Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker

[Olivier Boucher]

Alan

I now decline such invitations because I consider them to be a trap. A 
symmetric one-to-one or four-to-four debate with skeptics does not work in the 
eyes of the public. It becomes a rhetoric thing. The public gets out that the 
scientists disagree, which is the primary objective of the organizer. This is a 
pity bceause beyond climate change there is a real debate to have on energy 
choices and so on.

Olivier (depuis / from smartphone)

> Le 6 sept. 2019 à 02:03, Alan Robock  a écrit :
> 
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> Last night I attended CNN's Climate Town Hall, and asked my Senator Cory 
> Booker a question about solar geoengineering research.  You can see it 
> starting at 27:44 on 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIMD2E6DgE=PL29Rq0wvBhgOcY9ew5490FwzT5U5N6CqT=11=0s
>   He immediately called me "Sir," and said he did not know anything about it, 
> but would find out.  Today Rutgers got an email from his office asking for 
> more information and I will explain what it is and why we need more resources 
> for research.
> 
> I did not intend to embarrass him.  I submitted the same question to CNN to 
> be asked of all 10 candidates, and they decided to invite me and have me ask 
> it of my own Senator.  I spent 4 hours in the audience listening to Biden, 
> Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, and Booker, and was the last person to 
> ask a question.  It was a long time, but very interesting.  Mine was the only 
> geoengineering question.  Booker referenced one, and it must have been to one 
> of the four other candidates who appeared before my 4 hours.
> 
> The other interesting email I got today was the one below.  How do you 
> recommend I answer?   My plan is to say that appearing there would give 
> legitimacy to a "debate" about settled science.  I have not debated global 
> warming deniers for years now for this reason.
> Alan
> 
> Alan Robock, Distinguished Professor
>   Associate Editor, Reviews of Geophysics
> Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751
> Rutgers UniversityE-mail: rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu
> 14 College Farm Roadhttp://people.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock
> New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551  USA  ☮ http://twitter.com/AlanRobock
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  INVITATION: Sept. 23 Debate on Global Climate Change and Need 
> for Action
> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:11:59 +
> From: Jim Lakely 
> To:   rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu 
> 
> 
> Dr. Robock,
>  
> [NOTE: This letter is sent on behalf of Frank Lasée, president of The 
> Heartland Institute.]
>  
> In the wake of your excellent public performance on CNN last night, The 
> Heartland Institute would like to invite you to participate in an interactive 
> discussion and debate on climate change in New York City on September 23 in 
> conjunction with the United Nations Climate Action Summit. The goal of the 
> Heartland Institute event is to broaden public knowledge about the most 
> important and most discussed issues related to climate change.
>  
> The event will feature up to five climate experts and policymakers who warn 
> of an imminent climate crisis, and up to five climate experts and 
> policymakers who are skeptical of an asserted crisis. Each evenly matched 
> side will be given equal time to make their case in a live event streamed 
> globally on YouTube. Each participant will be given time to make an opening 
> statement as well as answer questions posed by a moderator. One participant 
> from each side will be allowed to present a final summary. 
>  
> We welcome suggested questions from each side. The moderator’s questions may 
> also include:
>  
> §  Does the world really have just 12 years left to radically transform our 
> lifestyles and energy sources to prevent unstoppable and catastrophic climate 
> change?
> §  Will melting glaciers release cataclysmic ancient diseases?
> §  How have United Nations climate models fared in their temperature 
> predictions?
> §  How much of the observed warming is caused by people and how much is 
> caused by nature?
> §  Is climate change making extreme weather events more frequent and severe?
> §  Is climate change causing a refugee crisis?
> §  Is observed climate change already harming food production?
> §  What observational evidence would induce you to change your current 
> position on the causes and consequences of climate change?
> §  Would action by the United States or Western democracies have much impact 
> without substantial reductions from China and other rapidly developing 
> nations?
> §  Is it possible for scientists with differing views to cooperate together 
> rather than form isolated camps?
>  
> The Heartland Institute will cover all of your travel expenses and will 
> contribute $1,000 to the charity of your choice in lieu of a personal 
> honorarium. We hope this event will provide a valuable public service by 
> increasing public knowledge on key climate change 

Re: [geo] There is no Plan B for dealing with the climate crisis: Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists: Vol 75, No 5

[Andrew Lockley]

That's classic moral hazard

On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, 09:38 Stephen Salter,  wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Let us agree that 'there is simply no substitute for decarbonisation'.
>
> But doing it will be difficult and slow.
>
> Geoengineering will give more time and so make it slightly less difficult.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> Emeritus Professor of Engineering Design. School of Engineering,
> University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh EH9 3DW, Scotland
> s.sal...@ed.ac.uk, Tel +44 (0)131 650 5704, Cell 07795 203 195,
> WWW.homepages.ed.ac.uk/shs, YouTube Jamie Taylor Power for Change
> On 05/09/2019 22:23, Andrew Lockley wrote:
>
> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00963402.2019.1654255
>
>
> ABSTRACT
> To halt global warming, the emission of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere
> by human activities such as fossil fuel burning, cement production, and
> deforestation needs to be brought all the way to zero. The longer it takes
> to do so, the hotter the world will get. Lack of progress towards
> decarbonization has created justifiable panic about the climate crisis.
> This has led to an intensified interest in technological climate
> interventions that involve increasing the reflection of sunlight to space
> by injecting substances into the stratosphere which lead to the formation
> of highly reflective particles. When first suggested, such albedo
> modification schemes were introduced as a “Plan B,” in case the world
> economy fails to decarbonize, and this scenario has dominated much of the
> public perception of albedo modification as a savior waiting in the wings
> to protect the world against massive climate change arising from a failure
> to decarbonize.
>
> But because of the mismatch between the millennial persistence time of
> carbon dioxide and the sub-decadal persistence of stratospheric particles,
> albedo modification can never safely play more than a very minor role in
> the portfolio of solutions. There is simply no substitute for
> decarbonization.
>
> KEYWORDS: Global warming, geoengineering, climate change, carbon budgets,
> decarbonization, climate crisis, carbon dioxide, greenhouse gas
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[geo] Fwd: Job Opportunity - SCoPEx Advisory Committee Executive Coordinator

[Andrew Lockley]

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[geo] SRMGI - correcting a mistake by Ray Pierrehumbert

[Andy Parker]

Hi folks, 


I’m writing to correct an error made by Ray Pierrehumbert in a recent 
opinion piece on SRM, which has only just come to my attention. In an 
article published in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, Ray wrote: 

“*it is apparent that over time, the Environmental Defense Fund is 
gradually becoming, at the very least, a partner in a governance initiative 
that, in my view, has taken it as a foregone conclusion that outdoor 
experimentation at some scale will happen – and that the only question is 
how to govern it so it takes place in a so-called safe way (SRMGI 2019). 
The governance initiative fails to ask the deeper question of whether it is 
wise at this point to engage in research that could facilitate the 
deployment of a technology that may well prove ungovernable*”.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00963402.2019.1654255


I direct the governance initiative in question (SRMGI) and I wanted to 
point out that we don’t have any position on outdoors experimentation and 
we do explicitly ask the "deeper question" of whether it is wise to engage 
in outdoors research. Earlier this week we ran a workshop in Abidjan, Cote 
d’Ivoire, and I've attached the relevant slide from a group exercise. 
Translated it reads:


*Scientists from Harvard are planning an SRM experiment in the next year. 
The experiment would involve releasing one kilogram of sulphur dioxide into 
the stratosphere in order to better understand possible impacts on 
atmospheric chemistry, including the destruction of ozone. The experiment 
wouldn't have any negative environmental impacts and couldn't be done in a 
lab, but some people are concerned about the sociopolitical impacts.*

*1. Is this research welcome or unwelcome, and why?*

*2. If the decision to approve the experiment were down to you, what 
information would you want in order to make the decision?*

 

In case of interest, and quite unsurprisingly, the question returned a wide 
range of views and a vigorous debate between the ~100 participants. Some 
people were concerned about decision-making processes and about who got to 
evaluate the experiment's physical risks, some people wondered what future 
research projects this might lead onto, some people were happy to see the 
research proceed as they thought that it might be useful and that the 
levels of risk were acceptable.

 

Hope that this sets the record straight.

 

Andy

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Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker

[Klaus Lackner]

You can’t convince people who are already convinced.  This email offers you an 
opportunity to change someone’s mind.
Klaus


From:  on behalf of Andrew Revkin 

Reply-To: Andrew Revkin 
Date: Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 5:45 PM
To: Alan Robock 
Cc: Geoengineering 
Subject: Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker

Glad you stuck in there, Alan.

There actually was one other geoengineering question - asked by a Columbia 
student of Andrew Yang. His answer was pretty great:

https://twitter.com/Revkin/status/1169441473768710147

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:03 PM Alan Robock 
mailto:rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu>> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,

Last night I attended CNN's Climate Town Hall, and asked my Senator Cory Booker 
a question about solar geoengineering research.  You can see it starting at 
27:44 on 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIMD2E6DgE=PL29Rq0wvBhgOcY9ew5490FwzT5U5N6CqT=11=0s
  He immediately called me "Sir," and said he did not know anything about it, 
but would find out.  Today Rutgers got an email from his office asking for more 
information and I will explain what it is and why we need more resources for 
research.

I did not intend to embarrass him.  I submitted the same question to CNN to be 
asked of all 10 candidates, and they decided to invite me and have me ask it of 
my own Senator.  I spent 4 hours in the audience listening to Biden, Sanders, 
Warren, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, and Booker, and was the last person to ask a 
question.  It was a long time, but very interesting.  Mine was the only 
geoengineering question.  Booker referenced one, and it must have been to one 
of the four other candidates who appeared before my 4 hours.

The other interesting email I got today was the one below.  How do you 
recommend I answer?   My plan is to say that appearing there would give 
legitimacy to a "debate" about settled science.  I have not debated global 
warming deniers for years now for this reason.


Alan



Alan Robock, Distinguished Professor

  Associate Editor, Reviews of Geophysics

Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751

Rutgers UniversityE-mail: 
rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu

14 College Farm Road
http://people.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock

New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551  USA  ☮ 
http://twitter.com/AlanRobock


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:
INVITATION: Sept. 23 Debate on Global Climate Change and Need for Action
Date:
Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:11:59 +
From:
Jim Lakely 
To:
rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu 



Dr. Robock,



[NOTE: This letter is sent on behalf of Frank Lasée, president of The Heartland 
Institute.]



In the wake of your excellent public performance on CNN last night, The 
Heartland Institute would like to invite you to participate in an interactive 
discussion and debate on climate change in New York City on September 23 in 
conjunction with the United Nations Climate Action Summit. The goal of the 
Heartland Institute event is to broaden public knowledge about the most 
important and most discussed issues related to climate change.



The event will feature up to five climate experts and policymakers who warn of 
an imminent climate crisis, and up to five climate experts and policymakers who 
are skeptical of an asserted crisis. Each evenly matched side will be given 
equal time to make their case in a live event streamed globally on YouTube. 
Each participant will be given time to make an opening statement as well as 
answer questions posed by a moderator. One participant from each side will be 
allowed to present a final summary.



We welcome suggested questions from each side. The moderator’s questions may 
also 

Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker

[Hawkins, David]

The audience is not the people in the room.  The audience is the people who 
will receive the spin about the meeting and Heartland, not you, will control 
that activity.


From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Klaus Lackner 
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 2:16 PM
To: rev...@gmail.com ; Alan Robock 
Cc: Geoengineering 
Subject: Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker


You can’t convince people who are already convinced.  This email offers you an 
opportunity to change someone’s mind.

Klaus





From:  on behalf of Andrew Revkin 

Reply-To: Andrew Revkin 
Date: Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 5:45 PM
To: Alan Robock 
Cc: Geoengineering 
Subject: Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker



Glad you stuck in there, Alan.



There actually was one other geoengineering question - asked by a Columbia 
student of Andrew Yang. His answer was pretty great:



https://twitter.com/Revkin/status/1169441473768710147



On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:03 PM Alan Robock 
mailto:rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu>> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

Last night I attended CNN's Climate Town Hall, and asked my Senator Cory Booker 
a question about solar geoengineering research.  You can see it starting at 
27:44 on 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIMD2E6DgE=PL29Rq0wvBhgOcY9ew5490FwzT5U5N6CqT=11=0s
  He immediately called me "Sir," and said he did not know anything about it, 
but would find out.  Today Rutgers got an email from his office asking for more 
information and I will explain what it is and why we need more resources for 
research.

I did not intend to embarrass him.  I submitted the same question to CNN to be 
asked of all 10 candidates, and they decided to invite me and have me ask it of 
my own Senator.  I spent 4 hours in the audience listening to Biden, Sanders, 
Warren, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, and Booker, and was the last person to ask a 
question.  It was a long time, but very interesting.  Mine was the only 
geoengineering question.  Booker referenced one, and it must have been to one 
of the four other candidates who appeared before my 4 hours.

The other interesting email I got today was the one below.  How do you 
recommend I answer?   My plan is to say that appearing there would give 
legitimacy to a "debate" about settled science.  I have not debated global 
warming deniers for years now for this reason.


Alan



Alan Robock, Distinguished Professor

  Associate Editor, Reviews of Geophysics

Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751

Rutgers UniversityE-mail: 
rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu

14 College Farm Road
http://people.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock

New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551  USA  ☮ 
http://twitter.com/AlanRobock


 Forwarded Message 

Subject:

INVITATION: Sept. 23 Debate on Global Climate Change and Need for Action

Date:

Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:11:59 +

From:

Jim Lakely 

To:

rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu 




Dr. Robock,



[NOTE: This letter is sent on behalf of Frank Lasée, president of The Heartland 
Institute.]



In the wake of your excellent public performance on CNN last night, The 
Heartland Institute would like to invite you to participate in an interactive 
discussion and debate on climate change in New York City on September 23 in 
conjunction with the United Nations Climate Action Summit. The goal of the 
Heartland Institute event is to broaden public knowledge about the most 
important and most discussed issues related to climate change.



The event will feature up to five climate experts and policymakers who warn of 
an imminent climate crisis, and up to five climate experts 

Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker

[Gernot Wagner]

Indeed. The very fact that they are staging a "debate" -- and e.g. pretend
its somehow linked to UN climate week -- is bad news all around. For what
it's worth, they've been making the rounds among climate
scientists/economists, (fortunately) only getting rejections, as far as I
can tell.

One strong vote to simply ignore.

Cheers,
G

*Gernot Wagner, **New York University*
gwagner.com
*Keep in touch: *gwagner.com/#newsletter



On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 2:19 PM Hawkins, David  wrote:

> The audience is not the people in the room.  The audience is the people
> who will receive the spin about the meeting and Heartland, not you, will
> control that activity.
>
> --
> *From:* geoengineering@googlegroups.com 
> on behalf of Klaus Lackner 
> *Sent:* Friday, September 6, 2019 2:16 PM
> *To:* rev...@gmail.com ; Alan Robock <
> rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu>
> *Cc:* Geoengineering 
> *Subject:* Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker
>
>
> You can’t convince people who are already convinced.  This email offers
> you an opportunity to change someone’s mind.
>
> Klaus
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: * on behalf of Andrew Revkin <
> rev...@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *Andrew Revkin 
> *Date: *Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 5:45 PM
> *To: *Alan Robock 
> *Cc: *Geoengineering 
> *Subject: *Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker
>
>
>
> Glad you stuck in there, Alan.
>
>
>
> There actually was one other geoengineering question - asked by a Columbia
> student of Andrew Yang. His answer was pretty great:
>
>
>
> https://twitter.com/Revkin/status/1169441473768710147
> 
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:03 PM Alan Robock 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Last night I attended CNN's Climate Town Hall, and asked my Senator Cory
> Booker a question about solar geoengineering research.  You can see it
> starting at 27:44 on
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIMD2E6DgE=PL29Rq0wvBhgOcY9ew5490FwzT5U5N6CqT=11=0s
> 
> He immediately called me "Sir," and said he did not know anything about it,
> but would find out.  Today Rutgers got an email from his office asking for
> more information and I will explain what it is and why we need more
> resources for research.
>
> I did not intend to embarrass him.  I submitted the same question to CNN
> to be asked of all 10 candidates, and they decided to invite me and have me
> ask it of my own Senator.  I spent 4 hours in the audience listening to
> Biden, Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, and Booker, and was the last
> person to ask a question.  It was a long time, but very interesting.  Mine
> was the only geoengineering question.  Booker referenced one, and it must
> have been to one of the four other candidates who appeared before my 4
> hours.
>
> The other interesting email I got today was the one below.  How do you
> recommend I answer?   My plan is to say that appearing there would give
> legitimacy to a "debate" about settled science.  I have not debated global
> warming deniers for years now for this reason.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> Alan Robock, Distinguished Professor
>
>   Associate Editor, Reviews of Geophysics
>
> Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751
>
> Rutgers UniversityE-mail: rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu
>
> 14 College Farm Roadhttp://people.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock 
> 
>
> New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551  USA  ☮ http://twitter.com/AlanRobock 
> 
>
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
>
> *Subject: *
>
> INVITATION: Sept. 23 Debate on Global Climate Change and Need for Action
>
> *Date: *
>
> Thu, 5 Sep 2019 13:11:59 +
>
> *From: *
>
> Jim Lakely  
>
> *To: *
>
> rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu 
> 
>
>
>
> Dr. Robock,
>
>
>
> [*NOTE: This letter is sent on behalf of Frank Lasée, president of The
> Heartland Institute.*]
>
>
>
> 

Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker

[Alan Robock]

Yes, I already told them no.  I just thought others would find this request 
interesting.

Alan



On 9/6/2019 2:23 PM, Gernot Wagner wrote:
Indeed. The very fact that they are staging a "debate" -- and e.g. pretend its 
somehow linked to UN climate week -- is bad news all around. For what it's 
worth, they've been making the rounds among climate scientists/economists, 
(fortunately) only getting rejections, as far as I can tell.

One strong vote to simply ignore.

Cheers,
G


Gernot Wagner, New York University
gwagner.com
Keep in touch: gwagner.com/#newsletter


On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 2:19 PM Hawkins, David 
mailto:dhawk...@nrdc.org>> wrote:
The audience is not the people in the room.  The audience is the people who 
will receive the spin about the meeting and Heartland, not you, will control 
that activity.


From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com 
mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com>> on 
behalf of Klaus Lackner mailto:klaus.lack...@asu.edu>>
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 2:16 PM
To: rev...@gmail.com 
mailto:rev...@gmail.com>>; Alan Robock 
mailto:rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu>>
Cc: Geoengineering 
mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker


You can’t convince people who are already convinced.  This email offers you an 
opportunity to change someone’s mind.

Klaus





From: mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com>> 
on behalf of Andrew Revkin mailto:rev...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: Andrew Revkin mailto:rev...@gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 5:45 PM
To: Alan Robock mailto:rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu>>
Cc: Geoengineering 
mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [geo] My CNN geoengineering question to Sen. Cory Booker



Glad you stuck in there, Alan.



There actually was one other geoengineering question - asked by a Columbia 
student of Andrew Yang. His answer was pretty great:



https://twitter.com/Revkin/status/1169441473768710147



On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:03 PM Alan Robock 
mailto:rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu>> wrote:

Dear Colleagues,

Last night I attended CNN's Climate Town Hall, and asked my Senator Cory Booker 
a question about solar geoengineering research.  You can see it starting at 
27:44 on 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHIMD2E6DgE=PL29Rq0wvBhgOcY9ew5490FwzT5U5N6CqT=11=0s
  He immediately called me "Sir," and said he did not know anything about it, 
but would find out.  Today Rutgers got an email from his office asking for more 
information and I will explain what it is and why we need more resources for 
research.

I did not intend to embarrass him.  I submitted the same question to CNN to be 
asked of all 10 candidates, and they decided to invite me and have me ask it of 
my own Senator.  I spent 4 hours in the audience listening to Biden, Sanders, 
Warren, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, and Booker, and was the last person to ask a 
question.  It was a long time, but very interesting.  Mine was the only 
geoengineering question.  Booker referenced one, and it must have been to one 
of the four other candidates who appeared before my 4 hours.

The other interesting email I got today was the one below.  How do you 
recommend I answer?   My plan is to say that appearing there would give 
legitimacy to a "debate" about settled science.  I have not debated global 
warming deniers for years now for this reason.


Alan



Alan Robock, Distinguished Professor

  Associate Editor, Reviews of Geophysics

Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751

Rutgers UniversityE-mail: 
rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu

14 College Farm Road
http://people.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock

New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551  USA  ☮ 

[geo] Re: Green New Deal For Europe and Geoengineering

[p.j.irvine]

Hi Gideon,

I'd be interested in helping out here. 

Pete

On Monday, 2 September 2019 04:42:53 UTC-4, Gideon Futerman wrote:
>
> Today Green New deal for Europe released their draft report for public 
> consultation, where they speak extensively in Appendix A about 
> geoengineering, both CDR and SRM, essentially rejecting them as part of a 
> possible solution. Interestingly, they have very few citations when 
> discussing SRM, as compared to CDR. This is open for public consultation, 
> and so, if anyone has any critiscms, it may be an idea to submit them to 
> the GND for Europe movement.
>
> https://report.gndforeurope.com/cms/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/GNDE-A-Blueprint-for-Europes-Just-Transition.pdf
>  
> The geoengineering section is on page 64
>

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[geo] HUMOR & GEOENGINEERING

[Andrew Lockley]

https://geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/event/humor-geoengineering

HUMOR & GEOENGINEERING
Date:
Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 12:00pm to 1:00pm
Location:
Harvard University Center for the Environment, 26 Oxford Street, Room 429

"Humor & Geoengineering"

Humor, like geoengineering, is about the clash between what is and what
could be. In this unconventional, interactive session,
researcher-turned-humanitarian Pablo Suarez and illustrious cartoonist Bob
Mankoff will engage participants in exploring how the power of intelligent
humor can be harnessed to support learning and dialogue about difficult
issues. Focusing on climate risks and the prospects of geoengineering, we
will share an experience of how humor works, how it can be used and
misused, and what it can do to enable fruitful discussions about tough
issues.

Presentation by:
Pablo Suarez

, Red Cross Red Crescent Climate Centre 
Bob Mankoff , CartoonCollections

Lunch Provided
RSVP: acchang [at] seas.harvard.edu

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Re: [geo] HUMOR & GEOENGINEERING

[Greg Rau]

Bob Mankoff, ex cartoon editor of The New Yorker?! Anyway, I think we all could 
use some humor right about now.
Greg

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Andrew Lockley  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://geoengineering.environment.harvard.edu/event/humor-geoengineering
> 
> HUMOR & GEOENGINEERING
> Date: 
> Tuesday, September 17, 2019, 12:00pm to 1:00pm
> Location: 
> Harvard University Center for the Environment, 26 Oxford Street, Room 429
> "Humor & Geoengineering"
> 
> Humor, like geoengineering, is about the clash between what is and what could 
> be. In this unconventional, interactive session, 
> researcher-turned-humanitarian Pablo Suarez and illustrious cartoonist Bob 
> Mankoff will engage participants in exploring how the power of intelligent 
> humor can be harnessed to support learning and dialogue about difficult 
> issues. Focusing on climate risks and the prospects of geoengineering, we 
> will share an experience of how humor works, how it can be used and misused, 
> and what it can do to enable fruitful discussions about tough issues.
> 
> Presentation by:
> Pablo Suarez, Red Cross Red Crescent Climate Centre
> Bob Mankoff, CartoonCollections
> 
> Lunch Provided
> RSVP: acchang [at] seas.harvard.edu
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[geo] Technology Review article, including geoengineering

[Alan Robock]

“Four tech takeaways from the climate town hall,” by James Temple, 
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/614274/four-tech-takeaways-from-the-climate-townhall/

Geoengineering’s public moment

Yang would also earmark $800 million for research into geoengineering—the idea 
of cooling the planet by using various technologies to reflect away more of the 
sun’s heat. His plan mentions “launching giant foldable mirrors into space” as 
a possible emergency response.

(See “What is geoengineering—and why should you 
care?”)

Whether we can safely research geoengineering, let alone conduct it, is still 
hotly debated within academia. And it’s not remotely a mainstream idea in the 
US yet.

But Yang said on stage that space mirrors (by the way, not the approach most 
academic researchers are focused on) should be part of the climate debate. 
While stressing 
that
 geoengineering shouldn’t be the “main approach,” he added that “in a crisis, 
all solutions need to be on the table.”

Surprisingly, the topic came up again later in the evening. Alan Robock, a 
Rutgers professor who has published a 
list of 
risks of geoengineering, asked Booker what he thought of the idea. Booker, to 
his credit, simply 
said
 he didn’t know enough about it to take a firm position.

--
Alan

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  Associate Editor, Reviews of Geophysics
Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751
Rutgers UniversityE-mail: 
rob...@envsci.rutgers.edu
14 College Farm Roadhttp://people.envsci.rutgers.edu/robock
New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551  USA  ☮ http://twitter.com/AlanRobock

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[geo] Fwd: Join us for the Climate Restoration Forum

[Andrew Lockley]

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