Re: [gentoo-user] / is full

[Nick Rout]

On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 03:37 +, James wrote:
> I had not emerged a gentoo system for a while now / is filled up.
> 
> Looking for large files to remove, I found in /proc:
> 
> -r   1 root   root   1073672192 May 13 22:31 kcore
>  
> 
> I guess this is not a good file to remove?
> 
> Kernel images are only this big:
> -rw---  1 root root 2298699 Apr 30 00:17 kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r6B
> 
> 
> the kcore file is killing a 500 M partion.


bollocks, /proc is a figment of the kernel's imagination, a virtual
filesystem, it takes up no room on your hard drive.

cd /
du --max-depth=1|sort -n

keep drilling down to the biggest directories.

> 
> Ideas on what to do?
> 
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] SPAM reporting problem on server

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 21:07 +0200, Patrick wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem with forwarding spam of different users to one mailbox.
> All users get there mail delivered with procmail and it has following rule
> 
> #Spam controle voor andere mails
> :0fw 
> | spamc
> 
> :0
> * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
> !  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> when this mail arrives in that mail box i have this:
> X-Spam-Level: 
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,
>   DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_90_100,HTML_MESSAGE,
>   HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,NO_DNS_FOR_FROM autolearn=ham version=3.0.2-gr1
> 
> All the spam-level info is gone i have only the rewrited subject 

X-spam-level gives no more information than in the following line, it
prints as many * characters as the score in the next line, as your score
is -0.4 it prints no *'s

> 
> What can i do to keep this information ?
> 
> TIA
> Patrick
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Email reply generator

[Nick Rout]

some mua will allow you to use an external editor, and if that is an
arbitrary program then you can do your own. ie call a nice editor with a random 
bit inserted at the top.

perhaps.

On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:33:58 -0700
darren kirby wrote:

> quoth the Etaoin Shrdlu:
> > I know this is silly and OT, but after some googling seems to me that
> > nothing exists that does what I'm looking for.
> >
> > When you reply to an email, the MUA more or less automatically starts
> > your message with a short intro along the lines of "on %date, %author
> > wrote:" or something like that.
> >
> > Some degree of customization is possible, so many people modify the above
> > message in more or less humorous variants (eg, "on %date the world
> > stopped and listened as %author contributed the following to
> > humanity:").
> >
> > There are a lot of email signature generators (fortune, sigrot, etc.),
> > but I wasn't able to find an equivalent tool to generate these intros.
> >
> > Does somebody know if one exists? Or, alternatively, if some collection
> > of introductory phrases exists somewhere in Internet (I found none)?
> >
> > Yes, I know it's silly. Only, with the plenty of tools the opensource
> > world gives you, it just seems strange to me that nothing exists to do
> > such a simple job.
> >
> > Thanks
> 
> I am not sure it is possible, if so, I think it would depend on the MUA. For 
> instance, kmail allows you to use an external program to generate a sig, but 
> no such option exists for reply statement. You can change it, sure, but there 
> is no way to get an external program to change it dynamically.
> 
> This isn't to say it isn't possible, just that you need a MUA which will 
> allow 
> it.
> 
> -d
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> "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..."
> - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972

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Re: [gentoo-user] Acrobat Reader 7

[Nick Rout]

yeah thanks from me too.

this thread has alerted me to a problem i didn't know existed (as I had
js turned on) and has provided me with a fix.

sweet :-)

On Tue, 17 May 2005 21:27:46 +0100 (WEST)
Jorge Almeida wrote:

> On Tue, 17 May 2005, Nicolai Beuermann wrote:
> 
> > Just go to .adobe/Acrobat/7.0/JavaScripts
> > and transform glob.settings.js into a symbolic to /dev/null
> >
> > hope that helps
> It certainly does!
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild digest is complaining about no PF

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 17 May 2005 14:45:05 -0400
Calvin Spealman wrote:

> I'm trying to create an updated ebuild for treeline-0.12.0, to take
> advantage of the new install scripts it uses. I'm having a bit of
> trouble generating a digest, however, with ebuild digest. It is
> complaining that part of the name or the version is missing, and then
> that PF is null or "", and it bails. I don't know how I could have
> caused this, because I didn't even touch PF and its generated
> automatically anyway, right? I've included my modified script below.

1. what is the name of your ebuild file?
2. where is it on your system
3. what is PORTAGE_OVERLAY set to?


> 
> # Copyright 1999-2005 Gentoo Foundation
> # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
> 
> inherit eutils python
> 
> DESCRIPTION="TreeLine is a structured information storage program."
> HOMEPAGE="http://www.bellz.org/treeline/";
> 
> SRC_URI="http://www.bellz.org/treeline/${P}.tar.gz";
> LICENSE="GPL-2"
> SLOT="0"
> 
> KEYWORDS="~x86 ~ppc"
> IUSE="spell"
> 
> DEPEND="spell? ( || ( app-text/aspell app-text/ispell ) )
>   || ( dev-python/pyxml dev-libs/expat )
>   virtual/python dev-python/PyQt
>   >=x11-libs/qt-3.3.0-r1"
> 
> S=${WORKDIR}/TreeLine
> 
> src_compile() {
>   printf '#!/bin/sh\n\nexec python %s/treeline.py $*\n' \
>   /usr/lib/treeline > ${T}/treeline
> }
> 
> src_install() {
>   dodir /usr/lib/treeline /usr/share/icons/treeline
> 
>   install.py -p /usr
> }
> 
> pkg_postinst() {
>   python_mod_optimize /usr/lib/treeline
> }
> 
> pkg_postrm() {
>   python_mod_cleanup /usr/lib/treeline
> }
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo discrimination

[Nick Rout]

In our local  LUG (city in new zealand, 400k people plus hinterland,
about 250 on the mailing list and some of them are out of town) we have
a few gentoo zealots, and have run a few gentoo installfests. 

Often on the email list there are people saying "i can't get foo to work
on distro X because there is no package|the package is out of
date|library bar is too old unless I upgrade my system to version Y of
the distro.

And some of the people on the list do get sick of the gentooers replying
"oh just emerge foo and it just works"

There are the standard jokes about weeks to install the system, and the
constant fiddling that results. Comments about enormous downloads can be
easily met with "oh and how long did it take to download your fedora
cd's plus all the updates"

Most of it is pretty good natured though, and there are a good number of
"converts". I think like all proselyting, it pays to be balanced in
your advocacy and then people will respect you. OTOH try and sell
gentoo, or any other distro, as the ultimate solution for everyone and
people will quite rightly regard you as a nutter.


On Wed, 18 May 2005 16:21:03 -0700 Grant wrote:


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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone Know Why a New Kernel Would Kill Networking?

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 15:41 -0400, Michael Haan wrote:
> I didn't change any networking options, but it looks like networking
> it trying to use IPv6 after installing a new kernel.  Why, and how do
> I fix it?
> 

try /etc/rc.conf

it is well commented.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy

[Nick Rout]

perhaps if you continue to have problems you could give a more thorough
explanation of the symptoms.

Like, is the clock racing ahead or behind? Is it just set to the wrong
time on boot, but goes fine after it is set?

On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 11:03 -0700, rob3 wrote:
> David D. Rea wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said:
> >  
> >
> >>I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo
> >>problem, or what.   I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or
> >>has it now.
> >>
> >>I can't keep the clock on the right time.   This Dell 8600 Laptop has a
> >>brand new mobo in it.  So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead
> >>already.  Windoze shows the same behavior.
> >>
> >>Thanks,  Rob
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more
> >or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock
> >to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and
> >Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each
> >other??
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >  
> >
> I don't know.  Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see
> in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\
> 
> Thanks!  Rob
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Re: [gentoo-user] startx kde

[Nick Rout]

Read the Fine Manual

set the DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm line in /etc/rc.conf

then 

rc-update add xdm boot

/etc/init.d/xdm start


On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 19:09 -0700, cfk wrote:
> Thank you for the help on "keepwork". Next question.
> 
> My computer has spend the day emerging kde.
> 
> The function 'startx' does work with 'twm'.
> 
> So, I can test kde before changing /etc/X11/initrc/xinitrc from 'twm &' to 
> 'kde &", what is a good way to do that?
> 
> Charles
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Re: [gentoo-user] keeping source

[Nick Rout]

the source tarball is kept in /usr/portage/distfiles (in its tarred
release format). You can study the "raw" (as in unpatched ) source there
by untarring the source tarball.



as others have said, if you want to study the source with whatever
patches the ebuild has applied, use "FEATURES=keepwork"

On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 17:38 -0700, cfk wrote:
> Pardon the slightly naive question.
> 
> I would like to study the c and cpp source on the packages I am emerging. I 
> *think* they are removed after compilation. I say I *think* as I was looking 
> in /var/tmp/portage and /usr/portage and didnt find them.
> 
> How do I go about keeping the source for later reference of the various 
> packages that I emerge with gentoo.
> 
> Charles
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Re: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso image

[Nick Rout]

On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 13:11 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> I was under the impression that the iso filesystem is
> read only.  Of course, you could mount the iso on a
> loop and create a new iso from those files.

no you cannot, as it is read only, so once you have mounted it it is
still readonly.

You can however then copy it to a writable file system, make the
amendments and mkisofs it back to a new iso.



> 
> If I create an iso with mkisofs -udf then I am able to
> mount -t udf -o loop,rw but there is no extra space on
> the filesystem to add files.  I use mkudffs from the
> udftools package when I need a writable udf
> filesystem.
> 
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > You can mount the iso on a loop device and
> > manipuilate it there.
> > 
> > > 
> > > From: Sad Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 2005/05/20 Fri PM 04:01:59 EDT
> > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > > Subject: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso
> > image
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know of a linux based prog to add
> > files to an iso image?
> > > There are windows based ones but thats a route I'd
> > rather not go down.
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > -- 
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> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 
>   
> Yahoo! Mail
> Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:
> http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: driver CardBus bridge Texas Instruments PCI1211

[Nick Rout]

what does dmesg or the kernel logs tell you about the card?

is the pcmcia service started?

what does ifconfig -a tell you?

have you googled for what driver works with that card?

is the driver that google tells you compiled as a module with your
kernel?


On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 14:36 +0600, askar ... wrote:
> In the kernel I enables option for 'CardBus yenta-compatible' - this
> seems the one I was looking for. After recompilation the kernel I
> rebooted the system.
> 3 lamps of the PCMCIA card was on: 1) Power 2) Act and 2) Link
> The pcmcia card I use is Planex ENW-3503-TX. This is the 10Base-T card.
> The cardbus seems working - lights of power and act are on. When I
> connect LAN cable the light for Link also switches on.
> In /etc/conf.d/net I set IP address for eth0. 
> When I did # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start, it complains 'no such device
> ...unknown interface'. I think the driver need to be installed. In the
> kernel settings I don't see the driver for Planex ENW-3503-TX.
> Could anybody help me?
> 
> 
> askar
> 
> On 5/21/05, askar ... <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I want to enable/install driver in the kernel for the cardbus bridge
> > for Texas Instruments PCI1211 for my laptop.
> > In the kernel I don't see its driver.
> > I use gentoo 2005.0.
> > 
> > askar
> >
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo User Groups

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 21:33 -0700, Jonathan Nichols wrote:
> The thread about discrimination is a good one.. it made me think about 
> local user groups, as people have mentioned install-fests.
> 
> I did Google around for a bit but didn't really find a whole lot. I'm 
> right here in the Silicon Valley and figured that there would be at 
> least *one* floating around. :)
> 
> If there *isn't* one, would there be enough interest in creating one?
> 
> 

I am nowhere near silicon valley, but if you want tips on running a
gentoo installfest, let me know :-) (survivor of three, and still
learning)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy

[Nick Rout]

delete the contents of /etc/adjtime

this file contains data that the kernel uses to keep track of time, it
compensates for a slow/fast system clock tick. 


If this file gets stuffed up then the kernel over compensates for what
it perceives to be a way out clock, and all hell breaks loose.

So try clearing it out and see if that works better (it will be
re-written with something sensible sooner or later)


If On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 07:55 -0700, Rob wrote:
> rob3 wrote:
> > David D. Rea wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said:
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo
> >>>problem, or what.   I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or
> >>>has it now.
> >>>
> >>>I can't keep the clock on the right time.   This Dell 8600 Laptop has a
> >>>brand new mobo in it.  So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead
> >>>already.  Windoze shows the same behavior.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,  Rob
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>
> >>Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more
> >>or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock
> >>to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and
> >>Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each
> >>other??
> >>
> >>Dave
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> > 
> > I don't know.  Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see
> > in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\
> > 
> > Thanks!  Rob
> Hi !!
> 
> No, the hour changes and the minutes change.
> 
> Rob.
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Re: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso image

[Nick Rout]

On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 16:34 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> Nice bluff though.  I was hoping sombody added rw
> support to the iso9660 driver ;-)

iso9660 is a read only file system, so that seems unlikely!



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Re: [gentoo-user] startx kde

[Nick Rout]

On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 06:55 -0700, cfk wrote:
> On Friday 20 May 2005 22:55, Nick Rout wrote:
> > Read the Fine Manual
> 
> Which "Fine Manual" are we talking about here for kde and where might it be 
> found?
> 
> > set the DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm line in /etc/rc.conf
> >
> > then
> >
> > rc-update add xdm boot
> >
> > /etc/init.d/xdm start
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 19:09 -0700, cfk wrote:
> > > Thank you for the help on "keepwork". Next question.
> > >
> > > My computer has spend the day emerging kde.
> > >
> > > The function 'startx' does work with 'twm'.
> > >
> > > So, I can test kde before changing /etc/X11/initrc/xinitrc from 'twm &'
> > > to 'kde &", what is a good way to do that?
> > >
> > > Charles
> >
> > --
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> 
> I've set in /etc/rc.conf DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm and invoked 'rc-update add xdm 
> boot'. I have also created (in /root) an .xinitrc with startkde in it as 
> mentioned in a previous post last night.
> 
> When I reboot the computer, I now get a slightly different version of twm but 
> no kde.
> 
> I can invoke some kde programs such as kwrite, khexedit and all their widgets 
> are rendering, so I think I am very close, but not quite able to get kde to 
> startup in Gentoo yet.
> 
> Some suggestions on areas to look would be appreciated.


choose kde from the menu in kdm

> 
> Charles Krinke
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Re: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso image

[Nick Rout]

On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 18:00 +, Sad Jack wrote:

> 
> Thanks to eveyone who replied with suggestions.
> 
> I have been able to mount the iso on /mnt/loop and copy the files. I
> have added my file and created a new iso.
> 
> My difficulty now is to make it bootable. I have followed the link
> posted by Bill but the end bit about creating a bootable cd does not
> work for me.
> 
> I have looked through k3b trying to find an option for creating a
> bootable cd but cannot find one.
> 
> Can you offer any further help?
> 
> Thanks again. I've learnt a bit more but need another nudge!

you need the -b and -c parameters to mkisofs. for example the command
used to generate the isos for gentoo install cd's goes like this:

mkisofs -J -R -l -o ../gentoo.iso -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c
isolinux/boot.cat -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -z .

Notes:

1. I am not sure if you can specify this under k3b. mkisofs is used in
the background by k3b, but how these particular parameters are
referenced is unknown to me.

2. You need to figure out what mechanism is being used to boot the CD,
ie what files to pass to -b and -c. isolinux is a popular choice. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA drivers don't load - was Re: [gentoo-user] Soundcard not detected

[Nick Rout]

On Sun, 22 May 2005 13:48:44 -0400
Colin wrote:

> A. R. wrote:
> 
> >When you enabled your card in the ALSA kernel config, did you select
> >it as a module?
> >Can you find the module files in the following directory?
> >/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r9/kernel/sound
> >  
> >
> I tried compiling in Aureal Vortex support, but when that also didn't 
> work, I compiled it as a module.  I'd prefer to have it compiled into 
> the kernel, though.  Here's a little directory tree.
> 
> /lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r9/kernel/sound/
> core/
> ...seq/
> ..snd-seq-midi.ko
> ..snd-rawmidi.ko
> drivers/
> ...mpu401/
> ..snd-mpu401-uart.ko
> ..snd-mpu401.ko
> pci/
> ...ac97/
> .. snd-ac97-codec.ko
> ...au88x0/
> .. snd-au8820.ko
> 
> >(I has happened to me that add support for my card(s) as kernel
> >built-ins, and suddenly ALSA does not work)
> >  
> >
> All right, then I'll keep it as a module.

go back to your original message Colin! 

 When I went to run alsaconf, it said three times before the menu came 
up, "modinfo:  could not find module snd"  alsaconf seemed to work perfectly, 
and then it exited with a cheerful message.

looks like you are missing snd.ko. I am not sure where in the kernel
this is activated - perhaps you have it as a builtin instead of a module.




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Re: [gentoo-user] portage v. yum with regards to java

[Nick Rout]

what are you asking?

On Mon, 23 May 2005 02:12:43 +0100
THUFIR HAWAT wrote:

> what is about portage which allows
> <http://packagestest.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?sun-jdk-1.5.0.03>, which
> don't exist in yum?
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage v. yum with regards to java

[Nick Rout]

I thought so, but it wasn't very clear.  yum is not a packaging system,
it is a front end to a packaging system (rpm) [1]. It will work on a
number of different distros.

You need to ask each distro why it does not package a particular
program, or version thereof.

http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/
"Yum is an automatic updater and package installer/remover for rpm
systems. It automatically computes dependencies and figures out what
things should occur to install packages. It makes it easier to maintain
groups of machines without having to manually update each one using
rpm." 

On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:07:49 -0400 Mark Shields wrote:

> He's asking exactly that: why is a package in portage that's isn't
> allowed in yum, while both programs are 'repositories' of sorts.
> 
> I can't give you a factual answer, but I can give you a guess:  it's
> possible yum has different guidelines on including files, such as the
> sun-jdk you pointed out.  Licensing restrictions, maybe?  But no, that
> wouldn't make sense.  Or would it?
> 
> On 5/22/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > what are you asking?
> > 
> > On Mon, 23 May 2005 02:12:43 +0100
> > THUFIR HAWAT wrote:
> > 
> > > what is about portage which allows
> > > <http://packagestest.gentoo.org/ebuilds/?sun-jdk-1.5.0.03>, which
> > > don't exist in yum?
> > >
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Thufir
> > >
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> > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage v. yum with regards to java

[Nick Rout]

A recent linux journal article postulated that writing custom package
descriptions was easier in gentoo than in other packaging systems. ie it agreed 
with you that it is easier to write an ebuild than a rpm spec
file or the debian equivalent. I agree too, because it just is easier &
simpler IMHO. spec files are awful! 

On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:28:23 -0400 (EDT)
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

> My 2 cents worth.  I used RPM for a long time, went to Gentoo about three 
> years ago.  This year I had to start using FC2 and FC3.  I've been trying 
> to use apt-get and looked at yum.  Both of those made me appreciate how 
> good portage is and how many packages we have available.   Frankly both 
> apt-get and yum are essentially useless .  I found apt-get doesn't do 
> much with source except download it and then you have to do everything 
> yourself.  In addition it seemed like the packages apt-get could find were 
> limited - it's as if the repostiories aren't that great - and I had some 
> of the major ones listed. But whenever I wanted to get a package they 
> didn't have it!

To be fair, thats not the fault of apt-get or yum, its the fault of the
package repositories, or lack of content therein.

> 
> I used to write RPM spec files and put the packages together and believe 
> me Portage ebuilds are so nice!
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage v. yum with regards to java

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 23 May 2005 03:46:27 +0100
THUFIR HAWAT wrote:

> On 5/23/05, Mark Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> > I can't give you a factual answer, but I can give you a guess:  it's
> > possible yum has different guidelines on including files, such as 
> > the sun-jdk you pointed out.  Licensing restrictions, maybe?  But 
> > no, that wouldn't make sense.  Or would it?
> ...
> 
> there is sun/rpm bug at
> <http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do;:YfiG?bug_id=4680244>,
> and I'm sure there're more.  Thanks to Nick Rout pointing out that yum
> is a front end for rpm, I'll clarify my question:
> 
> due to that bug, which I probably should've mentioned in my first
> post, a JDK RPM doesn't exist (outside of JPackage).  What is emerge
> doing which allows it to bypass this bug?  if my facts are in error,
> please correct them.

If you want to find out how gentoo installs sun-jdk I suggest you read
the ebuild, I have had a quick look and it seems to use a .bin file from Sun, 
not an rpm. 

It also looks as though a bit of trickery is used to unpack the bin file. 

The ebuild will also tell you where gentoo installs the package, looks
to be in the /opt directory, so I guess the ebuild is not following the
LFS either.

Strictly this is a packaging bug, not a functional one - ie the sdk
works, its just that people don't like where it puts the files.

Basically I am not sure that it is a huge problem for gentoo. Thats
because gentoo is not distrbuting alternative binary packages, just
installing the Sun packages as it sees fit.
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Thufir
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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA drivers don't load - was Re: [gentoo-user] Soundcard not detected

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 23 May 2005 00:23:06 -0400
Colin wrote:

> Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> >go back to your original message Colin! 
> >
> > When I went to run alsaconf, it said three times before the menu 
> >came up, "modinfo:  could not find module snd"  alsaconf seemed to work 
> >perfectly, and then it exited with a cheerful message.
> >
> >looks like you are missing snd.ko. I am not sure where in the kernel
> >this is activated - perhaps you have it as a builtin instead of a module.
> >  
> >
> I compiled ALSA as a module instead.  That got rid of the above error, 
> but /etc/init.d/alsasound still spits out the same error, but loads a 
> few more modules:
> 
> * Loading ALSA modules...   [ ok ]
> *   Loading: snd-card-0...[ ok ]
> *   Loading: snd-seq-oss [ ok ]
> *   Loading: snd-pcm-oss [ ok ]
> *   Loading: snd-seq [ ok ]
> * ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers
> * Restoring Mixer Levels...   [ ok ]
> * No mixer config in /etc/asound.state, you have to unmute your card!   
> [ ok ]

What does lsmod say after all that? I'll compare it to a working config
and see what you might be missing !

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Re: [gentoo-user] portage v. yum with regards to java

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 08:33 +0100, THUFIR HAWAT wrote:
> On 5/23/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> > If you want to find out how gentoo installs sun-jdk I suggest you 
> > read the ebuild, I have had a quick look and it seems to use a 
> > .bin file from Sun, not an rpm.
> >
> > It also looks as though a bit of trickery is used to unpack the bin 
> > file.
> 
> if it's using the .bin which enables the ebuild to sidestep that bug
> then it doesn't follow that redhat, or whomever, couldn't put out an
> rpm using the same trickery.

Why? gentoo is not distributing sun-jdk. a binary rpm would be. read the
ebuild. read the license.


> 
> > The ebuild will also tell you where gentoo installs the package, 
> > looks to be in the /opt directory, so I guess the ebuild is not 
> > following the LFS either.
> ...
> 
> heh, that's ironic.
> 

why?

> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA drivers don't load - was Re: [gentoo-user] Soundcard not detected

[Nick Rout]

greOn Mon, 2005-05-23 at 00:52 -0400, Colin wrote:
> Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 23 May 2005 00:23:06 -0400
> >Colin wrote:
> >
> >>I compiled ALSA as a module instead.  That got rid of the above error, 
> >>but /etc/init.d/alsasound still spits out the same error, but loads a 
> >>few more modules:
> >>
> >>* Loading ALSA modules...   [ ok ]
> >>*   Loading: snd-card-0...[ ok ]
> >>*   Loading: snd-seq-oss [ ok ]
> >>*   Loading: snd-pcm-oss [ ok ]
> >>*   Loading: snd-seq [ ok ]
> >>* ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers
> >>* Restoring Mixer Levels...   [ ok ]
> >>* No mixer config in /etc/asound.state, you have to unmute your card!   
> >>[ ok ]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >What does lsmod say after all that? I'll compare it to a working config
> >and see what you might be missing !
> >  
> >
> Module  Size  Used by
> snd_mixer_oss   17856   0
> snd_seq_midi_event 6336   0
> snd_mpu401_uart6400   0
> snd_seq_device   6892   0
> bluetooth45124   0
> nvidia  3461628  12
> 

Like I said, like your original message said, you do not appear to have
the snd module.

try the following sommand, the result of mine follows:

$ grep -i snd /usr/src/linux/.config|egrep -v ^#

CONFIG_SND=m
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
CONFIG_SND_RAWMIDI=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY=m
CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
CONFIG_SND_MPU401_UART=m
CONFIG_SND_AC97_CODEC=m
CONFIG_SND_VIA82XX=m


Allow for the fact that my sound card is an ac97/via card, and tell us
what the difference is.

oh and here is my lsmod|grep snd

maybe don't worry about the midi stuff yet. You still seem to be missing
some.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] linux $ lsmod|grep snd
snd_pcm_oss53280  0
snd_mixer_oss  20096  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_oss35456  0
snd_seq_midi_event  8320  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq55312  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_via82xx28064  4
snd_ac97_codec 77432  1 snd_via82xx
snd_pcm95496  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer  26372  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 10116  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 8320  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi25888  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  8972  3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd58212  17
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device




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Re: [gentoo-user] only binaries

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 01:16 -0700, Steven Susbauer wrote:
> 
> Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 09:53:36AM +0200, Al Bayrouni wrote:
> > 
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>I like gentoo but I hate to pass hours (sometimes days) for installing 
> >>what I need.(celeron 2GH is not fast machine)
> >>
> >>So my question is:
> >>
> >>Is it possible to install only binaries (if they exist).
> >>
> >>Thank you very much
> >>Bayrouni.
> > 
> > 
> > What do you like Gentoo for then?
> > 
> Ease of administration? That's my main reason, it's always been pretty 
> straightforward.
> 
> I do not think that binaries are hosted anywhere, but I know that some 
> people have local binary repositories. There is the gentoo GRP if you're 
> just looking to get something up and running.

yes they are. chinstrap.alternating.net

they are NOT official gentoo releases.

> 
> In my case it's building newer packages for older hardware using a newer 
> machine...
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Re: [gentoo-user] portage v. yum with regards to java

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 12:12 +0100, THUFIR HAWAT wrote:
> On 5/23/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> > Why? gentoo is not distributing sun-jdk. a binary rpm would be. 
> > read the ebuild. read the license.
> 
> pardon, where's the ebuild?  I can't find it.  I can only infer that
> an rpm cannot be created from a .bin file while an ebuild can.

My understanding is that Sun do not allow their binaries to be
distributed in any other packages than the ones they distribute.
Therefore you are not allowed to make rpm's with the files arranged
differently.

Clear now?

> 
> > > > The ebuild will also tell you where gentoo installs the 
> > > > package,
> > > > looks to be in the /opt directory, so I guess the ebuild is not
> > > > following the LFS either.
> > > ...
> > >
> > > heh, that's ironic.
> > Why?
> 
> Sun doesn't follow the LFS, which create a problem for RPM's, which
> irritates me, sparking my interest in gentoo.  then, it turns out that
> gentoo, in turn, violates the LFS.  this is poignantly contrary to
> what was expected, hence, ironic.  bit lengthy, I suppose, but there
> it is.


Who cares?

> 
> -Thufir
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Re: [gentoo-user] VIA C3 Processor

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 24 May 2005 22:34:53 +0200
z3rosix wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 05:01:08PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 May 2005 14:46:37 +0200 (CEST) "Patrick Marquetecken"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | Is it possible / has anyone install Gentoo on a machine with this kind
> > | of processor ?
> > 
> > Should be fine. Just remember that it is *not* an i686, despite what the
> > marketing docs claim.
> >
> thats not true. The new C3 with the Nehemiah Core is an full i686 CPU
> with mmx und sse support.
> I installed nativly Gentoo Stage 1 on a MII-12000 and use it for as an
> VDR.
> It's true that u only have 1 PCI Slot, but i think the most cames on
> board with the mb, and if not there still exist the riesercards which
> mades 1 PCI to 2 PCI-Slot's ;-)
> 
There are different cores.

see http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags



> 
> greetz
> 
> alex
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Dual Boot

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 24 May 2005 19:52:14 -0400
AJ Spagnoletti wrote:

> I would like to set up my computer to use dual boot but I have run
> into some trouble. The hard drive setup is as follows
> 
> hda1 = windows Me
> hdb = linux
> 
> I have grub installed on hdb and would like my computer to boot from
> it. I have changed bios to boot from hdb(linux) instead of
> hda(windows) and gentoo boots without a problem. When I try to boot
> windows I get a black screen and this prints out
> 
> title=Windows ME
> rootnoverify (hd1,0)

here is your problem. hda1 is (hd0,0) in grubspeak, not (hd1,0)

> makeactive
> chainloader +1
> 
> After this prints out the boot just hangs.
> 
> Here is my grub.conf file
> 
> default 0
> timeout 30
> splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> 
> title=Windows ME
> rootnoverify (hd1,0)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
> 
> title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.11-r3
> root (hd0,0)
> kernel /kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r3 root=/dev/hda3
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> 
> A.J.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to keep a networkcard into 100mbit full duplex

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 24 May 2005 21:43:14 -0500
Nick Niemeyer wrote:

> Good Hardware is not the answer. Even with all Cisco equipment and high end 
> cards you will still eventually run into the problem of endless autosensing. 
> This is horrible for network performance. You need to push the card into 100 
> Full Duplex on startup either through ethtool or via a driver option. I 
> can't remember any more at the moment, I hope this helps.
> 
> Nick

modinfo is a good way of finding module parameters.


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Re: [gentoo-user] uuencode

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 24 May 2005 22:13:03 -0700
karly wrote:

> 
> Back in February David Corbin posted a question about which ebuild
> uuencode is in, and how he could find out in general which ebuild
> a particular binary might be located in.
> 
> I was loking for uuencode myself, which is how I found his
> unanswered post.  I found the answer to his first question, so I
> thought I would go ahead and post it.  uuencode is in app-arch/sharutil.
> 
> I found this out by googling and stumbling across it on a Debian
> page.  If someone has a more reliable way to find the answer, that
> would be great.

I often solve that problem by going to rpmfind.net, seatrching for
the binary name and noting the name of the rpm package.

(although I notice that this fails for uuencode )

> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] uuencode

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:50:59 -0500
Kyle England wrote:

> try:
> # equery belongs /usr/bin/uuencode
> 
> I haven't messed with equery much, but that seems to do the trick.
> equery is in the gentoolkit package.

not much good if you are trying to install uuencode but can't work out
which package it is in (which i think as the thrust of the question.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage... where dreams come from....

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 25 May 2005 18:56:06 -0400
Jerry McBride wrote:

> 
> Everytime I go to the portage tree, I find myself CONSTANTLY finding new gems 
> and thing-a-ma-bobs that make my linux time a fun time. 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> Jerry McBride

Is there an easy way to find out what new packages have been added after a 
sync? (other than backing up a package list and then diffing it?)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage... where dreams come from....

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, 26 May 2005 00:39:14 +0100
Neil Bothwick wrote:

> On Thu, 26 May 2005 11:12:46 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> > Is there an easy way to find out what new packages have been added
> > after a sync? (other than backing up a package list and then diffing
> > it?)
> 
> You can use esync instead of emerge sync. esync comes with esearch.
> 
> You can look at http://packages.gentoo.org, which shows the latest
> packages.
> 
> You can subscribe to the RSS feed from p.g.o.

no no no I don't want to be advised every time package x goes from
version y-r8 to version y-r9, and I know how to use esearch, and how to
ignore esearch in favour of the far superior eix.

What I am asking is how to out when a completely new package is added.

> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel building tools

[Nick Rout]

make help

and i thinks its oldconfig, not oldmenuconfig ?


On Thu, 26 May 2005 01:16:20 + (UTC)
James wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Is it OK to use 'make oldmenuconfig' to ensure that the options I had 
> selected in a 2.6.x kernel also are selected for the newer 2.6. kernel? 
> Isn't  'make oldmenuconfig' deprecated for 2.6 or does it still work?
> 
> Also I perviously used xconfig  (make xconfig) in lieu of make menuconfig,
> but I cannot seem to find anything other than menuconfig. Surely
> there is a nicer gui to use to build kernels and track options selected
> in various kernel builds than the ole standby 'make menuconfig'.
> 
> 
> ideas?
> 
> 
> James
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel building tools

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 02:34 +, James wrote:
> Nick Rout  rout.co.nz> writes:
> 
> 
> > make help
> > 
> > and i thinks its oldconfig, not oldmenuconfig ?
> 
> yep now I know it's past my bedtime
> 
> Any cool tools for building kernels?
> 
> menuconfig seems quite arcane..


make help lists the config tools

or try genkernel

> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel building tools

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 14:07 +, James wrote:
> Nick Rout  rout.co.nz> writes:
> 
> 
> > make help lists the config tools
> 
> Surely you jest?

no i wouldn't make the same suggestion twice to be ignored or make a
joke (LOL make joke ?)

you need to be in /usr/src/linux - and I think make help is a 2.6 thing,
not 2.4

> I was looing for gui based tools. And genkernel is not really what
> I'm looking for something like 'make xconfig' but xconfig does 
> not seem to be in portage. 


see above


> Mabey KDE has a kernel building 
> (GUI) tool?


yes, see under system admin in the kde control centre, however i have
been told this kde applet does not work well on gentoo. also on my
system it tells me that it does not support higher than 2.4.

if you read the output to make help you will find out how to start a qt
based kernel configurator. 

However both xconfig and gconfig give no more than menuconfig. If you
want to find JUST the new options, while keeping the old, then make
oldconfig is the only choice.


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> James
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub misfires?

[Nick Rout]

do you even get the grub prompt?

is there any error number?

On Thu, 26 May 2005 14:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
maxim wexler wrote:

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

[Nick Rout]

On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 10:55 +0600, askar ... wrote:
> The feature I mean is very useful when you delete, for example, spam
> email. When you epmty trash the appropriate message also will be
> deleted from the server, leaving the other not deleted mail.
> And when you check email from another PC, you can download the
> messages left in server whithout spam mail.
> 
> askar


are you talking imap or pop?


> 
> On 5/29/05, Taylor Morrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've used kmail before and it always has deleted it from the server.
> > You have to choose the option to delete it from the server when
> > downloaded though.
> > 
> > If you mean that you want to leave it on the server until it is
> > deleted from kmail, then I don't know.  I've never seen this in either
> > of the others you've mentioned either, though, so...
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

[Nick Rout]

On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 14:46 +0600, askar ... wrote:
> > > The feature I mean is very useful when you delete, for example, spam
> > > email. When you epmty trash the appropriate message also will be
> > > deleted from the server, leaving the other not deleted mail.
> > > And when you check email from another PC, you can download the
> > > messages left in server whithout spam mail.
> > >
> > > askar
> > 
> > 
> > are you talking imap or pop?
> > 
> POP.
> 

well it would have been helpful to say from the outset.

why are you leaving it on the server in the first place?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with new kernel

[Nick Rout]

try doing a diff between the .config files and see if anything leaps out 

On Sun, 29 May 2005 21:52:42 +0100
Kevin Philp wrote:

> I have been using a 2.6.7 kernel for months quite happily. Recently I
> decided to upgrade to 2.6.11-r9 but I am having problems. When booting
> it stalls with
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Need help setting up Gentoo to access digital camera

[Nick Rout]

Try the gphoto web site and you will see this staring you in the face:

http://www.gphoto.org/news/

in short support was added for your camera in 2.1.5. The latest gphoto2
in portage stable is 2.1.4, but 2.1.5 is in ~x86. I suggest you try
that, after searching bugs.gentoo.org for any major problems.

You can get a list of supported cameras with 

gphoto2 --list-cameras|grep -i argus, which on version 2.1.4 returns:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] movies $ gphoto2 --list-cameras|grep -i argus
"Argus DC-100"
"Argus DC-1500"
"Argus DC-1510"
"Argus DC-2000"
"Argus DC-2200"

Once you have 2.1.5 installed it should be a matter of plugging it in
and going:

mkdir pics
cd pics
gphoto2 -P   [1]

Alternatively, if it has memory cards (as opposed to its own built-in
non removable memory) you can buy a card reader - they are cehap and
solve all such problems.


[1] if you get permission problems there is a very good section in the
gphoto2 online docs about setting up USB to solve the problem.

http://www.gphoto.org/doc/manual/permissions-usb.html

On Sat, 28 May 2005 16:03:15 -0500
Michael Sullivan wrote:

> On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 14:39 -0600, Sarpy Sam wrote:
> > On 5/28/05, Uwe Klosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > You should go through the USB HOWTO and SUBMOUNT HOWTO. That is working
> > > great for me and all devices i connet via usb. The system will
> > > recognize your camera as a mass storage device.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you are using gphoto2 to access the camera you will not access it
> > like a usb mass storage device.  Read the man gphoto2 and you can use
> > it right on the command line real easy.
> > 
> > Kirby Walborn
> > 
> 
> I looked at the man page for gphoto2 and it said that I could try
> --auto-detect the camera.  I tried it:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> Model  Port
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> 
> Other than that, the man page didn't make much sense to me.  Is there
> anything else I can do?
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to delete messages from server in Kmail

[Nick Rout]

On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 17:18 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
> Nick Rout wrote:
> 
> >well it would have been helpful to say from the outset.
> >
> >why are you leaving it on the server in the first place?
> >  
> >
> 
> I can't speak for askar, but I leave mail on the POP server for a few
> days or until it is deleted from my inbox, so that I make sure I have a
> backup copy somewhere.  If my system dies and I have to do a recovery
> from a backup made 2 days ago, I will not lose any incoming messages.

Get an old pc and set it up as a mail server, then get it via imap from
there.

> 
> -Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Wave Cleaner question

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 01:12 -0400, Phil Sexton wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I just ran across the Gnome Wave Cleaner project:
> 
> http://gwc.sourceforge.net/
> 
> However, it isn't in portage AFAIK.
> 
> uilleann / # esearch gwc
> [ Results for search key : gwc ]
> [ Applications found : 1 ]
>  
> *  app-admin/gwcc
>   Latest version available: 0.9.6-r2
>   Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>   Size of downloaded files: 179 kB
>   Homepage:http://gwcc.sourceforge.net/
>   Description: GNOME Workstation Command Center
>   License: GPL-2
> 
> Is anyone on the list using it and any problems/hints if so?
> 
> It requires the OSS drivers and I get problems if I compile my kernel
> with OSS enabled in the kernel.  I haven't tried the drivers as a
> module.  Could that be worked around using a module?

what is wrong with alsa's oss emulation?

> 
> BTW, I haven't been able to download the tarball for it yet to even
> attempt to get it going.
> 
> TIA
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Getting PCMCIA to work

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 00:58:16 +0100
Digby Tarvin wrote:

> But when I try to run /etc/init.d/pcmcia start on gentoo I get
>   PCMCIA support detected.
>   Starting pcmcia...
>   cardmgr failed to start.  Make sure that you have PCMCIA
>   modules built or support compiled into the kernel

Theres a pretty telling error message. "cardmgr failed to start"


> 
> Also,  /proc/bus/pccard/drivers is empty.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Tablet PC's and Gentoo

[Nick Rout]

wide question, what features are you trying to support? and what make
and model?

On Tue, 31 May 2005 22:27:35 -0400
Colin wrote:

> Does Gentoo have any features that would allow it to work with a tablet 
> PC?  I'm assuming just installing touchscreen support into the kernel 
> would work.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When a dependancy built by hand

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 31 May 2005 22:22:29 -0500
Harry Putnam wrote:

> An
> example might be that if emacs isn't installed at /usr/local its
> already outside the standard emacs install.

and you have moved outside the standard gentoo install i suspect :)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When a dependancy built by hand

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 31 May 2005 22:25:42 -0500
Harry Putnam wrote:

> > While it would mean re-installing emacs, you could use the emacs-cvs
> > ebuild which builds emacs from cvs head. To keep up-to-date you just
> > have to re-emerge and you will build with the latest changes.
> 
> How can I get a look at what and how stuff gets installed without
> actually installing cvs-emacs?

read the ebuild!



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When a dependancy built by hand

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 31 May 2005 23:34:36 -0500
Harry Putnam wrote:

> Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, 31 May 2005 22:22:29 -0500
> > Harry Putnam wrote:
> >
> >> An
> >> example might be that if emacs isn't installed at /usr/local its
> >> already outside the standard emacs install.
> >
> > and you have moved outside the standard gentoo install i suspect :)
> 
> Not sure what your point is Nick.  I see the smiley so assume its a
> joke.  But of course I'm well outside gentoo standard by installing
> any packages from scratch.

Well i guess i am saying that although emacs (and much else) goes in
/usr/local, the gentoo standard seems to be to put it elsewhere. So I
guess you have to choose either the "emacs" standard or the "gentoo"
standard.

The smiley was to illustrate irony as much as anything else. Cheers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 21:04 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> I recently emerged mplayer but it got all blue... I don't know if this
> is right but it is almost impossible to see the buttons on it may I
> done something wrong ??? can I do something now ???
> 
> PS. Any skin is blue too .


mplayer does not have a skin. It is a command line program. you type

mplayer moviefile.avi

and it plays.

Are you referring to gmplayer that is a gtk front end?
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Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

[Nick Rout]

kimdaba is fantastic, and in portage

the database facilities of it are great, it gives the ability to quickly
and easily label your pics with arbitrary categories, name, location.
occasion, or anything else you choose.

Then you can pull up every photo with, for example, "nick" and "party"

(which of course will find nothing as I am really a quiet guy :)



On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 18:58 -0700, Grant wrote:
> What do you guys use to manage your digital photos?
> 
> - Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] SPAM trouble

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 15:13 +0200, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
> Everytime its spam, so I have put her address to the white list but
> this
> does not help.

I suspect you have screwed this up, as the whitelist adds -100 to the
score. 

you are putting it in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf, and its in the
format

whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer

[Nick Rout]

OK what ebuild is it in?

On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 10:44 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> I am Refering to MPlayer a front end aplication.
> 
> On 6/7/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 21:04 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> > > I recently emerged mplayer but it got all blue... I don't know if this
> > > is right but it is almost impossible to see the buttons on it may I
> > > done something wrong ??? can I do something now ???
> > >
> > > PS. Any skin is blue too .
> > 
> > 
> > mplayer does not have a skin. It is a command line program. you type
> > 
> > mplayer moviefile.avi
> > 
> > and it plays.
> > 
> > Are you referring to gmplayer that is a gtk front end?
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up a dhcp client?

[Nick Rout]

in the config file you can add parameters to the dhcp program, -d prints info 
about the connection.


On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:17:56 +0200
Claus Ladekjær Wilson wrote:

> 
> Problem is, that another version of gentoo (1.4) connects immediately where 
> as 
> my present version takes about one minute. So I really miss to know what is 
> wrong about my configuration! Hope somebody could give an advice!
> 
> 
> 
> Tirsdag den 7. juni 2005 19:29 skrev Jean Magnan de Bornier:
> > Le 07 juin à 17:26:48 Claus Ladekjær Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit 
> notamment:
> > > I run an ADSL-connection to connect to the internet and my ISP runs dhcp.
> > > It works but it takes about one minute to get my ip-address.
> > > Could I possibly see somewhere why it takes that long?
> > > I use /etc/init.d/eth.net start to connect.
> > > Is there another way?
> >
> > You might start it at boot with "rc-update add net.eth0 default"
> >
> > > Do I miss some configuration or is it normal to need waiting 1 minute for
> > > an ip-address?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > It certainly is longer than usual, but maybe it is due to your provider
> > hth,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Search gentoo documentation

[Nick Rout]

perhaps because you searched on ssmpt not ssmtp


On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 21:16:25 -0500
Anthony E. Caudel wrote:

> Is there any way to search the Gentoo docs?
> 
> I have tried google:
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?as_q=vixie-cron+ssmpt
> +mailbase&num=10&hl=en&btnG=Google
> +Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=lang_en&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=www.gentoo.org%2Fdoc&safe=images
> 
> (search www.gentoo.org/doc, in english, for the terms vixie-cron,
> mailbase, ssmtp)
> 
> but it returned no pages.
> 
> Tony
> -- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Application to capture Digital Video

[Nick Rout]

kino

good summary of its abilities here:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7779

(not sure if you need to be a subscriber, my browser logs me in
automatically)


On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:00:52 +1000
Richard Watson wrote:

> Hi - I have a PC with an IE13944 interface. Can anyone recommend an
> application to capture and edit Digital Video from a Sony Digital camcorder?
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[gentoo-user] never used to have to modprobe loop

[Nick Rout]

The first time I want to mount a loopback device (like an iso) after a
reboot I need to modprobe loop - it works consistently after that.

I am sure that I never used to have to do that modprobe, the module was loaded 
either on boot or automagically when needed. I am unsure when it
changed, but pretty sure it was at a kernel change.


present kernel is 2.6.11-gentoo-r2
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Re: [gentoo-user] Adding alias to /etc/conf.d/net

[Nick Rout]

try reading the file which has what you want commented in there.


On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:39:45 +0200 (CEST)
Patrick Marquetecken wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I want to add a alias for eth0 via /etc/conf.d/net.
> Because the machine is a part of a cluster the haertbeat software created
> also a eth0:0.
> 
> So how do i create a eth0:1 with ip 10.32.32.1 netmask 255.255.255.248 ?
> 
> TIA
> Patrick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to xdm/gdm?

[Nick Rout]

I wonder if this is more complex than it needs to be. 

How about getting X to run on bootup straight into mythfrontend.

a startup script might contain (eg via /etc/init.d/local)

su - mythtv -c startx

and ~mythtv/.xinitrc contains:

exec mythfrontend

Personally I am going to use the "power" button on my remote to trigger
/sbin/halt for turning off. 


On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:05:51 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:

> I found 'entrance' but there are too many ~x86 packages for my liking.
> Can anyone else recommend a graphical login manager that might have
> the ability to allow a user to shut the system down from the login
> screen? gdm wants to emerge pretty much all of gnome so I cannot use
> that. xdm seems so sparce and doesn't allow shutdown.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to xdm/gdm?

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:53:49 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:

> On 6/20/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I wonder if this is more complex than it needs to be.
> > 
> > How about getting X to run on bootup straight into mythfrontend.
> > 
> > a startup script might contain (eg via /etc/init.d/local)
> > 
> > su - mythtv -c startx
> > 
> > and ~mythtv/.xinitrc contains:
> > 
> > exec mythfrontend
> 
> I *think* this will work but the problem I was worried about, and
> granted xdm/gdm/whatever doesn't solve it, is that what happens when
> the user makes a mistake and exits mythfrontend. (Or mythfrontend
> crashes, etc.) Now I'm back at the command line somewhere (I think)
> but the machine doesn't have a keyboard. 

How are you logging in in the first place then? My aim is no keyboard,
just the remote, but it requires more work. For example my attempt to
use irrecord seems to have produced a lircd.conf which has a lot of
repeated entries, ie the same scan code for two or three buttons.

presently I am not recording tv, just playing downloaded movies/tv
programs etc. I do that from the command line over ssh from another box
in the same room. Messy, needs to be fixed, no one else can do it etc
etc.

>(I've been looking at
> autologin stuff) How does someone non computer literate get MythTV
> running again? Power cycle?

yes thats one way, but i guess there is the possibilty of running
mythfrontend out of inittab, so whenever it dies it respawns. However
then it would probably be starting too early in the boot sequence (or i
suspect so anyway)

also isn't it possible to set up mythtv so that you can't exit - except
with a kill command or the like?

> 
> Maybe there could be some sort of cron job that runs every so often
> and figures out if the frontend was running and then restarts it (or
> powers down safely) but I was hoping to not run cron on these frontend
> boxes and thus almost never spin up the hard drives.
> 
> I also wondered about setting up some sort of monitor on the backend
> machine that checks status on the frontend machines and takes some
> sort of action if mythfrontend isn't running.
> 
> Just a bunch of not so well formed ideas.

I have them all the time.

> 
> > 
> > Personally I am going to use the "power" button on my remote to trigger
> > /sbin/halt for turning off.
> 
> I like that. There's also a shutdown config option within
> mythtvfrontend that might help. I think that will require sudo which
> always messes with my mind when I try to write rules taht don't
> require password.

ahh i must look at the shutdown options in mythtv.

> 
> Thanks for the thoughts.

Its ok, I really must get a decent tuner card and start on the tv
recording.

> 
> - Mark
> > 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to xdm/gdm?

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 09:24 -0400, Matthew Cline wrote:
> Just thinking out loud here, but couldn't you launch myth from
> /etc/inittab with a "respawn" action?
> 
> 
> Matt

I'd suggested that too, but mythbackend must start first.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to xdm/gdm?

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:34:47 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:

> On 6/21/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 09:24 -0400, Matthew Cline wrote:
> > > Just thinking out loud here, but couldn't you launch myth from
> > > /etc/inittab with a "respawn" action?
> > >
> > >
> > > Matt
> > 
> > I'd suggested that too, but mythbackend must start first.
> > >
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> 
> On my systems, since they are frontend only, this might work but I
> don't know how to do it. Can someone point out basically how to try?

read /etc/inittab and man inittab


> 
> Also, what user account would be used if mythfrontend was started this
> way? Maybe that will be apparent when I get a clue about how to do
> this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I download the gentoo binary for Ximian Evolution 2?

[Nick Rout]

learn some manners huh?

others were able to answer graciously and accurately

On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 10:22 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
> Perhaps his answer isn't clear enough.  SOMEONE has to compile the
> source for Gentoo; to my knowledge, Portage doesn't store an
> pre-compiled binaries.  Read the wikipedia entry for Gentoo, which
> states: "Gentoo does not use binary packages as package management
> systems like RPM, instead employing a format known as the ebuild. The
> main difference between RPM files and ebuilds is that RPMs are
> precompiled binaries, whereas ebuilds are text files which contain a
> description of the software, and instructions on how to obtain,
> configure, compile, and install it. There are nearly
> nine-thousand-five-hundred ebuilds available; the majority of which
> are distributed by the Gentoo mirrors. New and updated ebuilds can be
> obtained by synchronizing the local ebuild repository with the
> mirrors. This is done by executing the command emerge --sync." 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo.  In short, you are not going to
> find an official binary packages for Gentoo, because there are none. 
> Now, you can have someone you know compile them for you on a
> compatible system, and that will work.
> 
> On 6/20/05, Hareesh Nagarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 6/19/05, Peter Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 10:28 -0700, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:
> > > > Where can I download the gentoo binary for Ximian Evolution 2 (x86
> > > > architecture)? I just can't seem to remember the name of the site.
> > 
> > > Gentoo is a source-based distribution. I believe your favorite download
> > > mirror should have package CDs with precompiled binaries but I don't
> > > know for certain. To install it from source is simple with Portage:
> > 
> > I know Gentoo is a source based distro and I've known it for the last
> > two years. I also know how to install a package using emerge. I asked
> > a different question. What was the point of this answer?
> > 
> > Hareesh
> > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] unsibscribe

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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:13:15 -0300
Daniel da Veiga wrote:

> Man, it isn't THAT hard to unsubscrive, its all on the site!
> I've seen so many people trying other misterious ways, when you just
> have to access the site, read a few lines and do it right.

you do not even need to access any web site, its in the header of every
list message:

List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Subscribe: 

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Re: [gentoo-user] text browser with frames and javascript that actually works

[Nick Rout]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:22:20 +0930
Iain Buchanan wrote:

> On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:23 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote:
> > Is there a working text console browser that can use frames and
> > javascript?  I am trying to access a dlink dsl modem setup page via
> > ssh'ing into a gentoo box behind it:
> 
> why don't you use ssh port forwarding? I do this all the time to get to
> the (internal only) web page of my router at home, which has a gentoo
> box behind it:
> 
> eg
> gentoo-home 192.168.1.2
> router-int  192.168.1.3
> router-ext  router.dyndns.org
> 
> from pc at work:
> ssh -L :192.168.1.3:80 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> (my router accepts ssh connections and forwards them to 192.168.1.2)
> 
> then, with the ssh open in the background, connect your graphical
> browser on your pc to localhost: and viola!

I just want to say thanks too!


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Re: [gentoo-user] lirc

[Nick Rout]

firstly is the module for lirc loaded? it is called lirc-serial

lsmod|grep lirc

second what device do you have as a result?

cd /dev
find|grep lirc

(it will probably be /dev/lirc0)

now assuming that is all ok try connecting to the device with one of the lirc 
command line programs:

mode2 -d /dev/lirc0

if you can get to there, and if the device is set correctly in 
/etc/conf.d/lircd, then it should be working.


On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:10:59 +0200
Luigi Pinna wrote:

> Alle 20:45, mercoledì 22 giugno 2005, Christoph Gysin ha scritto:
> > I had the same problem on my xbox a while ago.
> >
> > Either set in /etc/conf.d/lircd
> > LIRCD_OPTS="-d /dev/lirc0"
> >
> > or set a rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules
> > KERNEL="lirc0", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="lirc"
> >
> > Christoph
> 
> It doesn't work!
> Another way?
> Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] telnet into embedded devices

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:59:17 + (UTC)
James wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I often use telnet to connect to (embedded) devices on a local network,
> devices which do not support ssh. On both Debian and Gentoo systems I 
> just delete the default route out and set a second (sub)interface on 
> the ethernet port like this:
> 
> The default setting is obtained from the /etc/conf.d/netfile:
> iface_eth0="192.168.2.23 broadcast 192.168.2.255 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> 
> So I use these commands to set up an additional interface that
> matches the defauld class C (/24) network that the device manufacturer
> sets as a default. For example a device might be given 192.168.15.1:
> 
> route delete default
> ifconfig eth0:0 inet 192.168.15.23 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 
> 192.168.15.255
> 
> ifconfig yeilds:
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:F5:2B:CB:13
>   inet addr:192.168.2.23  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:590024 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:80894 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:4089 txqueuelen:1000
>   RX bytes:153811888 (146.6 Mb)  TX bytes:5882603 (5.6 Mb)
>   Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2000
> 
> eth0:0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:F5:2B:CB:13
>   inet addr:192.168.15.23  Bcast:192.168.15.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:590024 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:80894 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:4089 txqueuelen:1000
>   RX bytes:153811888 (146.6 Mb)  TX bytes:5882603 (5.6 Mb)
>   Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2000
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:2673 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:2673 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>   RX bytes:269579 (263.2 Kb)  TX bytes:269579 (263.2 Kb)
> 
> My actual question may or may not be related to the use of a sub interface.
> When I telnet into the devices from a similarly setup Debian system, I get
> a very fast response. When I telnet into the devices from a gentoo system,
> it takes 30-50s (estimate) for the login prompt response. It's almost as 
> those telnet is set up to use ssh, but times out and then defaults to 
> real telnet?
> 
> 1. If this is not what's happening, what is to cause telnet to react so 
> slowly?

probably dns - most servers do a reverse dns lookup when a client
connects, and if the lookup does not work the timeout can be quite
noticeably long.

> 
> 2. Regardless of what's happening, how to I fix?  When I use telnet, I
> want telnet, nice and fast, not ssh or any other protocol.
> 
> Ideas on how to fix telnet on Gentoo?

you don't need to if i am right.

> 
> James
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using TV

[Nick Rout]

assuming the tv card is /dev/video0 try:

lsof|grep /dev/video0

you may need to emerge lsof, and you will need to run it as root.

On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 08:33 +0200, Luigi Pinna wrote:
> Hello!
> I have a very strange problem.
> When I use the TV card (I use usually kdetv), I can see without problem.
> If I switch off kdetv and I wait sometimes (2 hours or more) in the same 
> session, and I try to use the TV card another time, I cannot use it: it 
> is busy and I can listen without the video.
> In this case, I must log off and log in and after all works.
> How can I see which process uses my card and how can I remove it?
> Thanks,
> Luigi
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here running MythTV (frontend only?)

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 00:08 -0400, Justin Hart wrote:
> > Oh, I see your question. I asked this myself a few months ago. Yes -
> > it does assume thee's a backend somewhere on the network, but
> > apparently you have to have MySQL on the frontend machine also to be
> > able to send MySQL commands to the backend. All the 'frontendonly' USE
> > flag does (I think - I've never read the ebuild) is to not build the
> > actual backend code. It still requires MySQL be installed because it
> > assumes you will talk to a MySQL based backend.
> > 
> 
> That wasn't his question.  We wants to play video, but not record
> video.  He wants to run the frontend with no backend anywhere.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that mythtv doesn't work at all without the backend
> (as in, there is no backend present on the network at all). 

in point of fact there must be a mysql server to connect to somewhere on
the network. mysql stores the frontend settings. AFAIK you do not
actually need the backend running, but you do need the mysql server
running.

Now back to the point, did the OP set the directory where his video
files reside in the mythtv setup? 






>  I haven't
> hacked around in the code though, so didn't want to say this without
> *knowing,* but I haven't heard of a configuration without the backend.
> 
> Justin
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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here running MythTV (frontend only?)

[Nick Rout]

On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:30:18 +0800
Ow Mun Heng wrote:

> 
> > Now back to the point, did the OP set the directory where his video
> > files reside in the mythtv setup? 
> 
> Yeah.. I set it up but unfortunately the browser doesn't recognise any
> of the files. I'm not sure why. 

you perhaps need to go into the mythvideo setup and get it to scan for
video files.

Not quite sure where it is, i find the myth menu system a little
confusing, but you end up with a menu called "set up videos" or
something like that. I think in there somewhere it scans for the files
in your video directory and loads them into the database. 

if you want to see what the database has in it about your videos then
connect to mysql and use the following:

CONNECT mythconverg;
SELECT * FROM videometadata;



If you want pretty pictures, plot summaries etc, you then have a bit of
work to do. Hint: the system searches for the movie on imdb according to
the filename. so it will probably find the right imdb entry if you have
a file called incredibles.avi, but it will choke on
the.incredibles.xvid.hackersite.dvdrip.avi. You can either rename your
files to sensible names, or have another box handy with a web browser so
you can manually search imdb.com and get the movie number. eg the
incredibles movie page is:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317705/

so the number that mythvideo wants in order to retrieve all the pretty
info is 01317705

for further info on how it parses the imdb site find the imdb.pl script
that mythvideo installed and take a look. It should be
/usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl

Mythvideo calls the script to find the movie. If it cannot decide from
several possibilities  it offers a list of possibles, and you choose the
right one. Once it has the right one it downloads lovely info and a
poster to display on your screen for that movie.

If it cannot find any possibilities it asks you for the imdb number.

heres a screenie that explains itt better than me:

http://mythtv.sourceforge.net/mc/mythvideo3.png


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl --help
/usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl version [unknown] calling
Getopt::St d::getopts (version 1.05 [paranoid]), running under Perl
version 5.8.5.

Usage: imdb.pl [-OPTIONS [-MORE_OPTIONS]] [--] [PROGRAM_ARG1 ...]

The following single-character options are accepted:
Boolean (without arguments): -o -h -r -d -i -v -D -M -P

Options may be merged together.  -- stops processing of options.
  [Now continuing due to backward compatibility and excessive paranoia.
   See ``perldoc Getopt::Std'' about $Getopt::Std::STANDARD_HELP_VERSION.]
IMDB Query (v1.2) by Tim Harvey, Andrei Rjeousski
Performs queries using the www.imdb.com website.
usage: /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/imdb.pl -hdrviMPD [parameters]
   -h   help
   -d   debug
   -r   dump raw query result data only
   -v   display version
   -i   display info

   -M [options] get movie list
   some known options are:
  type=[fuzy] looser search
  from_year=[int] limit matches to year
  to_year=[int]   limit matches to year
  sort=[smart]??
  tv=[no|both|only]   limits between tv and movies
   Note: multiple options must be separated by ';'
   -P   get movie poster
   -D   get movie data


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Re: [gentoo-user] Potential Supid question re Grep

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On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:54:46 +0200
Richard Fish wrote:

> Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
> >I am trying to extract information in my logs for a abuse department and am 
> >using the code:
> >
> >Code:
> >
> >zcat /var/log/messages.*?.gz | grep 212.56.68.108 >> /home/mike/abuse1
> >
> >The logs are standard: messages.??.gz
> >
> >However, when I examine the output, it starts on the 1st may, however the 
> >logs 
> >contain details from the 25th Febuary. What am I doing wrong?
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> Are you *sure* the February information is not there??  I think this
> probably has nothing to do with the grep command, but more with the
> shell expansion.  When I do "ls -l /var/log/messages.*?.gz", I get the
> following:
> 
> -rw---  1 root root 696588 Feb 21 09:00 /var/log/messages.1.gz
> -rw---  1 root root 795675 Feb 14 15:40 /var/log/messages.2.gz
> -rw---  1 root root 491964 Feb  6 19:00 /var/log/messages.3.gz
> -rw---  1 root root 482189 Jan 31 05:10 /var/log/messages.4.gz
> 
> Notice that the dates are in reverse order.  If I were to cat those
> together, the oldest information would be at the end.  I think you want:
> 
> zcat `ls -rt /var/log/messages.*?.gz` | grep 212.56.68.108 >>
> /home/mike/abuse1


another potential problem is that if you have 10 or more rotated log
files you will get them in the order:

/var/log/messages.1.gz
/var/log/messages.10.gz
/var/log/messages.2.gz



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> -Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer is blue!

[Nick Rout]

copied from the earlier thread:

> > * Patrick Marquetecken
> >> Whatever skin i uses the mplayer gui always looks bue.
> >> Is this normal ?
> >
> > I had this problem a while ago
> > (http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6) and my "solution" was
> > to emerge it with USE="mmx mmx2".
> >
> > However, that won't do it for the amd64-folks :/ It'd be interesting
> > if someone was able to close this bug properly, i.e. find out what the
> > real cause is.
> >
> > --
> > Steingrim Dovland. Oslo, Norway.
> > This behaviour is by design.
> Well the solution was good enough for me
> 
> Thanks
> Patrick


On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:02:50 -0500
Michael Sullivan wrote:

> My gmplayer screen (using the X11/Xv video driver (which is the only
> driver that provides adequate full-screen performance)) is showing blue.
> The movie's sound comes through, but no picture - just that blue screen.
> I seem to remember someone had this same problem several months ago, but
> I cannot seem to find the thread in the archives at gmane.org.  Can
> anyone help me?
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Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer is blue!

[Nick Rout]

what happens when you use mplayer (as opposed to gmplayer)?


On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 16:02:50 -0500
Michael Sullivan wrote:

> My gmplayer screen (using the X11/Xv video driver (which is the only
> driver that provides adequate full-screen performance)) is showing blue.
> The movie's sound comes through, but no picture - just that blue screen.
> I seem to remember someone had this same problem several months ago, but
> I cannot seem to find the thread in the archives at gmane.org.  Can
> anyone help me?
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Re: [gentoo-user] New MySQL doc

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:20:50 -0400
Dave Nebinger wrote:

> As far as the gentoo-specific stuff, there's no mention of how to
> MySQL-enable other packages, no mention of why you would want to do the
> "ebuild ... config" step and not the simpler "emerge mysql", ...

emerge mysql does not do ebuild  config. 

the config step only needs to be carried out the very first time mysql
is emerged. Thats why the instructions that appear at the end of the
emerge say:

"You might want to run:
"ebuild /var/db/pkg/dev-db/mysql-4.0.24-r1/mysql-4.0.24-r1.ebuild config"
IF THIS IS A NEW INSTALL." (my emphasis added)

Yes it might be wise to add in something about adding the mysql USE
flag, either globally or per package, to get mysql functionality into
other packages.

As for your other question (why is it needed?) - I guess for me this is
the simplest and most to the point exposition of setting up mysql I have
found. The forums and mailing list seem to reveal that the steps of
setting initial databases and permissions is one where newbies have some
difficulties. I like it. 

I am often referring non gentoo users to the fine gentoo documentation.
Keep it coming.



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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]Throttling/Restricting download speeds

[Nick Rout]

wget has a throttling option --limit-rate

how about :

1. keep a file containing the urls of the files you want to download. 
(dllist)

2. start them at whatever time like:

wget --limit-rate=5k -i dllist

3. use at to run a script at 2.00 am which kills wget and restarts it
with no limit-rate option, the -c flag (to continue downloads) and the
same file list.


On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:46:23 -0400
agl wrote:

> Hi all,
> Here in Australia the internet access plan I have is capped at 12GB
> downloads/month during "peak" hours and then an additional 24GB/month during
> "offpeak" hours, ie 2am - 9am. Rather than sit up until 2am to kick off a
> download, I was wondering if it was possible to somehow throttle a connection,
> or even a port, so that I could kick off the down load at say 11pm with the
> connection throttled to only a few KB/s and then at say 2am, a cron job will
> unthrottle it back to its full speed hence making most use of the offpeak 
> time.
> I'm currently using gshield on top of iptables as my firewall.
> 
>   Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>     Andrew
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Re: [gentoo-user] Resizing ext3 and burning cds...

[Nick Rout]

It would be worth checking permissions & ownership on the cd writer
device.

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:49:17 -0300
Bruno Gola wrote:

> About the cd-writer, ive tried with cdrecord (command line) but, it
> stills stop.. i dont know what could it be.. any idea?
> 
> I will reply after the e2fsck finish ... thanks again

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage

[Nick Rout]

have you tried using k3bsetup?


On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:36:44 + (UTC)
James wrote:

> Daniel da Veiga  gmail.com> writes:
> 
> 
> > Ok, you're right, it really does burn cds.
> Well googling produces lots of complaints about trouble. But
> it looks mostly like old windows stuff...
> 
> > So, you're still not able to burn them? Try erasing an RW or writting
> > an RW (so you don't spent cds). You should be able to do that with
> > k3b, unless you already have mounted the cd (the erase and burn
> > operations don't need the drive mounted) but I suppose that would echo
> > an error.
> 
> I'm using a brand new rw cd. I tried copying 2 .wav files to the cd.
> Here's the messages echoed to the K3b screen:
>  Using cdrecored 2.1
>   Starting dao writing at 24x speed...
> Medium  or burner do not support writing at 24x speed
> Switching down burn speed to 4x
> Starting in 2 seconds
> Starting in 1 second
> Writing canceled. 
> Removing buffer files
> Unlocking drive...
> Could not unlock CD drive.
> 
> > You don't need anything special on your kernel to burn cds. At least I
> > have nothing special on mine. K3b does it all for me.
> 
> OK, Maybe my use parameters are missing something?
> 
> emerge -Nvp k3b  
> ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/k3b-0.11.24  +arts -debug +dvdr +encode +flac +kde
> -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama 0 kB
> 
> 
> ideas?
> 
> James
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto speed up compilations

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:26:38 +0200
Francesco Talamona wrote:

> On Monday 18 July 2005 19:07, John J. Foster wrote:
> > Good afternoon all,
> >
> > A few weeks ago I read in one of the newgroups a way to greatly
> > decrease compilation times. The author noted that this was
> > particularly noticable when working with something like OO. The
> > general jist of it was to create temporary file system in memory and
> > mount your portage tmpdir there. For the life of me, I can't find
> > that thread anymore. Does anyone do something similar to this? Are
> > there noticable gains to be had. I have an Athlon 2800XP and 1 GB
> > ram.
> 
> IIRC OO takes more than 3GB of space to compile. Gcc itself is quite RAM 
> demanding...
> 
> I tkink it is feasible for smaller programs.

yeah and smaller programs take a negligible time in most cases.

anyone who has tested this, did you have ccache turned off? if it is on
it will skew results to hell, as a lot of the object files will be
cached.


> 
> Ciao
>   Francesco
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage

[Nick Rout]

yes i think you should try cdrecord from the command line with the
verbose option turned on and see what happens. ( the option is -V).

If you need the basics of how to use cdrecord see the cd writing howto
at http://tldp.org

There is some weird crap with cdrecord and various kernel versions.
what versions of cdrecrod and kernel are you running?

also I note that i am in the cdrecording group in /etc/group - I am not
sure if this is important or a hangover from some earlier setup.


On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:01:12 + (UTC)
James wrote:

> Nick Rout  rout.co.nz> writes:
> 
> > 
> > have you tried using k3bsetup?
> 
> Ah, this may be the problem.
> 
> IN the k3b gui, I went under settings, but did not see anything
> critical.
> 
> The only documents I have found are in /usr/share/doc/k3b-0.11.24.
> 
> Running k3bsetup as root fired up the gui. All of the selections
> look fine. I hit the 'apply button' anbd it popped up
> 'Successfully updated all permissions.'
> 
> It wrote out this file:
> /root/.kde3.3/share/config/k3bsetup2rc
> 
> Which is:
> [Devices]
> TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2412=4234,4200,auto,auto
> device_search_path=/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd
> 
> [External Programs]
> cdrdao default=/usr/bin/cdrdao
> cdrdao user parameters=
> cdrecord default=/usr/bin/cdrecord
> cdrecord user parameters=
> search
> path=/usr/bin/,/usr/local/bin/,/usr/sbin/,/usr/local/sbin/,/opt/schily/bin/,/sbin
> 
> [General Settings]
> burning group=burning
> use burning group=false
> 
> This look OK?
> 
> I get the same results trying to burn 2 .wav files to the cd-rw...
> 
> It runs but no progress with preparing write process (0%)
> or Overall progress (0%).
> 
> It just hangs. I let it go a while but nothing happens.
> Then I quite and mount the cd manually as root... empty...
> 
> ideas?
> 
> James
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:03:57 + (UTC)
James wrote:

> Well looking at that I used:
> cdrecord dev=ATAPI:1,1,0 -eject speed=2 -pad -audio -v close.wav

are you sure you have the right device? What is the output of 

cdrecord --scanbus dev=ATAPI

for reference mine is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cdrecord --scanbus dev=ATAPI
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r2
cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
scsidev: 'ATAPI'
devname: 'ATAPI'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained.
Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GSA-4163B' 'A103' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) 'ATAPI   ' 'CD-R/RW 20X10   ' 'H.BK' Removable CD-ROM
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
    0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD-cd usage

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:54:50 + (UTC)
James wrote:

> Nick Rout  rout.co.nz> writes:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:03:57 + (UTC)
> > James wrote:
> > 
> > > Well looking at that I used:
> > > cdrecord dev=ATAPI:1,1,0 -eject speed=2 -pad -audio -v close.wav
> > 
> > are you sure you have the right device? What is the output of 
> 0,0,0 0) 'TOSHIBA ' 'DVD-ROM SD-R2412' '1015' Removable CD-ROM

OK time to play "spot the obvious error" - your command line has ATAPI:1,1,0, 
whereas the device is at ATAPI:0,0,0

try the command line again with the correct device :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot get TV Card to work

[Nick Rout]

Jamie. we seem to be following each other around the mailing lists. CLUG, 
mythtv, now here. 

You seem to have all the modules loaded, what is not working? 

is there a /dev/video/video0?
does xawtv -c /dev/video/video0 give any output?



On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:20:48 +1200 (NZST)
Jamie Dobbs wrote:

> I've been working on this for several days but do not seem to make any
> progress.
> I have a Pinnacle PCTV Stereo card which is based on the Philips saa7134
> chip. I have recomipled my kernel (2.6.12-gentoo-r6) to include the
> saa7134 module and i2c support as a module.
> 
> lsmod output :
> 
> Module  Size  Used by
> tda988713144  0
> saa7134   102996  0
> tuner  26920  0
> video_buf  17924  1 saa7134
> v4l2_common 5184  1 saa7134
> v4l1_compat14084  1 saa7134
> ir_common   6660  1 saa7134
> videodev7808  1 saa7134
> 
> Relevant entries added to my /etc/modules.conf after modules-update is run:
> (I am in New Zealand and know that card number and tuner number are
> correct as I have had this card working in Mandrake 10.1 a week or so ago)
> 
> ### modules-update: start processing /etc/modules.d/saa7134
> options saa7134 card=26 tuner=5 oss=1
> 
> ### modules-update: end processing /etc/modules.d/saa7134
> 
> ### modules-update: start processing /etc/modules.d/tda9887
> options tda9887 qss=0
> 
> ### modules-update: end processing /etc/modules.d/tda9887
> 
> My Kernel .config file can be found at
> http://drgnfire.orcon.net.nz/kernel_config
> 
> I'd appreciate any feedback on what I might be doing wrong that is causing
> the TV Card not to work.
> 
> Once I have the card working my aim is to build a MythTV box using this
> card, so any pointers on this would also be appreciated (especially from
> anyone in New Zealand who has experience in this area).
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jamie
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Installation

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 09:31 +0200, Mark Humphrey wrote:
> Does Gentoo have any sort of GUI for installation? I've followed the
> Gentoo Handbook, but a GUI would obviously be nicer.

There is a project, the name of which escapes me, which does makes a gui
installer, using the redhat installer as a basis. Otherwise no.


> 
> 
> 
> Email Disclaimer
> http://www.aplitec.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] howto install gentoo without a cd-rom

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 13:47 +0600, simply change wrote:
> hi!
> 
> dear friends,
> 
> i have an old pentium2 laptop without a cdrom. it has a 1 LAN port(I
> HAVE A ADSL LINE) + floppy driver.  now i need to install gentoo to my
> lap. so can any body to help me to do this? 


There is a howto on  the gentoo documentation, and perhaps in the wiki
too, - search for "alternative install"

basically you need a floppy that will allow you to:

1. boot with networking going
2. create and mount your filesystems
3. download a stage file
4. unzip it (specifically bzip2, although if the floppy only has gzip ot
zip you an repack your stage file)
5. chroot into the new file system.

tomsrtbt seems to fall down on the chrooting.

> 
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[gentoo-user] gdm/gnome auto logout (sorry for possible repetition)

[Nick Rout]

Someone posted to my lug recently about a problem with gnome or gdm
seeming to automatically log them out after a period of time. I vaguely
recall this being discussed here a few months ago. I have searched my
own email folder and the archives, but cannot find the right thread or a
solution.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Name Resolution Problem

[Nick Rout]

> The /etc/hosts file has the only the following entry in it:
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> I cannot get the system to reconize anything that I place in /etc/hosts. For 
> some reason it does not appear that the /etc/hosts file is being processed. 
> Is there a config file somewhere that specifies whether or not the hosts file 
> gets processed? My system is setup for DHCP and resolv.conf gets overwritten 
> every time the system is booted.

Just check first that the lo interface is up? ifconfig will tell you.

also try

ping localhost
ping 127.0.0.1



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Re: [gentoo-user] Name Resolution Problem

[Nick Rout]

> lo is up, verified with ifconfig. I can ping 127.0.0.1, however pinging 
> localhost results in "ping: unknown host localhost". I get the same result 
> with anything else that I add to the hosts file.
> Thanks,
>  Russ

I would try strace now to see if /etc/hosts is being opened:

strace -e open ping localhost

(if that generates too much lok at man strace, there is an option to
save to a file - redirection does not work IIRC.)
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab?

[Nick Rout]

better still install main actor. heres how I did it:

1. Go to http://mainconcept.com and download the SuSE rpm. The file I
downloaded is mainactor-5.5.7-suse_9.3.i686.rpm

2. emerge rpm if it is not already on your system

3. install mainactor:

rpm -Uvh --nodeps mainactor-5.5.7-suse_9.3.i686.rpm

4. run the binary:

mactor

5. There is a good manual for downloading in pdf format. It is worth
reading. There are also support forums.

This is a closed source package, but it is IMHO very good. It will
work as per a licensed copy except it renders a message on your video
when doing final rendering. You can therefore get a good idea of what it
does, without the normal shareware "die after 30 days" or "render only
up to two minutes" nonsense. The license is EUR177/USD199. Not super
cheap, but there is not a lot of choice of good video editing software
on linux.

kino is quite good, but limited in the file formats it will handle,
basically dv (ie as captured from a digital video camera). it will
render to other formats, but will only import a rather limited range.

cinelerra should be good but is almost document-less.

avidemux is a good front end for basic cutting of scenes and trancoding
to other formats, but doesn't have any ability to add effects or transitions,
so is not a real video editor of the sort you want. Its good for
bringing in a video track (eg recorded tv), cutting out the bits you
don't want (ads, start & finish overlap, sex etc) and then rendering to
something like xvid, although it will render to  DVD compatible mpeg2
too.

 You may want to present clients with well mastered dvd's once you have
edited the scenes and added transitions and a soundtrack. I know that
some winders products offer a suite which does everything from DV camera import
through to burning the DVD. The linux approach will require more mix and
match, especially putting together DVD menus and stuff which will
require a tool like dvdstyler.I have successfully used dvdstyler to make
dvd's of family movies, recorded TV etc complete with menus.

One thing to note too is that there is a bit of a trend for cameras to
take mpeg or avi files instead of the more tradition digital video cam
DV format, It would pay to make sure that you will be able to use your
raw material in whatever software you decide to use. There are all sorts
of possibilities for transcoding stuff to a usable format before you
edit it, but the more steps you put in the process the more quality you
can lose.


On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:44:46 -0400
David Miller wrote:

> Last time I tried Cinelerra it was not what I would call production
> ready and feature wise it can not replace Premier.  However if you
> want to test it out see the following link for instructions on how to
> use portage and correctly deal with masked packages. 
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly
> 
> In short you can do the following and then emerge normally.
> 
> echo "media-video/cinelerra ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> 
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> 
> On 7/26/05, simply change <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > AybOwan! (=welcome)
> >   
> >   dear lu_zero,
> >   
> >  im a Sinhalease from Sri lanka. i have a small company here in lanka 
> > (video filming company ex:- wedding, parties filming). my editing tools are 
> > Adobe Premeir,after effect, etc like propriatary software.so now i want to 
> > fully migrate to Gentoo Linux. today i just try to emerge Cinelerra to my 
> > Gentoo box but it has been Masked. so friends please be kind enought to 
> > advice me to setting up a full professional video lab using Gentoo Linux. 
> > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] firefox won run

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:59:46 -0300
Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:

> Hi All, firefox do not want to run after update ... any clues ?

what are the error messages (go to an xterm and type it in, hit enter,
messages should appear



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[gentoo-user] Can't compile eix

[Nick Rout]

I have a much abused gentoo system on which I was trying to update eix. 
I get quite a few errors and i am not sure how far back up the output to 
go. Heres the last bits anyway. Can anyone tell me what I can do to fix 
that?


../../src/search/redundancy.h:37: error: syntax error before `,' token
../../src/search/redundancy.h:43: error: declaration does not declare 
anything

../../src/search/redundancy.h:50: error: missing ';' before right brace
../../src/search/redundancy.h:34: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `
  RedAtom' with no type
In file included from ../../src/global.h:32,
from utils.cc:33:
../../src/eixrc/eixrc.h:70: error: no type `Redundant' in `Keywords'
../../src/eixrc/eixrc.h:70: error: syntax error before `,' token
../../src/eixrc/eixrc.h:80: error: no type `Redundant' in `Keywords'
../../src/eixrc/eixrc.h:80: error: syntax error before `,' token
In file included from 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/ios:48,
from 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/ostream:45,
from 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/iostream:45,

from ../../src/eixTk/exceptions.h:31,
from utils.cc:35:
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:58: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:62: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:66: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:70: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:74: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:78: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:82: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:86: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:90: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:94: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:98: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:102: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:106: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:112: 
error: `

  ctype' is not a template
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:114: 
error: `

  ctype' is not a template
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:124: 
error: `

  codecvt' is not a template
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:126: 
error: `

  codecvt' is not a template
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:132: 
error: syntax

  error before `<' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:134: 
error: syntax

  error before `<' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:147: 
error: syntax

  error before `<' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:149: 
error: syntax

  error before `<' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:151: 
error: syntax

  error before `<' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:153: 
error: syntax

  error before `<' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:158: 
error: syntax

  error before `<' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:160: 
error: syntax

  error before `<' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:176: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:176: 
error: too

  many template parameter lists in declaration of `const _Facet&
  std::use_facet(...)'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:180: 
error: syntax

  error before `&' token
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/localefwd.h:180: 
error: too
  many template parameter lists in declaration of `bool 
std::has_facet(...)'
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.6/include/g++-v3/bits/locale_classes.h:51: 
confused by earlier errors, bailing out

make[3]: *** [utils.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
mv -

Re: [gentoo-user] playing mms with totem

[Nick Rout]

can't say for sure if totem does mms:// - but vlc and mplayer both do.


On Tue, September 4, 2007 2:43 am, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> When I fed mit-arvind-tribute-dennis-220k.asx to totem, a popup
> appeared saying
>No URI handler implemented for "mms"
>
> Is there a plugin I need or an extra use flag?
>
> thanks,
> allan
>
> ajglap gottlieb # eix totem
> [I] media-video/totem
>  Available versions:  2.16.5 2.18.2 2.18.3 {a52 dbus debug dvd ffmpeg
> firefox flac gnome hal lirc mad mpeg nsplugin nvtv ogg seamonkey
> theora vorbis xine xulrunner xv}
>  Installed versions:  2.18.3(07:45:14 08/30/07)(-a52 -debug dvd
> -ffmpeg -flac gnome -hal -lirc -mad -mpeg nsplugin -nvtv ogg
> -seamonkey -theora vorbis -xulrunner -xv)
>  Homepage:http://gnome.org/projects/totem/
>  Description: Media player for GNOME
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Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd and routes

[Nick Rout]

On Wednesday 07 February 2007 01:20, Dave Oxley wrote:
> I have a Gentoo server that is running Cisco VPN software to connect to
> my companies VPN. I have setup the server as a NAT for the specific
> subnet required for the VPN and the rest of my traffic goes through my
> router (192.168.1.1). I currently have to manually run the following
> command to setup the route:
> route add -net 10.4.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.200
>
> On my Gentoo server I run dhcpd to allocate IP addresses for machines on
> my LAN. The current configuration is:
> subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
>   range 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.199;
>   option routers 192.168.1.1;
> }
>
> So the question is how can I setup dhcpd to automatically setup the
> route command for all clients using the dhcpd?
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.

You are suggesting that each client needs the route command. Not so, set it on 
the gateway. that way each client accessing the VPN will be routed via the 
gateway back to 192.168.1.200 and thnce to the VPN.
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} courier-imap folders

[Nick Rout]

Grant wrote:

Can anyone tell me what these folders are for in my .maildir folder?

courierimapuiddb
courierimapsubscribed
courierimapkeywords
courierimaphieracl

I'm wondering if they're for the courier webmail client I'm not using.

- Grant

They are used internally by your courier imap server
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Re: [gentoo-user] A question regarding non-Portage software...

[Nick Rout]

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:10:22 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

  

I am hoping that someone can provide me with resources - examples
and/or a walkthrough would be especially helpful.  I realize that the
Gentoo team can only do so much and carefully test each package
before putting it in the official tree.  There are just some pieces
of software that I want that are not even in the testing tree.  
  

The devmanual is a good place to start. If you use IRC then
#gentoo-dev-help at freenode is a good place to get more help...



Also, search Bugzilla and the forums, someone may have already created
ebuilds for these programs.

  
Also look at ebuilds for similar programs. Write an ebuild, its not that 
difficult in a simple case.


With an ebuild, it is much easier to uninstall and upgrade packages.


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[gentoo-user] avidemux?

[Nick Rout]

Can anyone point me to an overlay or other reliable source of an ebuild
for avidemux that isn't hard masked and that "just works"?


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Re: [gentoo-user] avidemux?

[Nick Rout]

w avidemux svn, I'll try that tonight and see what happens.

In fact I could log in from work I suppose, will report back later ;-)


On Thu, April 5, 2007 10:15 am, Robert Walter wrote:
> hi
> try http://berkano.net/bits/2006/09/20/gentoo-overlay
> best regards robert
>
> On Wednesday 04 April 2007 21:55, Nick Rout wrote:
>> Can anyone point me to an overlay or other reliable source of an ebuild
>> for avidemux that isn't hard masked and that "just works"?
>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] avidemux?

[Nick Rout]

I have installed the berkano overlay and now have avidemux installed and
appearing to work.

of course as an svn ebuild, tomorrow's version may not work at all.


On Thu, April 5, 2007 1:42 pm, Nick Rout wrote:
> w avidemux svn, I'll try that tonight and see what happens.
>
> In fact I could log in from work I suppose, will report back later ;-)
>
>
> On Thu, April 5, 2007 10:15 am, Robert Walter wrote:
>> hi
>> try http://berkano.net/bits/2006/09/20/gentoo-overlay
>> best regards robert
>>
>> On Wednesday 04 April 2007 21:55, Nick Rout wrote:
>>> Can anyone point me to an overlay or other reliable source of an ebuild
>>> for avidemux that isn't hard masked and that "just works"?
>>>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, April 16, 2007 11:48 pm, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> To install gentoo, the minimum you require is a running kernel, a
> network connection and a shell session. From there you chroot into the
> directory that is going to become your /, unpack a portage tree and
> binaries copies of some important apps, then emerge the rest.
>
> You don't have to use a gentoo CD for that, I've done it from a Red Hat
> rescue disk, a Knoppix disk and from a working Mandrake install. The
> gentoo CD does make life easier though if you run into trouble, as
> everything you will need will be on the disk and you don't have to hunt
> for stuff.

You do need a working chroot, which can be a problem on some rescue
floppies (if you are reduced to floppies).



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Re: [gentoo-user] Allow a user to restart net.wlan0?

[Nick Rout]

On 10/2/2006, "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



>On 10/2/06, Devon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> emerge app-admin/sudo

>>

>>  Edit /etc/sudoers and add:

>>

>>  username ALL= NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/ner.wlan0

>>

>>  Where username is his login. To run it:

>>  sudo /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 restart

>>

>>  dcm

>>

>

>Thanks guys. I should have thought of sudo myself. I don't use it

>much. With your help I'm now able to do what I needed to do.

>

>Thanks,

>Mark



I wonder if this could be avoided by using the madwifi[-ng] driver and

avoiding the windows thing altogether? I found it worked well, as does

the freebsd kernel driver.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT- tv tuner cards

[Nick Rout]

On 10/3/2006, "maxim wexler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



>Hi group,

>

>Do these things work very well? What's a good one? Is

>it gentoo-friendly.

>

>I'll be using it with a Viewsonic 17" LCD with a

>digital connector and a ATI Radeon 256M vid card.

>

>I saw one work back in 2000 and thought the picture

>quality quite poor. Have they improved much since

>then?

>

>-Maxim



What is your TV source? Digital satellite? (DVB-S) Digital terrestial?

(DVB-T), analogue terrestial? Cable? What country are you in?





If you are after an analogue card I recommend a hauppauge PVR 150 or 250

or 350 or 500. The ivtv drivers can be flaky, but are improving all the

time. The cards have a hardware mpeg-2 encoder, meaning you can get

encoded video without using much cpu time.



Also most stuff based on the bt878 chipset will work via the bttv driver.



If it is DVB stuff you are afdter, look to the linuxtv.org website.



You'll also get a lot of help on the mythtv mailing lists.

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