Re: [gentoo-user] Sun java from source?

2007-12-22 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 22 December 2007, Yahya Mohammad wrote:

 Apparently there are some bits in sun-jdk licensed from 3rd parties
 that are proprietary. Openjdk project is to replace the proprietary
 pieces to get a fully buildable open source java. However, there's
 already a project called IcedTea that combines the open parts of Java
 with GNU classpath to get a useable jdk. I found a package of it for
 one of my boxes running ubuntu, and it works fine. Maybe we should
 have an ebuild for it too..

Ah thanks, I wasn't aware of idectea. Yes, it seems that having it in 
gentoo would be a good idea. Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting Question...

2007-12-22 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2007 schrieb Benjamen R. Meyer:

 I don't like using NFS much...guess I'll have to change that as I would
 like to centralize my server as a one-stop shop for usernames and
 passwords for the few systems on my network - server, desktop, and a
 laptop at present, but there will also be a few others shortly too. The
 laptop runs Windows 2k, so it'll just auth against Samba...any how...to
 get back to this issue...

Did you think about using OpenAFS?

 I haven't played with LVM yet. It's been something that's intrigued me,
 but I haven't ever researched it much to play with it. What you guys
 propose above and in this thread is quite interesting, so I'll follow up
 with this question:

 Right now I have the server configured per drives as follows:

 /dev/hda1   /    3.8 GB   4096.19 MB
 /dev/hda2   /home   15.0 GB  15356.60 MB
 /dev/hda3   SWAP 2.6 GB   2665.00 MB
 /dev/hda4   /usr/local   4.9 GB   5255.96 MB

 /dev/hdb1   EMPTY   66.3 GB  67875.02 MB
 /dev/hdb2   /var/tmp28.0 GB  30721.43 MB
 /dev/hdb3   /usr/portage47.0 GB  51202.37 MB
 /dev/hdb4   SWAP10.0 GB  10240.48 MB

Having the output of df would help a lot, because it shows how much space is 
already occupied on each filesystem. What about /usr/portage? If you have a 
broadband internet connection you don't need to care about it.

 It's only got a 192 MB of RAM - a PII/233, so I'm giving it generous
 swap space. (My desktop is an AMD64 with  a gig of RAM.) I seem to have
 a sizable partition free (hdb1), so this just might work - but how would
 you guys propose I transition from the above setup to an LVM setup? All
 partitions are currently ext3 (my preferred fs for linux).

Hmm, looks like hdb1 has enough space for all of hda. So you could just boot 
into a rescue CD (my recommendation: GRML), copy the stuff over, eventually  
revise fstab on hdb1 and boot from this partition (to make sure everything 
still wortks as before), then boot back into GRML and repartition hda and 
create logical volumes (as per my first reply), copy the stuff back, together 
with the remaining stuff from hdb, then repartition hdb and add it to the 
volume group.

If you want a more detailed description of the steps above, you can mail me 
directly.

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys

2007-12-22 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Am Mittwoch 19 Dezember 2007 16:58:25 schrieb YoYo Siska:
 Sascha Hlusiak wrote:
  I have this too when using vmware and it seems that somehow just the
  keymap screws up.
 
  I run kcontrol, activate the keyboard layout switcher (with 2 languages
  in it) and once it's activated I can deactivate it again (or switch the
  language back and forth). Then it works again.

 What about a simple setxkbmap us? (or other layout you are using)
 Does that help? (You might need to emerge setxkbmap... ;)
It helps too.

Thanks,
Sascha


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Re: [gentoo-user] Paludis newbie questions [was: Excellent Paludis interview]

2007-12-22 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 22 December 2007 02:50:54 David Relson wrote:
 I'm experimenting with paludis.  Seems fine, though a bit verbose and
 cryptic.  Running paludis -i world produces:

   Unhandled exception:
 * In program paludis -i world:
 * When making environment from specification '':
 * When loading paludis configuration:
 * When reading use file '/etc/paludis/use.conf':
 * When adding source '/etc/paludis/use.conf' as a use file:
 * When validating use flag name '':
 * Name '' is not a valid use flag name (paludis::UseFlagNameError)
[...]

Apparently you have a use.conf entry with no use flag (which makes that entry 
invalid). Paludis is stricter than Portage so it won't just ignore invalid 
input.

 What am I missing that produces the unhandled exception and migrate
 to Paludis configuration messages?

We've received rather few reports from people testing the portage environment 
so it hasn't had much testing. It also disables some features that are 
available when using the paludis environment. Hence the warning.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling mmx USE flag on a Pentium 4 HTT?

2007-12-22 Thread Mark Shields
On Dec 21, 2007 7:10 PM, Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:25:40 -0700 Jonathan Haws
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is a really stupid question I know, but I want some second
  opinions:
 
 
 
  Should the mmx global USE flag be enabled on a Pentium 4 machine and
  why or why not?

 Yes, it should. (Multimedia) programs that support it, e.g. mplayer or
 gimp, will use it.


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If I remember correctly, flags like this are not recommended to enable.  GCC
can already pass the appropriate flags, such as MMX and SSE, to programs
when compiling; the fact that this ebuild has optional use flags for this
setting is a red flag, in my opinion.  I would recommend researching
possible problems you may have before building any programs with the MMX use
flag.
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Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-22 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 00:08:26 -0500
Jeff Cranmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think I'm getting closer now.
 I removed the driver from the kernel, and installed ndiswrapper.
 I got the inf driver from a guy from realtek, and used
 ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf  to install it.
 
 Now, when I run
 iwlist wlan0 scanning, I can actually see my access point listed, plus lots 
 of 
 other local wireless networks.

That's good. It actually receives.

 connecting to it is a different matter, however, as the connection always 
 appears to time out.  I'm using iwconfig to manually set the ESSID, wep key 
 etc. at the moment, and have tried the trick of setting the speed manually to 
 5.5M to avoid timeouts.
 
 When I try to run dhcpcd wlan0 the first time, I get Error, wlan0: timed out
 The second time I try to run it, I get an error because dhcpcd is already 
 running.

Try the minimal approach first and configure it manually using
ifconfig/route and ping some host on your network (or the AP if it does
IP). If that does not work, there's something wrong with the driver, if
it does, the culprit is dhcpcd (vram USE flag?).

Start with WEP, if that works switch to WPA.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FS for laptop

2007-12-22 Thread Mick
On Friday 21 December 2007, Stroller wrote:
 On 21 Dec 2007, at 02:43, Grant Edwards wrote:
  On 2007-12-20, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 20 Dec 2007, at 21:34, Mick wrote:
  ...
  Hmm, this article suggests that XFS is the best thing since sliced
  bread . . .
  especially for files greater than 500MB.  Not sure I've got many of
  these.
 
  A TV episode might well be 700meg.
 
  An HD TV episode might well be 7000meg.

 Well, I was just giving an example, replying specifically to Mick -
 if he doesn't have many 500meg files lying around, then he certainly
 doesn't have any 5000meg video files on his computer.

Well, OK, I think I do have larger than 500M files on my system; just two:

==
# find / -size +500M  
/usr/portage/distfiles/SSTIC04-5k.zip
/proc/kcore
find: `/proc/12204/task/12204/fd/5': No such file or directory
find: `/proc/12204/task/12204/fdinfo/5': No such file or directory
find: `/proc/12204/fd/5': No such file or directory
find: `/proc/12204/fdinfo/5': No such file or directory
==

and /usr/portage on this box is on XFS anyway.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling mmx USE flag on a Pentium 4 HTT?

2007-12-22 Thread Graham Murray
Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If I remember correctly, flags like this are not recommended to enable.  GCC 
 can already pass the appropriate flags, such
 as MMX and SSE, to programs when compiling; the fact that this ebuild has 
 optional use flags for this setting is a red
 flag, in my opinion.  I would recommend researching possible problems you may 
 have before building any programs with the
 MMX use flag. 

The mmx (and sse, sse2 etc) use flags do not normally have anything to
do with the gcc -mmmx etc flags. Normally in a configure for a package
they will cause a optimised assembler to be included for certain functions
rather than using 'generic' C code for them. In ebuilds the mmx USE
flag normally selects these configure options when building the package,
so (unlike using CFLAGS=-mmmx) are quite safe in most cases.
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Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare server + Win 98 = VGA only?

2007-12-22 Thread James R. Campbell
On Saturday 22 December 2007, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 I did nothing to install the tools.  I could not find them.  There's an
 ebuild for
 workstation tools, but not for player or server.  I didn't see anything
 helpful
 on the download page, or in the results from a query for tools on the
 VMWare web site.

 Nevertheless, I'm sure that since you ask, there's a simple way to find
 them that I just missed.

I'm not near my VMs at the moment, but if memory serves: from the VMware 
Server menu bar, choose VM --Install VMware Tools while the guest is 
running.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-22 Thread Jeff Cranmer
On Saturday 22 December 2007 10:30:45 am Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:

  I think I'm getting closer now.
  I removed the driver from the kernel, and installed ndiswrapper.
  I got the inf driver from a guy from realtek, and used
  ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf  to install it.
 
  Now, when I run
  iwlist wlan0 scanning, I can actually see my access point listed, plus
  lots of other local wireless networks.

 That's good. It actually receives.

  connecting to it is a different matter, however, as the connection always
  appears to time out.  I'm using iwconfig to manually set the ESSID, wep
  key etc. at the moment, and have tried the trick of setting the speed
  manually to 5.5M to avoid timeouts.
 
  When I try to run dhcpcd wlan0 the first time, I get Error, wlan0: timed
  out The second time I try to run it, I get an error because dhcpcd is
  already running.

 Try the minimal approach first and configure it manually using
 ifconfig/route and ping some host on your network (or the AP if it does
 IP). If that does not work, there's something wrong with the driver, if
 it does, the culprit is dhcpcd (vram USE flag?).

Just to clarify, how would I ping a host on my network?  I only have one other 
PC connected to the router.
If that is not possible, due to wireless router firewall stealthing (I have a 
rather crash-prone Belkin wireless router at the moment), the next attempt 
would presumably be to ping the AP.
If I have an AP MAC address, 00:15:E9:19:73:F2 (for example), how would I ping 
this?

I have checked the dhcpcd install, and the vram USE flag is presently unset.
Does this flag need to be set?

 Start with WEP, if that works switch to WPA.

I've given up on WPA for now.  If I can get WEP to work, I'll be happy at this 
point, though WPA operation would be the ultimate goal.
Is ndiswrapper meant to work with the 2.6.23 kernel?  I don't want to have to 
step down to an earlier kernel, as that causes problems with changing Xorg 
configurations, but I could go through the pain of this if it were strictly 
necessary.

Thanks

Jeff
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[gentoo-user] Kernel File not found

2007-12-22 Thread Grant
I just finished a re-install of my laptop to get multilib working and
grub apparently can't find the kernel this time.  I've tried grub and
grub-static.  I get this:

root (hd0,0)
Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
kernel /boot /kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8 root: /dev/sda3
Error 15: File not found

I'm using all of the config files that were working perfectly on the
previous install.

The only things out of the ordinary are:

1. I forgot to copy the kernel into the boot partition the first time
I rebooted and got this same error.  I booted the LiveCD again and
copied it over after mounting /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda1.  I thought for
sure that would fix it but no.  I've verified that the correctly named
kernel file is in /mnt/gentoo/boot when /dev/sda1 is mounted.
grub.conf is from my previous install and references the kernel file
correctly.

2. I used -fforce-addr in make.conf this time even though I don't know
what it does because it was included in the default make.conf.

Any ideas?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages

2007-12-22 Thread Mick
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Dale wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  SNIP
 
  Thanks, I'll browse through these.

 It makes me wonder if the drives are sensitive to something.  This
 seems to be common with Maxtor.  Is Hitachi made by the same company as
 Maxtor I wonder?

 I have been getting these errors for some time now.  They pass the tests
 tho.  You can run that with this:  smartctl -t long /dev/hdX  The X
 should be replaced with the correct drive or you may have to use sdX if
 you have SATA drives.  After it gets done, which may take a while, you
 can get the results like this:  smartctl -l selftest /dev/hdX.  Replace
 the X again.

 Hope you get a good report.  Mine passed.

All the tests that I have run so far seem to pass:
===
# smartctl -l selftest /dev/hda
smartctl version 5.37 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted without error   00%  5912 -
# 2  Extended offlineCompleted without error   00%  1030 -
# 3  Short offline   Completed without error   00%  1029 -
# 4  Short offline   Completed without error   00%49 -
# 5  Short offline   Completed without error   00%28 -
# 6  Short offline   Completed without error   00% 0 -
===

It's about time I made a back up of this machine anyway.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling mmx USE flag on a Pentium 4 HTT?

2007-12-22 Thread Mick
On Saturday 22 December 2007, Graham Murray wrote:
 Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  If I remember correctly, flags like this are not recommended to enable. 
  GCC can already pass the appropriate flags, such as MMX and SSE, to
  programs when compiling; the fact that this ebuild has optional use flags
  for this setting is a red flag, in my opinion.  I would recommend
  researching possible problems you may have before building any programs
  with the MMX use flag.

 The mmx (and sse, sse2 etc) use flags do not normally have anything to
 do with the gcc -mmmx etc flags. Normally in a configure for a package
 they will cause a optimised assembler to be included for certain functions
 rather than using 'generic' C code for them. In ebuilds the mmx USE
 flag normally selects these configure options when building the package,
 so (unlike using CFLAGS=-mmmx) are quite safe in most cases.

Hmm, does this mean I should remove my mmmx CFLAGS?  I must have been running 
this lot for at least 2.5 years now and cannot say that I have seen any 
problems with them:

CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -pipe

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Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-22 Thread Mick
On Saturday 22 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
 On Saturday 22 December 2007 10:30:45 am Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
   I think I'm getting closer now.
   I removed the driver from the kernel, and installed ndiswrapper.
   I got the inf driver from a guy from realtek, and used
   ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf  to install it.
  
   Now, when I run
   iwlist wlan0 scanning, I can actually see my access point listed, plus
   lots of other local wireless networks.
 
  That's good. It actually receives.

Yep, you're half way there.  The radio communication part of the equation 
seems to be working.

   connecting to it is a different matter, however, as the connection
   always appears to time out.  I'm using iwconfig to manually set the
   ESSID, wep key etc. at the moment, and have tried the trick of setting
   the speed manually to 5.5M to avoid timeouts.
  
   When I try to run dhcpcd wlan0 the first time, I get Error, wlan0:
   timed out The second time I try to run it, I get an error because
   dhcpcd is already running.

Try to kill it first (dhcpcd -k) and then re-run it.  I would run with 
defaults (re. channel, speed, etc.) and perhaps only add a small delay in 
your /etc/conf.d/net to allow the device to come up:

sleep_scan_wlan0=1

  Try the minimal approach first and configure it manually using
  ifconfig/route and ping some host on your network (or the AP if it does
  IP). If that does not work, there's something wrong with the driver, if
  it does, the culprit is dhcpcd (vram USE flag?).

 Just to clarify, how would I ping a host on my network?  I only have one
 other PC connected to the router.

You use the LAN IP address of the router/host.  I don't know what options 
Belkin gives you, can you turn on responses to pings (ICMP packet requests) 
both on the router and on the other PC?

 If that is not possible, due to wireless router firewall stealthing (I have
 a rather crash-prone Belkin wireless router at the moment), the next
 attempt would presumably be to ping the AP.
 If I have an AP MAC address, 00:15:E9:19:73:F2 (for example), how would I
 ping this?

You could use arping (net-analyzer/arping) - but that assumes that the router 
accepts broadcast messages.

 I have checked the dhcpcd install, and the vram USE flag is presently
 unset. Does this flag need to be set?

Well, it may need to be set depending on your router.  Certain dhcpcd server 
implementations won't play nicely with the latest stable version of the 
dhcpcd client and you end up getting time outs and no IP address.  
Re-emerging with vram USE flag set solves this problem.  Manually setting up 
an available/suitable static LAN IP address may also work (e.g. ifconfig 
wlan0 192.168.0.2).

  Start with WEP, if that works switch to WPA.

 I've given up on WPA for now.  If I can get WEP to work, I'll be happy at
 this point, though WPA operation would be the ultimate goal.
 Is ndiswrapper meant to work with the 2.6.23 kernel?  I don't want to have
 to step down to an earlier kernel, as that causes problems with changing
 Xorg configurations, but I could go through the pain of this if it were
 strictly necessary.

ndiswrapper works fine with this kernel.  I would start with the dhcpcd vram 
flag to take this time out problem out of the equation and then I would edit 
the /etc/conf.d/net to set up all necessary parameters instead of having to 
enter everything via iwconfig at the command line.  This will also minimise 
the chance of typos at the CLI.  Following a process of elimination I would 
start with no encryption whatsoever at the router and if it works I would 
then gradually add WEP and finally WAP.

PS. Assuming you get ndiswrapper going you can retry the in-kernel driver in 
future versions as it is likely that more and more devices will be added.

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Paludis newbie questions [was: Excellent Paludis interview]

2007-12-22 Thread David Relson
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:41:22 +0100
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

 On Saturday 22 December 2007 02:50:54 David Relson wrote:
  I'm experimenting with paludis.  Seems fine, though a bit verbose
  and cryptic.  Running paludis -i world produces:
 
Unhandled exception:
  * In program paludis -i world:
  * When making environment from specification '':
  * When loading paludis configuration:
  * When reading use file '/etc/paludis/use.conf':
  * When adding source '/etc/paludis/use.conf' as a use file:
  * When validating use flag name '':
  * Name '' is not a valid use flag name
  (paludis::UseFlagNameError)
 [...]
 
 Apparently you have a use.conf entry with no use flag (which makes
 that entry invalid). Paludis is stricter than Portage so it won't
 just ignore invalid input.
 
  What am I missing that produces the unhandled exception and
  migrate to Paludis configuration messages?
 
 We've received rather few reports from people testing the portage
 environment so it hasn't had much testing. It also disables some
 features that are available when using the paludis environment. Hence
 the warning.

Hi Bo,

As I'm a paludis newbie and as it allows a multitude of settings, I used
portage2paludis.bash to create /etc/paludis/use.conf.  Whatever is
missing from use.conf is a combination of my ignorance and the script.

A copy of use.conf is attached.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel File not found

2007-12-22 Thread Dale
Grant wrote:
 I just finished a re-install of my laptop to get multilib working and
 grub apparently can't find the kernel this time.  I've tried grub and
 grub-static.  I get this:

 root (hd0,0)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
 kernel /boot /kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8 root: /dev/sda3
 Error 15: File not found

 I'm using all of the config files that were working perfectly on the
 previous install.

 The only things out of the ordinary are:

 1. I forgot to copy the kernel into the boot partition the first time
 I rebooted and got this same error.  I booted the LiveCD again and
 copied it over after mounting /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda1.  I thought for
 sure that would fix it but no.  I've verified that the correctly named
 kernel file is in /mnt/gentoo/boot when /dev/sda1 is mounted.
 grub.conf is from my previous install and references the kernel file
 correctly.

 2. I used -fforce-addr in make.conf this time even though I don't know
 what it does because it was included in the default make.conf.

 Any ideas?

 - Grant
   

When the grub menu comes up, hit e twice and then try to use tab
completion to find it and the arrow keys to navigate.  That may help. 
Tab completion works like it does in a console.  Sort of neat really.

I hope that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] smartd Prefailure messages

2007-12-22 Thread Dale
Mick wrote:
 SNIP

 It's about time I made a back up of this machine anyway.

 Thanks for your help.
   

LOL.  I make a back-up of mine too.  It never hurts to be safe.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel File not found

2007-12-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:15:52 -0800, Grant wrote:

 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83
 kernel /boot /kernel-2.6.22-hardened-r8 root: /dev/sda3
 Error 15: File not found

There should be no space between /boot and /kernel.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Enabling mmx USE flag on a Pentium 4 HTT?

2007-12-22 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:15:57 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hmm, does this mean I should remove my mmmx CFLAGS?  I must have been
 running this lot for at least 2.5 years now and cannot say that I
 have seen any problems with them:
 
 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -pipe

-march=pentium3 implies -msse and -mmmx, so removing them won't
change anything.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death

2007-12-22 Thread maxim wexler
  Be interested to hear from anyone else this has
 ever
  happened to.
 
  Maxim
 
 Do you mean the host PC shutsdown? And by sda1, do
 you mean you're installing 
 to a NTFS partition and not to a virtual hard disk?
 Do I understand right 
 that the installation of XP went OK but booting
 fails? Or are you trying to 
 boot an installed XP from vmware?

vmware hasn't even been merged yet. _Booting_ both
OSes is OK. XP fails; gentoo does not. If I'm not
mistaken XP has to at least work before vmware will.

 
 Anyway, my experience with such sudden failures were
 usually linked to either 
 processor heat or Power Supply being not strong
 enough. But it was never 
 linked to vmware.
 
 Thierry

I'm guessing it's my video card, a Radeon 9250, not
playing nice w/XP. As I said earlier the only thing
installed was the video drivers. Both sets of XP
drivers were tried, the ones that come with XP and the
ATI ones that came on a CD with the card. When _no_
video drivers are installed the PC doesn't commit
suicide. When either set of available XP drivers are
tried the PC randomly dies. 

If it's the PS surely gentoo would fail as well since
I run that(with the gentoo-ATI drivers BTW) for days
on end without a problem running various players,
merging software, moving files etc.

Too much heat? Well, it was running hot as a matter of
fact earlier before XP started to tank. The CPU was
covered with thick brown dust but cleaning it out
didn't help.

To test my theory, today I ordered an nVidia Geforce
vid card off eBay.

I should know in a couple weeks how accurate the
diagnosis ;)

-mw


  

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[gentoo-user] brltty

2007-12-22 Thread mattias
Can i install gentoo with braille support in the installation?

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[gentoo-user] brltty

2007-12-22 Thread mattias
Can i use braille support in gentoo installation?

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Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-22 Thread Jeff Cranmer


-Original Message-
From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 22, 2007 2:01 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

On Saturday 22 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
 On Saturday 22 December 2007 10:30:45 am Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
   I think I'm getting closer now.
   I removed the driver from the kernel, and installed ndiswrapper.
   I got the inf driver from a guy from realtek, and used
   ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf  to install it.
  
   Now, when I run
   iwlist wlan0 scanning, I can actually see my access point listed, plus
   lots of other local wireless networks.
 
  That's good. It actually receives.

Yep, you're half way there.  The radio communication part of the equation 
seems to be working.

   connecting to it is a different matter, however, as the connection
   always appears to time out.  I'm using iwconfig to manually set the
   ESSID, wep key etc. at the moment, and have tried the trick of setting
   the speed manually to 5.5M to avoid timeouts.
  
   When I try to run dhcpcd wlan0 the first time, I get Error, wlan0:
   timed out The second time I try to run it, I get an error because
   dhcpcd is already running.

Try to kill it first (dhcpcd -k) and then re-run it.  I would run with 
defaults (re. channel, speed, etc.) and perhaps only add a small delay in 
your /etc/conf.d/net to allow the device to come up:

sleep_scan_wlan0=1

  Try the minimal approach first and configure it manually using
  ifconfig/route and ping some host on your network (or the AP if it does
  IP). If that does not work, there's something wrong with the driver, if
  it does, the culprit is dhcpcd (vram USE flag?).

 Just to clarify, how would I ping a host on my network?  I only have one
 other PC connected to the router.

You use the LAN IP address of the router/host.  I don't know what options 
Belkin gives you, can you turn on responses to pings (ICMP packet requests) 
both on the router and on the other PC?

 If that is not possible, due to wireless router firewall stealthing (I have
 a rather crash-prone Belkin wireless router at the moment), the next
 attempt would presumably be to ping the AP.
 If I have an AP MAC address, 00:15:E9:19:73:F2 (for example), how would I
 ping this?

You could use arping (net-analyzer/arping) - but that assumes that the router 
accepts broadcast messages.

 I have checked the dhcpcd install, and the vram USE flag is presently
 unset. Does this flag need to be set?

Well, it may need to be set depending on your router.  Certain dhcpcd server 
implementations won't play nicely with the latest stable version of the 
dhcpcd client and you end up getting time outs and no IP address.  
Re-emerging with vram USE flag set solves this problem.  Manually setting up 
an available/suitable static LAN IP address may also work (e.g. ifconfig 
wlan0 192.168.0.2).

  Start with WEP, if that works switch to WPA.

 I've given up on WPA for now.  If I can get WEP to work, I'll be happy at
 this point, though WPA operation would be the ultimate goal.
 Is ndiswrapper meant to work with the 2.6.23 kernel?  I don't want to have
 to step down to an earlier kernel, as that causes problems with changing
 Xorg configurations, but I could go through the pain of this if it were
 strictly necessary.

ndiswrapper works fine with this kernel.  I would start with the dhcpcd vram 
flag to take this time out problem out of the equation and then I would edit 
the /etc/conf.d/net to set up all necessary parameters instead of having to 
enter everything via iwconfig at the command line.  This will also minimise 
the chance of typos at the CLI.  Following a process of elimination I would 
start with no encryption whatsoever at the router and if it works I would 
then gradually add WEP and finally WAP.

PS. Assuming you get ndiswrapper going you can retry the in-kernel driver in 
future versions as it is likely that more and more devices will be added.

HTH.
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Regards,
Mick

I tried recompiling with the vram USE flag set in dhcpcd, but that didn't help.
I then uninstalled ndiswrapper, and installed the modified rtl8187 driver from 
http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/2007/09/26/no-more-vista.

SUCCESS!! :-D

Finally, I have a working wireless card.  I've not tried WPA yet, but WEP 
definitely works.  It isn't quite perfect, as knetworkmanager can't recognise 
the connection, and i haven't quite figured out how to implement the required 
startup script to run automatically, but it's up, and only requires a single 
root user command to execute.

Jeff


I think I'll give it a couple of kernels and see if the built-in RTL driver 
improves.
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Re: [gentoo-user] brltty

2007-12-22 Thread Stroller
I don't know if it's still the case, but I know a couple of years ago  
the LiveCDs supported speakup. I assume they still do; I got the  
impression at the time that this was considered quite cool.


Stroller.


On 22 Dec 2007, at 23:58, mattias wrote:


Can i install gentoo with braille support in the installation?

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Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare server + Win 98 = VGA only?

2007-12-22 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On 12/22/07, James R. Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 22 December 2007, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
  I did nothing to install the tools.  I could not find them.  There's an
  ebuild for
  workstation tools, but not for player or server.  I didn't see anything
  helpful
  on the download page, or in the results from a query for tools on the
  VMWare web site.
 
  Nevertheless, I'm sure that since you ask, there's a simple way to find
  them that I just missed.

 I'm not near my VMs at the moment, but if memory serves: from the VMware
 Server menu bar, choose VM --Install VMware Tools while the guest is
 running.


Yep, that did it.  Thanks.

++ kevin



HTH,
 --James
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[gentoo-user] renaming of the 'gimli' SVN repo

2007-12-22 Thread Andrew Gaffney
This email probably isn't necessary, and most people won't care about this. 
However, sending it was one of robbat2's terms for renaming this SVN repo, so 
here it is :P


The current repo name 'gimli' was the original name of the project a long time 
ago. The name of the project is now Scire, and we've gotten tired of looking at 
the old repo name.


If you have this repo checked out, you can either check it out again, or use one 
of the following commands:


svn switch --relocate svn+ssh://svn.gentoo.org/var/svnroot/gimli 
svn+ssh://svn.gentoo.org/var/svnroot/scire (for devs)


OR

svn switch --relocate http://anonsvn.gentoo.org/repositories/gimli 
http://anonsvn.gentoo.org/repositories/scire (for users of anonsvn)


Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Sudden XP death

2007-12-22 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Sunday 23 December 2007, maxim wexler wrote:
 vmware hasn't even been merged yet. _Booting_ both
 OSes is OK. XP fails; gentoo does not. If I'm not
 mistaken XP has to at least work before vmware will.
(...)
 I'm guessing it's my video card, a Radeon 9250

You are right that XP should work - or you can install it on a virtual 
machine. I am not sure what advantages you get from running vmware from a 
partition (unless of course you also want to dual boot).

My experience with video card is: stick with Nvidia as long as AMD/ATI hasn't 
cured the driver problems - however this is a Linux advice!

You are correct about the psu and probably right about the card. It may be a 
card vs board problem (I had a motherboard that just would not stand a Nvidia 
6600GT, however it locked, it did not shutdown).

I'm afraid I can't help more as far as Windows is concerned: the latest 
version I booted from HD was 3.1 and the latest I run in vmware is 2000.

Good luck,

Thierry


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