Re: [gentoo-user] Web based email clients

2008-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 10 February 2008, Stroller wrote:
  I am currently using squirrelmail. What are some other web based  
  email
  clients I can try out?
 
  http://roundcube.net/

 Are you using Roundcube, and how do you find it?

We stuck it on our mail machine at work for the consultants who work on 
site out of the office.

It gets the job done. Easier to use than some others I have tried. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) Reboot to Windows (using grub)

2008-02-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-10 Thread Mick
On Sunday 10 February 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry for the OT, but unable to raise anyone at comcast right now.

 I think I recall having read somewhere that one can do something to
 discover what devices are on a network (Home lan). And what there
 addresses are.

You are looking for route and arp commands.  However, if you are not part of a 
network all you might see is your PC's loopback entry - the arp and routing 
tables will be empty.

 I've recently switched from DSL to Cable connection but still have
 both working currently.

 I had assumed my netgear-firewall/router would find the Cable modem and
 be able to talk to it, but that isn't happening.

This could be for a number of reasons.  Is the cable modem a pure modem, or is 
it also a router?  Is authentication to the ISP's network configured at the 
PC, or is it configured at the modem?

If the authentication is configured at the PC/client end rather than the 
modem, then you are probably not using the correct encapsulation for the 
cable network and, or have not cloned/spoofed the MAC address of the 
nominated client (your PC).  I guess that your ADSL will be using PPP over 
ATM (PPPoA), if it's anything like what we have in most of the UK, while your 
cable is most likely using PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE).  In any case, you will 
need to change the respective settings in your Netgear router.  BTW, which 
router is it?  If it is one of the DG834 domestic models, these have both 
(ADSL) modem and router combined into one unit.  Again, depending on whether 
your cable modem acts as a bridge or as a client on the Comcast network you 
may or may not need to set up authentication on the router side (in the 
Netgear modem configuration).

 I can connect the cable modem direct to a pc and using the software
 that comes with it establish a connection to the internet, but I
 wanted to have that firewall/router in between the cable modem and home
 pcs.

 But that is only on a windows machine.

That should not stop you finding out what IP address the PC uses to connect to 
the modem and if needed what the MAC address of the PC's NIC is that Comcast 
has registered as a legitimate client.  Go to My Connections and select the 
NIC being used to connect to the modem and then click on Status/Support and 
note what the IP Address:  shows.  If this a private reserved LAN IP address 
then check what the Default Gateway: IP address is.  Use that in a browser, 
or telnet console to connect to your modem.  If however this is an Internet 
address then this won't be good for connecting to modem, which is now acting 
as a bridge to the ISP's network - the IP address is served by your ISP's 
dhcp server.  Another way to find out what IP addresses are being seen by the 
PC is to go to Run and enter ipconfig /all.  Note the IP Address: and Default 
Gateway: as above.  Also note the MAC address (this is called Physical 
Address).  In summary, enter the MAC address into your Netgear router and try 
to connect without authentication, in the hope that the cable modem deals 
with that.  If this does not work, then also enter the username/passwd and 
select PPPoE for encapsulation.  In both cases select dhcp as opposed to 
static IP on the router.

 The help file that comes with the modem provides no information about
 how one talks to the modem.  No ethernet address is supplied.  However
 it is an ethernet device and connects to the pc with ethernet cable.

 Apparently comcast felt it wiser to provide no details and let its
 software do the connecting.

This is because the vast majority of users out there will never want or be 
able to connect to the modem.  The few who connect could well mess it up and 
raise fault tickets unnecessarily.  So Comcast are trying to reduce user 
generated errors proactively.

 But can't I learn the IP address (inward facing) of the modem?  The IP
 from outside is of course visible to ipconfig, when connecting to
 internet from a windows machine thru the cable modem, but I see
 nothing that indicates what its lanside ethernet address is.

 Its obviously connecting to the pc with dhcp so setting the netgear to
 listen for dhcp seemed like it should work... but doesn't.

See above regarding the MAC cloning and authentication encapsulation.

 I thought I would be able to connect to the cable modem with a browser
 and maybe learn enough to make the netgear router/firewall connect to
 it, or one of my gentoo boxes, so have tried a few of the
 semi-standard addresses  other ethernet hubs/routers etc default to, like
 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1 and a few more.

Have you also tried: 

192.168.1.254 and .255
10.10.10.1 and 10.1.10.1

BTW, before you try to connect to any of the above first change your Gentoo's 
IP address statically, by running as root:

ifconfig 192.168.0.2

The exact number is not important as long as it is in the same subdomain (e.g. 
192.168.0.0) and it does not conflict with the expected LAN IP address of the 
router.

A quick 

[gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Jeff Cranmer
Has anyone had any luck viewing videos on news.bbc.co.uk using gentoo?

I have Firefox and mplayerplug-in installed, however I cannot view videos, 
either with the embedded player or the standalone.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 10 February 2008 12:48:44 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote:
 Has anyone had any luck viewing videos on news.bbc.co.uk using gentoo?

 I have Firefox and mplayerplug-in installed, however I cannot view videos,
 either with the embedded player or the standalone.

 Jeff

Works here. Running Gentoo, firefox and the realplayer plugin. When you click 
on a video, in the next box click on stand-alone player and use realplayer. 
Takes a while for the stream to start, but once it does it's ok...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Web based email clients

2008-02-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:42:52 +, Stroller wrote:

 I don't immediately see an ebuild for it, which seems a little  
 disappointing 

There's an ebuild in the hollow overlay and also one on bugzilla.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Sunday 10 February 2008 15:00:38 Ian Lee wrote:
 Jeff Cranmer wrote:
  Has anyone had any luck viewing videos on news.bbc.co.uk using gentoo?
 
  I have Firefox and mplayerplug-in installed, however I cannot view
  videos, either with the embedded player or the standalone.
 
  Jeff

 It's a flash based player mplayer wont work

I can watch the videos without any problem with konqueror, it appears to 
launch an embeded version of kmplayer.
Saludos
Matt
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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Ian Lee
Jeff Cranmer wrote:
 Has anyone had any luck viewing videos on news.bbc.co.uk using gentoo?

 I have Firefox and mplayerplug-in installed, however I cannot view videos, 
 either with the embedded player or the standalone.

 Jeff
   
It's a flash based player mplayer wont work
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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Ian Lee
Ian Lee wrote:
 Jeff Cranmer wrote:
   
 Has anyone had any luck viewing videos on news.bbc.co.uk using gentoo?

 I have Firefox and mplayerplug-in installed, however I cannot view videos, 
 either with the embedded player or the standalone.

 Jeff
   
 
 It's a flash based player mplayer wont work
   
If you're using 64 bit firefox net-www/nspluginwrapper is a good way to
get flash working or theres firefox-bin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Jeff Cranmer
This PC is a 32 bit OS.  It does have flash - all youtube videos work OK.

Jeff


-Original Message-
From: Ian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 10, 2008 1:04 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

Ian Lee wrote:
 Jeff Cranmer wrote:
   
 Has anyone had any luck viewing videos on news.bbc.co.uk using gentoo?

 I have Firefox and mplayerplug-in installed, however I cannot view videos, 
 either with the embedded player or the standalone.

 Jeff
   
 
 It's a flash based player mplayer wont work
   
If you're using 64 bit firefox net-www/nspluginwrapper is a good way to
get flash working or theres firefox-bin
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[gentoo-user] Interface fonts

2008-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi,

I use e17 as my window manager, with a lot of kde apps and some gtk ones 
thrown in for good measure. The problem is getting all these apps to 
use vaguely similar fonts and font sizes for the interface (menus, 
statusbar, etc)

What's an easy way to specify the interface fonts for gtk apps without 
using gnome? I could especially use some pointers for firefox (I 
*think* about:config does this somewhere) but openoffice and gimp have 
me stumped - both are using huge fonts currently for the menus on my 
machine

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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Jeff Cranmer
Ah - it appears that if I copy the weblink, then open it in Realplayer, I can 
successfully view the videos.

The question is, how do I get firefox to launch realplayer as the standalone 
player instead of mplayerplug-in?

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 10, 2008 1:12 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

On Sunday 10 February 2008 12:48:44 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote:
 Has anyone had any luck viewing videos on news.bbc.co.uk using gentoo?

 I have Firefox and mplayerplug-in installed, however I cannot view videos,
 either with the embedded player or the standalone.

 Jeff

Works here. Running Gentoo, firefox and the realplayer plugin. When you click 
on a video, in the next box click on stand-alone player and use realplayer. 
Takes a while for the stream to start, but once it does it's ok...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 10 February 2008 01:04:28 pm Matthew R. Lee wrote:
 On Sunday 10 February 2008 15:00:38 Ian Lee wrote:
  Jeff Cranmer wrote:
   Has anyone had any luck viewing videos on news.bbc.co.uk using gentoo?
  
   I have Firefox and mplayerplug-in installed, however I cannot view
   videos, either with the embedded player or the standalone.
  
   Jeff
 
  It's a flash based player mplayer wont work

 I can watch the videos without any problem with konqueror, it appears to
 launch an embeded version of kmplayer.
 Saludos
 Matt

That makes sense as it's the kde frontend for mplayer.  I had some real 
problems with kmplayer and mplayer not playing nice. Kmplayer was sending 
commandline parameters that the latest versions of mplayer didn't understand.  
Try the realplayer plugin ans see if it works.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Interface fonts

2008-02-10 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sunday 10 February 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Hi,

 I use e17 as my window manager, with a lot of kde apps and some gtk
 ones thrown in for good measure. The problem is getting all these apps
 to use vaguely similar fonts and font sizes for the interface (menus,
 statusbar, etc)

 What's an easy way to specify the interface fonts for gtk apps without
 using gnome? I could especially use some pointers for firefox (I
 *think* about:config does this somewhere) but openoffice and gimp have
 me stumped - both are using huge fonts currently for the menus on my
 machine

There is a neat application that can do that for all gtk apps at once:

piggy# eix gtk-theme-switch
* x11-themes/gtk-theme-switch
 Available versions:
(1.2)   1.0.1-r2
(2) 2.0.0_rc2-r2
 Homepage:http://www.muhri.net/nav.php3?node=gts
 Description: Application for easy change of GTK-Themes

Just launch switch2, click the +, check the use font box, and select 
the font you want. You can also get a preview.
Not sure about firefox though. Fonts in firefox can however be changed 
easily by going to edit - preferences - content - font  colours.
OOo has the tools - options menu to change fonts.

For QT apps, there's qtconfig, provided by qt, which you probably have 
installed if you run QT apps.

There is also this page on the wiki:

http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Same_look_for_QT,_GTK_2_and_GTK_1_apps

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-10 Thread Grant
 my guess is that courier hasn't been told where to look for the mails.
 If you can see them from squirrelmail but not imap, that's probably the
 problem.

But squirrelmail doesn't work if I stop imapd, so imapd must know
where the mail is and squirrelmail must be using imapd right?

 furthermore you can diagnose connection problems seperately from
 missing mail problems. ( claws-mail has a convenient log feature for
 connections.   )  you may not be able to connect at all if you don't
 make yourself a cert.  (you probably read about that)

Is that .claws-mail/claws.log?  That file is 0 bytes for me.

  i am not using mysql, just plain maildirs. I don't remember
 the howto I followed anymore (there seems to be so many) here's some
 relevant config files, I hope they help you. Selections from the
 directories in /etc have been provided here:

I'm not using mysql either.  I was just using pieces from that howto.

- Grant


 http://spore.ath.cx/~dan/confing/mail/

 I don't think main.cf is relevant, but I included it anyway.  I also
 removed some of the files I know I didn't change/don't use.  If you find
 something lacking, let me know.  And if you have any particular
 questions, please go ahead.
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[gentoo-user] Where's my Kmail message marks?!

2008-02-10 Thread Mick
Hi All,

Just noticed that the messages that I had marked as Important in Kmail, are 
no more.  How could this happen?  Did I press something I shouldn't have?  
Was the update to 3.5.8 done away with them, or is it perhaps related to a 
crash . . . ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Interface fonts

2008-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 10 February 2008, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 Just launch switch2, click the +, check the use font box, and
 select the font you want. You can also get a preview.
 Not sure about firefox though. Fonts in firefox can however be
 changed easily by going to edit - preferences - content - font 
 colours. OOo has the tools - options menu to change fonts.

Perfect. This one was just the biscuit.

Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-10 Thread Grant
  I just don't have a good understanding of email.  Can you give me an
  idea of how you'd set this up?  At this point I only need mail for
  myself via claws-mail.  I currently use postfix, courier-imap, and
  squirrelmail, and my mail is in ~/.maildir/ too.

 Well, I don't see why you changed Courier to virtuals.

I don't think I'm using virtuals.  I was only using pieces of that
virtuals howto.  I'm still trying to figure all this out.

 When you connect with Squirrelmail it is simply connecting to the
 IMAP server on hostname port 143 or 993. When it does so the IMAP
 server says hello, what's your username, password and Squirrelmail
 gives these. I don't see why you didn't point claws-mail at the same
 IMAP server - all you'd have needed to do so, give it the same
 username  password and Bob would have married your auntie in a big
 ceremony with lots of flowers  confetti.

Because claws-mail is here and imap is there and I don't want to send
the password unencrypted.  I think the only thing I'm trying to do
differently now is connect to imapd-ssl instead of imapd.

 Squirrelmail might typically connect to the server on localhost using
 unencrypted IMAP - on the same machine you should be able to connect
 claws-mail the same way. You may wish then to configure the IMAP
 server to allow connections from other addresses and to listen on
 secure IMAPS / 993, but this is trivial (eg SSLADDRESS=0 in /etc/
 courier-imap/imapd-ssl).

I started imapd-ssl with those settings the other day.  That's how
I've been trying to connect with no luck.  I don't know if it's a
certificate problem or something else.  Should I copy
/etc/courier-imap/imapd.pem from the remote server to somewhere on the
local machine for claws-mail?  The claws-mail manual is no help here.

Should I be using my remote server's IP address for the server names
in the claws-mail config?  Should IMAP4 authentication method be
Automatic?

- Grant


 You still need to connect to the same machine on secure IMAPS / 993,
 but changing (from authentication based on Unix users??) to virtual
 users has presumably broken your existing configuration (and ensured
 that the server no longer knows where to look for your mail store),
 so you need start again (largely) from scratch.
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[gentoo-user] [OT] Migrating Drupal websites

2008-02-10 Thread Mick
I am not quite sure how best to setup a local Drupal development server.  This 
is only for developing the websites, which when ready for publishing will be 
migrated to the hosting server.

Still at the planning stage with all this, I want to keep each website 
separate.  So I was thinking of having separate MySQL users, each with their 
own MySQL database.  Also, I am not sure where to save (physically) each 
database.  Is it prudent to keep them separately under the respective virtual 
host domainname fs (/var/www/domainname), or should I leave these under the 
default /var/lib/mysql/,  or where ever they are normally stored?  Haven't 
looked into tablespaces yet.

For the sake of avoiding a major domestic, I want to make sure that migration 
to the hosting server will happen without any glitches, or worse having to 
redesign the website from scratch!  What's a clever way of going about this?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-10 Thread Stroller


On 10 Feb 2008, at 20:05, Grant wrote:


I just don't have a good understanding of email.  Can you give me an
idea of how you'd set this up?  At this point I only need mail for
myself via claws-mail.  I currently use postfix, courier-imap, and
squirrelmail, and my mail is in ~/.maildir/ too.


Well, I don't see why you changed Courier to virtuals.


I don't think I'm using virtuals.  I was only using pieces of that
virtuals howto.  I'm still trying to figure all this out.


Please excuse me. I appear to have followed an assumption made by a  
previous poster.



When you connect with Squirrelmail it is simply connecting to the
IMAP server on hostname port 143 or 993. When it does so the IMAP
server says hello, what's your username, password and Squirrelmail
gives these. I don't see why you didn't point claws-mail at the same
IMAP server - all you'd have needed to do so, give it the same
username  password and Bob would have married your auntie in a big
ceremony with lots of flowers  confetti.


Because claws-mail is here and imap is there and I don't want to send
the password unencrypted.  I think the only thing I'm trying to do
differently now is connect to imapd-ssl instead of imapd.


Well, do it once to prove the point. Then change your password  move  
to the next step.


I actually intended for you to use claws-mail on the same machine as  
the IMAP server - use `ssh -X` if necessary - just so you could see  
how it's set up.


Is Squirrelmail still working, connecting to the 143 port? Have you  
tried changing it to connect via IMAPS?



... You may wish then to configure the IMAP
server to allow connections from other addresses and to listen on
secure IMAPS / 993, but this is trivial (eg SSLADDRESS=0 in /etc/
courier-imap/imapd-ssl).


I started imapd-ssl with those settings the other day.  That's how
I've been trying to connect with no luck.


Have you run /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start?

Does `lsof` or `netstat` indicate the server is listening on the  
IMAPS port?

Have you tried port-scanning the server using nmap?
Have you tried doing so from localhost?


I don't know if it's a
certificate problem or something else.  Should I copy
/etc/courier-imap/imapd.pem from the remote server to somewhere on the
local machine for claws-mail?


I doubt it. I've never had to do anything like that. Your mail client  
will normally just pop up a moody certificate error which you can  
tell it to ignore.



Should I be using my remote server's IP address for the server names
in the claws-mail config?  Should IMAP4 authentication method be
Automatic?


Yes, that should be fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Sunday 10 February 2008 16:28:12 Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Sunday 10 February 2008 01:04:28 pm Matthew R. Lee wrote:
  On Sunday 10 February 2008 15:00:38 Ian Lee wrote:
   Jeff Cranmer wrote:
Has anyone had any luck viewing videos on news.bbc.co.uk using
gentoo?
   
I have Firefox and mplayerplug-in installed, however I cannot view
videos, either with the embedded player or the standalone.
   
Jeff
  
   It's a flash based player mplayer wont work
 
  I can watch the videos without any problem with konqueror, it appears to
  launch an embeded version of kmplayer.
  Saludos
  Matt

 That makes sense as it's the kde frontend for mplayer.  I had some real
 problems with kmplayer and mplayer not playing nice. Kmplayer was sending
 commandline parameters that the latest versions of mplayer didn't
 understand. Try the realplayer plugin ans see if it works.

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I can use realplayer aswell, I use it to stream BBC radio, though it works 
better if you click launch as a stand-alone player, the embeded version tends 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Viewing BBC videos on Gentoo

2008-02-10 Thread Jeff Cranmer



 From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride

I can use realplayer aswell, I use it to stream BBC radio, though it works 
better if you click launch as a stand-alone player, the embeded version tends 
to skip a bit

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-10 Thread Grant
  When you connect with Squirrelmail it is simply connecting to the
  IMAP server on hostname port 143 or 993. When it does so the IMAP
  server says hello, what's your username, password and Squirrelmail
  gives these. I don't see why you didn't point claws-mail at the same
  IMAP server - all you'd have needed to do so, give it the same
  username  password and Bob would have married your auntie in a big
  ceremony with lots of flowers  confetti.
 
  Because claws-mail is here and imap is there and I don't want to send
  the password unencrypted.  I think the only thing I'm trying to do
  differently now is connect to imapd-ssl instead of imapd.

 Well, do it once to prove the point. Then change your password  move
 to the next step.

 I actually intended for you to use claws-mail on the same machine as
 the IMAP server - use `ssh -X` if necessary - just so you could see
 how it's set up.

 Is Squirrelmail still working, connecting to the 143 port? Have you
 tried changing it to connect via IMAPS?

  ... You may wish then to configure the IMAP
  server to allow connections from other addresses and to listen on
  secure IMAPS / 993, but this is trivial (eg SSLADDRESS=0 in /etc/
  courier-imap/imapd-ssl).
 
  I started imapd-ssl with those settings the other day.  That's how
  I've been trying to connect with no luck.

 Have you run /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start?

 Does `lsof` or `netstat` indicate the server is listening on the
 IMAPS port?
 Have you tried port-scanning the server using nmap?
 Have you tried doing so from localhost?

I actually needed to rebuild folder tree in claws-mail.  I should
have believed the pop-up.

I still can't send mail though, with or without authentication.  I get
this when port scanning with nmap:

25/tcp   filtered smtp

Does that mean my host is blocking the smtp port?

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome overlay?

2008-02-10 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 06:01 -0800, Grant wrote:

 Thanks for the help.  I'm updating rhythmbox via layman now.  Not sure
 why evolution-data-server is a dependency though.

it's required by totem-pl-parser for some reason:

 =gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.12

don't ask me why.  Maybe someone else can comment?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD 2008.Feb.08. minimal i686

2008-02-10 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 19:21 +0100, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
 2008. 02. 9, szombat keltezéssel 22.01-kor Iain Buchanan ezt írta:
  On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 21:22 +0100, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
   Ladies and Gentleman,
  [snip]
   Please, do not kill my server with overload :)
   If somebody has a mirror, drop me a private mail.
  
  how about a torrent?  Then everyone's a mirror ;)
 
 
 
 Thank you, yes, this is the next plan :) With few seeder it will be a
 good distribution basis.
 
 I will make it later.

let me know when, and I'll seed it for you :)  I only have 256k up but
it's a start!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-10 Thread Grant
  I just don't have a good understanding of email.  Can you give me an
  idea of how you'd set this up?  At this point I only need mail for
  myself via claws-mail.  I currently use postfix, courier-imap, and
  squirrelmail, and my mail is in ~/.maildir/ too.
 
  Well, I don't see why you changed Courier to virtuals.
 
  I don't think I'm using virtuals.  I was only using pieces of that
  virtuals howto.  I'm still trying to figure all this out.

 Please excuse me. I appear to have followed an assumption made by a
 previous poster.

  When you connect with Squirrelmail it is simply connecting to the
  IMAP server on hostname port 143 or 993. When it does so the IMAP
  server says hello, what's your username, password and Squirrelmail
  gives these. I don't see why you didn't point claws-mail at the same
  IMAP server - all you'd have needed to do so, give it the same
  username  password and Bob would have married your auntie in a big
  ceremony with lots of flowers  confetti.
 
  Because claws-mail is here and imap is there and I don't want to send
  the password unencrypted.  I think the only thing I'm trying to do
  differently now is connect to imapd-ssl instead of imapd.

 Well, do it once to prove the point. Then change your password  move
 to the next step.

 I actually intended for you to use claws-mail on the same machine as
 the IMAP server - use `ssh -X` if necessary - just so you could see
 how it's set up.

 Is Squirrelmail still working, connecting to the 143 port? Have you
 tried changing it to connect via IMAPS?

  ... You may wish then to configure the IMAP
  server to allow connections from other addresses and to listen on
  secure IMAPS / 993, but this is trivial (eg SSLADDRESS=0 in /etc/
  courier-imap/imapd-ssl).
 
  I started imapd-ssl with those settings the other day.  That's how
  I've been trying to connect with no luck.

 Have you run /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start?

 Does `lsof` or `netstat` indicate the server is listening on the
 IMAPS port?
 Have you tried port-scanning the server using nmap?
 Have you tried doing so from localhost?

  I don't know if it's a
  certificate problem or something else.  Should I copy
  /etc/courier-imap/imapd.pem from the remote server to somewhere on the
  local machine for claws-mail?

 I doubt it. I've never had to do anything like that. Your mail client
 will normally just pop up a moody certificate error which you can
 tell it to ignore.

  Should I be using my remote server's IP address for the server names
  in the claws-mail config?  Should IMAP4 authentication method be
  Automatic?

 Yes, that should be fine.

Does anyone know if claws-mail-smime is the gpg plugin?  If so, should
it show up under Privacy or Plugins once I've emerged it?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-10 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:53:31 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  my guess is that courier hasn't been told where to look for the
  mails. If you can see them from squirrelmail but not imap, that's
  probably the problem.
 
 But squirrelmail doesn't work if I stop imapd, so imapd must know
 where the mail is and squirrelmail must be using imapd right?

Seems logical to me.  ... yeah, isn't it really just a web-based imap
client?  Make sure the same imap daemon is running.  

  furthermore you can diagnose connection problems seperately from
  missing mail problems. ( claws-mail has a convenient log feature for
  connections.   )  you may not be able to connect at all if you don't
  make yourself a cert.  (you probably read about that)
 
 Is that .claws-mail/claws.log?  That file is 0 bytes for me.

There should be a log option when connections fail; then the text comes
up in a dialog box.  

   i am not using mysql, just plain maildirs. I don't remember
  the howto I followed anymore (there seems to be so many) here's some
  relevant config files, I hope they help you. Selections from the
  directories in /etc have been provided here:
 
 I'm not using mysql either.  I was just using pieces from that howto.
OK, good.  
 - Grant
 
 
  http://spore.ath.cx/~dan/confing/mail/

Did any of the configs help you?  I would make sure the program I
thought was running on the port I was connection to, if I were you.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-10 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:55:49 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 10 February 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If the authentication is configured at the PC/client end rather than
 the modem, then you are probably not using the correct encapsulation
 for the cable network and, or have not cloned/spoofed the MAC address
 of the nominated client (your PC).  I guess that your ADSL will be
 using PPP over ATM (PPPoA), if it's anything like what we have in
 most of the UK, while your cable is most likely using PPP over
 Ethernet (PPPoE).  

 In any case, you will need to change the
 respective settings in your Netgear router.  BTW, which router is
 it?  If it is one of the DG834 domestic models, these have both
 (ADSL) modem and router combined into one unit.  Again, depending on
 whether your cable modem acts as a bridge or as a client on the
 Comcast network you may or may not need to set up authentication on
 the router side (in the Netgear modem configuration).

Unless your comcast connection differs from my own, you won't need to
authenticate.  Instead, they should have recorded your modem's MAC
address.  

AFAIK we use ppp-oe for (a)dsl here in the states, and all cable modem
connections I've ever seen have been transparent (though no doubt they
use some sort of ppp as well)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fake IMAP - Real IMAP

2008-02-10 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:45:14 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I still can't send mail though, with or without authentication.  I get
 this when port scanning with nmap:
 
 25/tcp   filtered smtp
 
 Does that mean my host is blocking the smtp port?

It's possible.  Or, perhaps you're behind a firewall without that port
open?  

Many ISPs do block 25.  send me an IP if you want me to map from here.
Otherwise, I'm sure if it looks closed, and you have it open on your
end, it's got to be an ISP blockage.  

I recommend you use 587 (right?) the smtp submission port, with sasl
authentication, and ssl if possible.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD 2008.Feb.08. minimal i686

2008-02-10 Thread Hal Martin
Can I have a copy of the torrent? I have ~3Mbit up.


-Hal


Iain Buchanan wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 19:21 +0100, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
   
 2008. 02. 9, szombat keltezéssel 22.01-kor Iain Buchanan ezt írta:
 
 On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 21:22 +0100, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
   
 Ladies and Gentleman,
 
 [snip]
   
 Please, do not kill my server with overload :)
 If somebody has a mirror, drop me a private mail.
 
 how about a torrent?  Then everyone's a mirror ;)
   

 Thank you, yes, this is the next plan :) With few seeder it will be a
 good distribution basis.

 I will make it later.
 

 let me know when, and I'll seed it for you :)  I only have 256k up but
 it's a start!
   

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-10 Thread Dale

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry for the OT, but unable to raise anyone at comcast right now.

I think I recall having read somewhere that one can do something to
discover what devices are on a network (Home lan). And what there
addresses are.

I've recently switched from DSL to Cable connection but still have
both working currently.

I had assumed my netgear-firewall/router would find the Cable modem and
be able to talk to it, but that isn't happening.

I can connect the cable modem direct to a pc and using the software
that comes with it establish a connection to the internet, but I
wanted to have that firewall/router in between the cable modem and home
pcs. 


But that is only on a windows machine.

The help file that comes with the modem provides no information about
how one talks to the modem.  No ethernet address is supplied.  However
it is an ethernet device and connects to the pc with ethernet cable.

Apparently comcast felt it wiser to provide no details and let its
software do the connecting.

But can't I learn the IP address (inward facing) of the modem?  The IP
from outside is of course visible to ipconfig, when connecting to
internet from a windows machine thru the cable modem, but I see
nothing that indicates what its lanside ethernet address is.

Its obviously connecting to the pc with dhcp so setting the netgear to
listen for dhcp seemed like it should work... but doesn't.

I thought I would be able to connect to the cable modem with a browser
and maybe learn enough to make the netgear router/firewall connect to
it, or one of my gentoo boxes, so have tried a few of the
semi-standard addresses  other ethernet hubs/routers etc default to, like
192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1 and a few more.

  


I'm not sure if this will work for you or not but it worked for me when 
I was at my ex's and we had cable there.  Cut everything off.  Turn on 
the modem and wait a minute or two after the lights stop changing and 
blinking.  Turn on the next device, router in our case, and wait a few 
minutes again.  Then turn on the computers.  I always cut on the one 
hooked to the ethernet #1 port first but it may not matter.  That was my 
Linux box and it was always on, 24/7.


I also had to change the IP address on the router to a fixed address to 
get it to work right.  I think I had it set to 192.168.100.2.  After 
that, we had very little trouble with the connection.  The modem itself 
was 192.168.100.1.  If you hook your computer directly to the modem, you 
can see things like signal strength and stuff.  Can't change anything 
tho.  You just get to look.  I think it had like a reset button too.  
Also, if I had anything between the computer and the modem, I could not 
see the modem at all.  YMMV.


Oh, we had Vista-Media to.  If that matters any.

May not help but may be worth a shot in the dark.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Migrating Drupal websites

2008-02-10 Thread kashani

Mick wrote:
I am not quite sure how best to setup a local Drupal development server.  This 
is only for developing the websites, which when ready for publishing will be 
migrated to the hosting server.


Still at the planning stage with all this, I want to keep each website 
separate.  So I was thinking of having separate MySQL users, each with their 
own MySQL database.  Also, I am not sure where to save (physically) each 
database.  Is it prudent to keep them separately under the respective virtual 
host domainname fs (/var/www/domainname), or should I leave these under the 
default /var/lib/mysql/,  or where ever they are normally stored?  Haven't 
looked into tablespaces yet.


For the sake of avoiding a major domestic, I want to make sure that migration 
to the hosting server will happen without any glitches, or worse having to 
redesign the website from scratch!  What's a clever way of going about this?


	Are you going to be running multiple instances of Mysql or just letting 
each site have it's own db within Mysql? Most of the time people do that 
later and if that is the case Mysql will store each db in it's own dir 
under /var/lib/mysql/. I do recommend using a customer prefix for 
databases. Some thing like acme_drupal, sears_drupal, etc which will 
make it much simpler to remember what db is for what.


	You'll need to work out your release system. I'm not sure what tools 
drupal offers if any. Have you looked through their docs?


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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can connect the cable modem direct to a pc and using the software
 that comes with it establish a connection to the internet, but I
 wanted to have that firewall/router in between the cable modem and home
 pcs.

You could install Wireshark and capture the traffic between the
modem and the PC in the case where it works.  That would tell
you the modem's MAC address and whether the modem has an IP
address or not.

 The help file that comes with the modem provides no
 information about how one talks to the modem.  No ethernet
 address is supplied.  However it is an ethernet device and
 connects to the pc with ethernet cable.

 Apparently comcast felt it wiser to provide no details and let
 its software do the connecting.

 But can't I learn the IP address (inward facing) of the modem?

It may not have one.

 The IP from outside is of course visible to ipconfig, when
 connecting to internet from a windows machine thru the cable
 modem, but I see nothing that indicates what its lanside
 ethernet address is.

If the PC has an IP address that is visible from the outside,
then the modem is running as a bridge and might not have an IP
address at all.

 Its obviously connecting to the pc with dhcp so setting the
 netgear to listen for dhcp seemed like it should work... but
 doesn't.

I would think that if the netgear router is a DHCP client on
its WAN interface, then connecting the WAN interface to the
cable modem should work.  I've done that with a few different
router/cable-modem combinations with Comcast (nee T-W), and it
always worked.  Can you trace the newtork traffic between the
netgear and the cable modem?  That would require either a hub
or a properly configured managed switch, so that may not be a
simple task.

 I thought I would be able to connect to the cable modem with a
 browser and maybe learn enough to make the netgear
 router/firewall connect to it, or one of my gentoo boxes, so
 have tried a few of the semi-standard addresses other ethernet
 hubs/routers etc default to, like 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1 and
 a few more.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD 2008.Feb.08. minimal i686

2008-02-10 Thread Pongracz Istvan
Hi,

Sure, thank you for you both (Iain and Hal).
I prepare a torrent file and I will send it to you.
I plan to bundle the livecd + portage snapshot + stage3.
Any pro/contra?

First, I have to learn using a tracker :)

István


2008. 02. 10, vasárnap keltezéssel 22.08-kor Hal Martin ezt írta:
 Can I have a copy of the torrent? I have ~3Mbit up.
 
 
 -Hal
 
 
 Iain Buchanan wrote:



 
  let me know when, and I'll seed it for you :)  I only have 256k up but
  it's a start!

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-10 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:52:14 -0600
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I also had to change the IP address on the router to a fixed address
 to get it to work right.  I think I had it set to 192.168.100.2.
 After that, we had very little trouble with the connection.  The
 modem itself was 192.168.100.1.  If you hook your computer directly
 to the modem, you can see things like signal strength and stuff.
 Can't change anything tho.  You just get to look.  

Interesting!  I wonder if mine had a utility for something like that on
the disks that I didn't bother to open that came with the modem

In this case it sounds a lot like a DMZ kind of thing, right?  I see
DSL doing that a lot of the time.  Often you can also turn it off and
use it as a dumb ppp or such.  Other times, your stuck behind it and
may not even be able to forward ports.  

Or maybe it's something different, something I haven't seen.  
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[gentoo-user] installation of cross compiler binary

2008-02-10 Thread Suma Sharma
Hi
Please give me the procedure to install the cross-compiler
sh4-unknown-linux-gnu toolchain available on
http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/cross-x86/ 

Regards,
Suma Sharma
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Interrogate network for devices

2008-02-10 Thread Dale

Dan Farrell wrote:

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:52:14 -0600
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

I also had to change the IP address on the router to a fixed address
to get it to work right.  I think I had it set to 192.168.100.2.
After that, we had very little trouble with the connection.  The
modem itself was 192.168.100.1.  If you hook your computer directly
to the modem, you can see things like signal strength and stuff.
Can't change anything tho.  You just get to look.  



Interesting!  I wonder if mine had a utility for something like that on
the disks that I didn't bother to open that came with the modem

In this case it sounds a lot like a DMZ kind of thing, right?  I see
DSL doing that a lot of the time.  Often you can also turn it off and
use it as a dumb ppp or such.  Other times, your stuck behind it and
may not even be able to forward ports.  

Or maybe it's something different, something I haven't seen.  
  


I'm no guru on this thing but for some reason the DHCP part in the 
Linksys router would just not accept the address from the modem.  Sort 
of weird in a way tho.


Since I use Linux only, I never installed any software.  I just pointed 
my browser to that address and up it popped.  That would work when 
looking for the modem or the router.  Tho I could not get to the modem 
if the router was in the middle.  Not sure what the deal is on that.


If I had access to one I'd get you a screen shot or something but like I 
said, that was my ex's thing.  She is still mad that I left.  She had 
issues that I couldn't deal with.  Ya know.  ;-)


Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

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