[geo] Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in atmosphere | Zee News

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://zeenews.india.com/news/eco-news/arctic-sea-ice-depletion-to-result-in-rise-of-co2-in-atmosphere_1474406.html

Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in atmosphere Last
Updated: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 - 12:38

Washington: A new study has revealed that Arctic Sea ice helps remove
carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and its depletion would result in an
increase of atmospheric concentration of the gas.

Dorte Haubjerg Sogaard, PhD Fellow, Nordic Center for Earth Evolution,
University of Southern Denmark and the Greenland Institute of Natural
Resources, Nuuk, said that if their results are representative, then sea
ice plays a greater role than expected, and we should take this into
account in future global CO2 budgets.

The researchers said that they have long known that the Earth's oceans are
able to absorb huge amounts of CO2. But they also thought that this did not
apply to ocean areas covered by ice, because the ice was considered
impenetrable. However, this is not true, as the new research shows that sea
ice in the Arctic draws large amounts of CO2 from the atmosphere into the
ocean.

Sogaard said that the chemical removal of CO2 in sea ice occurs in two
phases. First crystals of calcium carbonate are formed in sea ice in
winter. During this formation CO2 splits off and is dissolved in a heavy
cold brine, which gets squeezed out of the ice and sinks into the deeper
parts of the ocean. Calcium carbonate cannot move as freely as CO2 and
therefore it stays in the sea ice. In summer, when the sea ice melts,
calcium carbonate dissolves, and CO2 is needed for this process. Thus, CO2
gets drawn from the atmosphere into the ocean -and therefore CO2 gets
removed from the atmosphere.

ANI

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[geo] Developing a framework for responsible innovation ☆ — ScienceDirect

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Lockley
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048733313000930?_rdoc=1_fmt=high_origin=gateway_docanchor=md5=b8429449ccfc9c30159a5f9aeaa92ffb

Research Policy November 2013, Vol.42(9):1568–1580, doi:10.101… Open
Access, Creative Commons license, Funding information Developing a
framework for responsible innovation ☆

Jack Stilgoe, Richard Owen, Phil Macnaghten

Highlights

The democratic governance of emerging science and innovation is a major
challenge.

We describe a framework for responsible innovation that addresses social
and ethical concerns.

The framework has four dimensions: anticipation, reflexivity, inclusion and
responsiveness.

We describe the application of this framework to one geoengineering
research project.

We conclude that such a framework can underpin a practical and systematic
approach to governance.

Abstract

The governance of emerging science and innovation is a major challenge for
contemporary democracies. In this paper we present a framework for
understanding and supporting efforts aimed at ‘responsible innovation’. The
framework was developed in part through work with one of the first major
research projects in the controversial area of geoengineering, funded by
the UK Research Councils. We describe this case study, and how this became
a location to articulate and explore four integrated dimensions of
responsible innovation: anticipation, reflexivity, inclusion and
responsiveness. Although the framework for responsible innovation was
designed for use by the UK Research Councils and the scientific communities
they support, we argue that it has more general application and relevance.

Keywords

Responsible innovation; Governance; Emerging technologies; Ethics;
Geoengineering

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[geo] Fwd: CEC14 presentations

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Lockley
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From: Schäfer, Stefan stefan.schae...@iass-potsdam.de
Date: Sep 23, 2014 4:24 PM
Subject: CEC14 presentations
To: Schäfer, Stefan stefan.schae...@iass-potsdam.de
Cc:

 Dear colleagues,



I am happy to announce that many of the presentations that were given at
CEC14 are now available online. You can find them at the respective session
pages on the CEC14 website (www.ce-conference.org).



These are the presentations for which we were given explicit permission by
their authors to post them online, as requested in an earlier email. If you
would still like to have your presentation posted, feel free to send me a
confirmation of this and I will have your presentation added.



Best wishes,

Stefan Schäfer


Academic Officer

Sustainable Interactions with the Atmosphere


Institute for Advanced Sustainability Studies (IASS)

Berliner Str. 130, D-14467 Potsdam


Tel: 0049 331 288223 69
Fax: 0049 331 288223 10
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RE: [geo] Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in atmosphere | Zee News

2014-09-23 Thread Rau, Greg
A new study has revealed that Arctic Sea ice helps remove carbon dioxide from 
the atmosphere and its depletion would result in an increase of atmospheric 
concentration of the gas. [?!]

How does removing CO2 from air increase air CO2 concentrations? Anyway, can 
believe that CaCO3 precipitates and CO2 is generated as seawater freezes and 
brine is formed: Ca(HCO3)2aq --- CaCO3s + CO2g + H2O.  But whether the CO2 is 
then subducted with the sinking brine or degasses to the atmosphere would seem 
critical to the air/ocean CO2 budget. That some CaCO3s is entrained in the the 
ice seems logical, but how the preceding reaction is reversed to consume this 
carbonate and CO2 is unclear. There would need to be a way to concentrate CO2 
to generate H2CO3 to then consume the CaCO3s to (re)make Ca(HCO3)2aq.  How does 
that happen? Anyway, if it does happen this would seem to offer a new 
explanation for glacial/ interglacial CO2 variations, not to mention a new 
method of modern day CDR - bomb sea ice sheets with limestone particles.  
Beneficial chemtrails on ice ;-)
Greg


From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com [geoengineering@googlegroups.com] on 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:56 AM
To: geoengineering
Subject: [geo] Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in atmosphere 
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Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in atmosphere Last Updated: 
Tuesday, September 23, 2014 - 12:38

Washington: A new study has revealed that Arctic Sea ice helps remove carbon 
dioxide from the atmosphere and its depletion would result in an increase of 
atmospheric concentration of the gas.

Dorte Haubjerg Sogaard, PhD Fellow, Nordic Center for Earth Evolution, 
University of Southern Denmark and the Greenland Institute of Natural 
Resources, Nuuk, said that if their results are representative, then sea ice 
plays a greater role than expected, and we should take this into account in 
future global CO2 budgets.

The researchers said that they have long known that the Earth's oceans are able 
to absorb huge amounts of CO2. But they also thought that this did not apply to 
ocean areas covered by ice, because the ice was considered impenetrable. 
However, this is not true, as the new research shows that sea ice in the Arctic 
draws large amounts of CO2 from the atmosphere into the ocean.

Sogaard said that the chemical removal of CO2 in sea ice occurs in two phases. 
First crystals of calcium carbonate are formed in sea ice in winter. During 
this formation CO2 splits off and is dissolved in a heavy cold brine, which 
gets squeezed out of the ice and sinks into the deeper parts of the ocean. 
Calcium carbonate cannot move as freely as CO2 and therefore it stays in the 
sea ice. In summer, when the sea ice melts, calcium carbonate dissolves, and 
CO2 is needed for this process. Thus, CO2 gets drawn from the atmosphere into 
the ocean -and therefore CO2 gets removed from the atmosphere.

ANI

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Re: [geo] Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in atmosphere | Zee News

2014-09-23 Thread Ken Caldeira
Agree with Greg.

If there is any net effect of this process at all (relative to the no-ice
situation) then quantitatively it must be tiny tiny tiny.

If the alkalinity represented by the Ca2+ in the CaCO3 was in the surface
ocean with no ice, that would tend to draw CO2 into the ocean.


___
Ken Caldeira

Carnegie Institution for Science
Dept of Global Ecology
260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA
+1 650 704 7212 kcalde...@carnegiescience.edu
http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab
https://twitter.com/KenCaldeira

Assistant:  Dawn Ross dr...@carnegiescience.edu


On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote:

  A new study has revealed that Arctic Sea ice helps remove carbon
 dioxide from the atmosphere and its depletion would result in an increase
 of atmospheric concentration of the gas. [?!]

  How does removing CO2 from air increase air CO2 concentrations? Anyway,
 can believe that CaCO3 precipitates and CO2 is generated as seawater
 freezes and brine is formed: Ca(HCO3)2aq --- CaCO3s + CO2g + H2O.  But
 whether the CO2 is then subducted with the sinking brine or degasses to the
 atmosphere would seem critical to the air/ocean CO2 budget. That some
 CaCO3s is entrained in the the ice seems logical, but how the preceding
 reaction is reversed to consume this carbonate and CO2 is unclear. There
 would need to be a way to concentrate CO2 to generate H2CO3 to then consume
 the CaCO3s to (re)make Ca(HCO3)2aq.  How does that happen? Anyway, if it
 does happen this would seem to offer a new explanation for glacial/
 interglacial CO2 variations, not to mention a new method of modern day CDR
 - bomb sea ice sheets with limestone particles.  Beneficial chemtrails on
 ice ;-)
 Greg

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 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:56 AM
 *To:* geoengineering
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 atmosphere | Zee News


 http://zeenews.india.com/news/eco-news/arctic-sea-ice-depletion-to-result-in-rise-of-co2-in-atmosphere_1474406.html

 Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in atmosphere Last
 Updated: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 - 12:38

 Washington: A new study has revealed that Arctic Sea ice helps remove
 carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and its depletion would result in an
 increase of atmospheric concentration of the gas.

 Dorte Haubjerg Sogaard, PhD Fellow, Nordic Center for Earth Evolution,
 University of Southern Denmark and the Greenland Institute of Natural
 Resources, Nuuk, said that if their results are representative, then sea
 ice plays a greater role than expected, and we should take this into
 account in future global CO2 budgets.

 The researchers said that they have long known that the Earth's oceans are
 able to absorb huge amounts of CO2. But they also thought that this did not
 apply to ocean areas covered by ice, because the ice was considered
 impenetrable. However, this is not true, as the new research shows that sea
 ice in the Arctic draws large amounts of CO2 from the atmosphere into the
 ocean.

 Sogaard said that the chemical removal of CO2 in sea ice occurs in two
 phases. First crystals of calcium carbonate are formed in sea ice in
 winter. During this formation CO2 splits off and is dissolved in a heavy
 cold brine, which gets squeezed out of the ice and sinks into the deeper
 parts of the ocean. Calcium carbonate cannot move as freely as CO2 and
 therefore it stays in the sea ice. In summer, when the sea ice melts,
 calcium carbonate dissolves, and CO2 is needed for this process. Thus, CO2
 gets drawn from the atmosphere into the ocean -and therefore CO2 gets
 removed from the atmosphere.

 ANI

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Re: [geo] Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in atmosphere | Zee News

2014-09-23 Thread Mike MacCracken
In my reading, the wording was very confusing. Reading more carefully, it
seemed to me that they were saying that there will be less CO2 in the ocean
as a result of melting back of the sea ice. An open Arctic with no sea ice
formation would imply less down-welling due to not forming dense brine
pockets, so one mechanism would be a consequence of that, and another might
be due to the greater stability of the ocean in the warm season. I did not
read the paper, but, once I got past some unclear wording, the sign sort of
made sense.

Mike


On 9/23/14 1:52 PM, Ken Caldeira kcalde...@carnegiescience.edu wrote:

 Agree with Greg.
 
 If there is any net effect of this process at all (relative to the no-ice
 situation) then quantitatively it must be tiny tiny tiny.
 
 If the alkalinity represented by the Ca2+ in the CaCO3 was in the surface
 ocean with no ice, that would tend to draw CO2 into the ocean.
 
 
 ___
 Ken Caldeira
 
 Carnegie Institution for Science 
 Dept of Global Ecology
 260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA
 +1 650 704 7212 kcalde...@carnegiescience.edu
 http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab  
 https://twitter.com/KenCaldeira
 
 Assistant:  Dawn Ross dr...@carnegiescience.edu
 
 
 On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote:
 A new study has revealed that Arctic Sea ice helps remove carbon dioxide
 from the atmosphere and its depletion would result in an increase of
 atmospheric concentration of the gas. [?!]
 
 How does removing CO2 from air increase air CO2 concentrations? Anyway, can
 believe that CaCO3 precipitates and CO2 is generated as seawater freezes and
 brine is formed: Ca(HCO3)2aq --- CaCO3s + CO2g + H2O.  But whether the CO2
 is then subducted with the sinking brine or degasses to the atmosphere would
 seem critical to the air/ocean CO2 budget. That some CaCO3s is entrained in
 the the ice seems logical, but how the preceding reaction is reversed to
 consume this carbonate and CO2 is unclear. There would need to be a way
 to concentrate CO2 to generate H2CO3 to then consume the CaCO3s to (re)make
 Ca(HCO3)2aq.  How does that happen? Anyway, if it does happen this would seem
 to offer a new explanation for glacial/ interglacial CO2 variations, not to
 mention a new method of modern day CDR - bomb sea ice sheets with limestone
 particles.  Beneficial chemtrails on ice ;-)
 Greg
  
 
 From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com [geoengineering@googlegroups.com] on
 behalf of Andrew Lockley [andrew.lock...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:56 AM
 To: geoengineering
 Subject: [geo] Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in
 atmosphere | Zee News
 
 http://zeenews.india.com/news/eco-news/arctic-sea-ice-depletion-to-result-in-
 rise-of-co2-in-atmosphere_1474406.html
 
 Arctic sea ice depletion to result in rise of CO2 in atmosphere Last Updated:
 Tuesday, September 23, 2014 - 12:38
 
 Washington: A new study has revealed that Arctic Sea ice helps remove carbon
 dioxide from the atmosphere and its depletion would result in an increase of
 atmospheric concentration of the gas.
 
 Dorte Haubjerg Sogaard, PhD Fellow, Nordic Center for Earth Evolution,
 University of Southern Denmark and the Greenland Institute of Natural
 Resources, Nuuk, said that if their results are representative, then sea ice
 plays a greater role than expected, and we should take this into account in
 future global CO2 budgets.
 
 The researchers said that they have long known that the Earth's oceans are
 able to absorb huge amounts of CO2. But they also thought that this did not
 apply to ocean areas covered by ice, because the ice was considered
 impenetrable. However, this is not true, as the new research shows that sea
 ice in the Arctic draws large amounts of CO2 from the atmosphere into the
 ocean.
 
 Sogaard said that the chemical removal of CO2 in sea ice occurs in two
 phases. First crystals of calcium carbonate are formed in sea ice in winter.
 During this formation CO2 splits off and is dissolved in a heavy cold brine,
 which gets squeezed out of the ice and sinks into the deeper parts of the
 ocean. Calcium carbonate cannot move as freely as CO2 and therefore it stays
 in the sea ice. In summer, when the sea ice melts, calcium carbonate
 dissolves, and CO2 is needed for this process. Thus, CO2 gets drawn from the
 atmosphere into the ocean -and therefore CO2 gets removed from the
 atmosphere.
 
 ANI

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