[gentoo-user] Search gentoo documentation
Is there any way to search the Gentoo docs? I have tried google: http://www.google.com/search?as_q=vixie-cron+ssmpt +mailbase&num=10&hl=en&btnG=Google +Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=lang_en&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=www.gentoo.org%2Fdoc&safe=images (search www.gentoo.org/doc, in english, for the terms vixie-cron, mailbase, ssmtp) but it returned no pages. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Where does package.provided go?
Since "emerge -inject" is depreciated, the way to tell emerge that a package is already installed is to list it in package.provided. It seems there is some confusion as to where package.provided should be placed. The portage man page talks about /etc/make.profile/ but I have seen other documentation (I believe in the gentoo wiki) which says put in /etc/portage/. The problem is that emerge ignores it in /etc/portage and "an emerge sync" removes it from /etc/make.profile/. So the question is: Where should it be placed? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Where does package.provided go?
I had noticed that in the portage manpage but thought it meant I had to make my own profile. Guess not. Anyway, created /etc/portage/profile and placed package.provided there. Worked like a charm. Thanks Zac. On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 12:53 -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > > Since "emerge -inject" is depreciated, the way to tell emerge that a > > package is already installed is to list it in package.provided. > > > > It seems there is some confusion as to where package.provided should be > > placed. The portage man page talks about /etc/make.profile/ but I have > > seen other documentation (I believe in the gentoo wiki) which says put > > in /etc/portage/. > > > > The problem is that emerge ignores it in /etc/portage and "an emerge > > sync" removes it from /etc/make.profile/. > > > > So the question is: Where should it be placed? > > >From the portage manpage: > > /etc/portage/profile/ > site-specific overrides of /etc/make.profile/ > > Zac -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Copy portage tree
I have one computer that currently does not have internet access. Can I copy a freshly sync'ed portage tree (/usr/portage/*) from another computer to this one? Or does the tree have some sort of per-computer dependencies (use-flags, etc.)? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Copy portage tree
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 22:59 +0100, Mike Williams wrote: > On Tuesday 28 June 2005 22:49, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > > I have one computer that currently does not have internet access. Can I > > copy a freshly sync'ed portage tree (/usr/portage/*) from another > > computer to this one? Or does the tree have some sort of per-computer > > dependencies (use-flags, etc.)? > > Copy away, tree is always the same. > You should run 'emerge metadata' after copying, to update/create the cache. > "emerge metadata" doesn't need internet access? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emerge Amarok
I recently switched to the KDE 3.4 split ebuilds but when I tried to emerge Amarok, it wnated to pull in several 3.3 packages: == These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1 +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid -debug +esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama 945 kB [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r9 +alsa +arts +cups -debug +doc +ipv6 -kdeenablefinal -kerberos +ldap +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama 15,257 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r3 +arts +cups -debug +java -kdeenablefinal +ldap +opengl +pam +samba +ssl -xinerama 19,526 kB [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.3.2 +alsa +arts -audiofile -cdparanoia -debug +encode +flac -kdeenablefinal +oggvorbis -speex +xine -xinerama 5,258 kB [ebuild N] media-sound/amarok-1.2.4 +arts -debug +flac +gstreamer +kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +mysql -noamazon +oggvorbis +opengl -visualization +xine -xinerama +xmms 5,875 kB I placed amarok in package.keywords so it would pull in the latest 1.2.4 version but that did't help. I don't see any particular USE flags that would cause this. None of the other apps wanted to do this and I really don't believe these 4 packages are necessary. How can I find out what is forcing this and prevent it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Amarok
Thanks, everyone. The problem turned out to be the ARTS USE flag. Turned it off and got 1.2.4 which is waht I wanted. Tony On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 02:12 -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > I recently switched to the KDE 3.4 split ebuilds but when I tried to > emerge Amarok, it wnated to pull in several 3.3 packages: > > == > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > [ebuild NS ] kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1 +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid > -debug +esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama > 945 kB > [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r9 +alsa +arts +cups -debug +doc > +ipv6 -kdeenablefinal -kerberos +ldap +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama 15,257 > kB > [ebuild N] kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r3 +arts +cups -debug +java > -kdeenablefinal +ldap +opengl +pam +samba +ssl -xinerama 19,526 kB > [ebuild N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.3.2 +alsa +arts -audiofile > -cdparanoia -debug +encode +flac -kdeenablefinal +oggvorbis -speex +xine > -xinerama 5,258 kB > [ebuild N] media-sound/amarok-1.2.4 +arts -debug +flac +gstreamer > +kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +mysql -noamazon +oggvorbis +opengl > -visualization +xine -xinerama +xmms 5,875 kB > > > I placed amarok in package.keywords so it would pull in the latest 1.2.4 > version but that did't help. I don't see any particular USE flags that > would cause this. None of the other apps wanted to do this and I really > don't believe these 4 packages are necessary. > > How can I find out what is forcing this and prevent it. > > Tony > -- > Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little > temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. >-- Benjamin Franklin > -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Big booboo!
Help! I inadvertantly deleted my /var/db/pkg directory (and indeed my entire /var (Don't ask!)). Is there ANY way to regenerate it or am I SOL? The system still works, just not emerge. If necessary I can rebuild and migrate the apps but I'm hopeing... Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unsubscription
Kelly Stewart wrote: > Can i please get some help unsubscribing from this mailing list please? > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Send a blank email (no subject necessary) to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That should do it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB
I've been looking at LiveUSB's lately, specifically ones for Gentoo. Found one on the Gentoo Documentation and another on Pendrive and several others. Problem is that all of these do not allow you to save changes. Has anyone made a persistent Gentoo LiveUSB? Google hasn't helped here. Most persistents seem to be Ubuntu and involve something called Casper. 2nd question: I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard install to it? Is it because until lately they haven't been large enough? I'm thinking of using an 8GB one. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 11 January 2008, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >> 2nd question: I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. >> Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard >> install to it? Is it because until lately they haven't been large >> enough? I'm thinking of using an 8GB one. >> > > There's a few reasons: > > 1. The memory used on those devices has a limited life - about 100,000 > writes for the good ones and maybe 10,000 for the bad ones. With a > standard install, frequent writes are the norm (think cache and other > similar things). This usually ends up at the same spot on the disk, > meaning your new install will last about a month if you are lucky. > There are ways around this, for instance how a LiveCD does things. > > 2. Booting off it is a pain. You need drivers for the entire USB stack > at boot time, which usually means a ginormous initrd. > > 3. Size, which you mentioned > > OK. Then maybe a better solution for a compact portable system would be an external HD. In the laptop size (2.5") the enclosure can just about fit in a shirt pocket. And some of them run off the USB interface. Not as small as a thumbdrive but close. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sending IMs from a script
Neil Bothwick wrote: > I would have thought this was easy, but I've looked around and can't find > a program that will send IMs from a script. I need to be able to send > alerts to people from a monitoring program. > > > An alternate way to send alerts is to send an email to their mobile phone. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64
I have an AMD 64x2 that I have been using only in x86 mode since I got it. I have been thinking of going to x86_64 mode but I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble with multilib, chroot'ing, firefox-bin and other compromises (admittedly some minor). I realize I should see some speed increase but probably only in certain areas such as compiling. So, for those users who have used both, is it worth it overall? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mozilla-sunbird problem
I have a problem with sunbird (app-office/mozilla-sunbird-0.7). I cannot set the start time of an event. I try to set it and it defaults to 08:30 and is unchangeable. No bug under BGO and no help from Google. Anyone else seen/have this problem? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Package removal error
While updating world and after emerging a new version of texinfo, I
received the following error when it tried to remove the old version:
==
sys-apps/texinfo
selected: 4.8-r5
protected: 4.11-r1
omitted: none
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
>>> Unmerging sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5...
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
syntax error near unexpected token `('
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
`done <<(get_mounts);'
*
* ERROR: sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1641: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* preprocess_ebuild_env || \
* die "error processing environment"
* The die message:
* error processing environment
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack
if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment'.
*
!!! FAILED prerm: 1
* The 'prerm' phase of the 'sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5' package has failed
* with exit value 1. The problem occurred while executing the ebuild
* located at '/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild'.
* If necessary, manually remove the ebuild in order to skip the execution
* of removal phases.
How do I handle this? I notice it recommends removing the ebuild but
how would that remove the old package? Should I just wait and re-sync
after a while, hoping they fix it. Nothing in BGO yet.
Tony
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Re: [gentoo-user] Package removal error
Albert Hopkins wrote:
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 17:10 -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
While updating world and after emerging a new version of texinfo, I
received the following error when it tried to remove the old version:
==
sys-apps/texinfo
selected: 4.8-r5
protected: 4.11-r1
omitted: none
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
>>> Unmerging sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5...
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
syntax error near unexpected token `('
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
`done <<(get_mounts);'
*
* ERROR: sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1641: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* preprocess_ebuild_env || \
* die "error processing environment"
* The die message:
* error processing environment
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack
if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment'.
*
!!! FAILED prerm: 1
* The 'prerm' phase of the 'sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5' package has failed
* with exit value 1. The problem occurred while executing the ebuild
* located at '/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild'.
* If necessary, manually remove the ebuild in order to skip the execution
* of removal phases.
How do I handle this? I notice it recommends removing the ebuild but
how would that remove the old package? Should I just wait and re-sync
after a while, hoping they fix it. Nothing in BGO yet.
Perhaps you could post the pkg_prerm function
in /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild or look at
it yourself so we'd know what it is doing and possibly find our why it's
failing.
-a
No such animal! Here is
/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild
=
# Copyright 1999-2006 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header:
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/texinfo/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild,v 1.3
2006/11/10 13:11:25 gustavoz Exp $
inherit flag-o-matic eutils toolchain-funcs
DESCRIPTION="The GNU info program and utilities"
HOMEPAGE="http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/";
SRC_URI="mirror://gnu/${PN}/${P}.tar.bz2"
LICENSE="GPL-2"
SLOT="0"
KEYWORDS="~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~m68k ~mips ~ppc ~ppc-macos
~ppc64 ~s390 ~sh sparc ~sparc-fbsd x86 ~x86-fbsd"
IUSE="nls build static"
RDEPEND="!build? ( >=sys-libs/ncurses-5.2-r2 )
!build? ( nls? ( virtual/libintl ) )"
DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
!build? ( nls? ( sys-devel/gettext ) )"
src_unpack() {
unpack ${A}
cd "${S}"
epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${P}-freebsd.patch
epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${P}-tempfile-owl.patch #114499
epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${P}-bounds-check.patch #140902
epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${P}-buf-overflow-CVE-2006-4810.patch #154316
cd doc
# Get the texinfo info page to have a proper name of texinfo.info
sed -i 's:setfilename texinfo:setfilename texinfo.info:' texinfo.txi
sed -i \
-e 's:INFO_DEPS = texinfo:INFO_DEPS = texinfo.info:' \
-e 's:texinfo\::texinfo.info\::' \
Makefile.in
}
src_compile() {
local myconf=
if ! use nls || use build ; then
myconf="--disable-nls"
fi
use static && append-ldflags -static
econf ${myconf} || die
# Cross-compile workaround #133429
if tc-is-cross-compiler ; then
emake -C tools || die "emake tools"
fi
# work around broken dependency's in info/Makefile.am #85540
emake -C lib || die "emake lib"
emake -C info makedoc || die "emake makedoc"
emake -C info doc.c || die "emake doc.c"
emake || die "emake"
}
src_install() {
if use build ; then
newbin util/ginstall-info install-info
dobin makeinfo/makeinfo util/{texi2dvi,texindex}
else
make DESTDIR="${D}" install || die "install failed"
dosbin ${FILESDIR}/mkinfodir
# tetex installs this guy #76812
has_version '"${D}"/usr/bin/texi2pdf
if
Re: [gentoo-user] Package removal error [solved]
Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
While updating world and after emerging a new version of texinfo, I
received the following error when it tried to remove the old version:
==
sys-apps/texinfo
selected: 4.8-r5
protected: 4.11-r1
omitted: none
>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal.
>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed.
>>> Unmerging sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5...
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
syntax error near unexpected token `('
/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment: line 256:
`done <<(get_mounts);'
*
* ERROR: sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 1641: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* preprocess_ebuild_env || \
* die "error processing environment"
* The die message:
* error processing environment
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/binpkgs/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/temp/environment'.
*
!!! FAILED prerm: 1
* The 'prerm' phase of the 'sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5' package has failed
* with exit value 1. The problem occurred while executing the ebuild
* located at '/var/db/pkg/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild'.
* If necessary, manually remove the ebuild in order to skip the execution
* of removal phases.
How do I handle this? I notice it recommends removing the ebuild but
how would that remove the old package? Should I just wait and re-sync
after a while, hoping they fix it. Nothing in BGO yet.
Tony
Found the solution on the forums:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-681785-highlight-texinfo.html?sid=d9c543c9712a9e6e0ab0e8b2c64d7386
Tony
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[gentoo-user] BASIC compilers/Interpreters?
Any BASIC compilers/Interpreters in Gentoo? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] BASIC compilers/Interpreters?
Dan Cowsill wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any BASIC compilers/Interpreters in Gentoo? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Dude. Google. First hit. I called myself google'ing (gentoo basic) but apparently not good enough. Maybe I need to google google. Thanks. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Question re: UUID
I have noticed in some distros (namely Ubuntu) that the fstab uses UUID's rather than /dev references. Is this a better way? Does it eliminate the problem of /dev references changing when another drive, i.e., an external USB drive, is plugged in? The /dev references may change but the UUID's in fstab wouldn't, would they? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Question re: UUID
Michael Schmarck wrote: · Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have noticed in some distros (namely Ubuntu) that the fstab uses UUID's rather than /dev references. Is this a better way? Does it eliminate the problem of /dev references changing when another drive, i.e., an external USB drive, is plugged in? The /dev references may change but the UUID's in fstab wouldn't, would they? Correct. UUIDs are universally unique (as the name already "suggests" *g*) and thus, there cannot be a clash. Michael Schmarck Any chance that GRUB will ever use these? I have a sata hd carrier and when I reboot with it plugged in, grub sees the disk order differently and gives me problems (I either have to get a grub command line and boot manually or use a Grub boot floppy). Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB w/ external drive (was UUID)
Josh Cepek wrote: Anthony E. Caudel wrote: Michael Schmarck wrote: · Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have noticed in some distros (namely Ubuntu) that the fstab uses UUID's rather than /dev references. Is this a better way? Does it eliminate the problem of /dev references changing when another drive, i.e., an external USB drive, is plugged in? The /dev references may change but the UUID's in fstab wouldn't, would they? Correct. UUIDs are universally unique (as the name already "suggests" *g*) and thus, there cannot be a clash. Michael Schmarck Any chance that GRUB will ever use these? I have a sata hd carrier and when I reboot with it plugged in, grub sees the disk order differently and gives me problems (I either have to get a grub command line and boot manually or use a Grub boot floppy). As long as your BIOS is passing off control to the correct drive when both are plugged in a boot, what about using GRUB's fallback feature? Say your bootable partition is normally (hd0,0), but with your external drive plugged in the proper partition becomes (hd1,0) instead. You can duplicate your GRUB config with (hd1,0) for the root entry and specify that as a fallback option. Then as long as GRUB gets control your system is still bootable. If the BIOS is trying to boot off the removable drive, I suppose you could install GRUB on it too with a similar setup, but that obviously doesn't scale well beyond a single computer with a known boot configuration. Interesting! This Fallback feature of GRUB bears investigation. Thanks. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] No mail from list
I haven't received any mail from the gentoo-user mailing list for 4 days now. Anyone else having problems with the list? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] sys-fs/fuse question
I use ntfs-3g to access my windows partition and ntfs-3g needs the fuse module. Does sys-fs/fuse need to be re-emerged (and thus re-compiled) after every kernel upgrade? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-fs/fuse question
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:49:28 -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: I use ntfs-3g to access my windows partition and ntfs-3g needs the fuse module. Does sys-fs/fuse need to be re-emerged (and thus re-compiled) after every kernel upgrade? Enable the in-kernel fuse module then sys-fs/fuse will only build the userspace files, not the module, so you won't need to recompile it. CONFIG_FUSE_FS=m Thanks Neil, that's what I was looking for. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Bibble Pro 4
Has anyone used the Linux version of the Bibble photo editing software? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Minor udev bug?
Just updated udev to 114 and it left me an einfo with the following: "You still have the directory /etc/dev.d on your system. This is no longer used by udev and can be removed." However I _DO NOT_ have an /etc/dev.d. Should I file a bug report on this? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Bash question
Is there any way to make "pushd" and "popd" (Bash built-ins) silent? As it is, when the execute, the directory is echoed to the output, making it difficult to use the commands in a script. For example: OLD_VER=$(pushd /boot; ls kernel-* | sort | head -1; popd) echo $OLD_VER /boot ~ kernel-2.6.22-gentoo-r2 ~ The /boot and the tildes are returned by pushd and popd and mess up the script. There doesn't seem to be any options to turn off the echo off and shopt has nothing in it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Bash question
Frank Gruellich wrote: > * Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 20. Sep 07: > >> Is there any way to make "pushd" and "popd" (Bash built-ins) silent? >> [snip] For example: >> >> OLD_VER=$(pushd /boot; ls kernel-* | sort | head -1; popd) >> echo $OLD_VER >> /boot ~ kernel-2.6.22-gentoo-r2 ~ >> > > For that exact example... why you bother at all? $( ) opens a subshell > and cd's in subshells don't interact with parent shell so you could > simply write: > > OLD_VER=$(cd /boot; ls kernel-* | sort | head -1) > > or > > OLD_VER=`cd /boot; ls kernel-* | sort | head -1` > > if you want to be more compatible. Or am I missing a point? > > HTH, kind regards, > Frank. > Thanks, Frank. That is the best solution. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the US). It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in the states. Will the DVD play in Mplayer? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Mplayer question
forgottenwizard wrote: > On 19:34 Thu 27 Sep , Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2007-09-27, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the >>> US). It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in >>> the states. >>> >>> Will the DVD play in Mplayer? >>> >> Dunno, but I expect so. >> >> I've played other-regioned PAL dvds in xine, so I see no reason >> why mplayer won't work as well. >> >> -- >> Grant Edwards grante Yow! Now, let's SEND OUT >> at for QUICHE!! >>visi.com >> >> -- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >> >> >> > > I would check mplayer's website for this kind of info. It should, but > that would give you a better idea. > > Checked the website and it seems to be totally DVD player dependent, something mplayer can't control. It did point to a program to change the region code however. Bummer, I had hoped mplayer had found a way around that problem. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] To Neil Bothwick: Question re ntfs-3g
Neil, back on 15 July, you stated that you used ntfs-3g with only the in-kernel fuse modules. When I try that, I get the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I find I have to use sys-fs/fuse to be able to mount ntfs-3g. Is there something else I should be doing? I'm using kernel 2.6.22 -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] To Neil Bothwick: Question re ntfs-3g
Neil Bothwick wrote: > Hello Iain Buchanan, > > >> hey, stop answering, this was to Neil! >> > > Hey! ! was asleep! :) > > As Alexander has already posted, you still need sys-fs/fuse to provide > the libraries, but it defers to the kernel for the modules (which saves > rebuilding it each time you change the kernel). > > > Ok, I had read it that I did _NOT_ need sys-fs/fuse. I will re-emerge fuse. Thanks all for your input. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Mplayer question
Nick wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 07:40:34AM +0200, Peter Gantner (nephros) wrote: > >> Thu, 27 Sep 2007 quidam 'Anthony E. Caudel' inquit ita: >> >> >>> Thinking about ordering a DVD from Amazon.uk (not available here in the >>> US). It is a region 2 DVD and is in PAL format unlike the NTSC here in >>> the states. >>> >>> Will the DVD play in Mplayer? >>> >> An alternative would be to get hold of a regionless firmware somewhere on >> the internet and flash the drive with that, but this is most likely illegal >> in your country under the DMCA. >> > > rpc1.org would be a good bet for the firmware route, which I'd > recommend (AFAIK breaking css is illegal under the dmca anyway, so > I can't see this as being a much bigger legal issue than playing any > encrypted DVD under Linux). IANAL, of course. If in doubt, move to > Finland. > > -Nick > > Can't find rpcl.org -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Weatherbug for linux
Weather has just released a beta app for linux. Check it out - http://linux.weatherbug.com/ Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Depclean question
I have just used depclean for the first time (I was afraid of it) after several years of Gentoo. It has cleaned up my system a good bit but now it wants to remove some packages that I'm concerned about: gcc-3.4.6-r2 (I'm using 4.1.2) libstdc++-v3-3.3.4 and virtual/libstdc++ virtual/jdk and virual/jre (it leaves the later versions in both cases) qt-4.1.4-r2 (leaving qt-3.3.8-r4) several early versions of db leaving db-4.5.20_p2 and a few others How much danger is there if I remove these? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Depclean question
Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > I have just used depclean for the first time (I was afraid of it) after > several years of Gentoo. It has cleaned up my system a good bit but now > it wants to remove some packages that I'm concerned about: > > gcc-3.4.6-r2 (I'm using 4.1.2) > libstdc++-v3-3.3.4 and virtual/libstdc++ > virtual/jdk and virual/jre (it leaves the later versions in both cases) > qt-4.1.4-r2 (leaving qt-3.3.8-r4) > several early versions of db leaving db-4.5.20_p2 > and a few others > > How much danger is there if I remove these? > > Tony > > Well, went ahead and finished --depclean. No more packages to remove and revdep-rebuild is happy. Ah! I feel like I just had a nice hot bath and I'm squeaky clean! I LOVE Gentoo... Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Question re desktop-file-utils
On several emerges I see the message " Install dev-util/desktop-file-utils, if you want to help to improve Gentoo." Can't really tell what this package does but how does it help Gentoo? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question re desktop-file-utils
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Friday 26 October 2007 22:19:23 Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >> On several emerges I see the message " >> >> Install dev-util/desktop-file-utils, if you want to help to improve >> Gentoo." >> >> Can't really tell what this package does but how does it help Gentoo? >> > > It validates .desktop files. If installed Gentoo uses this to print an elog > message for .desktop files that doesn't follow the specs. Obviously it only > helps Gentoo if you make sure it gets reported at bugs.gentoo.org whenever > you encounter messages about invalid .desktop entries in packages in the > tree... > > Okay, a good thing. Will install. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: How does kernel determine drive order?
How does the kernel (2.6.22) determine the order of SATA drives (sda, sdb, etc.) when it boots up? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How does kernel determine drive order?
Jarry wrote: > Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> How does the kernel (2.6.22) determine the order of SATA drives (sda, >> sdb, etc.) when it boots up? > > I just checked my computer, and sda is the drive plugged in > the first sata-port, and sdb the one in the second port > (according to the info in motherboard manual). > > Maybe it is something similar as with p-ata drives, where hda > is always the master drive on the first pata channel... > > Jarry For my mobo (Asus A8N-SLI Premium), sda is plugged into SATA slot 3. Interestingly, it is NOT the first drive listed in the BIOS either. I think, but not sure, that the kernel looks at the buses to determine the drive order. Maybe someone can confirm? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: How does kernel determine drive order?
Stroller wrote: > > On 5 Nov 2007, at 05:17, Jarry wrote: > >> Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >>> How does the kernel (2.6.22) determine the order of SATA drives (sda, >>> sdb, etc.) when it boots up? >> >> I just checked my computer, and sda is the drive plugged in >> the first sata-port, and sdb the one in the second port >> (according to the info in motherboard manual). >> >> Maybe it is something similar as with p-ata drives, where hda >> is always the master drive on the first pata channel... > > What he said. > > But if you're having a problem with it, or want to change the driver > order, then take a poke around in /etc/udev/rules.d/. > > Stroller. But would this be relevant? The kernel boot order is set at boot time, long before udev comes up. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Chroot question
I have an AMD64 chip and have separate Gentoo x86 and x86_64 distros. Gentoo has a "32Bit Chroot Guide for Gentoo/AMD64" but this guide only discusses setting up a separate 32bit environment within the 64bit Gentoo. I was wondering if it could be used, suitably modified, to chroot from my x86_64 bit distro to my x86 distro. Will it mess up one or the other? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Chroot question
Dan Farrell wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:33:15 -0600 > "Anthony E. Caudel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I have an AMD64 chip and have separate Gentoo x86 and x86_64 distros. >> Gentoo has a "32Bit Chroot Guide for Gentoo/AMD64" but this guide only >> discusses setting up a separate 32bit environment within the 64bit >> Gentoo. I was wondering if it could be used, suitably modified, to >> chroot from my x86_64 bit distro to my x86 distro. Will it mess up >> one or the other? >> > > No, they won't effect each other, but isn't this generally how a > multi-lib system is done? I read a howto years ago but got bored > halfway through, and since I didn't need it anyway, I gave up. > > Good point. I don't know the difference between chroot'ing and multilib (well, I know the difference but I don't the advantages/disadvantages of each). The reason I want to be able to chroot is that I want to be able run "make menuconfig" in each distro in order to view, side-by-side the configuration of the kernels. The x86 distro is my "production" distro but I want to configure and tune the x86_64 kernel to be as close to the x86 kernel as possible. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox mplayerplug-in problem
I used to be able to view Nasa-tv (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/) in Firefox with mplayerplug-in. This no longer works however. The plug-in starts to connect then says "Stopped" for any method (windows, realplayer, or quicktime) chosen. I feel that it is a changed use flag but I have the ones that I thought relevant. Here are my builds for for Firefox, mplayer, mplayerplug-in and win32codecs: [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11 USE="ipv6 java -bindist -debug -filepicker -gnome -mozdevelop -moznopango -restrict-javascript -xforms -xinerama -xprint" LINGUAS="-af -ar -be -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es -es_AR -es_ES -eu -fi -fr -fy -fy_NL -ga -ga_IE -gu -gu_IN -he -hu -it -ja -ka -ko -ku -lt -mk -mn -nb -nb_NO -nl -nn -nn_NO -pa -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -pt_PT -ro -ru -sk -sl -sv -sv_SE -tr -uk -zh -zh_CN -zh_TW" 36,633 kB [ebuild R ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_rc1_p20070824 USE="X a52 alsa dvd encode esd gif gtk iconv ipv6 jpeg mad mmx mp3 opengl oss png quicktime sdl sse sse2 truetype unicode vorbis win32codecs xv -3dnow -3dnowext -aac -aalib (-altivec) -amrnb -amrwb -arts -bidi -bindist -bl -cddb -cdio -cdparanoia -cpudetection -custom-cflags -dga -directfb -doc -dts -dv -dvb -enca -fbcon -ftp -ggi -ivtv -jack -joystick -libcaca -lirc -live -livecd -lzo -md5sum -mmxext -mp2 -musepack -nas -openal -pnm -pvr -radio -rar -real -rtc -samba -speex -srt -ssse3 -svga -teletext -tga -theora -tivo -v4l -v4l2 -vidix -x264 -xanim -xinerama -xvid -xvmc -zoran" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia -i810 -mga -s3virge -tdfx -vesa" 7,762 kB [ebuild R ] net-www/mplayerplug-in-3.45 USE="divx gtk nls quicktime realmedia wmp -gmedia (-mplayer-bin)" LINGUAS="en_US -da -de -es -fr -hu -it -ja -ko -nb -nl -pl -pt_BR -ru -se -zh_CN" 223 kB [ebuild R ] media-libs/win32codecs-20071007-r2 USE="real" 13,540 kB Does anyone have any suggestions? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox mplayerplug-in problem
Thufir wrote > Also, how were you generating that list, please? > > > > thanks, > > Thufir > > emerge -pv mplayer, for example. Then cut and paste. Would you please post yours so I can compare my USE flags to yours? Thank you, Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bookmarks invisible in Firefox fullscreen
Benno Schulenberg wrote: > When the bookmarks list is longer than what fits vertically on the > screen, then hitting Alt+B while Firefox is in fullscreen mode > won't show the list of bookmarks. The bookmark list is there -- > because it is possible to select for example the last entry with > and -- but it is invisible. (When not in fullscreen > mode, such an overlong bookmarks list shows tiny arrows at top and > bottom and will scroll as needed.) > > Is this invisibility just a local phenomenon, or are others "seeing" > this too? > > This is about Firefox-2.0.0.*. It is not the menu-killing bug of 1.* > -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318410 and friends. > > Benno > I see the same thing here. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox mplayerplug-in problem
Thufir wrote > You don't want my make.conf, do you? > > > > thanks, > > Thufir > > It might help. Thanks. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DTV on Laptop
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:38:41 + (UTC), James wrote: > > >> There seem to be several devices, based on USB2 that connect to >> a computer and can receive ATSC (HDTV) or traditional broadcasts. >> The ones I've found for N. America all require Vista (uck). >> > > I've used a Freecom USB DVB stick with Gentoo, it worked well but I > didn't try it with HDTV (because we don't have that here). > > > What is the quality of the picture with the Freecom? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
Neil Bothwick wrote: snip And OOo only takes 5½ hours to compile.. :p Not on my 1GHz G4 iBook, for which there are no binary packages available. It takes around 15 hours :( So when are the Openoffice people going to break it into separate packages (Write, Calc, etc.) like KDE did? This would get rid of that nonsense of 15 hrs for a single package build. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 30 January 2007 18:26, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: snip And OOo only takes 5½ hours to compile.. :p Not on my 1GHz G4 iBook, for which there are no binary packages available. It takes around 15 hours :( So when are the Openoffice people going to break it into separate packages (Write, Calc, etc.) like KDE did? This would get rid of that nonsense of 15 hrs for a single package build. haha, good joke, nice one, you just made my day. Oh wait, you mean you're serious? Erm, well, I once did have a peek into the OOo makefiles and what I saw there was scary. If no-one has had the courage so far to separate out the packages, I really wouldn't hold it against them. alan LOL! Hadn't realized it was that bad. Wonder who the culprit is? The original German group that wrote it or Sun when they got their hands on it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] System reporting information
Sorry that the subject is not very informative. I seem to remember some time back some discussion about a script or program that would examine a gentoo system and create a report on packages installed, make.conf contents, and other relevant information that might be of help to the devs. No personal info would be collected. Am I imagining this? Would this info be of help to the devs? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel randomly locking up, no error messeges, no panics nothing.
Ivan Lucian Aron wrote: > I turned off Preempt Big Kernel Lock earlier today, and haven't had a > deadlock/crash since. > Apparently that solved it.. thanks for the help/support I have an AMD Athlon 64X2 4200+ and Have the "Preempt Big Kernel Lock" turned on in my 2.6.19 kernel and have experienced no problems. Don't know if that helps or hurts but just thought I'd let you know. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] opening movies in the current mplayer window
Alex Fansky wrote: > Hello. > I am using kde-3.5.6 and gmplayer as frontend to mplayer 1.0rc1-4.1.2. When I > doubleclick on the video file, it is opened in new mplayer window. Is there > any ways to make it be played in already runned mplayer instead of previously > opened movie, like it do MS Windows video players? You might drag it to the open mplayer. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
Neil Bothwick wrote: > At around 300MB per kernel, that's ten excess kernels, so you can't be > doing it that often. Once you're happy with the current kernel, you only > need "emerge -P gentoo-sources" to remove the rest. I use a script that > removes all but the last two, and also cleans out /lib/modules and /boot. > Neil, any chance we could get that script? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What is the average age of the gentoo user here? > Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone �éí¢‹¬z¸ žÚ(¢¸&j)bž bst== I'm 64. Gentoo since 1999. I started with CP/M on a processor Technology SOL-20 in 1979 or 1980. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Any consequences to package.mask'ing newer kernels?
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:33:43 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>
At around 300MB per kernel, that's ten excess kernels, so you can't
be doing it that often. Once you're happy with the current kernel,
you only need "emerge -P gentoo-sources" to remove the rest. I use
a script that removes all but the last two, and also cleans
out /lib/modules and /boot.
>>> Neil, any chance we could get that script?
>> Provided you have gentoolkit something as simple as this works:
>>
>> # emerge -Cva $(equery -q list gentoo-sources | head -n -2)
>
> That only cleans out /usr/src, it's slightly different to what I use
> (which rm's the directories first to speed things up) but does basically
> the same. You also need to clear out /lib/modules and /boot with
>
> Here's the script I use, which is guaranteed to work when it doesn't
> fail. When it does break, you can keep the pieces.
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> # clean /lib/modules
> cd /lib/modules
> ls -1rt | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -fr
>
> # clean /boot
> grep --quiet /boot /etc/fstab && mount /boot -o remount,rw
>
> cd /boot
> ls -1rt config-* | head -n -2 | while read f; do
> bzip2 -9 $f
> mv $f.bz2 oldconfigs/
> done
>
> ls -1rt System.map-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f
> if [ -f vmlinux ]; then
> ls -1rt vmlinux-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f
> else
> ls -1rt vmlinuz-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f
> fi
>
> # clean /usr/src
> cd /usr/src
> ls -1drt linux-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -fr
> equery --quiet --nocolor list --duplicates gentoo-sources | awk '{print $1}'
> | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty emerge --unmerge &>/dev/null
>
> grep --quiet /boot /etc/fstab && mount /boot -o remount,ro
> # END
>
> The vmlinuz/vmlinux stuff is because I have a PPC system too, which calls the
> kernel vmlinux.
>
>
Thanks Neil.
Tony
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[gentoo-user] Dumb question
I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always wondered (but never asked - That's the "dumb" part) how Gentoo manages to update a package that happens to be running at the time. Given that the old version (the one running) is deleted, how does it manage to keep standing if you just cut its legs off? I've never seen this discussed anywhere which probably means everyone else already knows and are probably thinking to themselves, "Dumb question." Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Package dependencies
I have seen it mentioned here several times that "equery depends ..." is broken. Is there a good way to determine package dependency? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Package dependencies
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Wednesday 11 October 2006 06:13, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> I have seen it mentioned here several times that "equery depends ..." is >> broken. Is there a good way to determine package dependency? > > This shows all dependencies required for $pkg: > > # emerge -pve $pkg > > For an alternative you may have a look at app-portage/udept. > Maybe I meant reverse dependency. Not sure. I want to know what depends on a particular package so that I can decide whether I can delete it or not. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dumb question
Troy Curtis Jr wrote: > On 10/10/06, Anthony E. Caudel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have been using Gentoo for more than 2 years now and have always >> wondered (but never asked - That's the "dumb" part) how Gentoo manages >> to update a package that happens to be running at the time. >> >> Given that the old version (the one running) is deleted, how does it >> manage to keep standing if you just cut its legs off? >> >> I've never seen this discussed anywhere which probably means everyone >> else already knows and are probably thinking to themselves, "Dumb >> question." >> >> Tony >> -- >> Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary >> Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. >>-- Benjamin Franklin >> -- >> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> >> > > Simple and short answer is that at run-time the binary and libraries > are loaded into memory and run from there. When you do the update it > replaces the binary and/or libraries on disk, but you won't actually > be running those updates until you restart the process. There may be > other, more dynamic, cases that I am aware of, but that is the general > gist of it. > > Troy I suspected it might be memory. However I still find it difficult. If I'm running KDE for example, it requires at least kdelibs which is a lot to hold in memory. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Xorg upgrade
Just upgraded to xorg-x11-7.1. Definitely faster than 7.0. glxgears runs at just under 19,000FPS, an increase of about 12%. Fantastic! Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg upgrade
Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 17 October 2006 07:21, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: >> Just upgraded to xorg-x11-7.1. Definitely faster than 7.0. glxgears >> runs at just under 19,000FPS, an increase of about 12%. > > Hmm, mine comes up with this: > > $ glxgears > libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b > 2445 frames in 5.0 seconds = 488.874 FPS > 2443 frames in 5.0 seconds = 488.550 FPS > 2445 frames in 5.0 seconds = 488.946 FPS > > How can I fix this libGL warning? > Not sure, I've never seen that warning. What card do you have? Using the latest drivers? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Kweather panel applet: unable to set station
darren kirby wrote: > I have just moved and one thing I needed to do was update the weather station > for my panel applet. In the config dialogue I have two tabs: "Display" > and "Weather Service". I am able to select my new city in the "Available > stations" and even check the weather using "Update All", however, I can not > set this new station to be the one displayed on the panel. > > Even when I delete my old town from the "Weather Service" tab it remains in > the "Location" dropdown in the Display tab. After hitting "Defaults" a few > times, now I get only "Unknown Station" in the drop-down. There seems to be > no way to set the station to be displayed on the panel... > > The help docs don't seem to correspond to the actual software: > > "If you don't know the ICAO code for the airport nearest to you, you can > click > on the link labeled Lookup Your ICAO Code to use a web based search engine to > find it." > > I don't have such a link on mine, and there is no way (that I can find) to > edit the value in the "Location" drop down. > > Again from the docs: > > "right mouse button click on an empty space in the panel and choose > Add->Applet->KWeather > A configuration dialog will open up. Initially the only configuration > required > to make KWeather work is the ICAO location code:." > > When I do this no configuration starts up. I can use the menu to select > configuration, but this just leads to the same dialogue that I cannot do > anything from... > > Does anyone know what's up with this? > KDE is 3.5.5... > > -d Apparently a bug. Edit ~/.kde/share/config/weather_panelappletrc (after closing the applet) and set report_location= to your new city. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] (OT) Hotplug SATA drive?
I recently bought a third SATA drive and a carrier and am trying to determine if it can be un/plugged while hot. I have googled and there seems to be different answers depending on the controller, the drive, the kernel version (I'm using 2.6.18) and maybe even the day of the week. Does anyone have any answers or can point me to a place with some definitive answers? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Puzzling logwatch entry
I am using Logwatch (logwatch-7.3-r1) and lately have been getting these messages: - Kernel module scsi Begin **Unmatched Entries** SCSI subsystem initialized 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB) drive cache: write back 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB) drive cache: write back 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB) drive cache: write back 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB) drive cache: write back 2014992 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB) 2014992 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB) -- Kernel module scsi End - I have 2 SATA drives (320MB each) and am using kernel 2.6.18. Does anyone know what these messages mean? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] What to backup?
I'm using rsnapshot for backups and am very satisfied with it. However I'm uncertain just what to backup. Currently I'm backing up: /home/tony/ /etc/ /var/lib/mysql/ (for some databases) Is there anything else I should be backing up? I suspect there are some more things in /var that should be included. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What to backup?
Tom Martin wrote: > /var/lib/portage. You'll have your world file, in case you lose > everything, so you'll be able to rebuild your system with the same > packages. > Good idea. Thanks! -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Upgrade + gcc dilemma
Just got my laptop back up after having been down for awhile and it is in dire need of an upgrade. After syncing, a -uDvp world showed about 100 packages needing upgrading, one of which was gcc, from 3.3 to 3.4. I decided to do it first since most packages seemed dependent on it so headed over to the GCC migration guide and followed the instructions. I noticed that it said I might have some problems if I used the revdep-rebuild method so I decided to use the emerge -e method instead. Followed the instructions up to the point of issuing an emerge -e and then I realized it would rebuild the 100 packages that would then shortly be upgraded. Or if I did the upgrade first, the emerge -e would recompile the packages I had just upgraded. So, my problem is, how do I avoid the extra 100, unnecessary compiles? I tried "emerge --emptytree --upgrade -p" but it ignored the upgrade option so I can't combine them that way. Should I backup and use the revdep-rebuild method after the upgrade? Would it avoid compiling the packages just upgraded? I seems a possible solution would be to do the upgrade but save a list of the packages to be upgraded. Make a 2nd list of the packages to be recompiled with the --emptytree option. Remove the upgraded packages from the emptytree list and, using some command line involving xargs, recompile the remaining packages in the emptytree list. I apologize for any obtuseness and over-complexity here and I realize, that in the time spent asking the question, I probably could have had the compiles done by now. However the laptop runs hot and I want to avoid the extra stress on it. Any thoughts? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade + gcc dilemma
Richard Fish wrote: > # emerge -uav gcc > # gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 > # source /etc/profile > # emerge --oneshot -av libtool > # revdep-rebuild --library libstdc++.so.5 > # emerge -Duv world > > Watch out for a portage or python update though...and don't forget the > python-updater if there is a python update in there. > Thanks, Richard. Thats what I was looking for. I'll try the revdep-rebuild route. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Dell LCD display
I'm thinking about getting one of the Dell Widescreen Ultrasharp LCD displays. Has anyone used one under Gentoo (x86) and how good is it? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dell LCD display
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Which one are you looking at? I have the 2005FPW (the 20" > widescreen). I got a great deal on it by watching hot-deals.org > everyday until there was a sale and an Internet coupon. I upgraded > from a 19" nonflat CRT. The 2005FPW is the one I'm considering. Dell has 20% off til Jan 18. Question: Does the screen have a matt finish or glossy. I dislike that etched matt finish; I think it decreases the brightness and sharpness. > I certainly don't regret buying it at all. I'd just recommend > thinking through what kind of apps you regularly use, and how they'd > be affected running at 1680x1050. For me, the main thing I wanted > was the ability to run a terminal right next to Firefox without > resorting to a tiny resolution. And now I have that :) I have a LinuxCertified laptop with a 17" widescreen at 1680x1050. I like it and haven't noticed any problems. Sounds great! Thanks a lot. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list
Eugene Rosenzweig wrote: > Felipe Ribeiro wrote: > >> Where do I find the list with all installed packages? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Felipe > > this will list all installed packages: > equery list > > Eugene. > > find /var/db/pkg/ -mindepth 2 -maxdepth 2 -printf "%P\n" (much faster) -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts
Dale wrote:
> Can someone tell me where in the world this is stored? This is nuts. I
> couldn't change ISPs even if I wanted to since it works this way. I
> would have to reinstall looks like. That sounds like winders.
>
Try:
find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \;
This search all files for the search phrase.
I would search /etc, /var, and /home first using your password as the
search phrase. If no go, then vary the directories and search phrase.
Tony
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kppp and two different accounts
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:09:01 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
>
>
>>find -name '*' -exec fgrep -l \{\} \;
>>
>>This search all files for the search phrase.
>
>
> Using find with a separate call to grep for each seems a slow way to do
> things. What's wrong with fgrep -r ?
>
> fgrep -lr 'search phrase' directory
>
>
As it turns out, nothing! I was aware of fgrep but had never checked it
out. Is simpler and, it seems, a little faster than the find invocation.
Thanks Neil, time to modify my tips file.
Tony
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[gentoo-user] NTP problem
My system was off about 10 days and when I turned it back on, I began getting these messages in my logwatch: "Time Reset time stepped -0.133773 time stepped -0.662954 time stepped +0.271164 time stepped +0.461200 time stepped -0.787647 Time Reset 25 times (total: -1.239782 s average: -0.049591 s) **Unmatched Entries** synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3 synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4 synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4 synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3 Listening on interface wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.100#123 Listening on interface lo, 127.0.0.1#123 kernel time sync status 0040" I rebooted thinking it needed to stabilize but it still gets them. I have ntp-client and ntpd both in the "default" runlevel. This seems like an awful high number of resets. Much more than I used to get. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NTP problem
Brandon Enright wrote: > On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 01:32 -0600, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >>My system was off about 10 days and when I turned it back on, I began >>getting these messages in my logwatch: >> >>"Time Reset >> time stepped -0.133773 >> time stepped -0.662954 >> time stepped +0.271164 >> time stepped +0.461200 >> time stepped -0.787647 >> >> >> Time Reset 25 times (total: -1.239782 s average: -0.049591 s) >> >> **Unmatched Entries** >> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3 >> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4 >> >> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 4 >> synchronized to 80.35.31.228, stratum 3 >> Listening on interface wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 >> Listening on interface eth0, 192.168.1.100#123 >> Listening on interface lo, 127.0.0.1#123 >> kernel time sync status 0040" >> >>I rebooted thinking it needed to stabilize but it still gets them. I >>have ntp-client and ntpd both in the "default" runlevel. >> >>This seems like an awful high number of resets. Much more than I used >>to get. >> >>Tony > > > > Those are some pretty big jumps. What does "ntpq -c peers" and "ntpq -c > rv" output? Also, what are the first few lines (the restrict entries) > of your ntp.conf? > > Brandon > ntpq -c peers: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == *ntp3.usv.ro .PPS. 1 u 70 1024 377 203.0807.338 1.485 ntpq -rv: assID=0 status=06a4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 10 events, event_peer/strat_chg, version="ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Dec 8 09:35:31 CST 2005 (1)"?, processor="i686", system="Linux/2.6.15-gentoo-r1", leap=00, stratum=2, precision=-20, rootdelay=203.080, rootdispersion=34.319, peer=35268, refid=80.96.120.249, reftime=c7a69e5a.a3227d02 Wed, Feb 22 2006 2:24:58.637, poll=10, clock=0xc7a6a0b6.78a5bd94, state=4, offset=7.338, frequency=35.514, noise=2.162, jitter=0.891, stability=64.582 ntp.conf: restrict default nomodify nopeer restrict 127.0.0.1 Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] readline and inputrc
Harry Putnam wrote: > Anyone know why entries in ~/.inputrc (or for that matter) > /etc/inputrc are ignored in xterms? > > I find that inputrc entries work in console mode but not in X. > > Further, testing just now with a silly test entry: > > cat ~/.inputrc: > > ## C-x C-r reread init files > Control-o: "now what" > > That even in console mode I get really bad behavior. > > Ctrl-o inserts `now what' as expected but then I find that any > attempts thereafter to do some command like ls or whatever, when I > press instead of running the command `ls' I get > > `lsnow what' and the ls command doesn't fire any press of > prints `now what'. > > I'm guessing some kind of conflict with keyboard settings but mine are > totally stock. I've done no customizing in that area. > > I'd be interested to here what others see when they use ~/.inputrc. > > They work fine for me under KDE's konsole. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NTP problem
Brandon Enright wrote: > > So from your output a couple issues stick out. You're only peering with > one machine which generally doesn't work so well. You're probably > better off just using ntpdate periodically if you are only going to > sample one server. > > Also, the delay on the server you are polling is over 200 ms. I'm not > sure where ntp3.usv.ro is located but it is over 260ms for me too. With > this high network delay, slight network jitter can make your clock think > it is way off. Your machine thinks it is 7.3 ms off. If you had more > servers to peer with and *much* lower average delay between those > servers your clock would stabilize. As it stands now, you clock > probably won't ever stabilize because your network is the primary source > of uncertainty. > > For comparison, here is my ntpq -c rv output: > > assID=0 status=06f4 leap_none, sync_ntp, 15 events, > event_peer/strat_chg, > version="ntpd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 17 21:31:52 PDT 2005 (1)"?, > processor="i686", system="Linux/2.6.10-gentoo-r6", leap=00, stratum=2, > precision=-20, rootdelay=21.642, rootdispersion=41.662, peer=12542, > refid=132.249.20.88, > reftime=c7a70d4a.975935fc Wed, Feb 22 2006 16:18:18.591, poll=10, > clock=0xc7a70dc0.a5847f56, state=4, offset=-0.007, frequency=-31.438, > noise=1.052, jitter=2.529, stability=3.132 > > Notice my offset is pretty marginal and rootdelay is rather low. If you > can get your root delay down you should see your offset and stability > improve. > > Brandon > Well, overnight it only reset twice; - some improvement! Here is my complete ntp.conf: # NOTES: # - you should only have to update the server line below # - if you start getting lines like 'restrict' and 'fudge' #and you didnt add them, AND you run dhcpcd on your #network interfaces, be sure to add '-Y -N' to the #dhcpcd_ethX variables in /etc/conf.d/net # Name of the servers ntpd should sync with # Please respect the access policy as stated by the responsible person. #server ntp.example.tld iburst server pool.ntp.org ## # A list of available servers can be found here: # http://www.pool.ntp.org/ # http://www.pool.ntp.org/#use # A good way to get servers for your machine is: # netselect -s 3 pool.ntp.org ## # you should not need to modify the following paths driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift #server ntplocal.example.com prefer #server timeserver.example.org # Warning: Using default NTP settings will leave your NTP # server accessible to all hosts on the Internet. # If you want to deny all machines (including your own) # from accessing the NTP server, uncomment: #restrict default ignore # To deny other machines from changing the # configuration but allow localhost: restrict default nomodify nopeer restrict 127.0.0.1 # To allow machines within your network to synchronize # their clocks with your server, but ensure they are # not allowed to configure the server or used as peers # to synchronize against, uncomment this line. # #restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.255.0 nomodify nopeer notrap --- Notice I'm using pool.ntp.org. I thought that picked a random server. In any event, I restarted ntpd and it picked a different server. ntpq -c peers is now: -- remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == *Time2.Stupi.SE .PPS 1 u 33 64 177 159.568 -4.188 5.881 -- We'll see how this works out. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird
I have been trying to emerge mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 but without any success. It is masked ~M (hard masked?) and I have tried including it in /etc/portage/package.unmask as so: app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 But I get this error: !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "mozilla-sunbird-bin" have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword) # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Aug 2004) # Masking because this package is not ready for prime, but want it in # portage for better observation (and users are clamoring) - app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2.20050724 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword) I have also tried USE="~x86", again without any luck. Am I using the wrong syntax or is it something else. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird
Thanks Nagatoro, the combination did it. Tony Nagatoro wrote: > Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >> I have been trying to emerge mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 but without any >> success. It is masked ~M (hard masked?) and I have tried including it in >> /etc/portage/package.unmask as so: >> >> app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 >> >> But I get this error: >> >> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "mozilla-sunbird-bin" have been >> masked. >> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your >> request: >> - app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 >> keyword) >> # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Aug 2004) >> # Masking because this package is not ready for prime, but want it in >> # portage for better observation (and users are clamoring) >> >> - app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2.20050724 (masked by: >> package.mask, ~x86 keyword) >> >> I have also tried USE="~x86", again without any luck. Am I using the >> wrong syntax or is it something else. > > > You need to find the line in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask that > masks the app and the add that _exact_ line to > /etc/portage/package.unmask. > Since it's also ~x86 masked you need to add > "app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin ~x86" to /etc/portage/package.keywords > > -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] unmerge emacs
I was going to unmerge emacs ( I don't use it ) but was warned: !!! Trying to unmerge package(s) in system profile. 'app-editors/emacs' !!! This could be damaging to your system. What is my system profile? Is it my default profile: /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0? and why would emacs be in there. I looked in the files in there and did not find anything significant. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge emacs
Ah, the "profile" threw me. I was thinking profiles and not the emerge system I had done originally. I use nano so I guess I can unmerge it safely. But I'm still at a loss why the warning should come up. Emacs is not listed in base/packages nor linux-default/packages nor x86/packages and finally not in 2005.0/packages. I am correct in thinking these constitute "system," right. It also is not in my make.conf nor is it pulled in by any other package (emerge info does not list it as a USE flag). Tony Willie Wong wrote: >emacs provides virtual/editor > >The system profile is a set of programs that is necessary for your >computer to boot and build other programs. One of this things you need >to do to boot a computer is to edit the configuration files in /etc, >for that you need an editor. The system profile (you can see what it >brings in by "emerge --emptytree --pretend system") requires something >that satisfies virtual/editor, and by default I think gentoo uses >nano. If you have another editor, like nano, or vim, or pico, then you >should be fine to unmerge emacs. > >W > >On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 04:50:50PM -0500, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > > >>I was going to unmerge emacs ( I don't use it ) but was warned: >> >>!!! Trying to unmerge package(s) in system profile. 'app-editors/emacs' >>!!! This could be damaging to your system. >> >>What is my system profile? Is it my default profile: >> >>/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0? >> >>and why would emacs be in there. I looked in the files in there and did >>not find anything significant. >> >>Tony >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary >>Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. >> -- Benjamin Franklin >> >>-- >>gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list >> >> > > > -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
So holly, is arts absolutely necessary to get KDE system sounds? I installed KDE 3.4 without arts. Alsa does fine as does amarok, gaim, and several others _except_ KDE. I guess arts is the reason, huh? Tony Holly Bostick wrote: >John Jolet schreef: > > >>On Saturday 20 August 2005 14:31, Christoph Eckert wrote: >> >> >> >>>Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master >>>is open and PCM is unmuted and open. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>I have a question about that...using the in-kernel alsa drivers and I get >>sound fine with xmms under kde, but the system notification sounds are >>silent. I'm kinda mystified. >> >> > >If xmms plays, then your sound is obviously working. If KDE system >sounds are not playing, there could be 3 reasons that I can think of: > >1) arts (the kde sound server) is not enabled. You can check this in >kcontrol=>Sound and Multimedia=>Sound System; is the checkbox for >'enable sound system' checked? Is the correct sound system selected in >the 'Hardware' tab? It's not much use to tell KDE to pipe aRTs through >ESD if you don't have ESD running) > >2) system sounds are turned off. You can check this in kcontrol=>Sound >and Multimedia=>System Notifications. Is the checkbox and drop-down menu >to turn all sounds off perhaps enabled? Secondarily, try selecting an >event that has a sound attached. Does the 'Play sound' checkbox become >checked? If you test the sound using the little 'Play' button next to >the filename, can you hear it? > >3) KMix is set to override alsamixer settings on login, and it (KMix) is >muted (KMix does not use or refer to the alsamixer settings, but rather >its own. It's very annoying, and why I avoided it during my brief time >using KDE). This can be fixed by running KMix and either unmuting the >appropriate channels if muted, or setting KMix not to override the ALSA >mixer settings on startup, or by setting KMix not to start at all at login. > >Hope this helps, >Holly > > -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge emacs
Holly Bostick wrote: >Anthony E. Caudel schreef: > > >>Ah, the "profile" threw me. I was thinking profiles and not the emerge >>system I had done originally. >> >>I use nano so I guess I can unmerge it safely. But I'm still at a loss >>why the warning should come up. Emacs is not listed in base/packages >>nor linux-default/packages nor x86/packages and finally not in >>2005.0/packages. I am correct in thinking these constitute "system," >>right. It also is not in my make.conf nor is it pulled in by any other >>package (emerge info does not list it as a USE flag). >> >>Tony >> >> > >Did you check /etc/portage/package.use? Afaik, USE flags listed there >are not listed by emerge info, and that's the only other thing I can >think of; emacs must have been installed as a explicit dependency of a >particular system package (or sub-dependency of such). > > Nope, nothing relevant in package.use. Oh well, unmerged it and revdep-rebuild didn't complain so THWI. >You could also explicitly set "-emacs" in /etc/make.conf and see what >changes in an emerge -uaDNtv world (or system), which would not only >tell you why emacs is involved in this (I, for example, don't have it at >all, and I suppose our systems are basically similar), as well as >orphaning the dependency, so you could clean it out safely with a >depclean (or normally, without the warning). > >HTH, >Holly > > -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config
Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 11:48:14 +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: > > > >>>So holly, is arts absolutely necessary to get KDE system sounds? I >>>installed KDE 3.4 without arts. Alsa does fine as does amarok, gaim, >>>and several others _except_ KDE. I guess arts is the reason, huh? >>> >>> >>Yep. As long as a KDE application doesn't have an audio interface of >>its own, it uses arts for audio output. If arts isn't available, it >>will not be able to output sound. >> >> > >You can also configure KDE to use an external player for system sounds > >Control Centre -> Sound & Multimedia -> System Notifications -> Player Options > > This didn't work for me. Tried both aplay and alsaplayer. Neither helped. > > > -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] No keyboard module
I had been looking for a way to have KDE turn on numlock when it starts up but I just noticed I do not have a keyboard module under "Peripherals" in KDE's (3.4) Control Center. I re-emerged it but no go. Anybody else seen this behavior? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No keyboard module
Thanks Benno, that did it. Tony Benno Schulenberg wrote: >Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > > >>but I just noticed I do not have a keyboard module >>under "Peripherals" in KDE's (3.4) Control Center. >> >> > >If I remember correctly, you need to emerge kxkb... > >Indeed: searching the Gentoo forums for "KDE peripherals keyboard" >brings up this answer too. :) > >Benno > > -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why gentoo doesn't have long description?
Jonathan Nichols wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:57:09 -0300 Daniel da Veiga >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> | You know bud, read some rules, be polite. >> >> There are many who consider top posting to be just about the rudest >> thing you could possibly do on a mailing list. HTML email is worse, but >> not by much. >> > > It's too bad that even *gmail*, the paragon of geek email, encourages > top posting. :( > > And it's also the default setting in Thunderbird. I wish they'd change > that. As a matter of curiosity, why is top posting considered bad form. I'm using Thunderbird and when it views the mail, by default it is at the top. With bottom posting, I have to scroll down to view the post. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why gentoo doesn't have long description?
Jerry McBride wrote: > On Wednesday 24 August 2005 09:14 pm, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > >>Jonathan Nichols wrote: >> >>>Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:57:09 -0300 Daniel da Veiga >>>> >>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>| You know bud, read some rules, be polite. >>>> >>>>There are many who consider top posting to be just about the rudest >>>>thing you could possibly do on a mailing list. HTML email is worse, but >>>>not by much. >>> >>>It's too bad that even *gmail*, the paragon of geek email, encourages >>>top posting. :( >>> >>>And it's also the default setting in Thunderbird. I wish they'd change >>>that. >> >>As a matter of curiosity, why is top posting considered bad form. I'm >>using Thunderbird and when it views the mail, by default it is at the >>top. With bottom posting, I have to scroll down to view the post. >> > > > I with you, brother... > > > For me, top posting keeps me from having to wade through the entire message > to > get to the "new response" of the OP. > > I think most "linux nerds" (me included) distain top posting because it's the > default setting of some email app that runs on the windows OS > > > Jerry > > > > > Yes. However, I understand Hemmann and Nebinger's points. Makes sense in a way. But I don't usually start reading at the top. I usually will have already read previous comments and I just want to get to the latest. Too bad Thunderbird doesn't have a setting "Start_Read_At_Bottom" :-) Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo
C.Beamer wrote:
>
> You also need to install vim because you have to edit the /etc/sudoers
> file in order to add a user name. If you display the sudoers file ('cat
> sudoers') it will tell you that the file *must* be edited by the visudo
> command as root.
>
You do not need to install vim. sudo installs visudo but, at least in
my case, visudo uses nano which is my default editor.
Tony
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[gentoo-user] Cherry CyMotion Master Linux keyboard
Has anyone successfully used the CyMotion linux keyboard under Gentoo? How do you like it? Is it available in the US? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] list of all installed packages?
Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 13:17 +0200, Jarry wrote: > >>Sorry, for asking such a trivial question, but how can I find which >>packages have been emerged on my system? As time goes, I lost track >>of what I installed... > > # equery list > > Bye find /var/db/pkg/ -mindepth 2 -maxdepth 2 -printf "%P\n" is much faster. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cherry CyMotion Master Linux keyboard
Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > Has anyone successfully used the CyMotion linux keyboard under Gentoo? > How do you like it? Is it available in the US? Well, answered part of my own question. According to this: http://hardware.newsforge.com/hardware/05/08/25/1212253.shtml?tid=152 the keyboard will be available in the US this fall. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] German Wiki pages
Elsewhere I had asked a question regarding the Cherry CyMotion Master Linux keyboard. While researching it, I ran across a German Gentoo Wiki page on configuring the keyboard (http://de.gentoo-wiki.com/Cherry_CyMotion_Master_Linux). I noticed the page was not in the english Wiki (http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page). Is there any effort to synchronize the wiki pages? Would there be any problems if I translated the page and put it in the english version? Do I need to get someone's permission? Copyright issues? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Interface to Microsoft Keyboards (ala Intellitype) possible on Gentoo?
Mark Shields wrote: > I have a Microsoft natural multimedia keyboard and wish to use the extra > available keys (the multimedia keys mostly, volume up/down, pause, stop, > rewind/fast forward, mute). Are there any packages in portage that will > allow me to do this? Of course, if there isn't, a point in the > direction of a source for such a program would be appreciated. > > -- > - Mark Shields Take a look at lineak. -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: bash & decimal/exponential numbers math...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a short script for simple text file processing in bash > (using "<" for input redirection and "read"). I know, there are > Now what to do? Are there some functions, which would implement basic > math with real numbers in bash (add, substract, multiply, divide > and round would be enough)? > The idea of writing them myself really scares me... > > Jarry > Lots of way to do math from command line. Check out bc dc even python (echo "print (10E3-123)/123" | python -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CyMotion keyboards
Gary Richards wrote: > I think somebody on this list was looking for one of those new Cherry > CyMotion Linux keyboards. There's a new seller on eBay that has them. > http://cgi.ebay.com/Cherry-CyMotion-Master-Linux-Keyboard-Tuxs-Revenge_W0QQitemZ5834892820QQcategoryZ4706QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Just in case whoever that was is still interested...NFI YMMV > > -Gary R > That was me and still interested and thank you very much! Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System bell (again)
I wonder why I do not have a ~/.kde/share/config/kaccessrc file? Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi folks: SOLVED!! > > In my (user) home directory there is .kde/share/config/kaccessrc file. > The file has two sections: Bell and Mouse. > I modified the first two entries of Bell section like this: > > ArtsBell=true > SystemBell=true > > And now the system bell works for all users! > > I hope this can help! > > Bye > emilio > -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System bell (again)
I agree. I don't think I have changed any of the settings. Thanks Anno v. Hiemburg wrote: > Anthony E. Caudel wrote: > > >>I wonder why I do not have a ~/.kde/share/config/kaccessrc file? > > > Because you never changed your settings away from the system defaults? The > config files in the home directories only reflect the user settings that > differ from the system settings in /usr/kde/$VERSION/share/config. > > Anno. > > > -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
