Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:08:36 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something. This seems to be common with Maxtor. Is Hitachi made by the same company as Maxtor I wonder? I've been told Hitachi bought up IBM's drive manufacturing operation a few years ago, but am not sure if it's true. I think of all three as inferior drive manufacturers that aren't to be trusted, if it can be avoided. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
On Montag, 24. Dezember 2007, Dan Farrell wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:08:36 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something. This seems to be common with Maxtor. Is Hitachi made by the same company as Maxtor I wonder? I've been told Hitachi bought up IBM's drive manufacturing operation a few years ago, but am not sure if it's true. I think of all three as inferior drive manufacturers that aren't to be trusted, if it can be avoided. Maxtor got bought by Seagate Hitachi bought IBM's harddisk operations. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Montag, 24. Dezember 2007, Dan Farrell wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:08:36 -0600 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something. This seems to be common with Maxtor. Is Hitachi made by the same company as Maxtor I wonder? I've been told Hitachi bought up IBM's drive manufacturing operation a few years ago, but am not sure if it's true. I think of all three as inferior drive manufacturers that aren't to be trusted, if it can be avoided. Maxtor got bought by Seagate Hitachi bought IBM's harddisk operations. So they are two different drives then, manufacturer wise? Makes me think about those errors even more. Strange. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: SNIP Thanks, I'll browse through these. It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something. This seems to be common with Maxtor. Is Hitachi made by the same company as Maxtor I wonder? I have been getting these errors for some time now. They pass the tests tho. You can run that with this: smartctl -t long /dev/hdX The X should be replaced with the correct drive or you may have to use sdX if you have SATA drives. After it gets done, which may take a while, you can get the results like this: smartctl -l selftest /dev/hdX. Replace the X again. Hope you get a good report. Mine passed. All the tests that I have run so far seem to pass: === # smartctl -l selftest /dev/hda smartctl version 5.37 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_DescriptionStatus Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offlineCompleted without error 00% 5912 - # 2 Extended offlineCompleted without error 00% 1030 - # 3 Short offline Completed without error 00% 1029 - # 4 Short offline Completed without error 00%49 - # 5 Short offline Completed without error 00%28 - # 6 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 - === It's about time I made a back up of this machine anyway. Thanks for your help. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Mick wrote: SNIP It's about time I made a back up of this machine anyway. Thanks for your help. LOL. I make a back-up of mine too. It never hurts to be safe. Dale :-) :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Mick wrote: This has been going on for some time, but nothing has yet gone bang! I can't understand what the errors mean. They seem to occur every other day. The machine is a laptop. Also I am not sure if these errors occurred when I forced a reboot a few times when a WiFi USB driver crashed and locked up my keyboard. Should I be worried? == # cat /var/log/messages | grep Prefailure Dec 17 13:36:15 lappy smartd[6284]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 98 Dec 17 22:00:27 lappy smartd[6267]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 98 to 99 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 105 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 120 to 100 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 100 to 105 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 100 to 116 == I get those a lot too. I have a question, can you post the output of hdparm -i /dev/hda . I have two Maxtor drives and both of mine gives a very similar error. My Western Digital doesn't have any errors at all. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Mick ha scritto: This has been going on for some time, but nothing has yet gone bang! I can't understand what the errors mean. They seem to occur every other day. The machine is a laptop. Also I am not sure if these errors occurred when I forced a reboot a few times when a WiFi USB driver crashed and locked up my keyboard. Should I be worried? == # cat /var/log/messages | grep Prefailure Dec 17 13:36:15 lappy smartd[6284]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 98 Dec 17 22:00:27 lappy smartd[6267]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 98 to 99 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 105 to 100 Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 120 to 100 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 100 to 105 Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 100 to 116 == Hard to say. Given my experience (recently I had smart warnings on a hd, which led me to a sweaty internet hunt for meaning of my errors -in my case, it turned out better to throw it out), they look like non critical. However, do a smartctl long test to really see what's happening. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote:
Mick wrote:
This has been going on for some time, but nothing has yet gone bang! I
can't understand what the errors mean. They seem to occur every other
day. The machine is a laptop. Also I am not sure if these errors
occurred when I forced a reboot a few times when a WiFi USB driver
crashed and locked up my keyboard. Should I be worried?
==
# cat /var/log/messages | grep Prefailure
Dec 17 13:36:15 lappy smartd[6284]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 98
Dec 17 22:00:27 lappy smartd[6267]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 98 to 99
Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 99 to 100
Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 105 to 100
Dec 19 14:37:02 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 120 to 100
Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 2 Throughput_Performance changed from 100 to 105
Dec 19 16:07:01 lappy smartd[6268]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure
Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 100 to 116
==
I get those a lot too. I have a question, can you post the output of
hdparm -i /dev/hda . I have two Maxtor drives and both of mine gives a
very similar error. My Western Digital doesn't have any errors at all.
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
Here ya' go:
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=IC25N020ATMR04-0, FwRev=MO1OAD5A, SerialNo=MRX107K1DS623H
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1740kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=17475/15/63, CurSects=16513875, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39070080
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a: ATA/ATAPI-2,3,4,5,6
* signifies the current active mode
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Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Mick wrote:
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote:
snip
I get those a lot too. I have a question, can you post the output of
hdparm -i /dev/hda . I have two Maxtor drives and both of mine gives a
very similar error. My Western Digital doesn't have any errors at all.
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
Here ya' go:
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=IC25N020ATMR04-0, FwRev=MO1OAD5A, SerialNo=MRX107K1DS623H
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1740kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=17475/15/63, CurSects=16513875, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39070080
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a: ATA/ATAPI-2,3,4,5,6
* signifies the current active mode
So is it a Hitachi or IBM? I was curious since mine is a Maxtor and has
similar errors. I had a thread a while back. Here is some of the info
I was given to read.
http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/01/08/anatomy-of-a-drive-failure
Maybe something will make sense.
Dale
:-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote:
Mick wrote:
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote:
snip
I get those a lot too. I have a question, can you post the output of
hdparm -i /dev/hda . I have two Maxtor drives and both of mine gives a
very similar error. My Western Digital doesn't have any errors at all.
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
Here ya' go:
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=IC25N020ATMR04-0, FwRev=MO1OAD5A, SerialNo=MRX107K1DS623H
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1740kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=17475/15/63, CurSects=16513875, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39070080
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 3a:
ATA/ATAPI-2,3,4,5,6
* signifies the current active mode
So is it a Hitachi or IBM? I was curious since mine is a Maxtor and has
similar errors. I had a thread a while back. Here is some of the info
I was given to read.
lshw tells me it is a Hitachi:
===
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: IC25N020ATMR04-0
vendor: Hitachi
physical id: 0
bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
logical name: /dev/hda
version: MO1OAD5A
serial: MRX107K1DS623H
size: 18GB
capacity: 18GB
capabilities: ata dma lba iordy smart security pm apm
partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: apm=off mode=udma5 smart=on
===
http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/01/08/anatomy-of-a-drive-failure
Maybe something will make sense.
Thanks, I'll browse through these.
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Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages
Mick wrote: SNIP Thanks, I'll browse through these. It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something. This seems to be common with Maxtor. Is Hitachi made by the same company as Maxtor I wonder? I have been getting these errors for some time now. They pass the tests tho. You can run that with this: smartctl -t long /dev/hdX The X should be replaced with the correct drive or you may have to use sdX if you have SATA drives. After it gets done, which may take a while, you can get the results like this: smartctl -l selftest /dev/hdX. Replace the X again. Hope you get a good report. Mine passed. Dale :-) :-) :-)
