Re: GHC 7.8 Release Status Schedule

2013-10-09 Thread Bryan O'Sullivan
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Austin Seipp aus...@well-typed.com wrote:

  - Nov 1st: Cut branch, and I plan on making a 7.8 RC1 available the
 same day, for several platforms.


Hi, Austin -

Thanks for writing this up.

One of the factors that's blocking my ability to build Hackage packages is
that Hackage does not contain versions of a number of bundled-with-GHC
packages that have versions matching the versions shipping with HEAD. It
would unblock that process somewhat if you were to upload new versions of
unix and various other packages that are not yet in sync fairly soon,
preferably well before cutting the branch. Thanks!
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Re: GHC 7.8 Release Status Schedule

2013-10-09 Thread Carter Schonwald
Indeed.  There's a few straggling things but overall we're in feature
freeze overall right now, right?

On Wednesday, October 9, 2013, Johan Tibell wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Bryan O'Sullivan 
 b...@serpentine.comjavascript:;
 wrote:
  One of the factors that's blocking my ability to build Hackage packages
 is
  that Hackage does not contain versions of a number of bundled-with-GHC
  packages that have versions matching the versions shipping with HEAD. It
  would unblock that process somewhat if you were to upload new versions of
  unix and various other packages that are not yet in sync fairly soon,
  preferably well before cutting the branch. Thanks!

 +1. Forgetting to upload GHC released packages altogether (even after
 the release) has been a problem in the past. I think we should aim for
 making releases of all the packages GHC ships with before we make the
 actual release. It will make sure 1) that's not forgotten and 2)
 people have more time to fix their packages.

 There's clearly a tension here: GHC might change last minute and break
 one of the just released packages again, forcing another release. If
 we release the packages once we enter feature freeze for GHC, that
 should be a rare occurrence.
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GHC 7.8 Release Status Schedule

2013-10-05 Thread Austin Seipp
Friends,

After talking with Simon yesterday, we have some idea of how the
release will go. As I'm sure you're aware, the release is winding down
rather quickly, and it will be a fantastic one hopefully :)

Now that all the features have landed, we're going into bugfixing
mode. The schedule is, roughly:

 - Nov 1st: Cut branch, and I plan on making a 7.8 RC1 available the
same day, for several platforms.
 - Release will be ~3 weeks out from there, approximately Nov 25th.

This gives us a month of solid bugfixing.

During the 3 weeks with the 7.8 branch open, I'm a bit hesitant to
land massive changes, so that our branches don't diverge too far.
OTOH, a few things can probably land in this timeframe with minimal
disturbances (such as the Applicative-Monad change.) If you want to
land something in that time frame, please just ask me.

On the whole, things actually feel pretty good - although there a few
nasty bugs to sort out, the uptake in community involvement has simply
been fantastic (definitely related to the number bugs we've found,)
and I think we're on track to sort the remaining stuff out. A great
thanks to all of the new people helping out!

And if you want to help even more, please check out the tickets
remaining for 7.8.1:

http://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/query?status=!closedmilestone=7.8.1order=priority

If you think you can take on a bug, please assign it to yourself so we
know what's going on. Note: if the bug isn't *high* or *highest*, it's
unlikely to get looked at, at least by me! It won't be rejected if you
submit a patch, but I'm simply not going to be able to get to it I'm
afraid. So please grab something, and go for it!

I am also reminded that the GHC October Status report will be due
shortly - I'll take some time to write it up, and follow through here
on the list (and glasgow-haskell-users) so interested parties can read
up on what is happening.


-- 
Austin Seipp, Haskell Consultant
Well-Typed LLP, http://www.well-typed.com/
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