaux Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. #Option Protocol Xqueue # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In # almost every case these lines should be omitted. #Option BaudRate 9600 #Option SampleRate150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) #Option Emulate3Buttons #Option Emulate3Timeout50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice Option ChordMiddle EndSection Hope it helps. Note that it works on the Trackman Marble Wheel, but not on my Trackman Wheel. Auto protocol didn't work on any of the 3 mice -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 17:37:08 up 3:23, 5 users, load average: 0.73, 0.63, 0.38 Linux 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
Hi, Possible. But maybe there is also some corruption (binary characters) in the xorg.conf file. I've seen xfree86/x.org behave strangely before, refusing to see some options, because of garbage characters in the configuration file. does garbage characters mean weird printable characters (so I can see them in the editor) or bytes that are in the file but not seen in the editor? The Xorg.0.log is rather long, and I didn't find any lines in it which point in the missing wheel buttons. I don't want to mess the list with huge attachements (but I could put it on the web and offer a link if it's helpful). If it isn't too much trouble, yes, do that. You are also welcome to send the file to me directly, if you like. I put it on http://www.christeck.de/files/xorg.conf It originally was created by Knoppix :-} . I just added a line at the end of the files section pointing to /dev/input/mice, but it didn't help. Also, as your device name is USB Mouse, you should be able to do: grep USB Mouse /var/log/Xorg.0.log Cool idea, as long we can be sure that there aren't lines around the mouse related lines which report further information. I did cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i mouse (**) |--Input Device PS/2 Mouse (**) Option AllowMouseOpenFail true (II) LoadModule: mouse (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor=X.Org Foundation (==) NV(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) PS/2 Mouse: Device: /dev/psaux (**) PS/2 Mouse: Protocol: PS/2 (**) PS/2 Mouse: always reports core events (**) PS/2 Mouse: Core Pointer (**) PS/2 Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 70 (**) PS/2 Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) PS/2 Mouse: Buttons: 5 (**) PS/2 Mouse: SmartScroll: 1 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device PS/2 Mouse (type: MOUSE) (II) PS/2 Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded (II) PS/2 Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded I wonder that it only tells something about /dev/psaux and PS/S mouse, but where is my USB mouse? Thanks best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On 11/29/05, Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder that it only tells something about /dev/psaux and PS/S mouse, but where is my USB mouse? Ah, I see now. Because you don't have USB mouse in your layout. You can have many InputDevice sections, but only those listed in ServerLayout are used: Section ServerLayout Identifier XFree86 Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDevicePS/2 Mouse CorePointer # Serial Mouse not detected # USB Mouse not detected EndSection Since you only have PS/2 Mouse listed, only that InputDevice section is used. This should work better for you: Section ServerLayout Identifier XFree86 Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDevicePS/2 Mouse CorePointer InputDeviceUSB Mouse EndSection Cheers, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On 11/29/05, Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder that it only tells something about /dev/psaux and PS/S mouse, but where is my USB mouse? Oh, a few more things. /dev/psaux is now deprecated, so you should probably change this to be /dev/input/mouseX. Also, you might want to play a bit with the ordering of your module loading (assuming you are using modules) in /etc/autoload.d/kerne-2.6, so that psmouse is loaded before usbhid. This should make mouse0 and mouse1 your trackpad stick, and mouse2 your USB mouse. This way, you have the option of not connecting the USB mouse, without having X complain about a missing device. In this setup, you would having something like: Section ServerLayout Identifier XFree86 Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDevicetrackpad CorePointer InputDevicestick InputDeviceusbmouse EndSection ... Thanks best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On 11/29/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/29/05, Christoph Eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder that it only tells something about /dev/psaux and PS/S mouse, but where is my USB mouse? Oh, a few more things. /dev/psaux is now deprecated, so you should probably change this to be /dev/input/mouseX. Also, you might want to play a bit with the ordering of your module loading (assuming you are using modules) in /etc/autoload.d/kerne-2.6, so that psmouse is loaded before usbhid. This should make mouse0 and mouse1 your trackpad stick, and mouse2 your USB mouse. This way, you have the option of not connecting the USB mouse, without having X complain about a missing device. In this setup, you would having something like: Section ServerLayout Identifier XFree86 Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDevicetrackpad CorePointer InputDevicestick InputDeviceusbmouse EndSection ... Oops, I clicked send when I meant to click inside the edit box...so let me finish that thought: ... Section InputDevice Identifier trackpad Driver mouse Option Protocol PS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mouse0 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option Emulate3Timeout 70 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier stick Driver mouse Option Protocol PS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mouse1 Option Emulate3Buttons true Option Emulate3Timeout 70 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier USB Mouse Driver mouse Option Device/dev/input/mice Option SendCoreEventstrue Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 # Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Buttons 8 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection The above is assuming that you really need/want Emulate3Buttons for the stick and trackpad. Otherwise, you can get by with a single InputDevice section set to /dev/input/mice. HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On 29 November 2005 21:35, Christoph Eckert wrote: I've just moved from XFree86 to xorg and updated my KDE and now my wheel mouse doesn't scroll anymore. I'm using the same mouse lines in xorg.conf that I used in Xfree86.conf, but I can't get it to work. It must be something I just don't see. Any ideas? exactly the same here. I have tried several lines, even the lines that work for a friend. Maybe it's a hardware related thing? This is what works for me: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Buttons 5 Option Protocol explorerps/2 Option Device /dev/input/mouse0 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Uwe -- Unix is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On 11/28/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just moved from XFree86 to xorg and updated my KDE and now my wheel mouse doesn't scroll anymore. I'm using the same mouse lines in xorg.conf that I used in Xfree86.conf, but I can't get it to work. It must be something I just don't see. Any ideas? Logitek Track man Wheel (USB) I'm confused. If it is a USB mouse, why are you using /dev/psaux? /dev/input/mice would be the preferred device if you are using a 2.6 kernel, with protocol either Auto or ExplorerPS/2. Here is what I have in my xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier usbmouse Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Buttons 8 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option SendCoreEvents On EndSection My guess is the Buttons option is the critical one that you are missing, and should probably be 5 in your case. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
Nothing new in the man pages. This is driving me nuts On Monday 28 November 2005 03:13 pm, a tiny voice compelled Billy Holmes to write: Willie Wong wrote: [02:51 PM]wwong man4 $ man 4x mouse No entry for mouse in section 4x of the manual just do: man 4 mouse -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 19:26:45 up 5:01, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.31, 0.47 Linux 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
