Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 schedule
Hi! Can donations (money) to GIMP somehow speed up its development, please? Thank you! Best regards, Nelson ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 schedule
Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Can donations (money) to GIMP somehow speed up its development, please? Currently, money donated to GIMP as a project will not be used to pay people for writing code, but is instead used for doing things like paying flight tickets to e.g. Libre Graphics Meeting. In order to speed up development then, you would have to hire a specific person. BR, Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 schedule
Martin Nordholts wrote: Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Can donations (money) to GIMP somehow speed up its development, please? Currently, money donated to GIMP as a project will not be used to pay people for writing code, but is instead used for doing things like paying flight tickets to e.g. Libre Graphics Meeting. In order to speed up development then, you would have to hire a specific person. In the lilypond list they have this great thing. People that want a particular feature offer to sponser it, and say how much they are willing to pay. Occasionally others then say me too and up the ante. Developers with interest in that area contact them individually. It seems to work great. A number of features have gotten into lilypond in this way. Patrick ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 schedule
On 1/14/10, Patrick Horgan wrote: In order to speed up development then, you would have to hire a specific person. In the lilypond list they have this great thing. People that want a particular feature offer to sponser it, and say how much they are willing to pay. Occasionally others then say me too and up the ante. Developers with interest in that area contact them individually. It seems to work great. A number of features have gotten into lilypond in this way. But it doesn't work for Ardour :), where MIDI tracks are much like GEGL in GIMP. Alexandre ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita
There has recently been much discussion on how long it will take to finish gimp 2.8, and whether donations could speed this up. Krita (KDE's image manipulation program) recently asked its users for €3000 to sponsor one of their old GSOC students to work for 3 months. they raised over €4000 quite quickly. [0] I am sure GIMP could raise a similar amount of money with out to much trouble, and has plenty of old GSOC students to call on. 3 months of work would make a pretty big shift in release time. Might be an interesting experiment. sam [0] http://krita.org/index.phpoption=com_contentid=20 PS: i tried posting through gmane's NNTP system, but it never seemed to get through. is this blocked? ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] PF_FILE of the register functi on in python plugins with 'new file' support (Sco tt)
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 19:05 +0100, Scott wrote: Finding a single source of current documentation on Python scripting in GIMP is darn near impossible. I just fire up my google-fu and burn some bandwidth. Experimentation is also key. Not sure if something works, try it out. The best source of documentation is the source code. The second best source is the Python introspection feature: open the Python console and enter help(gimp). It's also a good idea to look at the sample scripts that come with the GIMP source tree. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita
On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 21:38 +, Sam Tygier wrote: There has recently been much discussion on how long it will take to finish gimp 2.8, and whether donations could speed this up. Krita (KDE's image manipulation program) recently asked its users for €3000 to sponsor one of their old GSOC students to work for 3 months. they raised over €4000 quite quickly. [0] I am sure GIMP could raise a similar amount of money with out to much trouble, and has plenty of old GSOC students to call on. 3 months of work would make a pretty big shift in release time. We wouldn't have to try to raise that money. There's a steady stream of donations coming in and we could easily spend twice that money on a developer if we wanted to do that. But at least so far we have always come to the conclusion that we don't want developers to work on GIMP for money. I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to demotivate others. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita
I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to demotivate others. Don't know why this shouldn't work with the GIMP projekt. This works well for TYPO3 and Blender well too. I would help to organize such a campaign and I would pay for it! Zitat von Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org: On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 21:38 +, Sam Tygier wrote: There has recently been much discussion on how long it will take to finish gimp 2.8, and whether donations could speed this up. Krita (KDE's image manipulation program) recently asked its users for ?3000 to sponsor one of their old GSOC students to work for 3 months. they raised over ?4000 quite quickly. [0] I am sure GIMP could raise a similar amount of money with out to much trouble, and has plenty of old GSOC students to call on. 3 months of work would make a pretty big shift in release time. We wouldn't have to try to raise that money. There's a steady stream of donations coming in and we could easily spend twice that money on a developer if we wanted to do that. But at least so far we have always come to the conclusion that we don't want developers to work on GIMP for money. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita
On 1/15/10, bart wrote: I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to demotivate others. Don't know why this shouldn't work with the GIMP projekt. You can't just extrapolate experience of one project on the other and get away with that. GIMP team has been through this before with GEGL in early 2000s and it really didn't work. Alexandre ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.8 schedule, donations and krita
Sven Neumann wrote: I don't think that donations can speed up GIMP development. On the contrary, paying some developers for their work is more likely going to demotivate others. Since I think this is an important issue and since we are not that many developers, we don't need to guess, we can just ask everyone to give their thoughts on this. Personally I would be _encouraged_ to further contribute to GIMP if GIMP had someone working full time. Having someone working full time on GIMP would mean that the development speed of GIMP would significantly increase, and it will be more fun to contribute to a project that is moving fast than it is to contribute to a project moving slowly, like GIMP is. We often point out to people that GIMP is lacking contributors. Maybe the lack of contributors is a side effect of how the project currently is run with regards to money? Maybe being less restrictive about introducing economic incentives to hack on GIMP could give us more contributors and quicker development? Given that GIMP development is not currently where we'd want it to be, I think these are questions that needs to be considered. / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ Best way to keep up with GIMP from git ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
