Re: BBC Clifton API JSON data (attn: Martin Powell)

[Martin Powell]

And you can't beat a good lurker!!!

Martin
On 03/12/17 12:29, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Martin,


Unfortunately [AOB is] also ignored by almost everyone else so I
would say you're much more likely to get feedback here on the list
with this type of topic :-)

Are people happy with the mailing list approach

I think technical get_iplayer discussion is perfectly on-topic for here.
(I don't like web forums so just stick to mailing lists generally,
I suspect other lurkers here are the same.)




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Re: BBC Clifton API JSON data (attn: Martin Powell)

[Martin Powell]

Hi Everyone, it's Martin here.

Are people happy with the mailing list approach, or do people think that 
the 'AOB' section would be better??


I'd go for the mailing list, but if anybody really wants the AOB, I'm 
sure it can be done.


Martin


On 01/12/17 20:20, SquarePenguin wrote:

On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 11:24 +0100, Mike Ralphson wrote:

As we got shown the door at the forum, I hope it's not too off-topic to post
this here.

Yes sorry about that. That thread did draw Dinky's ire.

Normally off-topic stuff is just moved to the 'Any other business' sub-forum[0]
in the Off-Topic parent forum (it's down the bottom of the forum homepage).

I know there is a bit of a cross over with these topics sometimes so feel free
to post this sort of thread there. It is welcome, and that group of Off-topic
forums is ignored by Dinky.

Unfortunately it's also ignored by almost everyone else so I would say you're
much more likely to get feedback here on the list with this type of topic :-)

The folks here are great and the forums site has quite a different focus as
really it's aimed at a lot of the 'drive by' support stuff rather than in depth
technical detail or discussion (unless it's s reproducible bug).

The Off-Topic section is a move to give some of the regular visitors over in the
forums a place to expand the discussion, but it's not really a focus of that
place at all. So I guess my message is - no harm in posting to both places if
you wish in the future but here's probably your best bet.


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RE: BBC Clifton API JSON data (attn: Martin Powell)

[George Eycott]

Hmm, I do get the impression that DP has adopted a "my way or the highway"
approach, but to be fair, he does this without getting paid and while trying
to keep under the radar from Aunty. There is no way I could maintain the
code and no-one else seems to be offering an alternative since the demise of
Radio Downloader (I primarily use GIP for radio rather than TV).

I am just grateful for what I can get!

> -Original Message-
> From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On
> Behalf Of Owen Smith
> Sent: 01 December 2017 22:40
> To: get_iplayer
> Subject: Re: BBC Clifton API JSON data (attn: Martin Powell)
> 
> Yes well, Dinky's attitude over the last couple of years has gradually
driven
> me away from get_iplayer. There used to be support and encouragement for
> users with more technical knowledge and that had an interest in improving
> features. Now that all seems to be frowned on despite it still being the
same
> maintainer. It's really put me off.
> 
> --
> Owen Smith <owen.sm...@cantab.net>
> Cambridge, UK
> 
> > On 1 Dec 2017, at 20:20, SquarePenguin
> <getipla...@squarepenguin.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 11:24 +0100, Mike Ralphson wrote:
> >> As we got shown the door at the forum, I hope it's not too off-topic to
> post
> >> this here.
> >
> > Yes sorry about that. That thread did draw Dinky's ire.
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Re: BBC Clifton API JSON data (attn: Martin Powell)

[Owen Smith]

Yes well, Dinky's attitude over the last couple of years has gradually driven 
me away from get_iplayer. There used to be support and encouragement for users 
with more technical knowledge and that had an interest in improving features. 
Now that all seems to be frowned on despite it still being the same maintainer. 
It's really put me off.

-- 
Owen Smith 
Cambridge, UK

> On 1 Dec 2017, at 20:20, SquarePenguin  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 11:24 +0100, Mike Ralphson wrote:
>> As we got shown the door at the forum, I hope it's not too off-topic to post
>> this here.
> 
> Yes sorry about that. That thread did draw Dinky's ire.
> 
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Re: BBC Clifton API JSON data (attn: Martin Powell)

[SquarePenguin]

On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 11:24 +0100, Mike Ralphson wrote:
> As we got shown the door at the forum, I hope it's not too off-topic to post
> this here.

Yes sorry about that. That thread did draw Dinky's ire.

Normally off-topic stuff is just moved to the 'Any other business' sub-forum[0]
in the Off-Topic parent forum (it's down the bottom of the forum homepage).

I know there is a bit of a cross over with these topics sometimes so feel free
to post this sort of thread there. It is welcome, and that group of Off-topic
forums is ignored by Dinky.

Unfortunately it's also ignored by almost everyone else so I would say you're
much more likely to get feedback here on the list with this type of topic :-)

The folks here are great and the forums site has quite a different focus as
really it's aimed at a lot of the 'drive by' support stuff rather than in depth
technical detail or discussion (unless it's s reproducible bug). 

The Off-Topic section is a move to give some of the regular visitors over in the
forums a place to expand the discussion, but it's not really a focus of that
place at all. So I guess my message is - no harm in posting to both places if
you wish in the future but here's probably your best bet.


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Re: BBC Clifton API JSON data (attn: Martin Powell)

[RS]

From: Mike Ralphson
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 10:24 AM

As we got shown the door at the forum, I hope it's not too off-topic to 
post this here.


To clarify, this data is not mine or generated by me, it comes straight 
from the BBC's replacement for the data sources they shut down back in 
April/May. It *could* be used by >get_iplayer to reinstate the lost 
category information, should the maintainer so wish.


I had not seen this discussion on the forum, and I have never used 
categories, but if anyone wants to read it the link is here.

https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=1600




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Re: BBC Clifton API JSON data (attn: Martin Powell)

[RS]

From: Mike Ralphson
Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 10:24 AM

As we got shown the door at the forum, I hope it's not too off-topic to 
post this here.


To clarify, this data is not mine or generated by me, it comes straight 
from the BBC's replacement for the data sources they shut down back in 
April/May. It *could* be used by >get_iplayer to reinstate the lost 
category information, should the maintainer so wish.


I had not seen this discussion on the forum, and I have never used 
categories, but if anyone wants to read it the link is here.

https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=1600




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Re: BBC Clifton API JSON data (attn: Martin Powell)

[Mark Carroll]

On 01 Dec 2017, Mike Ralphson wrote:

> As we got shown the door at the forum, I hope it's not too off-topic
> to post this here.

Thank you for sharing. I was planning to get around to doing a bit of
get-iplayer-related scripting and this would be easy to work into it.
It's always hard to know how much effort to invest without any long-term
assurance of service availability but some simple JSON parsing isn't too
much cost to sink.

> To clarify, this data is not mine or generated by me, it comes straight from
> the BBC's replacement for the data sources they shut down back in April/May.
> It *could* be used by get_iplayer to reinstate the lost category information,
> should the maintainer so wish.

When we had it I did find the category information quite useful. For
instance, I can summarily ignore everything from "Relationships &
Romance"! (-:

-- Mark

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