[geo] Re: Holdren et al weigh in

2013-03-23 Thread David Lewis
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On Friday, March 22, 2013 9:25:11 PM UTC-7, Greg Rau wrote:

 ... the preceding oversight seems dangerously narrow minded.  -Greg



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[geo] Re: Icelandic volcano's ash led to more CO2 being absorbed by oceans

2013-03-23 Thread Brad Guth
With perhaps 6000 tonnes of helium per year getting produced, and the
moon continually tidal modulating Earth; its hot innards of gasses and
solids has to go somewhere.

On Mar 22, 2:42 am, Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://planetearth.nerc.ac.uk/news/story.aspx?id=1416cookieConsent=A

 NEWS

 Icelandic volcano's ash led to more CO2 being absorbed by oceans

 22 March 2013, by Harriet Jarlett

 The Icelandic volcano's ash plume that caused huge air travel disruption
 across Europe in 2010 resulted in the oceans absorbing more carbon dioxide
 (CO2) than usual, say scientists.

 They found that particles from the ash cloud that fell into the ocean
 provided microscope plants, called phytoplankton, with a nutrient boost in
 the form of iron. Phytoplankton are important as they absorb CO2 from the
 atmosphere. In fact, while phytoplankton represent just two per cent of all
 plant matter on Earth, they account for half of all CO2absorption from the
 atmosphere.'This had never been done, no one has ever made any at-sea
 in-situ measurements during an eruption,' explains Professor Eric
 Achterberg, from the National Oceanography Centre Southampton, lead
 researcher on the study.In the oceans south of Iceland there isn't usually
 enough iron for phytoplankton to bloom for more than a few weeks before it
 runs out. This latest study reveals that the volcanic ash column supplied
 enough iron that the phytoplankton were able to bloom for longer, and
 absorb more CO2 than they would typically have been able to.'In normal
 years the iron levels are very low in the Iceland basin as the system runs
 out of this nutrient during the annual spring bloom. But in 2010 the iron
 supply was so high that demands were met. But then the phytoplankton
 stripped the nitrogen out of the surface waters so they became limited by
 that instead,' says Achterberg.The research, published in Geophysical
 Research Letters, found even with the added iron from the volcano and the
 longer blooming period, the phytoplankton were only able to absorb about
 15-20 per cent more CO2 than in other years before the nitrogen in the
 water ran out.Intentionally adding iron to the oceans, called iron
 fertilisation, has been suggested as a way of getting phytoplankton to
 bloom and absorb more carbon dioxide, to combat rising levels in the
 atmosphere.The results in the study were collected on three separate
 expeditions on the RRS Discovery. Eyjafjallajökull erupted just as the
 first cruise was about to embark and nearly spelled the end of several
 long-planned experiments - scientists had originally intended to observe
 the normal iron levels in the water and see if phytoplankton struggle to
 find enough iron.But then the researchers became the first to measure the
 effect of a volcanic eruption on the ocean productivity, whilst the
 eruption was happening. 'We managed to get right under the plume. We
 sampled there to look at the effects of ash on the water column and see how
 it affected dissolved iron and aluminium concentration. It was challenging
 - the ship was covered with ash,' concludes Achterberg.

 Achterberg, E. P., C. Mark Moore, S. A. Henson, S. Steigenberger, A. Stohl,
 S. Eckhardt, L. C. Avendano, M. Cassidy, D. Hembury, J. K. Klar, M. I.
 Lucas, A. I. Macey, C. M. Marsay, and T. J. Ryan-Keogh (2013), Natural iron
 fertilization by the Eyjafjallajökull volcanic eruption, Geophys. Res.
 Lett., 40, doi:10.1002/grl.50221.

 Keywords: Biology, Climate system, Earth system, Environmental
 change,Hazards, Marine life, Plants, Volcanoes, Water,

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Re: [geo] Holdren et al weigh in

2013-03-23 Thread RAU greg
Further comment below.
Some nuggets:
Efforts to adapt to climate change will ultimately be overwhelmed, however, 
unless the government moves to curb, or mitigate, carbon emissions, PCAST 
notes. 

G - So adaptation is useless, and the government efforts to curb, or mitigate, 
carbon emissions doesn't look too promising either. No mention of the 
possibility of other options(!)

It is one thing to be realistic about what legislation you can pass this 
year, adds geochemist Ken Caldeira of the Carnegie Institution for Science in 
Stanford, California. It is another thing entirely not to be realistic about 
the scale of energy transition our nation must undertake if we are to make a 
substantial dent in climate risk.

Still no mention of the existence and need to research alternative strategies.
-G




Science 22 March 2013: 
Vol. 339 no. 6126 p. 1372 
DOI: 10.1126/science.339.6126.1372
* News  Analysis
Climate Policy
A More Modest Climate Agenda for Obama's Second Term?
1. Eli Kintisch
View larger version:
Prepared?
The White House science council says the nation needs to do more to prepare for 
disasters, such as last year's drought and Superstorm Sandy (left), that could 
come in a warmer world.
CREDITS (LEFT TO RIGHT): STAN HONDA/AFP/GETTY IMAGES/NEWSCOM; JEFF 
TUTTLE/REUTERS/NEWSCOM
When it comes to tackling climate change, President Barack Obama once had grand 
ambitions, including forging a global deal on reducing greenhouse gas emissions 
and persuading Congress to enact legislation that would impose fees on U.S. 
carbon pollution. With those hopes dashed by political realities, however, the 
president's science advisers last week proposed some potentially more doable 
climate actions that Obama could take during his second term. But some climate 
scientists say that the proposals, while laudable, fall short of what's needed.
The 10-page report approved on 15 March by the President's Council of Advisors 
on Science and Technology (PCAST) outlines a range of steps that Obama could 
take, most without requiring new legislation, to address the causes and 
consequences of global warming. To curb U.S. emissions, for instance, PCAST 
says 
Obama should extend recently developed regulations that cover emissions from 
new 
power plants that burn fossil fuels to the much larger number of existing 
plants. It also suggests that the administration consider negotiating a 
regional 
pact on greenhouse gas emissions with the country's North American neighbors, 
Canada and Mexico. And it urges Obama to appoint a new national commission on 
climate preparedness that would recommend ways to improve the government's 
planning for droughts, floods, and other natural disasters that could be 
spurred 
by climate change.
The president has read a draft of the report, says PCAST member Daniel Schrag, 
a 
geochemist and an energy specialist at Harvard University, and was broadly 
supportive, mostly, of what we were doing.
Conspicuously absent from PCAST's list, however, are the big climate agenda 
items from Obama's first term, including setting a price on carbon and 
negotiating a global pact. In large part, the omissions reflect PCAST's 
interest 
in focusing on things that Obama could push for and achieve, Schrag says. A 
price on carbon would be great, but we don't expect it to happen politically 
because of opposition in Congress.
That approach isn't sitting well with some researchers. It is not PCAST's job 
to do Obama's political strategizing for him, says climate modeler Raymond 
Pierrehumbert of the University of Chicago in Illinois. I believe that PCAST 
should have emphasized the importance of implementing a price on carbon. It is 
one thing to be realistic about what legislation you can pass this year, adds 
geochemist Ken Caldeira of the Carnegie Institution for Science in Stanford, 
California. It is another thing entirely not to be realistic about the scale 
of 
energy transition our nation must undertake if we are to make a substantial 
dent 
in climate risk.
Other critics note that the report is silent on whether the White House should 
approve the controversial Keystone XL oil pipeline from Canada, which opponents 
say would promote unwise energy development. Eighteen scientists, led by NASA 
climatologist James Hansen, urged the president earlier this year to stop the 
project, saying it runs counter to national and planetary interests.
Instead of wading into such largely political issues, PCAST emphasized a 
topic 
that often gets short shrift in policy discussions, Schrag says: the need to 
prepare the country for the impacts of climate change. The proposed 
preparedness commission, he says, could help lay the ground work for changing 
federal policies on disaster relief and insurance … [so] that financial 
capital, when invested following a disaster, is used not just to rebuild, but 
to 
rebuild better. Homes could be moved out of coastal areas that are likely to 
be 
flooded again by 

[geo] Why geoengineering has immediate appeal to China (Guradian)

2013-03-23 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/22/geoengineering-china-climate-change

Why geoengineering has immediate appeal to China
Beijing wants to cut emissions without hindering growth and avert a
revolt from a population under extreme climate stress

Clive Hamilton professor of public ethics at Charles Sturt University
in Canberra
Friday 22 March 2013 14.01 GMT

The political dilemma over geoengineering – deliberate, large-scale
intervention in the climate system designed to counter global warming
or offset some of its effects – will perhaps be most acute in China.

In December, the country listed geoengineering among its Earth science
research priorities, in a marked shift in the international climate
change landscape noticed by China specialists Kingsley Edney and
Jonathan Symons.

On the one hand, China's rapid economic growth has seen a huge
escalation in its greenhouse gas emissions, which on an annual basis
overtook those of the United States five years ago. Sustained GDP
growth provides China's Communist party with its only claim to
legitimacy, its mandate of heaven. China's efforts to constrain the
growth of its emissions have been substantial, and certainly put to
shame those of many developed nations.

Yet neither China's efforts nor those of other countries over the next
two or three decades are likely to do much to slow the warming of the
globe, nor halt the climate disruption that will follow. Global
emissions have not been declining or even slowing. In fact, global
emissions are accelerating. Even the World Bank, which for years has
been criticised for promoting carbon-intensive development, now warns
that we are on track for 4C of warming, which would change everything.

China is highly vulnerable to water shortages in the north, with
declining crop yields and food price rises expected, and storms and
flooding in the east and south. Climate-related disasters in China are
already a major source of social unrest so there is a well-founded
fear in Beijing that the impacts of climate change in the provinces
could topple the government in the capital. Natural disasters
jeopardise its mandate.

So what can the Chinese government do? Continued growth in greenhouse
gas emissions is a condition for its hold on power, but climate
disruption in response to emissions growth threatens to destabilise
it.

Geoengineering has immediate appeal as a way out of this catch-22.
While a variety of technologies to take carbon out of the air or to
regulate sunlight are being researched, at present by far the most
likely intervention would involve blanketing the Earth with a layer of
sulphate particles to block some incoming solar radiation.

Spraying sulphate aerosols could mask warming and cool the planet
within weeks, although it would not solve the core problem of too much
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and oceans.

Scientists and policy-makers in China have been watching the debate
over geoengineering unfold in the US and Europe where there has been a
boom in discussion and research since the taboo was lifted in 2006,
following an intervention by Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen calling for
investigation of plan B.

In the US, there have been several high-level reports arguing for more
research into geoengineering — the National Research Council, the
House of Representatives' committee on science and technology and the
Government Accountability Office. Influential Beltway thinktanks, like
the Bipartisan Policy Center, have joined the fray. Plan B is being
discussed in the White House, and the military is keeping a watching
brief, and maybe doing more.

China's decision to initiate a research programme could be motivated
by no more than a desire to develop a national capacity to keep
abreast of what is happening in the rest of the world. Certainly,
there is a good deal of scepticism about geoengineering within China's
scientific community.

Yet as the world remains paralysed by the scale of the warming crisis,
and watches while it becomes locked-in, the capacity to implement an
emergency response will become ever-more attractive. And in a global
emergency — a crippling drought, the Amazon ablaze, Greenland
collapsing — the gaze becomes focussed on the urgent to the exclusion
of all else, including the interests of other, less-powerful nations
whose plight may be worsened if a major power decided to regulate the
Earth's climate system.

While western nations are not ruled by one-party states determined to
maintain power at all costs, in truth the tyranny of the economic
system is no less absolute. The 2008 financial crisis and its
aftermath demonstrated that the structures of power that underpin the
system — the banks, the markets, the major corporations and their ties
to the political system — are extremely resilient, perhaps every bit
as resistant to change as China's Communist party.

After all, when it comes to responding to climate disruption every
report and recommendation — from the Stern report to