[Gimp-developer] Fw: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame]

2004-08-10 Thread Carol Spears
hi, there is an interesting discussion on the gimp-users list.  i
forward this because i am suggesting that the floating layer stuff be
changed or even removed from this new gimp that has layers and such that
work so well now for so long.

- Forwarded message from John Dorfman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

  one thing that i do not understand is the need for floating layers.  i
  dont think that this term is being used properly here.  is there any
  reason that there needs to be the extra step to make pasting directly to
  an existing layer easier?
 
 I don't think so. I believe there is (or was) a bug about that
 too. IMHO, when you paste, you should paste above the active
 layer, into a new layer, and be done with it. People can then
 move the layer  merge down if they really want to, but as you
 say, once people discover layers they rarely anchor to the
 original layer directly.
 

Hi,

I'm new here and probably won't post often, but I think I have an
answer to the origin of the floating layers.  I was recently looking
though the GIMP 1.3 manual.  And if I remember correctly, it said
something like this.  There was a time in GIMP or some software that
inspired GIMP where there were not layers.  Thus for pasting, floating
layers were born to crop and move, I believe, the pasted portion to
the appropriate dimensions before anchoring.  Hope this was what you
were looking for!

-John
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could we rethink this and maybe get rid of the floating layer stuff?  or
at least make it so it is not the default behavior of a paste?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Fw: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame]

2004-08-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hi, there is an interesting discussion on the gimp-users list.  i
 forward this because i am suggesting that the floating layer stuff be
 changed or even removed from this new gimp that has layers and such that
 work so well now for so long.

I don't think this needs any further discussion. I doubt that anyone
would seriously disagree that floating selections should be removed or
at least reduced. The point is that it needs an experienced GIMP
hacker who wants to tackle this task.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Fw: [Gimp-user] So it's a layer border - not a crop frame]

2004-08-10 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On Tuesday 10 August 2004 05:53, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  hi, there is an interesting discussion on the gimp-users list.  i
  forward this because i am suggesting that the floating layer
  stuff be changed or even removed from this new gimp that has
  layers and such that work so well now for so long.

 I don't think this needs any further discussion. I doubt that
 anyone would seriously disagree that floating selections should be
 removed or at least reduced. The point is that it needs an
 experienced GIMP hacker who wants to tackle this task.

Hmmm..Just for me to get a feeling on how it would work them:
Instead of creating a floating selection, as it is now, a new full 
featured layer would come up.

 Maybe the anchor button could be preserved, in order to allow a quick 
merge with another layer of choice (either the previously used layer, 
from which the selection was copied or floated, or the next layer 
selected). I think this way all today's functionality would be 
preserved.

Does the GIMP core treat these floating selections too different of 
actual layers? Or would a hack like placing a call to 
gimp_floating_sel_to_layer placed just after a floating selection get 
created do the job? (I am not suggesting that his should be the 
'fix')

 Sven
 



JS
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