Re: BBC Ceases To Use MP3...

2015-02-09 Thread Steven Carr
On 9 February 2015 at 14:55, CJB chrisjbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 ... well - at least for the Radio Lancashire folk prog. 'The Drift.'
 This used to download in MP3 format along with hundreds of #'s. Now it
 appears to be in M4A - the Beeb's usual format for audios. Just an
 observation. CJB.

I add the following flags to get it back to MP3 (and in a format where
iTunes recognizes it as a podcast and doesn't screw with it)...

--tag-podcast-radio --aactomp3

Steve

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Re: BBC Ceases To Use MP3...

2015-02-09 Thread Vangelis forthnet

On Mon Feb 9 22:24:53 GMT 2015, Christopher Woods wrote:


I use (used!) the AAC Shoutcast streams and it'll be a loss to me
as they're also being canned.
But it's like arguing with the wind to expect a Shoutcast CDN to be kept 
running

just so me and half a dozen others can listen to unicast AAC... ;)


Hello Christopher :-)

I am one of the 6 (LOL!) others that have been enjoying
the Shoutcast AAC live streams over the course of the last 3 years!
Delivered over HTTP, they were a rock-steady alternative to
the iffy RTMP ones, delivered via the Flash plugin in iPlayerRadio...
I had bookmarked the direct stream URLs in Winamp, laptop
connected to Hi-Fi Amp and I could easily listen to National Radios
in very good quality...
Recording the icy (aac) streams with VLC was a plus, too!
Previously, I had experimented with the RTMP streams and
get_iplayer (both for streaming to VLC and downloading),
but in practice this was quite unreliable... :-(
I do not lament the demise of the WMA live streams;
the overseas version was just 48kbps, which sounded
considerably worse than AAC-LC@56kbps or even
HE-AACv2@48kbps ! (It has to be said though that
the [UK] version of wma@128kbps - quite difficult to access
from overseas - was comparable (better?) to the
shoutcast aaclc@128kbps one!).
Recording and editing those WMA streams
was a hassle too!

While the mediaselector/5 API continues to produce
icy stream data for all available AAC mediasets
(http-icy-aac-lc-a, http-icy-aac-lc-b, http-icy-he-aacv2-a), e.g.

http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/vpid/bbc_radio_two/
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-b/vpid/bbc_radio_two/
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-he-aacv2-a/vpid/bbc_radio_two/

when those stream data (href=) are fed to Winamp,
it prints: [HTTP/1.0 404 File Not Found]
There is one notable exception to this
at the time of writing: BBC Radio 3!

http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/vpid/bbc_radio_three/
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-b/vpid/bbc_radio_three/
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-he-aacv2-a/vpid/bbc_radio_three/

all produce still working AAC streams (mediaset=http-icy-aac-lc-b is 
UK-only).



We are retiring our SHOUTcast streams that use the AAC codec.
The AAC SHOUTcast streams were only available for the national networks.


While I was well aware of the foretold death of the WMA (live+AOD) streams,
this came in as a true surprise and caused me grief...

We have retained a single SHOUTcast stream of each service using the mp3 
codec


For anyone interested, this can be accessed by using 
mediaset=http-icy-mp3-a;

a template URL would be:

http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/vpid/[vpid]/format/pls.pls

For National Radios, [vpid]= any of:
bbc_radio_one
bbc_radio_two
bbc_radio_three
bbc_radio_fourfm
bbc_radio_four_extra
bbc_radio_five_live
bbc_radio_five_live_sports_extra
bbc_6music
bbc_asian_network
bbc_world_service

These MP3 streams are all @128kbpsCBR/44.1KHz
(even for Radio 3), except for World Service, which is
a measly 48kbps!


All our services are now available in HLS and HDS, using the AAC codec.
By the summer we hope to have these streams available
in the non-proprietary DASH format.
(snip)
we are concentrating our efforts around HLS, HDS and DASH.


1. Recording HLS streams is feasible via FFmpeg.
2. HDS (capture) support in FFmpeg is still in its infancy:
http://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/1964
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.ffmpeg.devel/171211
http://lists.ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2014-February/154612.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org/msg03387.html
https://gitorious.org/neutrino-hd/martiis-buildsystem-cs/commit/421cdc974a89838c521e217e244183cbcd4d95ef
The nightly VLC 3.0.0 has also some HDS recording capabilities...
But I find that AdobeHDS.php script (by KSV) is working
wonders with the Beeb's HDS streams!
3. Does anyone know of a way to capture MPEG-DASH live streams?
By the summer, though vague, is not too far in the future!

Most kind regards,
Vangelis. 



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New Linux Installation Question

2015-02-09 Thread Budge
I have managed to mess up my RAID configuration and have taken advantage
to install new drives and upgrade OS so am installing GiP ab initio
following wiki instructions to the letter.  Two questions:-

Is the github .../wiki/release291 the one to install?\

I have a problem with permissions/ownership.  I have followed wiki and
put file in /usr/local/bin (which is in path) but when I try to run from
cli in bash  I get

ERROR: /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is not writable - aborting update
(maybe a package manager was used to install get_iplayer?).  I am logged
in correctly as user and the permissions are -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
423921 Feb  9 18:16 get_iplayer, which tells me that user should be able
to write.  Is it an environment issue or am I just losing it?  Never had
this problem before.

Budgie  




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Unable to download a pid

2015-02-09 Thread Arthur Murray
Trying to get this in HD:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04xw2x8

It fails to get (404):
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/b04zq2w0?cb=99015

But

http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/b0520nmw/atk/a091b745f823050f50ad145c7a0a21b470e0907e/asn/1/

contains the link to the HD stream according to

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04xw2x8/the-superrich-and-us-episode-1

How do I get gip to use it?

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Re: Synology

2015-02-09 Thread Rob Dixon

On 09/02/2015 21:09, Dennis Smith wrote:


Hi guys, Anyone know if there is an easy way to install Get_iPlayer to
my Synology NAS, even if all I get is a basic web interface with E.G.
nearly blank webpage to look at and a box to paste a URL into and a
download button, defaulting to a dedicated download folder?

Anything like this would be ideal, anything more a bonus.


Hello Dennis

The release notes for version 2.85 say


Patched to work with Perl on Synology NAS


The commits were done by Dinky Pumpkin, so I imagine he will be able to
tell you what that implies.

Rob




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Re: New Linux Installation Question

2015-02-09 Thread Topsy
It sounds like you installed get_iplayer as root in which case root owns 
the file so rwxrxrx would give root full permissions, group members and 
others read/execute only. As root, run:

chmod 777 get_iplayer

To give everyone write permission but this is not safe on a multiuser 
system.


Topsy

On 09/02/15 20:50, Budge wrote:

Hi and thanks for the advice.  I had understood however that

-rwxr-xr-x 1 meant that user had write permissions.  I could of course change 
ownership but why have I not had this issue before?



On 02/09/2015 07:18 PM, artisticforge . wrote:

hello
If you are running /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer as anyone other than
root and /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is attempting to update itself the
error you are receiving to correct. No one except root has write
premissions on /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer

You need to provide the exact command line that you are using that
cause the error.

it does appear that /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is attempting to update
itself and failing miserably




On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:

I have managed to mess up my RAID configuration and have taken advantage
to install new drives and upgrade OS so am installing GiP ab initio
following wiki instructions to the letter.  Two questions:-

Is the github .../wiki/release291 the one to install?\

I have a problem with permissions/ownership.  I have followed wiki and
put file in /usr/local/bin (which is in path) but when I try to run from
cli in bash  I get

ERROR: /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is not writable - aborting update
(maybe a package manager was used to install get_iplayer?).  I am logged
in correctly as user and the permissions are -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
423921 Feb  9 18:16 get_iplayer, which tells me that user should be able
to write.  Is it an environment issue or am I just losing it?  Never had
this problem before.

Budgie




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Re: New Linux Installation Question

2015-02-09 Thread Colin Law
On 9 February 2015 at 20:50, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:
 Hi and thanks for the advice.  I had understood however that

 -rwxr-xr-x 1 meant that user had write permissions.  I could of course change 
 ownership but why have I not had this issue before?

That says that the owner has write permission.  But who is the owner?
ls -l /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer
will tell you.

Most likely the owner is root, as you probably used sudo to put the file there.

Colin




 On 02/09/2015 07:18 PM, artisticforge . wrote:
 hello
 If you are running /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer as anyone other than
 root and /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is attempting to update itself the
 error you are receiving to correct. No one except root has write
 premissions on /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer

 You need to provide the exact command line that you are using that
 cause the error.

 it does appear that /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is attempting to update
 itself and failing miserably




 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:
 I have managed to mess up my RAID configuration and have taken advantage
 to install new drives and upgrade OS so am installing GiP ab initio
 following wiki instructions to the letter.  Two questions:-

 Is the github .../wiki/release291 the one to install?\

 I have a problem with permissions/ownership.  I have followed wiki and
 put file in /usr/local/bin (which is in path) but when I try to run from
 cli in bash  I get

 ERROR: /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is not writable - aborting update
 (maybe a package manager was used to install get_iplayer?).  I am logged
 in correctly as user and the permissions are -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
 423921 Feb  9 18:16 get_iplayer, which tells me that user should be able
 to write.  Is it an environment issue or am I just losing it?  Never had
 this problem before.

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Synology

2015-02-09 Thread Dennis Smith
Hi guys, Anyone know if there is an easy way to install Get_iPlayer to
my Synology NAS, even if all I get is a basic web interface with E.G.
nearly blank webpage to look at and a box to paste a URL into and a
download button, defaulting to a dedicated download folder?

Anything like this would be ideal, anything more a bonus.

Dennis Smith
M1DLG

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Re: New Linux Installation Question

2015-02-09 Thread Budge
Hi and thanks for the advice.  I had understood however that

-rwxr-xr-x 1 meant that user had write permissions.  I could of course change 
ownership but why have I not had this issue before?



On 02/09/2015 07:18 PM, artisticforge . wrote:
 hello
 If you are running /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer as anyone other than
 root and /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is attempting to update itself the
 error you are receiving to correct. No one except root has write
 premissions on /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer

 You need to provide the exact command line that you are using that
 cause the error.

 it does appear that /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is attempting to update
 itself and failing miserably




 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:
 I have managed to mess up my RAID configuration and have taken advantage
 to install new drives and upgrade OS so am installing GiP ab initio
 following wiki instructions to the letter.  Two questions:-

 Is the github .../wiki/release291 the one to install?\

 I have a problem with permissions/ownership.  I have followed wiki and
 put file in /usr/local/bin (which is in path) but when I try to run from
 cli in bash  I get

 ERROR: /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is not writable - aborting update
 (maybe a package manager was used to install get_iplayer?).  I am logged
 in correctly as user and the permissions are -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
 423921 Feb  9 18:16 get_iplayer, which tells me that user should be able
 to write.  Is it an environment issue or am I just losing it?  Never had
 this problem before.

 Budgie




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Re: Synology

2015-02-09 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 09:09:15PM +, Dennis Smith wrote:
Hi guys, Anyone know if there is an easy way to install Get_iPlayer to
my Synology NAS, even if all I get is a basic web interface with E.G.
nearly blank webpage to look at and a box to paste a URL into and a
download button, defaulting to a dedicated download folder?

Anything like this would be ideal, anything more a bonus.

Can you get a command prompt on the NAS? (I know nothing about the
things.)

Have you considered getting a Raspberry Pi or similar cheap and open
device, giving it write access to the NAS, and running get_iplayer
there?

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Re: New Linux Installation Question

2015-02-09 Thread Colin Law
On 9 February 2015 at 21:39, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:

 On 02/09/2015 09:04 PM, Colin Law wrote:
 On 9 February 2015 at 20:50, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:
 Hi and thanks for the advice.  I had understood however that

 -rwxr-xr-x 1 meant that user had write permissions.  I could of course 
 change ownership but why have I not had this issue before?
 That says that the owner has write permission.  But who is the owner?
 ls -l /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer
 will tell you.

 Most likely the owner is root, as you probably used sudo to put the file 
 there.

 Colin


 Hi Colin,
 Yes root is the owner.  File is in /usr/local/bin.  What is best/correct
 approach, to give everyone permission, change it temporarily or change
 ownership?

You should not give everyone permission to it.

Someone asked earlier what command you were running that gave this
error.  It should only happen if get-iplayer is attempting an update.

In fact it is not a good idea to install manually into that folder
anyway.  If you were to install get-iplayer from the repository it
would overwrite it.  It would be more usual to manually install to
/usr/local/bin, though that wil not affect the permissions issue.

Colin

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Re: New Linux Installation Question

2015-02-09 Thread Budge

On 02/09/2015 09:04 PM, Colin Law wrote:
 On 9 February 2015 at 20:50, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:
 Hi and thanks for the advice.  I had understood however that

 -rwxr-xr-x 1 meant that user had write permissions.  I could of course 
 change ownership but why have I not had this issue before?
 That says that the owner has write permission.  But who is the owner?
 ls -l /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer
 will tell you.

 Most likely the owner is root, as you probably used sudo to put the file 
 there.

 Colin


Hi Colin,
Yes root is the owner.  File is in /usr/local/bin.  What is best/correct
approach, to give everyone permission, change it temporarily or change
ownership?
Budge

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Re: New Linux Installation Question

2015-02-09 Thread artisticforge .
Hello Colin;

He has ignored the request for the command line which caused the error.
It is becoming clear that he is confused about permissions under Linux.

When he provides the command line further help may be rendered until then
it is a waste of time.


On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 9 February 2015 at 21:39, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:

 On 02/09/2015 09:04 PM, Colin Law wrote:
 On 9 February 2015 at 20:50, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:
 Hi and thanks for the advice.  I had understood however that

 -rwxr-xr-x 1 meant that user had write permissions.  I could of course 
 change ownership but why have I not had this issue before?
 That says that the owner has write permission.  But who is the owner?
 ls -l /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer
 will tell you.

 Most likely the owner is root, as you probably used sudo to put the file 
 there.

 Colin


 Hi Colin,
 Yes root is the owner.  File is in /usr/local/bin.  What is best/correct
 approach, to give everyone permission, change it temporarily or change
 ownership?

 You should not give everyone permission to it.

 Someone asked earlier what command you were running that gave this
 error.  It should only happen if get-iplayer is attempting an update.

 In fact it is not a good idea to install manually into that folder
 anyway.  If you were to install get-iplayer from the repository it
 would overwrite it.  It would be more usual to manually install to
 /usr/local/bin, though that wil not affect the permissions issue.

 Colin



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Re: BBC Ceases To Use MP3...

2015-02-09 Thread Christopher Woods
This is likely because they're now on Audio Factory. As of right now, 22 of 
the 40 LR stations are now on AF with the rest due to be migrated by Wednesday.


This will bring advantages in terms of a reduction in network complexity 
(seriously, it's a headache-inducing patchwork of different services and 
providers -- plus the audio quality of the old circuits is hugely variable 
and often quite ropey), and it'll bring a cost saving.


However, this means everything is moving to HLS/HDS (eventually also DASH) 
with no more WMA (or MP3). That I'm not so sad about. AAC has completely 
supplanted MP3 and I can't think of many (if any) devices that don't 
support it in hardware or via software update.


That said, there will remain a Shoutcast MP3 stream of Network stations for 
legacy internet radio devices - which won't be around for ever. I use 
(used!) the AAC Shoutcast streams and it'll be a loss to me as they're also 
being canned. But it's like arguing with the wind to expect a Shoutcast CDN 
to be kept running just so me and half a dozen others can listen to unicast 
AAC... ;)


More info published today from the manager of Audio Factory: 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/977a1954-658f-4fb2-a23c-71680c49882f



On 9 February 2015 15:04:47 Steven Carr sjc...@gmail.com wrote:


On 9 February 2015 at 14:55, CJB chrisjbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 ... well - at least for the Radio Lancashire folk prog. 'The Drift.'
 This used to download in MP3 format along with hundreds of #'s. Now it
 appears to be in M4A - the Beeb's usual format for audios. Just an
 observation. CJB.

I add the following flags to get it back to MP3 (and in a format where
iTunes recognizes it as a podcast and doesn't screw with it)...

--tag-podcast-radio --aactomp3

Steve

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Re: Synology

2015-02-09 Thread Budge

On 02/09/2015 10:29 PM, Roger Bell_West wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 09:09:15PM +, Dennis Smith wrote:
 Hi guys, Anyone know if there is an easy way to install Get_iPlayer to
 my Synology NAS, even if all I get is a basic web interface with E.G.
 nearly blank webpage to look at and a box to paste a URL into and a
 download button, defaulting to a dedicated download folder?

 Anything like this would be ideal, anything more a bonus.
 Can you get a command prompt on the NAS? (I know nothing about the
 things.)

 Have you considered getting a Raspberry Pi or similar cheap and open
 device, giving it write access to the NAS, and running get_iplayer
 there?

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Good luck with the Synology Dennis.  I use Qnap so cannot help but there
is a good deal about getting into the system using telnet etc. if you
google and ask on Synology forum I guess.  It is becoming more difficult
as makers of these devices do not encourage.

Meanwhile do you, Roger,  have any idea why this reply came to my
private email address and not the list?  I ask as I am just installing
new OS and wonder if I have set up email client incorrectly.

Budge

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Re: Synology

2015-02-09 Thread Budge

On 02/09/2015 11:43 PM, Budge wrote:
 On 02/09/2015 10:29 PM, Roger Bell_West wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 09:09:15PM +, Dennis Smith wrote:
 Hi guys, Anyone know if there is an easy way to install Get_iPlayer to
 my Synology NAS, even if all I get is a basic web interface with E.G.
 nearly blank webpage to look at and a box to paste a URL into and a
 download button, defaulting to a dedicated download folder?

 Anything like this would be ideal, anything more a bonus.
 Can you get a command prompt on the NAS? (I know nothing about the
 things.)

 Have you considered getting a Raspberry Pi or similar cheap and open
 device, giving it write access to the NAS, and running get_iplayer
 there?

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 Good luck with the Synology Dennis.  I use Qnap so cannot help but there
 is a good deal about getting into the system using telnet etc. if you
 google and ask on Synology forum I guess.  It is becoming more difficult
 as makers of these devices do not encourage.

 Meanwhile do you, Roger,  have any idea why this reply came to my
 private email address and not the list?  I ask as I am just installing
 new OS and wonder if I have set up email client incorrectly.

 Budge

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Re: New Linux Installation Question

2015-02-09 Thread Budge

On 02/09/2015 09:49 PM, Colin Law wrote:
 On 9 February 2015 at 21:39, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:
 On 02/09/2015 09:04 PM, Colin Law wrote:
 On 9 February 2015 at 20:50, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:
 Hi and thanks for the advice.  I had understood however that

 -rwxr-xr-x 1 meant that user had write permissions.  I could of course 
 change ownership but why have I not had this issue before?
 That says that the owner has write permission.  But who is the owner?
 ls -l /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer
 will tell you.

 Most likely the owner is root, as you probably used sudo to put the file 
 there.

 Colin


 Hi Colin,
 Yes root is the owner.  File is in /usr/local/bin.  What is best/correct
 approach, to give everyone permission, change it temporarily or change
 ownership?
 You should not give everyone permission to it.

 Someone asked earlier what command you were running that gave this
 error.  It should only happen if get-iplayer is attempting an update.

 In fact it is not a good idea to install manually into that folder
 anyway.  If you were to install get-iplayer from the repository it
 would overwrite it.  It would be more usual to manually install to
 /usr/local/bin, though that wil not affect the permissions issue.

 Colin
  
Hi Colin,
The problem occurred when I ran get_iplayer from my home directory for
the first time, which is when the plugins are sorted out.
I cannot follow your last paragraph which appears contradictory.  I did
install into /usr/local/bin manually as per wiki and I have sorted out
problem now.
The only remaining issue which always causes a problem on a new
installation is getting AtomicParsley installed and working, especially
using pvr and a cron job.  Will call for help if needed.  Thanks again
meanwhile.
Budge

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Re: New Linux Installation Question

2015-02-09 Thread artisticforge .
hello
If you are running /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer as anyone other than
root and /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is attempting to update itself the
error you are receiving to correct. No one except root has write
premissions on /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer

You need to provide the exact command line that you are using that
cause the error.

it does appear that /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is attempting to update
itself and failing miserably




On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Budge aje...@errichel.co.uk wrote:
 I have managed to mess up my RAID configuration and have taken advantage
 to install new drives and upgrade OS so am installing GiP ab initio
 following wiki instructions to the letter.  Two questions:-

 Is the github .../wiki/release291 the one to install?\

 I have a problem with permissions/ownership.  I have followed wiki and
 put file in /usr/local/bin (which is in path) but when I try to run from
 cli in bash  I get

 ERROR: /usr/local/bin/get_iplayer is not writable - aborting update
 (maybe a package manager was used to install get_iplayer?).  I am logged
 in correctly as user and the permissions are -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
 423921 Feb  9 18:16 get_iplayer, which tells me that user should be able
 to write.  Is it an environment issue or am I just losing it?  Never had
 this problem before.

 Budgie




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